after he learned that his attorney general bill barr said in the interview that the department of justice had not found evidence of widespread fraud in that year s election. watch this again. on december one, 2020, attorney barr said in an interview that the department of justice had not found evidence of widespread election fraud. sufficient to change the outcome of the election. miss hutchinson, how did the president react to hearing that news? around the time that i understand the article went live, i remember hearing a noise coming from down the hallway so i post my head out of the office and i saw the valet walking towards our office. he had said get the chief down to the dining room, the president wants him. mark went down to the dining room, came back to the office a few minutes later, after mark had returned, i left the office and went down to the dining room, and i notice that the
bombshell testimony made headlines and created a rare public rift between her and her father. between politico, checked out, trump rebukes ivanka and from the new york times, trump hits back at his daughter s account. trump s irritation is all about this. this is the president s daughter commenting on bill barr s statement that the department found no fraud sufficient to overturn the election. how did that affect your perception when attorney barr made that statement? it affected my perception. i respect attorney barr. so, i accepted what he was saying. now, i have to say, gabby, that jared s deposition was certainly one of the more interesting parts of it as well. we ll get a little more of that. but trump is responding. what is going on behind the scenes in his head when it
closed, they should feel free to come out and talk about them and answer some of those questions right now. you talked about this needing, you know, high level approval given now what we know. former attorney barr, former attorney generally should say bill barr, he said he didn t recall being briefed on these things. if that was indeed the case, to initially focus on a congressional staffer not lawmakers would it be possible barr wasn t aware? would it go that high? absolutely it would go that high. i can tell you this again based on my own experience handling leak cases understanding very sensitive leak cases like ones that might stray into the congressional area, these are things that are discussed at the attorney general and the fbi director level. they are definitely briefed repeatedly to the deputy director of the fbi who at this time would have been david boudich and deputy attorney general rod rosenstein so the idea none of these people remember hearing anything about these
things. if that was indeed the case, to initially focus on a congressional staffer, not lawmakers, would it be possible barr wasn t aware? would it go that high? absolutely it would go that high. i can tell you this again based on my own experience handling leak cases, understanding very sensitive leak cases like ones that might stray into the congressional area, these are things that are discussed at the attorney general and the fbi director level. they are definitely briefed repeatedly to the deputy director of the fbi who at this time would have been david boudich and deputy attorney general rod rosenstein. so the idea that none of these people remember hearing anything about these cases is really very, very suspicious to me. it is unlikely that legal process in cases of this level of sensitivity would have had some very high level discussions and approval. and of course if that took place the attorney general doesn t get information about a case by himself. it comes up in updates
it takes place in meetings in which staff are present. i think all of those folks on the very large attorney general and director staff, deputy director staff, should be brought in and asked, were you ever present when these cases were discussed? if so, what did you hear? those people should have access to their notes and notebooks that they no doubt took and memorialized some of the details of the meetings in. yeah. there is a trail. it is only through that process that we ll get real answers. andrew mccabe, appreciate it. thanks. thanks, anderson. next, is it time for college athletes to get paid to pay for the universities which reap billions from their performances on the field? the supreme court laid the groundwork today for exactly that. we will have details when we come back. tonight, i ll be eating a pork banh mi with extra jalapeños. [doorbell rings] thanks, baby. yeah, we bout to get spicy for this virtual date. spicy like them pajama pants? well, the top half of