reporter: giuliani is using those other tapes to push back on the allegation or in various reports the allegation that cohen is perhaps going to tell special counsel mueller that president trump knew about the 2016 meeting in trump tower with officials. trump has denied. giuliani said if that were the case, something would be in the case. in his view, cohen seems to have recorded everything, jon? jon: michael cohen is an attorney, he also has an attorney. what s that attorney saying about all this? reporter: he says that giuliani is confused. in a statement, lanny davis, cohen s attorney focused on reports giuliani warned cohen to stop talking and cohen is violating attorney-client privileges. davis said mr. giuliani seems to be confused, waived attorney-client privilege last week and repeatedly and
welcome all. first of all, harry, take us through the significance of this federal court hearing and what she decided regarding michael cohen forcing michael cohen to reveal his third client. he says he s an attorney. he said they were issues of attorney-client privileges and then he revealed his third client was sean hannity. right. it was very dramatic. the cohen in general it was a very broad harvest that the search warrant gathered and there was the suspicion there was a lot of attorney-client material. the united states said there s not much and said he doesn t seem to be acting like an attorney. turns out there were three clients he s had.
what the rights of trump and cohen are in this particular case. interesting. so the legal representation might also be challenged in terms of to the extent michael cohen is the attorney for the president? right. there are certain attorney-client privileges. one of the main principles is you have to be the attorney for the person asserting it. so if michael cohen was not acting as president trump s attorney in these situations, then they can t assert attorney-client privilege. and even beyond that, just the assertion of attorney-client privilege is not a hand over documents free card. so this is information from a raid conducted by the fbi. there was approval of this raid from the department of justice. but now the department of justice can also play a role
this president is not above the law but he is not below the law and anybody who has a client that is an attorney, every client should be concerned about the precedent we are setting where these type of attorney-client privileges can be discovered with a warrant issued. harris: i imagine by the end of the day that people will be quoting you. this president isn t above the law but he s not below the law. what can you do to block this? can you? i am glad you asked that. called into question as part of this investigation, taken by warrant with this seizure, the present i believe has standing to file motions to intervene, as the client. the holder of the privilege and the attorney-client privilege is the client. the president could very well
using them for the investigation, that that potentially violated attorney-client privileges and the unreasonable search and seizure protections provided by the 4th amendment. that s the allegation. we have talked about how mueller s team refuted that allegation. there is at least one government official who says members of the trump transition team should have known just by virtue of the fact they were using e-mail accounts that ended in .gov that their e-mails were property of the federal government. this is the issue. there are people who are independent observers of this who say this is an attempt by trump allies to discredit the mueller investigation just as it is ramping up. just as it is getting closer and closer perhaps to the president himself although we should say we don t have reporting to suggest that the mueller investigation is targeting the president himself. right. but as sort of the apex of this investigation. this is an attempt to discredit it. cynthia you heard