folks are. and to alicea s point, it s, yes, stand up against trump, but get your message out and inform people about who you are. educate them about your vision for the nation. you can t proceed in this race without doing that. because they need to know who you are. it s not a vision race. it s a beat trump race. i think it s both. i think it s both. and i m sure you re right. i think republicans have ptsd. because in a field of 17, there were people that had ideas and they were all demolished by trump who smeared him. so i hope but he s not in this primary. you know my position. i ll vote for y all s bus. alicea, what do you make of sort of where this democratic primary is at this moment? wow, that s a big question. i think it s still early. i think is the truth. and i think a lot of those polls have to do with name recognition. i think a lot of those a lot of the fund-raising numbers have to do with really boring and unsexy things like the infrastructure of a campaig