Who are looking to profit . You know, i think that theres a difference between a septa issue. And if there are only gonna be 500,000 people in town, those tickets were going to go quickly. I mean, so the ticket but i do think that the city has done the Convention Visitors bureau, visit philadelphia, and the administration have done a better job over the last several weeks toning down peoples sense of how challenging its going to be to move. Its gonna be challenging. But how challenging its going to be to move around in the city, and i think theyve done a pretty good job of it. And i think the people have discounted the problem. They understand its going to be difficult, its gonna be crowded, and theyre gonna have to figure out, and theres gonna be some negative behavior that goes on. But i think people are going to be here in big numbers. I think george is right. Its the timing of this. At the beginning, the city and septa, there were, you know this was like the popeocalypse, the popeageddon. It was just unbelievable. How are we gonna get out of the city . How are we gonna get into the city . But now its calmed down a bit. I think both the world meeting of families and the city, you know, and nutter and septa have done a good job in trying to calm the fears of most people. But here you have a once in a lifetime, or for those of us who were here in 1979, twice in a lifetime event with the pope coming to philadelphia. And i think that i do think that there were those who wanted to profit by it, going on ebay and selling pope tickets, which there is a special place in hell for people who do that. [ laughter ] literally. [ laughs ] christine, that may not be very catholic to resell pope tickets, but its still american. Hell is not a catholic thing. Hell is ecumenical. No, its not. But i will say this the message is this is not woodstock. The goal is not to sort of set attendance record, but instead there are two important things to remember. First, its a great opportunity for the faithful, both catholics, as well as noncatholics, who are faithful to engage with probably one of the most dynamic religious leader in the world. Second is an opportunity for philadelphia to reassert itself on the global stage. What most people will remember 20 years from now will not be the logistical nightmares or the communications strife or the gripes, but instead would be the message that pope francis will deliver and the reception that he will receive from our city and its citizens, and i think were ready for that. Ajay, renee, i think a lot of people are still, though, for right now, talking about logistics. We learned that theres gonna be a campground in Fairmount Park right near strawberry mansion. Theyre going to try to have facilities place to get food, go to the bathroom. These people, though, will have to walk two miles down into center city and back through some neighborhoods they may not know, varying different kinds of neighborhoods. And you look at that and you think, will it be fine, or is that a potential issue . Listen, its gonna be fine. Thats the bottom line. People want to come here to see the pope. Youre absolutely right. Thats what theyre gonna remember. Theyre gonna remember what he says. The fbi, the cia, the secret service, everybody is involved. And the city and septa, all these people have come together now as partners. And so now those tickets have sold. They are gone. Yes, its gonna be on ebay, but they do that at big events all the time. Thats human nature. The bottom line, its gonna be safe. Youre gonna have police all over. People should feel comfortable in coming because its something that they will never be able to do again probably. And scalping, if somebody sells water for 10 bucks, thats the way it is . Theyre just gonna have their 10 to buy the water. I agree in general with ajay, but i do think we have to be concerned about what the shortterm reaction as a destination city, whats gonna be the shortterm reaction to this to all of this movement. Its one thing to walk one day two miles and back. Its another thing to have to walk two or three days two miles back. People will make that decision. People will make that decision if they want to do that or not. Its true, but can i but im sorry for cutting you but they are gonna make that decision, but the question is, from a destination point, whats the criticism going to be and whats the reporting going to be in the short term after the events over . Rightfully so, we are focusing on the last two days, which will include the popes visit. But this is a weeklong in terms of a philadelphia event, its a weeklong event, the world meeting of families, which is an international event, which is not like woodstock. These are holy these are pilgrims that are coming from around the world. Ive been working on the visas. Im sure. These people are coming from vietnam, from honduras, from kenya, from places where this man has a message that is so attractive, and i think that we have to understand that in the runup to the pope coming, its going to be a joyful celebration, a spiritual celebration, so while there may be some logistical problems and there may be people beefing because there arent enough pope portapotties, i do think that theres gonna be a good tenor set prior to the 26th when he actually sets foot in philly. Lets talk a little bit about what he will talk about. I know you said youre going to go to the event on Independence Mall where he will talk about immigration and religious freedom. Some people wondering will he talk about the sex abuse scandal. It is not on the list. He has spoken out in the past, embracing people this past year, setting up a tribunal and a commission. Given whats going on in philadelphia, some people think it would be remiss not to talk about. What is your prediction . Does he do it . Does he go off script and say something, embrace people, talk about it . I think pope francis has earned a great reputation for being a champion of the poor, the dispossessed, and the voiceless, and you cant find more dispossessed than voiceless people and the victims of sexual abuse, especially at the hands of the clergy in whose hands they place such faith and trust. So, if the reputation that hes earned is sincere, then i believe he will be inclined and have an obligation to speak up with a most frank and direct way. And for catholics like me, who both celebrate and are proud of pope francis, i hope he does speak up, because i think its appropriate that he does because thats what hes doing. Hes a reformer whos challenging the old notions of what the dogma has been in our church and giving voice to the voiceless. I dont think, though i think hell address this issue in a macro issue. I dont think hes gonna address it in a unique issue with respect to philadelphia. Hes not gonna pick a fight with a more conservative diocese that they have here. And the pope is really speaking to the future of the catholic church. Hes not speaking to the people who are fixed in their views. Theyre not gonna change those views because hes been so outspoken, progressive, and a reformer, his comments will reverberate not only immediate surroundings where he is, but for generations to come. I believe its his obligation, and i think its a demand for those of us who admire and celebrate him that he does do it. Does he talk about those differences that george has pointed out . This week alone, weve talked about annulment, weve talked about abortion. He is in one place. This diocese is in another place. Is it kind of like you just dont talk about it, or will they actually talk about it . To me, he will talk about it. This is a pope thats he doesnt stay on script, okay . Hes gonna say how he feels, whatever the spirit tells him. To me, thats who he is, and thats what hes about, and thats what hes gonna do. Renees absolutely right, but it is, in many ways, its a difference in the background. This is a pastoral man. This is a man who was a parish priest for years, as opposed to john paul and benedict, who were scholar theologians, and they were very careful in what they said and how they spoke. This pope speaks off the cuff, as, you know, renee just said. I do think hes gonna talk about the abuse scandal. There is a rumor that the world meeting of families came to philadelphia because the pope saw that the archdiocese here was decimated by the abuse scandal. But i dont think, as george said, that thats going to be the major focus. We have a refugee crisis that is going on before our very eyes. This pope is intimately involved in that. Thats going to be the focus. I hope the focus also is poverty. We have one of the deepest poverties among urban cities in the country. I know that is a big topic for him, as well. Lets talk about something that touched the archdiocese this week. It came out that if you were applying to a Catholic School these days, you will get something that you have to sign. It says six points essentially. Catholic education is a privilege, not a right. Catholic teaching is paramount to all. And the archbishop here has the final word. Now, they said this had nothing to do with everything that went on at waldron mercy, the firing of an administrator who was in a lesbian marriage. Do we believe that, or do we think that this absolutely was connected to that back and forth . The archdiocese says it wasnt connected. Thats not what im asking. I know, i know. I mean, i think all thinking people would have to make that connection. But who cares . Its irrelevant. The catholic church, the archdiocese has the right to have a code of understanding, because if you go to a Catholic School, as they said in that code of understanding, Catholic School is not just giving you a good moral grounding. Its not just like a Secular School thats teaching you how to live a good life. A Catholic School is geared toward teaching you how to live a catholic life, and so parents have to know, kind of like assumption of the risk parents have to know what theyre getting into when they sign up, when they send their kids to those schools. But was this the right time . Should they have waited a year, let everything out the main line die down . Because people are making this connection at a time when there are a lot of bruised feelings out there. Even though the archdiocese didnt have a hand in it, the archbishop came out and said, well, i kind of agree with what they did. You know, that was my alma mater, and i think its been blown out of proportion, the amount of people who were upset about it. A lot of the people who were upset about it came from outside of the waldron mercy community. The First Amendment supporter in me believes that the religious institution has every right to require and demand that its employees adhere to the dogma of the institution. Having said that, the civil rights supporter in me and the supporter of basic human decency also believes that you cannot fire somebody whos otherwise competent just because of your Sexual Identity or sexual preference. I think here thats the very nature of the tension that pope francis that has been outspoken on the Progressive Side and the conservative church that we have in philadelphia that were wrestling with. Theres definitely a connection to me. The important question is, how are they going to enforce this . Because with all due respect to christine, you know, a significant percentage of the people who sustain the Catholic Schools are not catholic or have any interest ever in being catholic. Theres a place in the Africanamerican Community where you had access to a private education in a safe place. These schools now compete with Charter Schools for their population, and so i think theyve got to be careful about how they implement it, whether its a reaction to waldron or not. If theyre not careful about how they implement it, those folks and those folks send their people, send their children to the School Understanding theyre going to get the catholic doctrine, but theyre not sending them there for a religious purpose. Theyre sending them there for an education purpose. And thats a great point, george. I had jewish students in my classes. My favorite teacher was my jewish algebra teacher. And so youre absolutely right. But i dont think this is a loyalty oath or a loyalty pledge. Its simply saying, listen, were a Catholic School. So dont be surprised when we come out in certain places. Lets quickly talk a little bit about the state budget. We now have schools that are saying were feeling the pinch, were going to reserves, were taking out loans. Quickly, is there any sense that were on the horizon of a budget, or this is still gonna drag for a while . Quickly, no. No . Its gonna drag. Let me be clear. Notforprofits havent just started being hurt. Theyve been hurting for a long time. I have a notforprofit. It is very difficult. Im just blessed to be able to put the finances together. A lot of folks are having to lay off people. You know, a lot of folks are having to close their companies because of that. This is a serious problem. Its very serious. Litigate your republicans. Its not on us. You need to get your governor to get it together. Okay, this will go on for a while. Yes, it will. Interesting piece came out from the dnc trumpeting 35 of our vendors are going to be minorities, and they list this out in this order women, people of color, lgbt community. Bruce crawley, whos a wellknown businessman, said, well, i want to see a breakdown of this. Like, what are we talking about . Is it gonna be a room just full of white women . Yeah, this is a city that has 62 people of color. When you say minority, what is that room going to be like . It seems as though this is a good thing for him to bring up now so that they start to think about that. What can we expect . First of all, the rnc we had the convention here, and we were very diversed. Very diversed. Didnt say, were just gonna do it. Were gonna make sure the minority speaks. We had people coming in as growth, cause i was a part of that. As far as the dnc and stuff, and as far as an africanamerican businesswoman, what is really diversity . Okay, because when i go up against another woman and stuff, how am i gonna fare . Well, there are 93,000 Small Businesses in philadelphia of which 1,500 of them are minority owned and 416 of them are women minority owned businesses, so we can start from that at least, that pool of population. Women own businesses nationally have increased from 2007 to 2009, same with lgbt owned firms. And if you dont support them and if you dont give them a lifeline, if you dont have at least an affirmative goal of having it set aside of at least an aspirational goal of a certain large chunk of that business going to that constituency, then youve missed the mark before you even got on the starting line. Family fight of people saying, susie got more than i did and thats not fair, and rather than getting the credit for it, youve got a fight going on. At the end of the day, the Republican Party sends 1 of their money on an annual basis with minority businesses. The Democrat National community spends 3 of their money with minority business. So this is a fouryear thing were gonna do, and the 35 is gonna be my inside story, actually. The 35 is really irrelevant. Its just a function of the numbers. Its a question of whats its impact upon the companies who get the contracts, and historically its just cash flow. It doesnt create growth. So no matter who gets what, its not like this is a turnaround issue. It doesnt matter. All right. Well, it does matter that we take a commercial break. We will do that, and well come right back to inside story. Inside story is presented by temple university. Temple fuels students with academics and opportunities to take charge. Plugged into the city, powered by the world. Temple. Edu takecharge. Important message for residents age 50 to 85. Write down this number now. 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Now, on one hand, the race for the senate seat in p. A. Seems so far away next november but lets talk primaries a little bit. Katie mcginty was out in pittsburgh over the weekend, over labor day, and picked up a number of endorsements. The mayor of pittsburgh, the Allegheny County executive, i mean, the list is getting longer and longer. Is this adding to the idea that she might, indeed, be steamrolling, that this is not looking good for joe sestak or hes the kind of candidate where it doesnt matter how many names she gets on that list, anything can happen. I think whats important is that it has given Katie Mcginty the momentum that she needs to be a credible candidate. Now the question becomes how much money does that translate into so that she can be able to fund a campaign . What does Governor Wolf do . What does senator casey do . And ultimately whether theres a democratic primary election for president in pennsylvania next year. If Hillary Clinton came in as the singular candidate, i think that works for Katie Mcginty, given her relationship to the clintons, but i think that sestak hes a plotter, so people shouldnt assume hes going to go away. He almost won against toomey a round, so hes going to be in, and hes going to be there, but she does have momentum. He is a fighter. Sestak is a fighter. Hes not going to give up. Katie is going around. People are supporting her. You could tell that people always have issues with sestak because they dont like where hes come from. Im not a democrat so i really dont understand. Is it enough to get her 8 million . Because thats what shes facing if she wins that primary. You know i know cause we have a lot of money for toomey. Im a big senator toomey fan, and i think hes done great things for the commonwealth. I also like Katie Mcginty. Shes just so likeable. I think if it was a headtohead contest between senator toomey and Katie Mcginty, it will be about policy, because it is hard to attack them on yeah, because itll be about policy. Itll be about which world do you agree with toomey or mcginty . Remember in the primary, you were here, you were here, you were here. We were all talking about how great Katie Mcginty performed. You know, she came in fourth, and yet i mean, thats not a great thing. Personality may not make it for you, but shes smart and just a likeable person. Shes smart, but the legislators had a hard time with her in harrisburg, as you know. They really did not like katie. Let me be real clear about that. Ill put that on the table. But does that really matter in a state election . Does that tell us anything about her as a candidate, or is that was just a oneoff in terms of how she dealt with them . I think it matters. All right. And i think the important question is that all of what we said is true and that shes gained the momentum, but she did run fourth, and so the question is can you connect a voter . I think its tough to beat toomey, period. I dont think anybody, really. Toomey has a done good job on both sides. You know, we have to shake our head and hold our head at the same time when we talk about elections in philadelphia. Listen to these numbers. 28 million was spent this last mayoral primary, the most ever, and only about a little bit over a quarter of democrats who could have voted came out 234,000 out of 806,000. And now it feels as though for months, nobody has really talked about this election. Now, it often is this case in the city. Does this feel different to you, though, the fact that it just really feels its after labor day. We havent really heard anything. It almost feels as if the election was the primary. I mean, we talk about this all the time. The democratic primary is pretty much it. And Melissa Bailey murray bailey. Murray bailey is campaigning. Shes, you know, a presence out there, and shes a likeable personality, but i mean, even with 25 of the democrats coming out, i dont think anybody here expects to see a republic mayor in november. Ive spent the last 40 years involved in politics in the city of philadelphia. Wow. And i think the question for me im 32. [ laughter ] what does our generation of leaders have to show for the service that we provided . When you get the turnout that you get whether its a democratic city or not, were talking about the turnout in the democratic primary. Were not talking about the turnout in the general election, and i think even the people who vote vote out of a sense of obligation, not because they think it makes any difference. There is a frustration with politics and politicians in general in this country. In fact, Melissa Murray bailey it was brought to light that she had not voted in three out of the last six possible elections, and when asked about that, she said, you know, like a lot of people, i just felt that my vote didnt matter, so i didnt do it. And in part, thats why im running, because i want to change that feeling. Does that, for a candidate, does that is that a good turn of p. R. For her to explain that, or does that really hurt her with the public . I knew you were coming here. Well, because you do p. R. , does it hurt her when people say youre running, but you didnt even bother three out of a possible six times over the last three years to go vote . Of course, people are gonna question it just like we are now. People are gonna talk about it, and i think, you know, she was being well, she had to be honest because its public information, but i also think that its important for her to be out there and do the best she can to bring in other people like george is saying, i havent been doing it 40 years, im not that old. But the bottom line is that i think its so important to reach out to these young folks to really get them to come out and vote. From a p. R. Spin standpoint, if im the Republican Party oh, yeah. I would say that the democrat miss bailey has a poor voting record, but the republican miss bailey has a perfect voting record. [ laughter ] maybe they should hire you on this, ajay. Also, they should say that theres a commissioner that has an even worse voting record. Let me put that out there. Thats all im saying. You can use that as a spin, too, thank you very much. Very quickly, chaka fattah this week came out and hes got a web site you can give money for the next congressional election, but you can also give money towards a defense fund. This is not new. Plenty of people have done it, but it still raises questions when somebody does it. Is it seemly . Is it the right thing to do . How should we look at this . Vince fumo did it. I mean, everybody who goes through this process its an expensive process. Not very many people have a million or so dollars laying around that they can go out and afford and private individuals do it. They go to friends, i mean so i think it is a difficult circumstance, but its the norm in these circumstances. Its just the optics are a little weird, you know . Go ahead. Either contribute to my campaign or contribute to keep me out of jail its just i mean, the optics of it i agree with what george is saying. Its done, but it just doesnt look right. All right, well, we will take a short break and come back to our insiders inside stories of the week. Lets clear the air. There are no limits on the amount of Carbon Pollution power plants can. Release. And our senator, pat toomey, led the fight to keep it that way. Carbon pollution, a major cause of climate change, leads to more asthma attacks in children. Over a million pennsylvanians now suffer from asthma. And senator toomey took over a Million Dollars from polluters. Tell senator toomey its time to clear the air. Vote for the clean power plan. Inside story is presented by temple university. Temple fuels students with academics and opportunities to take charge. Plugged into the city, powered by the world. Temple. Edu takecharge. Welcome back. Lets get our insiders inside stories of the week. George, well start with you. We talked about diversity in the Democratic National convention. Weve been doing affirmativeaction programs since 1980 in philadelphia with lu blackwell and parren mitchell, United States congress. And after 40 years, africanamerican women and other minority businesses havent grown to scale. Either theres something wrong with the businesspeople, or theres something wrong with the program. All right. Christine . Tam, a picture speaks more than 1,000 words or 10,000 press conference. The image of a little 3yearold syrian boy who drowned on the beaches of turkey went viral. And it reminds us that we cannot look away. We looked away in rwanda. We looked away in bosnia. We have looked away consistently. There is a genocide going on. There are refugees that need homes. Thank goodness secretary kerry said that we are going to be accepting 10,000 more refugees. Its not enough. We need to look directly at whats happening. Aylan is his name, and he made me cry. Yep. Lets go ajay. Www. Thephiladelphiacitizen. Org, a new solutionsbased Journalism Project which we just recently launched with our panelist larry platt as our editor and jeremy nowak as the chairman and connor barwin, the great linebacker for the philadelphia eagles, as one of our reporters. Go check it out before you watch connor play on monday night. All right. Mine is about the pope is coming, as well, i know, but people are concerned about their healthcare, with him being directly across the street from lankenau hospital. I want to give kudos to main line health, their c. E. O. , jack lynch, who is really coming together with all entities to make sure that people will have their healthcare, no matter what it might be. So, if you have to go to the hospital, go there. All right. Thats it for inside story. Thank you for joining us. Well see you back here next week. Im tamala edwards. Have a great sunday. Im in an nun nydia han along with eva pilgrim. Coming up a sixers legend has passed away. A road is closed after a water main break last night. The countdown to the crown were live in Atlantic City where a new miss america will be named in just a matter of hours. Those stories and the accuweather forecast next on action news. Good afternoon, it is sunday, september 13, rhyme nydia han along with eva pilgrim. Heres some of the stories were following on action news. A investigation is underway in bucks county after a crash left a teenager dead and sent three others to the hospital. Friends and family members are remembering a south jersey