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His smashed his lips against my face and stuck his tongue in my mouth so fast. And now the country is revisiting previous allegations and denials. My guests this morning, republican congresswoman Barbara Comstock and democratic congresswoman Debbie Dingell. Plus, House Republicans pass their tax plan. This is about giving Hardworking Taxpayers bigger paychecks, more takehome pay. Now its the senates turn. I just think it would be nice just tonight before we go home to just acknowledge this tax cut is really not for the middle class, its for the rich. Is the tax cut really for the middle class . Ill Ask White House budget director Mick Mulvaney and republican senator roy blunt of missouri. Joining me for insight and analysis are amy walter, robert costa of the Washington Post and washington week. Joy reid, host of a. M. Joy on msnbc, and rich lowry, editor of national review. Welcome to meet the press. From nbc news in washington, the longest running show in television history, celebrating its 70th year, this is meet the press with chuck todd. And good sunday morning, im andrea mitchell. Chuck todd is off today. When the stories about Harvey Weinstein first broke last month, many thought the outrage over Sexual Misconduct would pass like a summer storm. Now it feels more like climate change, with nine women coming forward with accusations against Alabama Republican Senate candidate roy moore, republicans are trying to figure out whether to accept him, disown him, or, if necessary, expel him. Then just as democrats were enjoying republican handwringing over moore came the compelling accusation by a radio host and former model against one of their own, senator al franken of minnesota. And if that were not enough, the national revulsion towards this kind of behavior is forcing republicans to confront the fact that the president stands accused of more than a dozen women of Sexual Misconduct and compelled democrats to reexpect their unwavering support for bill clinton, especially how quickly they once dismissed charges against him as pure rightwing politics. Still, this weeks accusations against moore and franken differed in degree and in their response. Yes, i have taken a stand in the past, ill take a stand in the future, and ill quit standing when they lay me in that box and put me in the ground. Roy moore, now facing accusations from nine women, including molesting a 14yearold, assaulting a 16yearold, and unwanted sexual advances. He just grabbed my behind, i mean forcefully grabbed it. I was terrified. He was also trying to pull my shirt off. I thought that he was going to rape me. Moore denies all of the claims and defended by his wife says he will stay in the race. Even after all the attacks against me, against my family, against the foundation and now against my husband, he will not step down. A fox news poll shows moore now trailing Democrat Doug Jones by eight points among likely voters, while Senate Republicans call on moore to get out. I think he should step aside. President trump is dodging questions. Should roy moore resign, mr. President . Leaving responses to the white house staff. He said if the allegations are true, he should step aside. But mr. Trump was quick to weigh in on new allegations against democratic senator al franken, tweeting the Al Frankenstein picture is really bad, speaks a thousand words. Where do his hands go in pictures 2, 3, 4, 5 and 6 while she sleeps . The picture is this one, of franken in 2006 before he was in politics. Radio host Leeann Tweeden said he forcibly kissed her rehearsing for a skit on tour with the uso. He stuck his tongue in my mouth so fast. Franken has apologized. Dear leeann, i want to apologize to you personally. I dont know what was in my head when i took that picture, theres no excuse, and i understand why you can feel violated by that photo. Many democrats calling for a Senate Ethics commission, which franken agrees to. By condemning franken, the more than a dozen women came forward during the campaign accusing mr. Trump of Sexual Misconduct after this access Hollywood Tape surfaced a yore ago. When youre a star, you can do anything. Grab them pie the [ bleep ] the white house is struggling to make a distinction. I think in one case specifically senator franken has admitted wrongdoing and the president hasnt. Also getting new scrutiny, president bill clinton who held a campaign reunion of his Campaign Victory in little rock saturday night. Two days after Kirsten Gillibrand, who the clintons helped elect, said he should have resigned in the 1990s following the Monica Lewinsky scandal. In a radio interview friday, Hillary Clinton firing back. This was a painful time not only in our marriage but in our country, as ive written about. But it was investigated fully, it was addressed at the time. He was held accountable. And joining me now are two members of congress, each of whom has shared stories that they have heard or experienced of Sexual Harassment on capitol hill. Republican Barbara Comstock of virginia and democrat Debbie Dingell of michigan. Welcome both. First to you, both of you, about what youve experienced and seen on the hill. Debbie dingell, youve talked about experiencing Sexual Harassment over the course of your long career. You know, on friday i wasnt planning on going out and doing that me too moment because i know that there are consequences. And the point that i was trying to make on friday was that there are women across the country, restaurant workers, tip waitresses, factory floors, law firms, corporations. So i dont know a woman that doesnt have a story, andrea, in all places all across the country. What are we trying to accomplish from this right now . And that is to look forward. And how do we change the culture and make this not its safer for us to talk about it. But if youre from hollywood or the media or on capitol hill, though i got a lot of ugly comments on friday but also had a waitress that was 21 years old say to me, you spoke for me today. A woman who told me, a 22yearold woman that her boss told her to close the door and get up on the table to dance. Lets really make this a watershed moment that men and women across the country Work Together to look forward to changing the culture. Barbara comstock, weve been here before. I covered the Clarence Thomas anita hill hearings. I was on meet the press that sunday during that horrible weekend. Nothing has changed over these decades. Well, i serve on the committee, the House Administration committee that had the hearings this week and i shared a story that had been relayed to me anonymously. I want to ask you about that story. It was a friend of mine who told me about a victim who wanted to remain anonymous, but a current member, sitting member of congress, i dont know if its democrat or republican, i dont know who it is, but asked this staffer to come over, bring some papers, you know, to his residence and then arrived in a towel at the door. Had the staffer come in and then exposed himself. She left. She then quit her job and has now moved on. But my friend relayed this story to me to understand this is going on right now. I can tell you from the hearing that we had this week, we had a lot of consensus on the changes that need to be made. I got together with congresswoman Jackie Speier and congressman burn and we all went through the items and congresswoman speiers bill and we are on the same page. We are going to get mandatory training, universal, uniform antiharassment, zero tolerance policies in place. We are not going to allow members to have any kind of fund pay for their harassment. That is universally agreed on. And we are also going to have better policies for the victims. So i think this is going to be a change, and i think both debbie and i want to keep the focus on these women who are experiencing this and use our voices in this moment to change this. Weve had a great response from both the men and the women on a bipartisan basis. Like debbie said, people are coming up to us. One of the things that came out of your hearing, congresswoman, is that 15 million was spent over the last two decades to pay off for all kinds of harassment. Thats been incorrectly reported. We dont know exactly what portion that is because this includes the architect at the capitol, Capitol Police and allegations against staff. And its not all Sexual Harassment. I was going to make that point. Age discrimination, wage and hours, overtime, but we are going to clearly say any kind of member harassment cannot come out of any fund. They have to pay that themselves. And be transparent. The other thing theres agreement on is if something is found, it must be transparent. Were going to try to find out. Corporate america has been doing this for years. For years. I mean i also we were talking about how do we make this a movement that makes it across the country. So people do these what infuriates me is these confidentiality agreements. They go and do the settlement and nobody can talk about it. We should be talking about it on the hill and talking about it across the country. Lets look at what happened with uber and silicon valley. Lets talk about politics here. Roy moore, nine women have now come forward. Many people say credibly reporting, you know, actions when to someone who is as young as 14, a molestation, sexual unforced rather forced sexual attention on a 16yearold, congresswoman, do you find these women credible . Yes, i do. Last week i think i was the first woman in the house to come out and say he should step aside. Ive been consistent in all these matters youve talked about. How do you view the fact the president refuses to even comment on it . I appreciate that the president was working with the white house and they have cut off funding to him. The National Senatorial Committee is not funding it. Youve seen people across the board, ted cruz, mike lee withdraw their support and say he should step aside. I still hope he would do that and do the right thing. Roy moore was tweeting for that matter al franken can hit the door with him. Roy moore was tweeting al franken admits guilt after photographic evidence of his abuse surfaces. Mitch, lets investigate. In alabama, according to his tweet, zero evidence allegations, 100 rejected, mitch, moore must quit or be expelled. Is there a double standard here . I dont think theres a double standard. I think weve got to be very careful. Everybody is entitled to be innocent until Proven Guilty. But al franken is going to the ethics committee. Lets see where that goes. Are there more stories . We cant defend any of this. These gotcha questions, there is despicable, ugly behavior across the country. Men and women together. Here we are, a womens panel. This isnt going to get fixed. Men have wives, sisters, daughters, friends, families. Weve got to fix this together and change the culture. By the way, its been going on for too long. Its not just these men, there are a thousand names out there, many of them are dead now. Lets fix the problem. Is democrat lets get the focus back on the women too because they are the victims. Is democratic senator Kirsten Gillibrand wrong when she says bill clinton should have resigned back in the lewinsky scandal . Debbie dingell . I have a thousand thoughts on all this. By the way, the names were talking about, you and i both know these stories go back forever. I want to go forward. I think that weve got to focus on what the future is. Doing gotcha questions to People Like Us isnt going to solve the problem and weve got to start moving forward. And i think one of the things that weve talked about too is having these workplace surveys, really understanding the problem. And i think we do. The politics is going to sort itself out, but for the women in our workplace but also women in workplaces across the country, we need to make sure there are really understanding what the problem is, who are victims, and we know predators target people who are weak and cant come forward. So we need to use this moment where those of us who are in a position to do it can come forward and get say theres going to be zero tolerance. We want it enforced in congress same rules as everybody else and we want the corporate world and hollywood one of the things were doing is saying Harvey Weinstein was running all these settlements and payments perhaps through his business. You cannot take a taxpayer deduction for that. That is going to end. Were going to have to leave it there. Well see whether this is a change, a real change or whether its just more of the same. And we are committed to getting the legislation through. We all, all of us, have to bring about real change in this country. Congresswomen, thank you both very much. As we mentioned, roy moore is digging in, refusing calls from fellow republicans that he back down and get out of the race. Moore Campaign Strategist dean young spoke out this week on why his candidate is keeping his campaign going. Whats happening is were watching a coup attempt by the people of washington, d. C. , the elitists, Mitch Mcconnell, Lindsey Graham and all that type. E elitists, Mitch Mcconnell, Lindsey Graham and all that type. Theyre trying to stop an election of the people of alabama before it even happens because they have already been beaten badly after they spent 31 million trying to beat judge moore. And joining me now is the republican senator from missouri, roy blunt. Senator, great to see you, thank you very much. Good to be with you. So roy moore is accusing Mitch Mcconnell and the rest of the Senate Establishment republicans of trying to drive him out of office. Is he correct . Well, i dont know if hes correct or not, but were at a point now where really alabama voters are going to make that decision. And in the senate, no matter who gets elected from alabama or what happens with anybody else, we need to be sure that weve got an environment where people want to come and be part of that, where women are comfortable being part of that. My chief of staff is a woman, my legislative director is a woman, my press person is a woman. I wouldnt want to have an environment where you couldnt have the best people come, so weve put together a working group, senator klobuchar, and senator capito and senator shelby, we proposed changing the rules so theres mandatory orientation towards these things that shouldnt happen so people know what is perceived to be inappropriate and also to change the law. Going back to the 1980s where it may have seemed reasonable at the time, but in the current law if you report harassment, youre the one that has to go into 20 hours of counseling before you can decide whether you were really harassed or not, thats just totally inappropriate. Politically, are republicans better off if roy moore wins or if he loses . If he loses the seat or whether he wins and democrats think they have an issue Going Forward . Well, you know, i said that i thought the womens story was more credible than his response, that alabama voters deserved a better choice. But theyre going to have to make that decision. They know roy moore a whole lot better than i do. Ive met him once. They watched him in a pretty controversial career for 20 years. Well just have to see what they do. You say that the womens stories were credible. What about the women, more than a dozen, who came out during the 2016 campaign against President Trump. Were they credible . Well, whatever they had to say, people heard that and they elected President Trump the president of the united states, so at some point i think you have to let the voters have a say here. Now, with al franken, republicans are seizing on that. The president has been silent on roy moore since he came back from his trip to asia, yet he seized on al frankens acknowledged misconduct. Franken immediately apologized and welcomes an ethics investigation, not to excuse what he did. But the fact that the president is so quick to jump on al franken but is still silent on roy moore of his own party. Well, i think somebody who i think congresswoman dingell just said youre innocent until Proven Guilty unless you say you did it. Al franken of course said i did this. He said im sorry for it but he also said he did it. I think the president understands you can be accused of lots of things in politics and well see what voters decide. I want to briefly ask you about your own colleague in missouri, claire mccaskill, has talked about the fact that she was a victim of Sexual Harassment when she was an intern. Your own women colleagues have experienced this as well. Well, absolutely, and its totally unacceptable. Back to what i said to start with, in the congress of the united states, you want to have an environment where people are comfortable, wanting to work there, saying they work there, putting on their resume in future years they worked there without feeling like there was an environment that wasnt open and appropriate in both seeking opinions and seeking the kind of advice that the country and the congress needs. Now, after an event on tax reform, which is the big issue facing the senate now, your colleague in arizona, jeff flake, was caught on an open mike saying this. Become the party of roy moore and donald trump, we are toast. What about the political fallout from all of this, and from the impression that this tax bill is opposed by 59 of americans right now according to the latest quinnipiac poll. Well, i think that your comment there after an event on tax reform, so all these things do is they take attention, if we dont handle the environment correctly, if we dont have the rules correctly, because tax reform clearly is going to affect the country. Its going to affect our economic future. Looking at the way that the tax bill has been reported, i can understand peoples concern about it. But when you look at the real tax bill, both house and senate, i think its designed to do two things. One is to create immediately more takehome pay for hardworking families, and the second thing at the other end of the scale, do whatever we can to be sure there are better jobs in the future for those very same families. Weve had eight years of economic stagnation for hardworking families and this tax bill i think creates the opportunity to move dramatically beyond that. Theres plenty of evidence from republicans as well as democrats that, first of all, the Corporate Taxes are permanent. The individual taxes expire in about a decade. It blows a hole in the deficit of at least 1. 5 trillion, but by many nonpartisan estimates, as much as 2. 2 trillion if you take away the gimmicks to just get it under that budget ceiling for now. Well, it doesnt take much in Economic Growth to offset both of those numbers. If we get back to the 70year average of 3. 2 growth instead of the obama year average of less than 2, were up to 3 already. Were anticipating in this bill 2. 6. Every tenth of a percent of growth there makes a huge difference in federal revenue. If you believe tax policy has economic consequences, you dont statically score that, you score that based on what those consequences will be. And ive talked to lots of economists about this who are usually pretty gloomy, who have been very optimistic that this bill does what we hope it would do in terms of making us more competitive all over the world. At a recent wall street journal interview with gary cohn, of course the top Economic Advisor in the white house, they polled the audience, the ceos in that group, who among you would actually reinvest this tax cut into your company and raise wages and only five people in this large group raised their hands. That has not been the history. Corporations dont reinvest this kind of money. When have any of these protections actually proved true . Oh, i think they do reinvest and i think one of the things you do in this tax bill is you create an opportunity to bring maybe as much as 2 trillion back into our economy thats currently overseas because of our tax policy. You want to talk about a stimulus, weve never actually even imagined a stimulus that would be 2 trillion of other money coming back to the country. Ive asked ceos who have that money over there how much of it theyd bring back. Generally the answer is all of it that we havent invested there, and thats most of it. Is it going to pass the senate . I think well pass the senate. Thank you so much. And then it has to be reconciled with the house which is another whole issue. I think these bills are very reconcilable. On the big issues, there are some things with or without the repeal of the obamacare individual mandate . It depends on where the votes are. I think the poor people pay that tax. 80 of the people that pay that tax have total Family Income of less than 50,000. Its one of the many fallacies of obamacare, taxing the people that you theoretically are telling of course without the mandate, though, 13 Million People could lose their insurance. But all of the copayments, everything else, are still in there. Theres nothing that changes in terms of peoples ability to take full advantage of the parts of the aca that encourage people to have insurance. It just decides youre not going to tax people for something that they think they cant afford to do. Senator, we have to leave it there. Thank you very much. Good to be with you. A quick programming note. Monday on the today show, Savannah Guthrie will sit down with Leigh Corfman in his first interview since she accused roy moore of Sexual Harassment when she was only 14 years old. When we come back, much more on roy moore, al franken, and our changing definition of what is unacceptable behavior. Stay with us. C plays throughout another day at the office. Why do you put up with it . Believe it or not you actually like what you do. Even love it. And today, you can do things you never could before. Youre working in millions of places at once with iot sensors. Analyzing social data on the cloud to create new designs. And using blockchain to help prevent fraud. So get back to it and do the best work of your life. In the mirror everyday. To hewhen i lookfraud. When i look in the mirror everyday. Everyday, i think how fortunate i am. I think is today going to be the day, that we find a cure . I think how much i can do to help change peoples lives. I may not benefit from those breakthroughs, but im sure going to. Im bringing forward a treatment for alzheimers disease, yes, in my lifetime, i will make sure. [ click ] [ keyboard clacking ] [ clacking continues ] good questions lead to good answers. Our advisors can help you find both. Talk to one today and see why were bullish on the future. Yours. And welcome back. The panel is all here, robert costa of the Washington Post and host of pbs washington week. Joy reid, host of a. M. Joy on msnbc. Amy walter, National Political editor of the cook political report. And rich lowry, editor of national review. Welcome all. First of all, i want to ask you lets talk about roy moore. Andrew sullivan wrote that there is a moment here that no party is immune from evil, no tribe has a monopoly of good. If these bipartisan sex abuse revelations can begin to undermine the tribalism that so poisons our public life to reveal that beneath the tribes we are all flawed and human, they may not only be a long overdue turning point for women, they may be a watershed for all of us. Amy walter, what do you think . We have been here before. I thought it was important that you raised the anita hill Clarence Thomas moment where it felt like the world had changed, sort of spun on its axis. We elected more women to congress in 1992, a year after those hearings, and yet its now 2017 and it feels like we havent gone very far. I feel like where we are right now is the dam has broken, and yet we dont know what to do with all the water, right . So we say, yes, its there, but now what do we do with the situation that were in . And i dont think its going to be solved in one election cycle with one candidate, and i dont think its going to be solved for the whole host of other women who arent in as congresswoman dingell said, powerful positions or feel like they still are without a voice. They still feel scared and vulnerable. Rich lowry, peggy noonan wrote this weekend that the women of alabama are now being challenged. She said roy moore targeted the deplorables, that was an intentional word. They were people with no sway, no pull. Some of them in the president ial election voted for donald trump. There are better conservatives in alabama than roy moore. Republican women, rise up and raise hell. That would be real loyalty, and to those who really are your own. What is the impact on republicans in alabama . I think it should have been incumbent on the Republican Party to give their voters a better choice. And that would have fundamentally President Trump weighing in very heavily against roy moore and pressuring state Party Officials saying, look, you dont have a future in this party unless you find some way to leverage this guy out of this race. It didnt happen. Now roy moore is running the only race he can, which is saying all these attacks on me are attacks on you, my supporters, and against Mitch Mcconnell. It goes to the cynical demagoguery of the likes of steve bannon. If roy moore killed someone with an ax, steve bannon would say its Mitch Mcconnells fault. Theres a real challenge here for republicans because in washington, the republicans im talking to in the senate, they feel totally boxed in. President trump is not weighing in. Hes not trying to get moore out of the race. And they know if roy moore wins, the senate the senate if youre running next year, he becomes a huge burden. If he somehow loses, the 52seat majority becomes a 5149 just as theyre trying to pass tax reform. But its a very difficult situation when you have governor kay ivey, a republican woman, saying shes going to vote for roy moore. Mitch mcconnell has sway but not enough sway to change this race. Hes viewed as part of the washington establishment. The fact that this is a calculation, were talking about something of such a different degree. You talked about all of the past scandals, you talked about the Monica Lewinsky situation which was clearly an improper relationship. But were talking about children. Were talking about multiple allegations of the abuse of children, and the fact that its even a question i think speaks to the position that the Republican Party finds its in morally. This should not be a question, and the fact that people are struggling with whether or not they should continue to support roy moore for reasons of party, politics, power and tribe is incredibly disturbing. Is the president silent on this, robert costa, according to your reporting because of his own past . And why did he jump on al franken then so quickly, because that made it inevitable that people would be talking about his own record. Talking to people inside of the white house and around President Trump, i said why did he jump in on franken and they said that he could not resist, that he had to take a shot at franken. But hes reluctant because of what happened last year with access hollywood. He knows he was able to escape that controversy and win the presidency, but he doesnt want to wade into his own experiences in the past. So hes trying to have the best of both worlds, they tell me. Can i say just partisan tribalism obviously affects both sides. Now all of a sudden we have a lot of liberals and democrats who are getting virtue on bill clinton saying things they could have said not just 20 years ago but could have said last year and theyre only saying it now because the clintons are yesterday and the past of the democratic party. Theyre yesterday, but the republicans perennially drag them out every time they need an excuse. Democrats always default towards selfemulation. Democrats torture themselves because its part of being a democrat. But the question of franken and trump i think is important. These two things took place one year apart. One year before that uso event at which al franken, you know, admits now, and at least has attempted to repent of what he did in 2006, one year mr. That donald trump was saying because i am a select, which franken was, i can forcibly kiss women and i can forcibly grope them. The identical behavior that he was on twitter attacking franken for. Again, admitting and apologizing and repenting for, he was boasting one year earlier that he could do that because he was a star. Were going to have to leave it there for now. Well have a lot more time in a moment. When we come back, ill talk to white house budget director Mick Mulvaney about the republican tax plan and what do the democrats say about the senates tax bill to make republican senator orrin hatch of utah respond like this. What you said was not right, thats all im saying. I come from the lower middle class originally. We didnt have anything. So dont spew that stuff on me. I get a little tired of that crap. At fidelity, trades are now just 4. 95. We cut the price of trades to give investors even more value. And at 4. 95, you can trade with a clear advantage. Fidelity, where smarter investors will always be. And at 4. 95, you can trade with a clear advantage. Ththe next energyngs toto power our dreams,re will be american energy. Welcome back. House republicans passed their version of a tax plan this week and now the senate is debating its bill. Democrats oppose the republican approach because they say it gives big tax breaks to corporations and the wealthy, while the effect on the middle class is unclear. Republicans argue that the top down cuts will spur Economic Growth that will create more jobs and higher wages for the middle class. That debate was at the heart of a heated moment thursday between democrat Sherrod Brown and republican chair orrin hatch. I just think it would be nice just tonight before we go home to just acknowledge, well, this tax cut really is not for the middle class, its for the rich. Im going to just say to you that i come from the poor people, and ive been here working my whole stinkin career for people who dont have a chance. And i really resent anybody saying that im just doing this for the rich. Give me a break. Joining me now is the director of the office of management and budget, Mick Mulvaney. Director mulvaney, welcome to meet the press. So who is going to get the break, the middle class tax cuts, the individual tax cuts, they expire in a decade. The Corporate Tax cuts are permanent. A couple of different ways to answer that question. Keep in mind one of the reasons, andrea, that a lot of this different pieces and parts expire during the course of the ten years is simply to force this bill into the strange rules in the senate. Were using whats called the byrd rule in the senate, were using reconciliation so we only need 50 votes instead of 60. Certain proposals can only have certain Economic Impact and one of the ways to game the system is to make things expire. The bush tax cuts did the same thing, they supposedly would expire after nine years. If its good policy, it will become permanent. If its bad policy, it will become temporary. So this is done more to force and shoe horn the bill into the rules because we think its good policy. Isnt that an admission that its a gimmick . Youre saying its a 1. 5 trillion tax cut, the impact on the deficit, but impact according to most analyses 2. 2 trillion. According to one analysis ive seen that number. The fact is that youre squeezing it into these rules, but you really do intend for it to be extended down the road, which will explode the deficit even farther. Well come back to your first point about the 1. 5 trillion. Thats the cbo, the nonpartisan cbo score. But Everybody Knows its 100 static. It doesnt consider the possible impacts on the economy of lowering taxes. Its sort of like saying if you sold this coffee mug last year and sold 100 of them for 5, this year you lower them to 4, do you think you might sell more. Thats dynamic scoring, which is what the cbo scoring and so many greg mancue for bush 43 said about onethird of the cost of the tax cuts is recouped by a faster Economic Growth. Never in history have we had the kind of growth from tax cuts that pay for themselves. We have a tremendous opportunity here. One thing that gets overlooked is the country is sort of operating at the new normal. In fact it was until President Trump got elected. So for the last eight years were averaging below 2 growth. You go back to that Congressional Budget Office and thats what they think the new normal is. Forever and ever and ever the country will only grow at 1. 8 or 2 growth. Since President Trump got elected its been 3 . Thats not 3 annual growth rate. It was 3 in the second quarter, 3 in the third quarter. Were looking now probably we have the 2005 1040 from President Trump. Our independent nbc News Analysis of that showed that he would himself, he and Melania Trump would gain at least 22 million from this tax cut, from the estate tax as well, his heirs would benefit. 1. 1 billion. So its not true that the president would not benefit from the tax cut. I cant speak to the president s taxes. I think that was sort of litigated by the American Public during the election. I will say this, the president is going to pay much higher taxes on a lot of his properties because he has properties in high tax states. So i laugh every time i come on Networks Like this and accuse us of cutting taxes on the rich. Every time i go on different networks, they accuse us of raising taxes on the rich. So i think it sort of depends on how you look at it. Were not taking a political point of view here, we are actually going by nonpartisan groups like the committee for a responsible federal budget, all the impact on the exploding deficit, which will impact future generations. I do want to ask you, though, because the president has refused to talk about roy moore since hes back from his trip. And the white house is saying that he said on air force one he would talk about roy moore in alabama. You were a member of congress. This debate over Sexual Harassment has spread to politics as well as to every industry, starting with Harvey Weinstein. Lets talk about roy moore and whether or not he should be the republican nominee and whether he should be seated if hes elected. I do think the president has talked about roy moore. I think he said that he thinks that the voters of alabama should decide. I think thats probably the most common sense way to look at it. He doesnt know who to believe. I think a lot of folks dont know nine women have come out, many of them since the president came back from asia. Hes said not a word. Hes ducked every question. And the allegations are very serious and should be taken very seriously. But ultimately these are up to the voters in the state. You and i are in washington, d. C. To think we know whats going on in other parts of the country if the president has been silent, which he has been on roy moore, why did he jump all over al franken the minute that an acknowledged episode of this behavior before al franken came into politics. That in fact was something the president tweeted about immediately. One of the significant differences there is that franken admits it and roy moore denies it. Music guys, im good. Say goodbye to distractions. Now you can last longer with new ky duration spray. Breaking news, the cult leader and self proclaimed devil himself Charles Manson died overnight. Late details ahead. New fallof out over the al franken harassment aelg menment and judge roy moore facing more pressure. And a plane in distress, forced to land on a street in broad daylight. And the desperate fight against time. And snls call to president barack obama. Early today starts now. Good to be with you on a monday. We begin with news, Charles Monson is