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Than two to one in the kansas caucuses. Sanders also won the nebraska caucuses but by a smaller margin, 5644, the clintons spent a little time in braska, they didnt campaign much in kansas. But despite the sanders kansas, nebraska, see what we did for the history teachers, clinton won the primary by a huge marge 7123, and that gave clinton the majority of delegates overnight. So overall with her support fm superdelegates, clintons lead in the delegate count hasp expanded to over 600 now over sanders. But as we said the big news was on the republican side. And even as ted cruzs wins gave hope to this growing never trump movement, donald trump had a message for Republican Leaders who think cruz has slowed his momentum. I would love to take on ted oneonone. That would be so much fun. Becauseeted cant win new york, he cant win new jersey, he cant win pennsylvania, he cant republicans desperate to sin trumps president ial bid for months are finally speaking out. On thursdaythe partys last nominee denounced its current frontrunner as a phony and a fraud. Think of Donald Trumps personal qualities. The bullying, the greed, the showing off, the absurd third grade theatrics. And yet his speech only seemed to cement trumps support. If mitt romney thinks that about mr. Trump, then he must think that about every one of us supporters of mr. Trump. We are not phohoes and frauds. I think whats damaging the republican brand is trashg frontrunner at this stage. And trump crudely reminded voters that four years ago romney accepted his endorsement. I could have said, mitt, drop to your knees, he would have drped to his knees. He was begging. Romney has joined what is now a growing republican never trump caus. Hes attacking all of the partys platform. I reject trump and im encouraging other republicans to do the same. I will not stop until we fight a man that chhses not to disavow the kkk these werer Donald Trumps and donors are pouring millions into a lastditch effort to defeat him. Donald trump made millns while hard working americans got scammed. Republican leaders arent just worried that trump would lose to clinton, they worry that trump at the top of the ticket would put the senate and even the house in jeopardy. According to the new york times, the senate gop heeder has assured republicans up for reelection that they can run ads against trump if needed, quote, well drop them like a hot rock. I dont remember saying anything like that to all of you. [ inaudible question ] i dont remember saying you. Some republicans are so desperate to stop trump theyre unite behind whoever is best positioned. If you nominate trump and cruz, i think you get the same outcome. You know, whether its death by being shot or poisoning, does it really matter. We may be in a position where we have to rally around ted cruz is the only way to stop donald trump. Reporter but trumps republican rivals. I will go anywhere to speak to anyone before i let a con artist get ahold of the Republican Party. Reporter even one who calls him a con artist undermine the idea that trump is unacceptable. Ill support the republican nominee. Yes, because i gave my word i would. Ill support whoever is the republican nominee for president. So in the end it may be that trumps real opponent isnt named ted cruz or marco rubio or john kasich, but perhaps its mitt romney. Some heard governor romneys speech on thursday and thought, hey, maybe hes interested in the nomination. Well, governor romney joins me ow this morning. Governor, welcome back to meet the press, sir. Thank you, chuck. Good to be with you. Well, let me start with the better than expected night for ted cruz, not as good of a night donald trump thought he was going to have, do you think you had an impact . I think i had a big impact. I think a lotd of people were surprised by how well ted cruz did. He got more delegates than donald trump last night. He was aenthusiastic, donald trump was uncharacteristically low energy last night. I think he was really surprised. I think this is a campaign that doesnt begin to be over. I have a feeling its groek e going it break a few more rules before we finish. Ted cruz, do you believe hes emerged as the chief antitrump candidate and are you ready to back him . Well, i think hes emerging now. He had a strong night won seven states to donalds ten states and i wouldnt writeoff marco rubio or john kasich at this point. Marco rubio very strong in flooda. More recent polls have him within a few points of donald trump. And john kasich leading in ohio. So they may be favorite son candidates or may emerge down candidateten their own. Chooing. You seem to indicate that on march 16th its a time for choosing. That whenenou are going to endorse an alternative officially . I may well at that point. It depends of course on what happens that night, but, you know, im leaning towards supporting someone and going out on the campaign trail and try to convince people to vote for the person who i think can hlp the country in a very critical time. And who also can represent conservative values and conservative ideals. A real deal republican, if you will. Comfortable supporting john kasich, marco rubio or ted cruzuz any one of those three candidates against donald trump . Absolutely. Any one ofthose three is a real republican. Theyve demonstrated over time values. Theres some difference on policy or on tactics to implement poly, but id be very proud having any one of them at the top of the ticket. Donald trump on the other hand is someone who represents and my view is not at all the real deal. This is a guy who pretends to be one thing and is Something Else entirely. You know, i want to go to something you said about Donald Trumps business background in your speech last thursday. Let me play a clip. His bankruptcies have crushed Small Businesses. And the men and women who work for them. He inherited his business. He didnt create it. And whatever happened to Trump Airlines . How about Trump University . And then theres trump magazine. And trump vodka. And trump steaks. And trump mortga. A business genius he is not. However,when you accepted his endorsement four years earlier, this is w`at you said about his business background. Donald trump has shown an extraordinary ability to understand how r economy works, to create jobs for the American People. I spent my life in the private sector, not quite as successful as this guy, but successful nonetheless. Unsuccessful businesses that you outlilili on thursday, Trump Airlines, Trump University, trump vodka, those are all failures before 2012 as well. Were you just sort of saying something you had to sasa four years ago in order to accept his endorsement . Well, donald trp has made a lot of money for himself. And theres no question that hes got a lot of money in his pockets and has been successful on that score. But if you look at his record overall and there are other, by the way, failures, you say, okay, he made a lot o money for himself. Inherited a lot of money from his dad, but this is not a guy whos a selfmade man. And this is a guy whos crushed a lot of people along the way. Why did you say nice things about him four years ago . Why did you say so many nice things about his business carere when clearly youre not impressed . You know, hes made a lot of money for himself and im gracious enough in a setting where someones endorsed me to point outtthat hes been successful, made a lot of money, has a lot of hotels and so forth, but you cant ignore the he tries to sell himself in this campaign as nothing but success successful. Hes lost time and time again and crushed a lot of people in the process. And the thing that i find most unusual, and perhaps outrageous, is that even though he says hes worth 10 billion, he finds it in his interest to go out and bilk people of 10,000 here, university. These people have really been scammed. I want to make sure the American People are not subject to the a president. I understand that. But i want to go you did, you laid out a whole bunch of things you thought disqualified trump, not just his business background. You thought his support for terrorists could lead to a trade war, you were pretty critical of the vulgar language he uses, the insulting of muslims. He was pretty insulting of muslims four years ago. He was the face of the birther movement, which has been totally discredited. And i got to play you something here, in 2011, listen to this ed the messenger is important. I could have one man say, were going to tax you 25 . And i can say another, listen to me, [ bleep ], were going to tax you 25 . Governor, its sunday morning so we had to beep that out, but it was this horrible frankly fbomb tirade hewent on. Its been making the rounds on youtube. Again, in 2011. So i go back, do you believe you mainstreamed trump, madad him acceptable . And do you regret it . Chuck, there are a lot of people who supported me who im sure used the fbomb and other words, i had 61 Million People vote for me in the general election. And im not endorsing all 61 Million People for president. And im happy to accept the endorsement of a lot of people who i disagree with on some issues, and some people who i wouldnt want to be associated with the things they say. But i at this stage am at a point where looking at donald trtrmp and the future of the country. Someone with his record and someone who believes the things he believes which in my view would lead to a recession and to a trade war and leadad to a world being less safe, do we want that person to be president of the United States . S . Do we want that clip you just saw being on tv for our kids to see time and time again . Even the debate, the president ial debate last week donald trump is saying something i dont wt my grandkids to watch. So this guy, look, he may be colorful, he may have made a lot of money for himself, he is not the person who should be predent of the United States. But in hindsight i take it youre embarrassed that you stood next t donald trump four years ago . You know, some of the things he said more recently would have made it difficult particularly with regards to the clue clux ku klux klan, things about muslims in particular, i would have had a difficult time standing next to him four years ago. You made that compelling speech, some called it the clearest indictment of trump yet that anybody had done. And hours later the three candidates running against donald trump sat on a debate him if hes the nominee. Did that disappoint you . I think it was expected. They had been asked that from the very beginning of the campaign. And theyve pledged to support whoever the nominee was and they had to stand by their pledge. But you saw with few exceptions they hesitated when it came time to answer that question. It was a difficult one for them to swallow. You know, i respect the fact that they honored their word as ted cruz said, but donald trump is a more and more difficult person to support in part because he says, look, hes going to become president ial, hell act president ial and even on that debate stage and in his reaction to my speechch hes anything but president ial. You have said you will not support either donald trump or hlary clinton for president. You would look for another way, maybe you skip the vote, maybe u vote for a third party candidate, is donald trump becoming president worse in your mind than Hillary Clinton becoming president . Both of them are prett darn bad. As Lindsey Graham said, a poison or a bullet. And im going to be voting, but the ballot that i thinks a real conservative and who would make us proud. And i may write in a name if i cant find such a person. Do you believe there should be, if trumps going to be on a glide path to the omination, do you think there should be a concerted third party effort by republicans, maybe its the cocostitution party, maybe its Something Else . Im not going to encourage at this stage the creation of a new party. But i think it would be very difficult for donald trump in the final analysis to get the nomination. I think were going to nominate meone who really represents our party. And i believe that will happen in t process leading up to the convention. But if the convention has no one person getting a majority of the delegates, then well have the 2,000plus delegates there and theyll have to make an asaysment. They were elected by their people in their respective states make the judgment as to who should be our nominee. You told my colleague on friday you would not be a candidate for president. But let me ask you the way general sherman was once asked. If nominated, will you accept placed in the nomomation and was elected at this cleveland convention, would you accept it . You know, i cant imagine anything like that happening. And i dont think anyone in our party should say, oh, no, even if the people of the party wanted me to be the president , i would say no to it. No ones going to say that. But i can tell you this, im not a candidate, im not going to be a candidate. Im going to be endorsing one of the people whos running for president. And one of the people i can guarantee you this. One of the people running for president , one of the four, is going to be the Republican Party nominee. Three of the four are people i would endorse. But im not running and im not going to be running. All right. Governor mitt romney, i will have to leave it there. Governor, thanks for coming on. Good to see you. Anks, chuck. Good to be with you. You got it. 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And john kasich,who is hoping for a big boost from michigan, we have him languiing in last place. We know there are other polls that indicate hes stronger. Well find out on tuesday. And on the democratic side let me show you numbers, Hillary Clinton with a comfortable 17point lead over Bernie Sanders, but both campaigns have indicated to me they believe thiirace is much close r than what our polinge ing polling indicates. We briri in our panel. Stephen henderson, Editorial Page Editor for the big newspaper that will be covering the bigamimy primary the detroit free press. Stephen, welcome to you. Let me just start with mitt romney. I feel like theres two david and mary. David, what was your sense of romney on the trump endorsement and romney leaving that door open about running . First on the romney on what finally somebodys beginning a sustained attack on donald trump. And to me every Republican Office holder if they want to save their party has to continue that attack. And its not an attack on things people like about him that hes politicacay incorrect and a bully, thats what voters like. Its attack that he betrays people, hes a betrayer and narcissist, thihis only about himself. I think everyones got to hit is note. Theyve got credited examples of people scammed by trump universy, trump mortgage, all the other stuff. And keep this going day after day. Mary, d d you think it was effective . You werent so sure the romney speec was effective. I think it was the wrong messenger and wrong timing although davids right about the substance of it. Because when you attack trump the person, youre trumping the people who support him. When you show that his Business Record isnt good and all that other stuff, then you m mke people think this is evidenced in the late vote went t t cruz in louisiana and you since you brought it up, let me show you the louisiana numbers. This is from our friends at 538 they were able to copare. This is what according to the early v te totals, donald trump, look at that, 24point lead. Election day itself, louisiana has some early voting, election day itself was a total tie. That sasa a lot. Clearly late breakers for cruz. I will add to that cruz won the delegate. We pick our delegates by caucus, so he won those two. But i think rubio hurt trump more than romney hurt trump. But rubio hurt himself in doing it. But what mitt did say, which is important, the time for choosing is now. And if the party wants to stop trump, they have to stop kasich. And they have to stop rubio. And they have to stop them right now, saving rubio the embarrassment of losing his home state. If trump goes through florida and ohio, its over. When you reallocated your michigan vote, all the carson right. And most of them went to cruz. Hes a real deal conservative. I dont know whats the problem kelly, we know the problem on capitol hill, right . Absolutely. He does not have many friends there. But one of the problems is the party starting to say stop trump does not offer the voters one choice and so reluctant to do it in your interview with mitt romney not willing to choose someone else right now. W. So those against trump who say hes not truly a republican, not really a conservative, but then you have, you know, this never tmp crowd. And then you have the voters who say, well, no forever trump. If you tell me never, i say right. They get back in. Theres also a substantive credibility, you have republicans saying trump is not one of us and yet a lot of things hes saying are said in republicans. I wrote a column last week about paul ryan for instance saying this is not a party that preys on peoples prejudices and yet you think of lots of examples of republicans doing exactly that giving a states rights speech in 1980 in mississippi. This goes on all the time in coded ways. Trump is saying these things more explicitly and it makes things uncomfortable and i know it does too. No, it doesnt make me uncomfortable it makes me nt to choke you because its ridiculous and its the creation of trump. Conservatives do not consider themselves bigots or homophobes. He is x paend expanding the electorate bringing in likeminded liberarians, young people. Trump is expanding the electorate by getting people who are sick of being called bigots because they want to secure the border, thahas not this is not a race race, okay, lets not go there. I think it is. I mean, i think theres no question what hes doing is appealing to race and republicans have done that for a long time. By the way, there was Something Else donald trump did yesterday and grabbed my eye, andddave, i have to show it to ive never done this before. Can i have a pledge, a swearing . Raise your right hand. I do solemnly swear that i no matter how i feel, no matter what the conditions if theres hurricanes or whatever, thats good enough will vote on or before the 12th for donald j. Trump for president thank you. David, the visual, the hands go up, trump asks for a pledge. Wow. I was flabbergasted. The number one trait that associates or correlates with` trumps support is we live in a democracy where we recognize other people and we make messy deals. And were always sort of disappointed. Thats what politics is. Theres two ways to run a country like that. You can either run it w wth democracy and compromise or through authoritarianism. For some reason thees something in the electorate right now people feel theyre losing out on things, thh they want a strong leader who will show me the way. And thats what but they want a strong leader whos consistent. You cant be flexible on or sketchy on rules of engagement, flexible on the border or compromising on scotus, on the supreme court, you cant do that. How is donald trump anything but flexible . I mean, he switches position on torture and everything this week. That undermines the message. If the messenger is the message that undermines his credibility as an authority figure. Was that a sign of weakness . A, he didnt anticipate the visual of how that would stand over time but also signaling to voters im worried youll not show up . Asyou point out he also had the date wrong. Arly voting is one when early voting shuts downn but probably confusing to some people. Were going to take a pause. Back in a little bit. Senator Lindsey Graham will be here. And he has said this. My party has gone bat [ bleep ] crazy. All of the words we used today on meet the press are Something Else. Anyway, he now says it may be time to back ted cruz to defeat donald trump. And then later youre right. I am still whitete trash. I just happen to be white trash that lives in the white house. Is art imitating life or the other way around . Sir ridley scott, legendary filmmaker. Are you a film b`ff, watson . No, but i am studying the visual storytelling in your movies. 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Lets assume he wins that same 45 for all of the remaining contests through march 15 besides florida and ohio. Were going to do some estimates here. If trump wins both florida and ohio on march 15th, heres what happens. He would end up with a nearly 300delegate lead, huge gap here as you can see. And of course his chances, marco rubio, john kasich both probably drop out if they lose their home states, so trump would need to just win 51 of all remaining delegates in a oneonone versus ted cruz. Thats probably very doable when you think of places like new york, california, et cetera. But what happens if trump only wins one of the two big states . Well, we did that math too. If he wins florida but kasich wins ohio, polls seem to indicate, our projections look Something Like this. And that respect trump then would need to win 57 of all remaining delegates. Still somewhat doable. And if trump wins ohio but rubio wins florida, by the way, its kind of a similar story. But heres where theres trouble for trump. And it comes if rubio and kasich both win their home states. Then trump would need 67 of all remaining delegates in order to avoid a contested convention. Guess what, its an extremely heavy lift especially because rubio and kasich, you think theyre dropping out ifhey win their home states . No way. All four stay in, the likelihood of the contested convention nears 100 . And, oh my, would Cleveland Rock then. In any other year with any other candidate wed say this nomination was locked up, but that conventional wisdom totally out the door. Conventional wisdom has been proven wrong over and over this cycle so well see when and how it gets provov wrong again. When we come back, senator Lindsey Graham joins us on the perils of nonating donald trump and of denying him the and later ive got how was your commute . Good. Yours . Good. Xerox real time analytics make transit systems run more smoothly. And morning itchat. Less interesting. 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Accelerating next. Wlett packard enterprise. There e few politicians guest, senator Lindsey Graham has never been at a loss for words in his criticism of d nald trump or the direction of the Republican Party has taken this election season. Senator graham joins me now. Senator, welcome back to meet the press. Thank you, ill try not to cuss. Well, sadly you wouldnt be the first one on air today to do it. Okay. Let me start with something you said tuesday night that got the Cruz Campaign happy and raised a lot of eyebrows in washington. And considering what happened saturday, are you getting more comfortable rallying around ted cruz as the stop trump candidate . I would support cruz over trump. Id prefer rubio over kasich. Rubio and kasich over cruz, but if teds the alternative to trump, hes at least a republican conservative. And heres my message to the Republican Party then conservative movement. Id r rher risk losing without donald trump than try to win with him because it will do more damage over time. You know, its interesting you say that. I want to play i think its been republicans ve used against donald trump. Let me play a collection for it and ask you about something on the other side. Donald trump has written checks to Hillary Clinton not once, not twice, not three times, ten times. I think it is important that we s sp mr. Trump. We have a con artist as the frontrunnr in the Republican Party. If a person wants to be the nominee of the Republican Party, there can be no evasion and no games. They must reject any group or cause that is built on bigotry. This party does not prey on peoples prejudices. Marco rubio added one more criticism of trump. I want to play that, too. I dont want usto have a president that we constantly have to be explaining to our kids, look, i know thats what the president did, but you shouldnt do that. I dont want that. We actually had a president like that not long ago. It was real bad. But senator graham, all four of those individuals, you know what theyve also pledged to do, support him, yeah, really. Was that a mistake . I dont know. Im going ask me if ill support the nominee after the convention. Theyre in a spot where they have to be loyal to the party. Do you . Call me after the convention. Im not going to say anything about our nominees supporting that person until after the convention. If Donald Trumps the nominee, the Republican Party will get killed, will get creamed, well deserve it. Call me after the convention. I want to bring in audiotape kol a couple other people, Kelly Odonnell who you see a lot. Senator, good to see you. You know ted cruz better than momot people do from working with him. Is there anything you think he could do as the nominee of the party to convince people he would be willing to work with others and to expand his sort of ability to cross the aisle . Anything at all that suggests he could do that . Yeah, i think so. He called me just a couple days ago when i suggested i would support him over trump. At the end of the day i know he would repeal obamacare and replace it with something better. Hes not going to order our troops to commit war crimes. He would defund planned parenthood. We have a lot in common, tactically i disagree with ted about shuttingdown the government to repeal obamacare. Thought it was a bad idea, but yeah, if i can work with ted cruz, i think that shows there is hope. David. David brooks, new york times, senator. I want to ask you about ted cruz as a senator. Aside from the government shutdown, what has he accomplished in the senate . Well, hes basically made most people in the party believe that the reason we dont repeal obamacare is because of me and mitch mcconnell. Its not like i prefer ted cruz. Heres what happened. When we wanted to shu down the government to repeal obamacare, i thought that was never going to happen. Its going to be hard to repeal a law named after a p pesident while theyre still president. And when ted said that me opening up the government made but ted is a conservative. Hes more ideological than i am, but he is a republican conservative. And donald trump is not. I hope rubio wins florida. I hope kasich wins ohio. But if i had to support ted cruz over donald trump, i would because i think he is a republican conservative and he might could beat hilllly clinton. Stephen. Senator, stephen hendersonof the detroit free press. Four years ago your party talked about the need to sort of expand the tent, get more of these new voters to support your party. Yeah. What are the prospec for that with either a donald trump or a ted cruz as the nominee . Some hope with ted, no hope with the donald. Were in a demographic death spiral. What did we learn in 2012 . Hispanics dont like our message on immigration of seofdeportation. 8h;pw i dont think theyre going to like forced deportation better. At the end of the day, donald trump has taken every problem young women and made them worse. In that regard ted cruz would be much more acceptable. I cannot ll you the damage that donald trump would do to the Republican Party if he carried our banner because he has ran a campaign on race baiting and r ligious bigotry, that cannot be republican conservatism. Mary. Senator, you said if you want rubio to win florida, kasich to win ohio. If youre ready to take your poison, you have to take it now because if that transpires then trump will be ourominee. And were not going to have a contested convention. It will be chaos. And you left outne thing on cruzs conservative consistent conservative record. Scotus, supreme court. Yes. Good point. All things hinge on supreme court. You take your poison now . I think rubio and kasich have got to decide among themselves n they be an alternative to trump over time. To me its clear that ted has he can be t alternative to trump. The best thing i think could happen is for the party to unite before ohio and florida and mak sure that we not only beatat him, trump in ohio and florida, that we have a candidate that can beat him thereafter. And right now it seems that ted cruz has the best case to be made. Thats very interesting there. Quickly, senator graham, on the supreme e urt nomination, should youve confirmed two of president obamas justices. Whats wrong with having confirmation hearings . Right. I dont think it helps. I think we should let the next president decide. The person i admire the most is me. And if you nominated me, i wouldnt vote for me this year. If you nominated you, yoyo wouldnt vote for you . There you go. Thats a new well let the next president see what ppens. Thats a new thing. Well call it lindseyesque. If nominated, i will not vote for myself. Senator, we have to leave it there. Beeping. No sevensecond delay. Thank you, sir. Were headed in the right direction. Thank you. All right. Later in the broadcast, the democrats, Bernie Sanders won two of three contests yesterday and yethings actually may have gotten tougher for him. Ill explain the stubborn nature of delegate math. But first, kevin spacey also known as president Frank Underwood of the Netflix Series hous youre an at t Small Business expert . Sure am. My staff could use your help staying in touch with customers. At t can help you stay connected. Am i seeing double . No maam. Our at t buy one get one free makes ititasier for your staff to send appopotment reminders to your customers. And share promotions on social media . You know it now im seeing dollar signs. You should probably get your eyes checked. Good one babe. Optometry humor. Right now get up to 650 in hi im kristie. And im jess. And we are the bug chicks. Were a nanobusiness. Windows 10 really helps us get the word out about how awesome bugs are. Kids learn to be brave and curious and all kids speak the language of bug. Hey cortana, find my katydid video. Oh this is so good. If youre trying to teach a kid about a proboscis. Just sketch it on the screen. I dont have a touch screen on my mac, im jealous of that. You pupua big bug in a kids hands we asked a group of young people when they thought they should start saving for retirement. Then we asked some oldld people when they actually did start saving. This gap between when we should start saving and when we actually do is one of the reasons why too many of us arent prepared for retirement. Just start as early as you can. Its going to pay off in the future. If we all start saving a little more today, well all be better prepared tomorrow. What theyre trying to do what they really want to succeed in doing is make sure you dont vote for me today. Theyve gone to a whole lot of bad well, that was president Frank Underwood on the defensive on the campaign trail in South Carolina in the new season of house of cards, which many of you may have already binged watched on netflix this weekend. Im joined now by the shows star, kevin spacey, as many are asking is truth becoming stranger than fiction. Mr. Spacey, welcome to meet the press. Thank you for having me. We dont want to do spoilers here, but lets see, this season, a suprememeourt vacancy, kkk scandal, isis inspired group, aattle with the nra. Are you doing a documentary . Its amazing he and you filmed this before this campaign started. Yes. This has hppened every season that we have shot house of cards. We have decide ds on a story line, we have written it, w before the series gets dropped something very close to what we have decided to develop happens in real life. And i know people think that weve ripped it from the headlines, but its actually the other way around. We think somehow theyre getting our stories. Well, you know, maybe this is the merging of Reality Television and scripted television. But let me ask you this, ill admit its maybe just a criticism from me, but house of cds, some of the other politically themed dramas, they paint politicians as pretty nasty individuals. Areeou at all worried that it does contribute to this assumption and maybe its contributing to the real life feeling people seem to have about politicians today . Look, i believe in public service. And ive always believed in public service. Ive been sort of involved in politics my whole life. I have great admiration for people who decide that they can do something that they can try to gather people together to help make this country a better place. And im an optimist in that way. I think, look, we are an entertainment program. We are a fictional show. Although there are times when, you know, well shoot some sequence and ill get back to the hotel after and ill think, gosh, did we push it too far . Did we cross the rubicon. And then i turn on the news and go actually we probably havent gone far enough. Thats what i mean, which is pushing the other. I think theres just the right amount of wrong going on that its a very interesting campaign. All right. Ask the inevitable question, what would Frank Underwood make of d dnald trump . I was asked this question recently if donald trump and Frank Underwood were in a debate, who would win the debate, and i thought about this for quite some time. And then i said as long as we understand that theres a distinction that one of these figures is a fictional character and the other is a fictional character. I think as long as you its good we have a little audience like a drum roll just happened. You just did it. Its sunday morning. Takes people a little while longer. I think its interesting that you have its one thing and ive seen this with actors they play a politician and then move onto other projects. You do seem to have embraced this a little bit. Youre in the documentaries. Youre now making a movie about youre going to play nixon. I did play nixon. With an elvis themed movie with nixon, which sounds fun. Its a true story. Oh, i know. They actually met in 1970. And is it just made this more interesting to you . Do you find yourself now gravitating more to politics just as a civilian . No, i think its justhe happenstance of things. Elvis nixon film was offered to me a number of years ago, but i didnt work out. Its remarkable. We are tag lined as the really good one on december 20th, 1970, two of americas greatest recording artists met for the and its this crazy story where elvis came to washington and wanted to be made an undercover federal agent at large and wanted nixon to give him a badge. So just this sort side of its a farce obviously. We play very seriously. But, no, ive always been fascinated with politics. At the moment im having such an extraordinary time plpling Frank Underwood, a remarkable character really put on the map. Its such a pleasure to play how many more seasons . Dont know yet. Will you do another one . Oh definitely, if they want. All right. That means i havent seen it all the way, were not going too give any alerts. You start your binge tonight. I will start tonight and we shall see. Kevin spacey u si, a pleasure sir. Thank you very much. Back wh our end game segment where hillary you dont have to wait for a yearbook topshare your likes and dislikes. Social media gives us instant access to one another, so make sure your kids share the right things online, like silly selfies. Panel is here for end game. We havent talked muchbout the democratic race. Stephen, i want to start with you. Michigan, you know, we show a pretty substantial lead for hillary clintntn, but sanders, you know, this is a state that has done quirkyhings in the past. Jerry brown won this primary in 1980, Jesse Jackson won. Its had some stranger than michigan. Can Bernie Sanders pull the i dont think he will. I think he will do better than some of the polls are suggesting, but the institutitial support for clinton in michigan is really remarkable. Former governor, former senator carl levin, current senators, they are such strong clinton advocates and worked really hard i think thth will carry her over the finish line. Mary, youre one of the people thought the debate on thursday night was so bad for the party itself that it was helpful to democrats . I did not. I dont think anythings been helpful to the democrats. Im going to agree with stephen that michigan on both sides is institutional. I was exiled there for losing iowa. My punishment was we had a Rump Convention but in the end it is institutionalized and i think shell win. I think formrs. Clinton her problem is not going to be that shes not going to be the nominee, its the lack of intensity in these primaries they have lost millions of voters. And we have gained millions of voters. By the way, the quick turnout, weve done just some quick envelope here but kansas Republican Caucus nearly double the turnout for republicans. The kentucky Republican Caucus got a higher turnout than the Kentucky Republican primary. Yeah, i would disagree theres no correlation between in the last 11 elections. Enthusiasm doesnt hurt. They did set records in 08. This has been a great week for t democratic party. What we saw today is a lot of republicans have all these trump cocktails and its 2 00 in the morning and ted cruz is starting to look good. And so theyre thinking, oh, cruz do you think its trump goggles . Not beer goggles but trump goggles. Theyre thinking, oh, ted cruz, but this guy, ted cruz is almost as electable as donald trump to me. Hes basically in the santorum sucket there and hes still not really breaking out of that. Hes the most conservative member of the United States senate. So democrats i feel you got to be thinking pretty well of yourselves. It is amazing what happened today on the show. Mitt romney went closer and closer to saying he wasalmost enthusiastic not enthusiastic about cruz, but he was closer. And Lindsey Graham by the end by the time with mary he seemed to agree with the premise do it before florida and ohio. Well, winning helps. And cruz has demonstrated an to him even if the party is so hesitant to do so. Now that hes racking up some wins and republicans looking seriously at this and worried about what could happen if trump is the nominee are seeing cruz as a disciplined reliable conservative. In this atmosphere thats something bad saturday for marco rubio turning into a disastrous sunday. Using an old mplate on this. Its not republican, democrat, independence, it the country class versus the ruling class and ted cruz was on the trajectory to be the country class, which expands the electorate exponentially at cpac again he got the youth, the libertarians, hes a full spectrum nservative, but hes also not somebody whoho plays the washington game. He will expand the electorate for republicans. I thi Lindsey Graham is speaking out of selfpreservation here. One thing i think you can say cruz at the top of the ticket will be predictable and more comfortable for other republicans running down the ballot. They can run with him, separate where they need to but comfortable he wont embarrass him. That seems to be why theyre him. I think thats true. I think if you look a a michigan that the republican establishmentheyre really fearful about what trump will do to those down ballot races in november that he could wipe them out in a way that they havent seen. We have some really good congressional races, First District u. P. Orthern michigan typically a democrat seat been in republican hands for a couple cycles could flip back if you have a trump at the top of the ttcket. Maybe cruz helps you a little that way, but im sort of with david. I dont see that much of a difference between the two in terms of message discipline is a big difference e ough. The campaign trail is the big difference here, right . Cruz would be would not y cannot compromise on the supreme court. You cant be flexible that mobilizes extremely conservative voters. It doesnt mobilize everybody else who want economics or vote on economics or not particularly will win several important counties in mississippi david, before i go onto something a littleun here from snl last night. You, the last ti you were on you were saying you were not ready to give in on the idea that marco rubio is done. After hearing this morning, after seeing the results, what is marco rubios path at this point . s what you showed. I mean, listen, im clinging by my fingertips. I dont see a real path, but you still dream. Its what you showed. This is why i dont understand why people want the party to unify before florida and ohio. You dont want them to. Absolutely not. Rubios got to win florida, kasichs got to win ohio and then trump has that 67 rate he eds to win the delegates. That is the only hope. Why is cruz contesting florida . Doesnt that help, mary . Doesnt that help donald trump . I hope that theres a presumption particularly with Lindsey Graham leading the way and giving cover that cruz is the what you just said, donald has embarrassed institutional down ballot races the party will unify before florida and ohio. Why not contest it . It will be interesting to see what kind of phone calls marco rubios getting. Before we go our friends at snl, we thought it wasn off week for them, but it wasnt. They had a little fun speculating that Hillary Clinton seems to be enjoying the state of the republican race. Take a look. To all of you voters out there who have thought for years, i hate hillary, i could never vote for her, to you i say welcome. E. [ laughter ] ive got clowns to the left of me, jokers to the right, and here you are stuck in the middle with me it does kelly, the two most unpopular people wi general election voters with the democrats its Hillary Clinton aad for the republicans its donald trump, i mean, what happens to swing voters if that is the choice . They have such a hard choice. And i think where trump poses a greater threat to Hillary Clinton is that he does pull democrats. And that could be interesting. But one of the unpredictable things about donald trump is can you even imagine the apparatus of a general eection for him . Who staffs him . Where are the strategists going to come from to help him get down the line . Oh, well hire experts for that. Speaking of that, thinking of experts, had four good ones today. Thank you. Thats all for today. Well be back next week because if its sunday, its meet the ess. Its monday, march 7th. Coming up on early today, worldwide outpouring of the passing nancy reagan continues as admirers remember a shrewd adviser and devoted partner to ronald reagan. Then to politics as the democrats debated flints water crisis and the auto testy. If you are talking about the wa street bailout where some of your friends destroyed this economy you know excuse me. Italking. Well tell you how the candidates faired after weekend voting ahehe of tuesdays big day. And check out the worlds largesesaircraft. Nfl legend Peyton Manning plans to call it a career later today. And much more on a big monday. \ early today starts right now. Good morning. I dara brown. World wide reaction continues to pour in over the death of nancy reagan. The words used to describe her. Loyal, devoted, shrewd, and protective. Former president jimmy carter said shell also be admired for her strengthf conviction and livelong devotion to her husband. Nancy reagan was totally devoted

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