counsel s mandate really is. but the judge accused the special counsel s prosecutors. you heard jessica saying they re interested in manafort because he could potentially provide material that would lead to trump s prosecution or impeachment. again, it s pretty incredible to hear a judge say this. right, an impartial observer, someone who s supposed to be impartial. when you were being interviewed this week by investigators for bob mueller, did you get that m impression? that they were looking for prosecution or impeachment or not? i certainly believed they were looking to jam me up. in that situation. you know, i ve watched a lot of law and order on tv. i ve never been in this situation before. i ve got a great lawyer in dennis, our former new york attorney general. he prepared me really well, but i don t think it s b possible to prepare a new guy who s never done this before for a situation like that. they knew every answer to every question they asked me before they asked me.
this is a witch hunt. can t we understand that? paul, do you think it s a witch hunt or do you put more stake in what the president s close advisers are saying, which is they believe the investigation of michael cohen is a greater and more imminent threat to the president than bob b mueller s investigation. i was agreeing with r cortez until the last statement. i don t think voters cared at all that mr. trump had had a checker ed, colorful private life. why then pay stormy daniels $130,000. no allegation that it was not consentual. miss daniels in her interview. very clear it was consentual. so i think steve s right about that. what he s wrong about if in fact as toobin says, this was designed to affect the election and the timing is really subjective that it was. then you could be in violation of the campaign finance laws. they should have listened to you, steve, but mr. trump should have said, look, okay, i made a mistake in my marriage. it would have been fine, but you
myov mind of sending a clear signal to curb ni, cohen, flynn, that you can go ahead if you are, you get wrapped up in this, you re caught lying to the fbi, committing a crime and national security, it s okay. i ll take care of you. because we know trump u values loyalty above all else. now, sarah sanders was asked basically what you re saying today, if there was a reason for the pardon. whether it was for trump to send a signal to bob mueller or as you re pointing out, who might be charged with him or might cooperate with him. here s the exchange. was the president sending some sort of signal to the mueller investigation or about the mueller investigation by pardoning scooter libby? not at all. one thing has nothing to do with
tim neftali. will we look back at this as a turning point in the trump presidency? well, we ll look at this certainly as a turning point, but i think we ll also look at this as increasing income mall distribution of the united states. we re up to a point we haven t been since 1929. when over 20%, when 0.1% of all households controlled, owned 22% of the country s income. we haven t been this at this point since 1929 and this is going to make it worse. so i think that some of the consequences of this law were not going to see for a while, but whether he see that as a turning point and not in a good direction. tim, thanks to you. april, david, as always. appreciate it. and we ll see you again soon. outfront next, a top democrat puts the president on notice, telling trump he better not fire bob b mueller. in the united states of america, no one, no one is above
of pushing for impeachment in the house of representatives. i think that if the president engineered a series of moves to remove mr. mueller and destroy the special counsel investigation that you would see a stampede towards impeachment and so the political crisis. you re saying if the president fired bob b mueller, you would push for impeachment and many of your colleagues would? i think it would be a clearly impeachable offense because it would constitute obstruction of justice. the same kind of obstruction of justice when he fired fbi director comey after comey refused to drop the investigation into national security adviser flynn and refused to essentially take a personal loyalty oath to president trump. so you know, the evidence of obstruction of justice, deliberate interference with with this investigation is mounting and that would clearly be the straw that breaks the camel s back. i imagine you have a lot of