republican strategist joseph pinion. thank you for being here. good morning. rashad, we are looking at a 3% race at this point. i mean, how much of an indicator is is this poll? the poll is a great indicator but you are looking at a three-person race, possibly a four-person race when it starts to actually roll into votes. the numbers don t tell the full story. while joe biden is at 29%, look at the background of the numbers, 45% of democratic responders are saying they re voting for joe and they support joe because he is the most electable. when it comes to bernie sanders only 14% of democrats say they re supporting him. right. and believe he is the most electable and only 12% think elizabeth warren is the most ele electable against president trump. i wonder, joeself, based off of those numbers that rashad was talking about here, no other candidates saw a significant increase, so how do you rate t how do you take this as a republican? look, i still maintain that the great
riser elizabeth warren. we have the numbers here. what are you hearing from your fellow republicans? is she the biggest worry right now for trump administration? look, i honestly think that democrats would be making a huge mistake if they think that somehow they re going to be able to build a winning coalition behind elizabeth warren. i think what people are not talking about is the fact that you have people who are firmly never trumpers, people who termly do not necessarily think that donald trump is the best person to vote for the second time around who will be first in line at the polls to vote for a second term for president trump if the choice is between donald trump and socialism. i think that in many ways to go with somebody like elizabeth warren is basically doing the work that president trump is struggling to do himself which is to rebuild that fractured coalition that is starting to suffer from a little bit of trump fatigue. rashad, i also want to talk about that exact po
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biden. i think that s someone who puts pennsylvania back in play, who puts the states that republicans were able to flip, you are talking about wisconsin, you are talking about michigan, you are talking about obviously florida. so you re talking about all these places where i think joe biden is strong. i think also, i mean, realistically you had this last past week with people from the biden campaign off the record leaking that he might not have to win new hampshire or iowa, which to me is ludicrous because i think as we saw in 2008 with hillary clinton that, yes, he might have an overwhelming majority of african-american support in the first majority african-american primary in south carolina but i do believe if he doesn t find a way to get across the finish line first in iowa, similar to hillary clinton in 2008, you will see black voters starting to think that that veil of front runner status starts to go away. so they will think twice, look to iowa. iowa always or sometimes an i
so while we are talking about the three or four gaffes of joe biden and saying that he s in mental decline because of them, i would prefer a guy who makes gaffes than a guy who lies more than i wash my hands per day. i want to ask one last question about the economy to you, joe. you are a small businessperson, you know this well. the economy right now showing a few cracks around the edges, still strong numbers overall. how important is the economy for trump quickly? i mean, the economy is the perch upon which donald trump s reelection hopes are perched upon. you are talking about 6 million americans that have jobs today that didn t have jobs when donald trump got elected. i think, again, democrats need to stop trying to pretend that those jobs are imaginary, that the money in people s 401(k)s are imaginary. they need to come up with a strong compelling argument, but if the economy starts to slide i think it will take donald trump with it. joseph and rashad, thank you both for bei