night and told me that kathy was no longer with us. what was that like for you? it hurts. still hurts. so many years later, charles carlisle still smarts from the loss of his big sister kathy, just never got over it. but then, kathy was also his menture, his protector, perhaps his only true friend. they grew up in california, charles painfully shy. kathy, outgoing, strikingly attractive and popular. kellyanne and kathy were school chums. they remember what a knockout she was, but that there was more to her than just that. she could have her choice of
kathy and i would always joke and say, do you think you re going to marry a pilot? wouldn t that be so cool? it s like top gun, marry a pilot. and of course she married one. it wasn t a direct route. first in her early 20s she struck up a seriously relationship with a pilot who, in the end, just couldn t seem to commit. and so, just like rachel, years later in napa, california, kathy was a young woman on the rebound when she met fighter pilot todd. where the first one didn t work out or perhaps it didn t work to the way you wanted it to, maybe she felt like this is what she needed to do. and todd came into the picture. i think having that pilot probably maybe is what caused her to marry todd. patterns. at that time too todd was ready to commit, right away. how long did they date before they got married? i wasnouldn t say it wasn t very long time at all. they got married within weeks of dating. she appeared to be happy, i didn t question that.
and pretty soon kathy and todd moved into a big lakeside house in georgia with a boat and fancy cars and, of course, an airplane. kathy, always so nurturing, told her friends she was ready to take the next step. i remember kathy calling me and telling me that they were living in georgia and she was excited about it and she wanted to have children. i was excited for her because i can see her with little kids. but, nine years into what looked like a happy marriage, children had yet to arrive. and now we know because of what was in that blue box they never would. time to find out what happened. who knew that the discovery in that box would bring investigators all the way across the country to the blue ridge mountains of north georgia to a campsite high on a hill. here was a lonely place that had kept its secret long enough. coming up. i was sleeping in my tent and i heard somebody shouting
no, sir. actually i thought about that case many times. the case, an auto accident in the fall of 1999. an accident that killed the first mrs. winkler, kathy. my father called me that night and told me that kathy was no longer with us. what was that like for you? it hurts. still hurts. so many years later, charles carlisle still smarts from the loss of his big sister kathy, just never got over it. but then, kathy was also his menture, his protector, perhaps his only true friend. they grew up in california, charles painfully shy. kathy, outgoing, strikingly attractive and popular. kellyanne and kathy were school chums. they remember what a knockout
very hot. kathy would always joke and say, do you think you re going to marry a pilot? wouldn t that be so cool? it s like top gun, marry a pilot. and of course she married one. it wasn t a direct route. first in her early 20s she struck up a seriously relationship with a pilot who, in the end, just couldn t seem to commit. and so just like rachel, years later in napa, california, kathy was a young woman on the rebound when she met fighter pilot todd. where the first one didn t work out or perhaps it didn t work to the way you wanted it to, maybe she felt like this is what she needed to do. and todd came into the picture. i think having that pilot probably maybe is what caused her to marry todd. patterns. at that time too todd was ready to commit, right away. how long did they date before they got married? i wasnouldn t say it was a v