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greece. and i don t think that s a good place to go. you know, i think everybody s mine, yours, everybody s share of this is some $50,000. chuck? should we raise the debt ceiling or just cut spending? this just in people in washington, d.c., are talking about giving stuff away and giving people money because they can be re-elected. absolutely. with this particular debt ceiling and this case, this is our own debt we ve already incurred. we don t want to default on our loans. i sound like gary b. but you have to do something to cut between now and then because you can t go back and not pay a bill you ve already made. chuck, aren t you always going to make that argument, though, that oh, i hear that so many times. we have to raise the debt ceiling because it s already for debts we incurred. the politicians are just going to step back and keep on keeping on, but you have to pay the debt now. get politicians with a backbone who will do something. like that s going to happen.

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