their choice is either you give us what we want or we shut the government down. i keep saying, look, we bring in $200 billion a month, can t we spend what we bring in like the rest of america does? steve: absolutely. you would think they would get the message of november, the message that swept you into office was you got to do more with less. absolutely. and the president doesn t get it. his proposal is to spend $46 trillion over ten years and add $13 trillion to the debt. i don t think we can sustain that kind of debt. steve: one place where they can t sustain the spending binge is wisconsin. you got all the democrats in the senate out there awol. i think eventually it may come back to bite them when the government shuts down because they re not there, who are they going to blame? the republicans? i think it could be a problem. but my favorite scott walker quote is when he said the president got involved ask told him what to do. he said, look, mr. president, when you figure o
megyn: he s getting pummeled by those on the left saying, you ve cut too much, and as to the criticism from folks like you about not making deeper cuts, they say, look, the economy s struggling, it s a difficult time. we can turn to those cuts later, but right now, we need to sustain the economy as it is. no country has spent its way to prosperity. we passed a stimulus bill two years ago. added $1 trillion to it. the germans said, we re going to make cuts. whose economy is growing faster today? germany s. the president does spend more money. he calls for spending $46 trillion in the federal budget, $4 trillion more than was projected before he came into office. it comes from the stimulus, healthcare, and increases to
say. so this is not a matter of you go first or i go first. this is a matter of everybody having a serious conversation about where we want to go and then ultimately get not guilty that boat at the same time so it doesn t tip over. i think that can happen. steve: okay. joining us for commentary is senator rand paul from the russell rotunda. good morning to you, sir. good morning. steve: the president of the united states yesterday said hey, let s not be impatient. this isn t one of these things where i go first or you go first. shouldn t he have gone first? i think he s not really showing much for boldness or leadership. we had an election and everybody in our country now is concerned about the debt, so he gave us a budget plan that s going to spend $46 trillion over ten years and it s going to double the debt. he s going to add $13 trillion to our debt. it s inexcusable and it just shows that he doesn t want to
in local communities, what s the first thing they do if they don t pass the budget, they turn off the lights at the little league ballpark because they want everybody to be up in arms but they want what they want. so really this should be republicans and democrats getting together and saying, this debt is enormous and let s start cutting spending. but the president has introduced something the opposite. $46 trillion over ten years. they re not serious and they didn t get the message. brian: i do think some democrats are serious. senator ken conrad seems very serious and others. for the first time in two years, are willing to take on the president on this. they seem crest fallen. i think there are some democrats in the senate and in the house who recognize the problem. it s just this budget that came out of the administration doesn t appear to recognize the problem. so i agree with you. it s not that there are no democrats recognizing the problem. i think there are some that may com
it s current lly running at mor than $1.6 trillion. joining me from the white house now, melody barnes, mr. obama s domestic policy adviser. melody, let s listen to republican paul ryan speaking just a short time ago, then we ll talk about this. this budget is a punting budget. this budget doesn t address the drivers of our debt. instead it makes it worse by doing nothing. calls for more spending which they call investments, and a lot of taxes. 1.6 in new taxes, 13 trillion added to the debt. we re going to spend $46 trillion over the next ten years? this is not an austere budget. melody, paul ryan has said you can t tax and spend your way to prosperity. what is your reaction to this? well, first of all this is it a tough budget. and the president did several different things in this budget. one, he s saying we ve got to cut some things. either things that aren t working, we certainly have to get those off of our plate.