of state saying that if he, went along with that the election deniers and this coalition of people that he is building, they will make sure that donald trump is president again in 2024. basically, subverting our democracy and trying to install him by rigging the election. i mean, they ought to be labeled by anti-democratic extremists. and to your point, and good on you for spending time on your show talking about this for four to, among the media in this country have treated politicians who hold and espouse the authoritarian or hateful ideas with kid gloves. they questioned these figures. and welcome them on the show, simply as politicians with policy differences or nearly controversial points of use. and i m sorry, we are talking about the very existence of our democracy and our country. if you don t call them out for one day are, and crystallized for the american people what these individuals represent. i m sorry matthew, but we are doomed. we are indeed, and i m glad you and i are
of arizona a guy named adrian fantasy is running five points behind mike fish room for secretary of state who is an oath keeper who has pledged that he will not certify any election that joe biden or another democrat winds in 2024. basically taking arizona off the board his logic was that he didn t meet anyone who voted for joe biden tried to argue that it was a fantasy to meet somebody he told my daughter charlotte older who writes for time magazine that he had never met anyone who voted for joe biden is there arizona therefore it was impossible that joe biden had won the state or could win the state that is the kind of person that we are dealing with, there s another guy named jim in nevada, same thing. he is an election denier, it s essential that cisco aguilar the democratic candidate for secretary of state in nevada when, nobody has heard of these guys, so in arizona the
hoping and looking for an alternative in 2024. basically, liz cheney and a handful of democrats doing the job that a lot of republicans are quietly happy to be seeing done. elliott, let s talk about this. i want to get the language corrected. cassidy hutchinson is testimony was heard in the justice department. there are reporting that top officials are openly discussing trumps conduct. it is a meaningful change. they were discussing this already? it s a revealing look inside the justice department. is not an encouraging look at all. here is the deal. they get beat to cassidy hutchinson. they have no idea she s out the bridge he justifies two weeks ago and they are astonished by what they hear. no excuse for that. there is absolutely no excuse
have a big uphill climb ahead of them and you heard senator warren say that this morning, that she was very concerned. but i do want to, given the fact that you are a republican, a life-long republican, it is fair to ask about the state of the party and how you see the future of it? i watched your interview this morning. you were non-committal on whether you support donald trump for president in 2024. basically saying you d likely vote for the republican but non-committal on him specifically. other senate republicans are non-committal. mitch mcconnell as well? i m curious, why is that? i think it would be a mistake to be overly exital. a lot of things will happen between now and 2022. let alone election year this year. let alone next time. where is the line? why is trump s push to overturn the election results and continued insistence the
adequate enough. mcconnell, on his own record, is saying that he would rip support donald trump if he ran for president 2024. basically, the position is, look, all support donny soprano. it is kind of a bad guy. we [inaudible] you have two republicans for years said you cannot negotiate with evil. that was true. and that s what they re doing. they are negotiating with evil. you have to pick a side. we are right, they re wrong. are you for democracy or against democracy? mona, your thought? i mean, the part where i constantly feel as if i m in a twilight zone episode is that trump s sociopath-y is so obvious, the fact that he wanted to watch and re-watch the scenes of violence at the capitol because he was relishing it so much, the man is seriously cracked and evil. and, you know, yet, rather than respond to that in the normal way, his followers love it and