gets $50 million, and bookie gets paid. that theory s not going to go anywhere. a tough case for the defense, unfortunately, that s what you get. heather: it sounds like you throw in a bunch of money, he s reportedly worth about $50 million, and somebody wants custody of their daughter, and it just sounds like this whole case is ugly. it s got to be hard for the jury to look at that, but we re going to have to leave it there. i just feel bad for this 9-year-old, the daughter whose custody is at issue. heather: it is an ugly case. fred, ashley, thanks for sticking around to talk about this topic. jon: brand new stories we re working in the next hour of happening now, police in florida searching for a suspect who might have sparked this tragedy. and new york city s mayor expected to roll out new legislation that will ban the city s iconic horse-drawn carriages. the reason behind this
is doing is attacking all of this, and at the end of the day, he can t t away attention for the two taped phone calls made by this woman setting this whole thing up. heather: ashley, i wonder if they re trying to use this as sort of a mitigating factor in the case. what do you think of that? oh, definitely. they re trying to divert any attention they can from these audio recordings. there s nothing worse than when your client commits a crime on tape. and they ve got an audio recording of her hiring this hitman and trying to make these arrangements. they ve got to do everything in their power to try and deflect from that and focus on something else and make the victim out to be the bad guy. and also they re trying to come up with an alternative theory that maybe a bookie was trying to kill him, maybe somebody else in his life was trying to kill him hoping to deflect from the truth and what really happened in this case. i guess, fred, this is what you would call reasonable doubt. n
robberies had taken place not long before. marcus karma is the homeowner, and he claims he was acting in self-defense when he shot the student. now a jury is hearing that case. but in a stunning twist, listen to this testimony: he had said he s really tired and that he d been sitting up for three days waiting to shoot some f-ing kids. that testimony coming from a hairdresser who had apparently seen him just a day or two before he shot that young man. fred tecce is a former federal prosecutor, ashley merchant is a defense attorney. fred, boy, this case had been looking like it was in the homeowner s favor because montana has really strong stand your ground laws, but does this now point to premeditation? boggles my mind what people tell their hair dresser, that s why i have the same guy cutting my hair for 20 years. i actually think it wasn t a tough case for the state.
this guy pulled his shotguns out of his garage, he s waiting, there s nothing in your garage worth shooting a kid over, i m sorry. i think the guy s going to get convicted. heather: ashley, what about that? jon and i were talking about it yesterday, jon s from the west, i ve got family in the west, there s a real strong sense of, you know, this is my property, you don t just enter someone s property. i think without this hairdresser s testimony with a montana jury, i think the state would have had a very hard time getting a conviction because montana jurors tend to like stand your ground and the right to to bear arms and the right to protect your property from burglars like these kids. they were actually there to commit a crime. but with this hairdresser s testimony, it really, really turned what his intent was, whether or not he was really protecting his home or whether or not he actually was setting out to kill these kids. health. heather: and, fred? i believe in firearms, i beli
steps of your house, you shoot them. you don t leave your garage open and clean your shotgun waiting for people to come steal your personal possessions. he stepped over the line. heather: some of the neighbors said it was unusual for him to keep his garage door open, he did keep it open that night leading some to believe he did plan this all around. fred and ashley, i d like you to stick around for another story we are following in connecticut. we ll be right back to talk about that on the other side. ty? don t put off checking out your medicare options until 65. now is a good time to get the ball rolling. medicare only covers about 80% of part b medical costs. the rest is up to you. that s where aarp medicare supplement insurance plans, insured by unitedhealthcare insurance company, come in. like all standardized medicare supplement insurance plans, they could help save you in out-of-pocket medical costs. taking informed steps really makes a difference later. that s what it means to g