and he says, well, i just got into the nevada state athletic commission. he says, let s get together, i d like to train. i said, awesome. so that monday, him and his brother frank show up and, uh, they started training with me and we ve literally been together ever since. my understanding is, it went from boxing to mma because of a limp bizkit concert. yeah, so frank and i were at the hard rock. limp bizkit was playing that night, and i saw this guy jon lewis. and jon lewis was the first guy to have a brazilian jiu-jitsu school in town here - and he was a ufc fighter. - harvey: right. so frank says, yeah, that s that ufc guy. he goes, i ve always wanted to learn ground fighting. and i was like, me too. so, we set up an appointment, told lorenzo, lorenzo came too on monday, the rest is history. we started training, we fell in love with it, we met bj penn, we met chuck liddell, tito ortiz, you know, all these guys, that were stars in the ufc at the time, and we were blown awa