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Transcripts for MSNBC Alex Witt Reports 20240604 17:42:00

holding onto it after leaving office. okay, it would be that venue issue i was talking about with about that, in new jersey, that could be a venue issues. that said, with you, mark, how significant are the national security implications around this? whether it is a foreign source or an ally that trust us to protect their information, what kind of ripple effect that s violating classified information have? well, it certainly has a tremendous effect. let s actually go over exactly what this is. this was the u.s. military war plan for some kind of document, presumably four pages are selected by the joint key of chaff and how we would hear iran. that is not compromised. i think that s the question we should all ask, is has the u.s. military had to change? this and in essence, former president trump put the men and women and the u.s. department of defense at risk in treating the so cavalierly the alexei, bring us another good points, that in, terms of our sources. these are human agen

Transcripts for MSNBC Alex Witt Reports 20240604 17:12:00

just remember, this document was actually returned to the federal archives. this is one that they actually received, i believe, in january. so, ultimately, you know, i think this is going to be, in many ways, a bigger part of their case, in terms of how strong this is, and a lot of the evidence that we talked about is very colorful. at the end of the, day s.a.t. mentioned, this goes through the state of mind. now if the document, the jury could see the attack plans against iran. they could see with their own eyes, and see how they re referring to it, i don t think there s any way of getting around that with donald trump. evidence is one thing. but charges is another, ronaldo. the evidence is that trump showed classified information on other occasions. why do you think he still has not been charged with that offense? well, i do think that there is a venue issue there. that would potentially be showing documents at bedminster, that s in new jersey. so, ultimately, that s crime would

Transcripts for MSNBC Morning Joe 20240604 11:07:00

was newspapers. i had plans for a new golf course. meanwhile, he was talking about how they were classified. it is clear from this new indictment that the government knows what that document is. you had raised the possibility to us a few weeks ago, andrew, of a separate case coming out of new jersey because of this conversation and these documents were allegedly flashed in bedminster, which is in the state of new jersey. now, it looks like this has been folded into the florida case. is that what happened here? yeah, absolutely. it seems pretty clear there was a venue issue that seemed to hang up the government because this is a tape recording of something that happened in bedminster. if you look at the new charges that were unveiled yesterday, clearly, the government has been able to see that this document made its way, not just to bedminster, but back to mar-a-lago, so that gives them venue. the constitution requires that you bring charges where the

Transcripts for MSNBC Katy Tur Reports 20240604 19:16:00

with high profile complicated cases, but what do you make of the strategy here? i think you re right. ideally, it s one case in one place at one time. that s easier for the government and its witnesses. there was probably a venue issue with respect to the classified documents portion of the case that i think necessitated bringing it in the southern district of florida, and that s okay. the government has the resources to try two cases in two places. it probably would not have been his preference. what do you make of the start day, may 20th, 2024. pushing into the primary season. that s the summer before the republican national convention. who knows who the potential nominee at that point will be. does this now superseding indictment likely push that date back considering there is more discovery to be done by the former president s attorneys,

Transcripts for MSNBC Deadline White House 20240604 20:32:00

community, that s what you re worried about. the activity took place in bedminster, so where s this case brought? in florida. there s a venue issue. there s an argument but it s not like a lock to bring it in florida. and so what ryan and i wrote about was is that a sort of off-ramp where jack smith knowing that he s going to bring this case in florida, knowing that there was a substantial likelihood given the denominator that he would have been able to do this as because you can still charge it not as an alternative but in an addition. so i think it s worth people seeing do we see activity related to this in a new jersey grand jury because that is a potential additional way of charging the president if jack smith thinks that the case they brought is being slow walked. glenn, one of the he says

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