people get. it s a huge deal. but you are talking about a microcosm of the population that will have a big say in who survives past saturday. bret: kathy, that is kind of what the caucuses are as well, a microcosm. it s not the whole state that comes out in the caucuses, but more than the straw poll. it s very organizationmly based. exactly. we consider this to be a dry run for the caucuses. the caucus test campaign ability to get people out in the middle of the winter to spend two hours at community meeting. the straw poll is an even bigger lift than that, people have to come from all over the state. $30 admission charge to vote in the straw poll. that is why you get attention at this stage after the game. bret: do agree with kay? i do. bachmann, pawlenty and paul, those would be in my top three picks to finish in straw poll.