missions they were forced to make under oath. i was in the oval office, and at some point in the conversation matt osk. on wski, the lead data person, was brought on. he delivered to the president in operate blunt terms that he was going to lose. reporter: trump campaign attorneys followed up on all of the fraud claims, and they quickly concluded that fraud did not take the election from donald trump, voters did. the news was told to trump s chief of staff at the white house, mark meadows, in mid to late november. i remember a call with mr. meadows. i remember sharing with him that we weren t finding anything that would be sufficient to change the results in any of the key states. reporter: during a meeting several weeks later, the president got the same message from his white house counsel, pat cipollone, and another white house lawyer, eric herschmann. eric and pat told the group,
your effing mind? now i am going to give you the best free legal advice you ever getting in your life:get a grea effing criminal defense lawyer, you are going to need it. and i hung up on him. and the president released a second video, condemning the violence more forcefully, on january 7th. like all americans, i outraged by the violence, lawlessness, and mayhem. but according to white house aide cassie hutchinson going it was only the threat of his cabinet invoking the 25th amendment that convinced him to make this video. advisors warned trump that talk of removing him from office was gaining traction. think about what might happe in the final 15 years of your presidency if we don t do this. there is already talk of the 25th amendment being involved. you need bases covered. and even then he refused to admit the election was over.
sydney powell, and patrick byrne, the founder of overstock.com, were let into the white house by an aide to peter navarro, another trump adviser. trump saw them, called them into the oval office, and they start arguing the case where everyone else is failing trump and that trump can take aggressive actions to keep himself in power and to try to impact the results of an election that he had already lost. they suggested that he use the apparatus of government to seize voting machines. and as this meeting is taking place, another lawyer in the white house, eric herschmann, figures out what s happening, calls in the white house counsel, pat cipollone. mark meadows ends up joining at some point. rudy giuliani gets called in. this goes on for hours. how much time did you have alone with the president? i say alone. you had other people with you. but before the crowds came running? oh, probably no more than 10 or 15 minutes.
instantaneously, and bless another message to the american people. he had every opportunity and he chose not to do that. when the president finally relented and released a video telling the rioters to go home, it was 4:17 p.m. from three hours and seven minutes since the riot began. it became very clear that th fence basically had taken the capitol back over, that they were not going to succeed in stopping accounting. and only then did he come out with that statement. we had an election that was stolen from us. it was a landslide election, an everyone knows it. seeing him on camera sent th video talking about a stone election, i just immediately knew that he wasn t going to meet the moment and say what wa needed and that time. so go home. we love you. your very special. yet again many rioters in th president s words as instructions.
typical is one or two. if it was a controversial bill, you might send it to three. if it goes to four committees, then you re getting a message. judiciary. i assigned it to 12 committees. transportation. it was theatrical, and i admit it. reporter: it s no overstatement to say that because bowers stood up for democracy, he will no longer be in the state legislature. i m rusty bowers. reporter: term limited in the statehouse, he ran in the republican primary for a state senate seat. i ve stood up to the radicals and kept my conservative campaign promises. my opponent was david farnsworth. david farnsworth is going to do the job. reporter: their positions on the major issues nearly identical, except for one. i believe the election was stolen. reporter: farnsworth bought into trump s election lies. bowers did not. arizona voters have picked david farnsworth over statehouse speaker i lost big. it is very possible that the