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Transcripts for BBCNEWS Newsnight 20240604 21:48:00

That the regime can be swept aside without a lot of bloodshed or civil war. mr khodorkovsky, thank you very much for talking to newsnight. thank you. thank you, thank you. bye bye. what now for the brutal mercenaries, the wagner group, which is a money making outfit still operating in syria and parts of africa? and what now for its leader, former hotdog seller yevgeny prigozhin? today, he said in an ii minute audio message on telegram that he hadn t wanted to overthrow president putin. here s our international editor, nawal al maghafi. in the ten years since its founding, the wagner group has evolved from a small guns for hire operation into a sprawling network that has been proven to be active in at least four continents. once one of the most secretive organisations in russia, it s emerged from the shadows and into the spotlight as an incredibly powerful force in ukraine. so powerful, some would say,

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Transcripts for BBCNEWS Newsnight 20240604 21:46:00

And there would have been protests in moscow and possibly an armed uprising. and the fact that putin abandoned the kremlin at that point may have meant that he wouldn t have returned. i mean, what you seem to be suggesting is some kind of. potentially, some kind of civil war, which would lead, potentially, to massive bloodshed, lead to even more instability in the country and around russia s borders. and even more fears about russia s nuclear weapons. translation: today, russia is waging war l with a neighbouring state, with ukraine, but also with russia itself. it is already a kind of civil war. the issue at stake is, should we let this war spread orjust do away with the regime? this is a risk. but having putin as president for the next five or ten years is a greater risk and will mean the collapse of the regime, the threat

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Transcripts for BBCNEWS Newsnight 20240604 22:09:30

Transcripts for BBCNEWS Newsnight 20240604 22:09:30
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Transcripts for BBCNEWS Newsnight 20240604 22:06:00

Money, the regime has looked to the lucrative captagon trade. the fourth division is an elite army unit tasked with protecting the government from internal and external threats. since 2018, government from internal and externalthreats. since 2018, it s been let by this man, the younger brother of president bashar al assad. during the syrian civil war, he was responsible for brutal crackdowns on demonstrators and the alleged use of chemical weapons.

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