that is part of their self-definition, it now feels in the culture, generally, i think like this is the big leagues because what used to be the big- in audience terms at an radio and everybody in itñrçó sometimes they succeedñtrçor sometimes they fail, but theyçó( are all trying to make stuffñiñó that they think is great and they think their audience will think is great without any other imperatives getting in the way. a lot of listeners to the american life have told me like, there s a wave of shows that when they heard them for the first time they didn t realize radio could do the things that we do. you know, like, i m told often like, by people the first time they heard this american life, like, they didn t think a radio story could be good, could have characters and emotion and you stick around because you want to find out you get caught up in it you know that you would get caught up in it because you wanted to know what was going to happen and could del
that is part of their self-definition, it now feels in the culture, generally, i think like this is the big leagues because what used to be the big- in audience terms at an radio and everybody in itñrçó sometimes they succeedñtrçor sometimes they fail, but theyçó( are all trying to make stuffñiñó that they think is great and they think their audience will think is great without any other imperatives getting in the way. a lot of listeners to the american life have told me like, there s a wave of shows that when they heard them for the first time they didn t realize radio could do the things that we do. you know, like, i m told often like, by people the first time they heard this american life, like, they didn t think a radio story could be good, could have characters and emotion and you stick around because you want to find out you get caught up in it you know that you would get caught up in it because you wanted to know what was going to happen and could del
self-definition, it now feels in the culture, generally, i think like this is the big leagues because what used to be the big- in audience terms at an radio and everybody in itñrçó sometimes they succeedñtrçor sometimes they fail, but theyçó( are all trying to make stuffñiñó that they think is great and they think their audience will think is great without any other imperatives getting in the way. a lot of listeners to the american life have told me like, there s a wave of shows that when they heard them for the first time they didn t realize radio could do the things that we do. you know, like, i m told often like, by people the first time they heard this american life, like, they didn t think a radio story could be good, could have characters and emotion and you stick around because you want to find out you get caught up in it you know that you would get caught up in it because you wanted to know what was going to happen and could deliver all the feelings
life or radiolab or whatever, that is part of their self-definition, it now feels in the culture, generally, i think, like this is the big leagues, because what used to be the big leagues have shrunken a lot. so now we re kind of on not only in audience terms at an equivalent place, but public radio and everybody in it, sometimes they succeed, sometimes they fail, but they are all trying to make stuff that they think is great and they think their audience will think is great without any other imperatives getting in the way. a lot of listeners to the american life have told me, like, there s a wave of shows that when they heard them for the first time they didn t realize radio could do the things that we do. you know, like, i m told often, like, by people the first time they heard this american life, like, they didn t think a radio story could be good, could have characters and emotion and you stick around because you want to find out you get caught up in it you know,
life or radiolab or whatever, that is part of their self-definition, it now feels in the culture, generally, i think, like this is the big leagues, because what used to be the big leagues have shrunken a lot. so now we re kind of on not only in audience terms at an equivalent place, but public radio and everybody in it, sometimes they succeed, sometimes they fail, but they are all trying to make stuff that they think is great and they think their audience will think is great without any other imperatives getting in the way. a lot of listeners to the american life have told me, like, there s a wave of shows that when they heard them for the first time they didn t realize radio could do the things that we do. you know, like, i m told often, like, by people the first time they heard this american life, like, they didn t think a radio story could be good, could have characters and emotion and you stick around because you want to find out you get caught up in it you know,