something that is utterly ridiculous and absurd to attempt to change the narrative, attempt to change our focus from stormy daniels to whatever it is he seems fit so we re not talking about the alleged affair by this woman or alleged payout by his person or attorney. you were probably listening to the discussion with barbara mcquade. what is your reflection on the statement she was making about why the legal team is in flux, since we re talking about the two cabinet secretaries which seems also to be in question here? well, i think the legal team is in flux because of their client, right? i mean, donald trump is unpredictable. i think dowd left because he realized that trump was not going to listen to him. that the decision to attack mueller explicitly went against his counsel. i think the debacle around the two lawyers who were supposed to join his team reflects in some ways the chaos.
to put in that, i suppose he s drawing inferences based on the questions he was asked in the interview that he participated in last week. i know in that interview, from last week, he talked about how impressed he was with their preparation, their professionalism, their charts, the evidence that they asked him about. but i don t know that we can draw a lot of conclusions based on that small snippet of the investigation that he got a chance to observe. how about when you marry it, barbara, with the reporting out just this afternoon in the washington post that bob mueller is now interested in h talking to the president s lawyer, michael cohen, who crossed over into all of trump s lands, his campaign life, his business life, his personal life? would the intersection of nunberg s impressions from being interviewed by mueller s investigators and the washington post report this afternoon that now the president s attorney for all of his businesses including what nunberg talked about in a
in the aftermath. all of this leaving nunberg humiliated enough to feel more royal to roger stone than donald trump. bob mueller made nunberg a story by wanting to talk to him and business insider writes, nunberg has always been seen as a trump whisperer, he was hope hicks before hope hicks was hope hicks. comes from a long line of tricksters who sees politics as a gain. he s a protege of roger stone, a pro protege of roy cohn and protege of roger stone. the ones he wishes were by his side. msnbc contributor barbara mcquaide, former u.s. attorney, joins our merry gang. let me start with you about the revelation, i suppose, that at least in sam nunberg s mind, bob mueller already thinks donald trump may be guilty of something. i don t know how much stack
the summer. right. sessions remains a popular figure. republicans on the hill stepped up and said we will not hold hearings for a replacement, this is a line, mr. president, you should not cross. whether that s fear of a constitutional crisis, firing sessions could lead to rosenstein, bob mueller or simply out of loyalty to jeff sessions who they ve known? the senate for decades and delivering on conservative promises in the doj? that we re not sure. sessions is a spot where the republicans in congress have pushed back a little bit against the president. the trump times make for strange alliances. even had very progressive democrats yes, also jeff sessions. spitting coffee out when i heard elizabeth warren on our air defending jeff sessions. barbara, thank you for elevating us for a while. when we come back, a sentence that hasn t been said in a long, long time. north korea may be ready and willing to hold talks with the u.s. which prompts an interesting question, is dona
stoneman/manafort. that part, mueller seems like he s getting close on that. i think that that is the heart of the matter. i mean, you know, one of the hearts of the matter, at least. i wonder if trump is not very worried about that. that s where i remain very worried about the firing of sessions and trying to get rid of mueller and stuff. i don t think that s something that s months away necessarily. what did you think of the answer in the press conference we watched together about sessions? he seems to be channeling something is imminent. are you worried that s what it is 12 is? yeah. then what? i don t know. republicans on the hill can do certain things ahead of time to prevent it or at least to make clear a huge price would be paid or at least how about a sense of congress that he should let the independent investigation go forward uninterfered with. is that a hard thing to pass on a bipartisan basis? i guess it is, but it would be kind of useful to have something like