but on this one particular leader from this one country, he has held fast. now why is that? obviously, we don t know. but this is a consistent theme that we have seen. it continues to repeat itself. if you remember, it was back in may of 2017 right around the time that he fired comey that he told the russian officials that by firing comey he had relieved pressure on him. so he feels certainly comfortable confiding in them intimate details about where he stands politically on a very difficult thing like firing comey. our thanks to mimi rocha and michael schmitt with the new york times.
leader from this one country, he has held fast. now why is that? obviously, we don t know. but this is a consistent theme that we have seen. it continues to repeat itself. if you remember, it was back in may of 2017 right around the time that he fired comey that he told the russian officials that by firing comey he had relieved pressure on him. so he feels certainly comfortable confiding in them intimate details about where he stands politically on a very difficult thing like firing comey. our thanks to mimi rocha and michael schmitt with the new york times. really appreciate it tonight. coming up after another break, north korea accuses the u.s. of gangster like behavior over denuclearization. but the president points out there was a hand shake. he also says they signed a contract where the talks go from here when we come right back.
has held fast. now why is that? obviously, we don t know. but this is a consistent theme that we have seen. it continues to repeat itself. if you remember, it was back in may of 2017 right around the time that he fired comey that he told the russian officials that by firing comey he had relieved pressure on him. so he feels certainly comfortable confiding in them intimate details about where he stands politically on a very difficult thing like firing comey. our thanks to mimi rocha and michael schmitt with the new york times. really appreciate it tonight. coming up after another break, north korea accuses the u.s. of gangster like behavior over denuclearization. but the president points out there was a hand shake. he also says they signed a contract where the talks go from here when we come right back. (vo) this is not a video game. this is not a screensaver. this is the destruction of a cancer cell by the body s
katy. you can t confirm he is still an informant. i m sure we ll find out more about it. michael, one last question for you. any other contacts with russians? any other meetings that you re now remembering? not that i recall. michael caputo, thanks so much for being here. back with me is julia ainsley, national security and justice reporter for nbc news. matt miller, msnbc justice and security analyst. mimi rocha, former u.s. attorney for the southern district of new york. julia, what struck you about michael caputo s story? first of all, great interview, katy. that really got to a lot of the questions that i ve been asking my sources about this same meeting. i think what i ve been hearing throughout the day and really is something that michael caputo was not able to answer to is whether or not this man was still an fbi informant. it seems that there s no evidence and the post presents this as well, that there is no
intermediary or russian sint ci who s peddling information about our campaign. that s not what you heard. you hear them peddle conspiracy theories. you heard them defend the meeting saying it is their due diligence to talk to anybody who s offering any sort of information on the political opponent. there is a distinction that should be made while the don junio me junior meeting was offered as coming from the russian government. there is no indication right now that this man, although he had a russian accent and was a person of russian descent or russian citizen, this person was coming directly from the russian government in the way the don junior meeting seems to have transpired. mimi, how significant is this likely to be? michael caputo says he was questioned about this quite a bit by mueller s team, that it got heated at times. how big of a piece of the puzzle could this be? i think it could be very big. first of all, we have caputo saying nothing came of this, it