police scanner. at the type they thought there were multiple shooters. they texted us and said the shooter was on the 29th floor of mandalay bay spraying bullets down on the crowd. we found out later it was the 32nd floor. it was pandemonium. there were couples that had kids. and everybody was tearing down fence and knocking over barriers. but everyone was pretty respectful in helping each other out. there was a cohesive mentality to keep calm and get out. but it was bad. it was very bad. robert: of the 20-plus that have been told to us by metro police in vegas that have been killed in this, two of them were
everyone needs to move back. all units move back. breach, breach, breach. with us to talk about what we ve heard, jim cavanaugh, a retired atf special agent in charge and former hostage negotiator himself. jim, i m guessing you re going to tell me that s how it s done. that s how it done. it can t be done better. las vegas metro s.w.a.t. did textbook case and also patrol. you had the sheriff on talking about putting rifles. we called that s.w.a.t. light where patrol officers can get a vest on, get a rifle and respond to the emergency. likely they got up there to the 29th floor, swat is coming, they kind of located him in that floor, they got a static position then swat can come in. remember you have to breach the door. people don t think about things like that but a guy locks the
company, lockheed martin. police say he checked into the mandalay bay hotel on thursday, bringing upwards of ten rifles into the room. authorities tell nbc news he was gambling upwards of $10,000 a day as well. joining me now is nbc news justice correspondent pete williams. you said it took an hour and 12 minutes for officers to figure out where paddock was and to break down the door of his hotel room. yes, that s based on two things. the first call to the police that shots were fired came at 10:08 las vegas time. and then we know that the door of his room was breached and found him dead an hour and 12 minutes later. so it s that time it took them to realize where the shots were coming from, the mandalay bay hotel, an upper level floor
29th floor and worked their way up until they finally figured out it was the 32nd floor, which they said they got from a variety of things, going into the floors, hearing phone calls from people in the hotel calling the police and calling the hotel saying i think somebody is firing shots. they sort of triangulate from those various phone calls. there had been some reports that they were keying off smoke detectors going off in the room, which is plausible from all of this kind of smoke that would come out of these weapons, firing all of these rounds, it s plausible the smoke detectors went off. whether that had a role or not, we don t know but putting all that together, that s how they get to his room and blow in the door. first of all, they have to realize that the shots are coming from the mandalay bay hotel and that takes a while just by itself. pete, i said last question i lied. i lot of people come to las vegas to as a friend of mine
equipment up, all the equipment down, up to the 29th floor. considering how heavy that equipment is, the firefighters also had to carry the hoses up and down the stairs so they could connect to the water lines on each floor. rob? looking at that building, it is a really big building. it also looks rather new. how did it not have a sprinkler system? it is definitely a high-rise. the building though was built before 1974, and in honolulu, buildings that old don t have to have sprinkler systems. now i know that seems a bit backwards considering the age of the structure, but the mayor says that you can expect that legislation will be changed in the near future making sure that every building in the city is prepared to handle a fire like the tragic one we saw yesterday in honolulu. older than i thought it was. certainly is true. will, thank you very much. hundreds of thousands of people in turkey mark one year since a failed coup attempt. remember this?