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Kevin san diego is charged a timeout. You can see the helmet to hip right there. Rich and Josh Ferguson wasnt fooling around. He news exactly what he was trying to do, split the two defenders. You can see moving. That is a good sign. Kevin at every nfl stadium, there are 25 medical personnel on the sideline, ar assigned for situations like this. The protocol used. But with both bercovicis participating, it has been immensely increased. Rich number one, when a potential concussion is identified, the player is being that allows the medical staff to get in there, visit with the player and do the evaluation without a number of other players coming around and checking on their teammate. You look at the madden rule. If there is suspicion of a concussion, the player will be escorted to the locker room. They have done a good job of zeroing in and doing what they can to promote player safety. We have talked about the number of rule changes. 42 rule changes in the last 10 ye safety. A big part of it is taking the head out of the game, the hits on defenseless players. Kevin now you take flowers out of the game. They bring in craig meager to join the five in the secondary for san diego. Rich i have lost big playoff games to adam vinatieri. I know what he is about. If you are the charges, and you you are rolling the dice. They have got to find a way to get to luck. Kevin second down and one. Luck fires it inside, and there goes t. Y. Hilton. Its a foot race, and there he goes touchdown 63 yards and the lead rich and they have got to go for two now. They are up by four. They are not afraid to go back to a play. On third down, they ran this same concept with t. Y. Hilton on the inside route. Look at his speed and the ability to pull away from the kevin mccoyle could not make the tackle. They are going for two. What a play for t. Y. Hilton. His first touchdown reception of the season. Rich against, they went after jason verrett. You mentioned he has been banged up here in the Fourth Quarter. The suddenness of t. Y. Hilton on the inside cut has been a real problem for the chargers secondary. Kickoff gore is in, and they are trying for two. And that is incomplete. Verrett was watching him. Rich you cant fault them for trying to go after verrett with hilton. Kevin how big is the missed and you can do the math. Rich you have to think of players and not plays. The guy you want to go to is t. Y. Hilton. He splits the two defenders in the middle of the field. This is a very difficult safety for the safety. With that much space between yourself and t. Y. Hilton. That is too much to ask from phillips. Kevin dexter mccoyle in the soaked area was the one trying to make the tackle and could not. But the missed extra point by san diego is big now. Tonight on cbs begins with the season premier of 60 minutes and a report on the war against isis. Followed by the premier of ncis los angeles and the new his rich if you are Philip Rivers, he has 1 17 with a couple of timeouts as well. He has been in this situation before and delivered. Plenty of time for rivers. Kevin pat mcafee to kick it off. And mccluster lets it sail overhead. To the 25 for san diego. The mied extra point by josh lambo. Rich it was the effort antonio yormente off the edge. That is the difference. Look at the effort from the veteran. Talk about a critical play in the kicking game. That is the difference. We are talking about a threepoint game here. San diego would only need a field goal to tie it, and now they have to score a touchdown. Kevin chargers missing a top of weapons. Gates is out, and keenan allen is out with a torn a. C. L. First and 10. Tyrell williams runs out of bounds by davis. He takes it up to the 29yardline of san diego after a gain of four. You have to ask yourself where is Travis Benjamin . You have to keep an eye on him. You cant w the secondary. Kevin second down and six. Referee false start, offense, number 86. Fiveyard penalty. Second down. Kevin the rookie tight end, rich you see chuck pagano right there signaling to the defense watch the screen in this situation. They have done a nice job with the screen with melvin gordon. Kevin second down and 11. Rivers, congested pocket. There is henery, knocked away fumble mike adams with the jam. And and he punched the ball away, forcing the turnover. Rich there is hunter henery, the rookie. Runs a nice route. He does everything right, creates separation. But he doesnt do a good enough watch the right arm of gathers as he comes in there and punches it out. Henery never feels him from behind. Traffic terrific effort. Mike adams, the veteran, right there for the easy scoop. You work on ball extraction every day in practice as a defensive player. Kevin two timeouts for san diego. Two turnovers each. It is gore, who the 28 by emmanuel. And the game down to the gain down to about the 43. Rich you feel sick if you are a young player. Kevin there is gates. Rich you just can never relax, never let up. We talked about the importance of ball security. That was a terrific effort, though, on the part of gathers. He gets beat, he rallies back to the football and is able to it out. Kevin they just used their second timeout. One remaining and 58 second to go. Gore remains. Three tight end are out there. Its frank gore. Mebane and others make the stop. Twoyard began to the 40. He was the mchale award winner at arkansas. The mackey award winner at arkansas. Actually, the chargers came into the game three at plus three. The colts have turned it over twice. And playing a Desperate Team live the colts, 02 coming in. The turnovers are critical. The missed extra point, which was significant in the game. And the effort by Antonio Cromartie to get a piece of the ball on the extra point, that was huge. Kevin false start. Rich young players. Referee false start, offense, number 84. Fiveyard still third down. Kickoff jack doyle has had a lot of idealo thrown his way. The colts are 02 for a third consecutive season. They were 02 last year and eventually came to within one game of the division title. In 2014 they began 02, one five straight and made the a. F. C. Championship game. They come in 0250 today. Gore, and he is trying to keep it alive. Stopped at the line and no gain on the play. Mebane. The chargers lost a timeout because flowers was injured. Inside two minutes, a timeout is automatically assessed for an injury. Rich if you are the colts, you run this thing down and burn one of your timeouts. A terrific effort there. A couple of huge plays by andrew luck to t. Y. Hilton. The third down conversion and of course the touchdown. It has been tough for luck, but he hung in there. 2437, 331 yards, and the touchdown, the game h. I. V. Quiet early, but he finishes with eight catches for 174, including that 63yard touchdown. He was a real differencemaker in that matchup. He won the battle in the matchup against jason verrett. Kevin there are no deep guys back for san diego. The long snapper, matt overton will be sending it to pat mcafee. Rich the only thing they can do here is block it and it. This ball is coming out of the hands of mcafee quickly. Kickoff and he pitches it. The clock will tick all the way to zero. The chargers had a lead in kansas city in week one, and they lost in overtime to the chiefs. They had a lead here in the fourth, and they lose it to andrew luck, although now they are discussing on the field if there was i see a ron torbert, our referee. Lets pause a second and put on the brakes. Four lead changes in this second half, and the 63yard touchdown completion to hill hilton may prove to be the gamewinner for indianapolis as they notch their first win. But the conversation continues. Rich it almost looks as if the officials arent on the same page. The line judge talking to the referee about the situation of the game. Kevin we have seven guys on this crew who have worked the super bowl before. An experienced crew. Referee the ball was illegally touched by the kicking team during the down in which the clock went to zero. By ryu, we extend the quarter for one untimed down. San diego ball, first down. Kevin so san diego will have it for an untimed down. Rich now you have guys that were half way to the locker room. You have to get them back on the field. And you give Philip Rivers and this san diego offense one more shot. Maybe even more, because a defensive penalty, the game cant end on a defensive penalty. We did a game last week where the raiders try tohr ball to riley cooper and run around and lateral. Referee 34, 83, and 84 are ineligible. Rich i think the play here is throw the ball to one of your bigger receivers, like tyrell williams, maybe he gets the ball around midfield and take another shot. Kevin seven are back for the colts. With it, up top. Kevin pass up to date neither, caught by benjamin. From behind. Game is over. Colts have avoided an 03 start and win it, coming from behind in dramatic fashion with a andrew luck to t. Y. Hilton 63yard touchdown pass. Both teams at 12. Four second half lead changes. Tonight on cbs, 60 minutes, followed by ncis l. A. And macg iver. Second time this season the chargers have blown a Fourth Quarter lead. For rich gannon non, kevin harlan, so long from indianapolis. You have been watching the nfl on cbs. Marco. polo marco. polo marco. polo marco. s . . Polo marco. polo scusa . Ma io sono marco polo, ma. Marco. playing marco polo with marco polo . Surprising. Ragazzini, io sono marco polo. S . , sono qui. Whats not surprising . 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For god sakes, isis dont work that way. If youre looking at it and want to play the game by your rules and the enemy doesnt, were not going to win this. Within the last two years they delivered 20 Nuclear Weapons. To russia. Line missions not seen since the cold war. 80 cruise missiles in your face. A lot of fire power. Is that your message. Thats a message. It was an unmistakable warning but theres real concern in the u. S. Military that rush you might be willing to use a Nuclear Weapon. I think to them the use of Nuclear Weapons is not unthinkable. How did 271 pieces by Pablo Picasso worth close to 100 million end up in his handy mans garage for 40 years. Thats what Pablo Picassos son is trying to find out. I quickly understood that they missed did you know immediately that they were real . Yes. Tonight, the story of the missing picasso and the only two characters and we mean kroft im steve kroft. Stahl im leslie stahl. Whitaker im bill whitaker. Martin im david martin. 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The king, abdullah the second bin al hussein, is holding the front and sheltering millions of refugees despite his struggling economy, no oil wealth and precious little water. If the king can keep his balance, jordan may prove that an arab state can remain peaceful, tolerant and modern. The arsonists torching the middle east hope to see him fail. This is not war. These are Jordanian Forces sharpening their edge on a make believe town. Some of their weapons are antique attack helicopters designed originally for vietnam, surplus armored cars that they found online. Jordan cant afford the arsenals advantage. And, to hone it, they switched in training from blanks to live ammunition. This is the soldier who ordered the switch. Hes the former head of special forces. He is abdullah the second, the king of jordan. Everyone uses blanks, makes no sense, he yelled. Theres no sense in anything less than lethal because no king of jordan has ever known peace. This is the mosque that you built in honor of your father. Abdullah yeah. Pelley abdullah became king in 1999 on the death of his father, who ruled 47 years. We met the 54yearold at his palace in amman. He knows isis by its arabic but whatever you call it, he says the west doesnt realize its in a third world war. Abdullah i think this is the challenge that weve had over the past several years where people look at, you know, is it iraq this year or syria next year . Well, what about libya . What about boko haram or shabaab in africa . We have to look at it from a global perspective. Pelley all of these things need to be attacked at the same time. You cant concentrate on syria one year and then deal with boko haram in another . Abdullah well, theri certain military successes in syria and iraq against daesh. The leadership, theyre telling their fighters either dont come to syria or iraq, or moving their command structure to libya. And so, are we going to wait to get our act together to concentrate on libya . And then, you know, do we wait a year or two to start helping the africans deal with boko haram or shabaab . So, weve got to get ahead of the curve because theyre reacting much quicker than we are. Pelley the american strategy in syria and iraq, as you know, fight the battle. That has not worked. How do you move forward from here . Abdullah i think the problem with the west is they see a border between syria and iraq, daesh does not. And this has been a frustration, i think, for a few of us in this area with our western coalition partners, for several years. You know, the lawyers get into the act and say, but theres an international border. And we say, for gods sake, isis doesnt work that way. So, if youre looking at it and want to play the game by your rules knowing that the enemy this. Pelley jordan says it has flown more than 1,000 missions against isis in syria in coordination with the u. S. Last year, pilot Muath Kasasbeh was captured. Isis put him in a cage and made a video as they burned him alive. At the time, abdullah had two terrorists in jail. Within hours of that video, you what does that tell us about you . Abdullah i think they had to understand that there was no messing around with jordan. And a lot of those that were involved in killing muath in that video and those that were responsible for detaining him and processing him through his captivity have been taken down since. Pelley hes taking down each and every one in the video. Youre going to hunt them down. Abdullah they have been hunted down, quite a lot of them. And those that are still involved, if it takes us another 50 years, we will get them. Pelley those are the rules of his neighborhood. Abdullah reigns over a desert the size of indiana. To his west, the Israeli Palestinian conflict; north, syrias civil war; east, isis in iraq; and south, severe fundamentalist islam in saudi arabia. It is a collision of tribes and borders drawn with a british t square and crossed by american tanks. In 1990, king hussein warned george bush to stay out of iraq. In 2003, the son of the king gave the son of the president the same advice. It seems like american president s think they know this region better than you. Abdullah they seem to understand us better than we know each other. And, as a result, you can see the train on the track coming to the. To the wreck. And we do advise that if we keep going that way, its pretty obvious to some of us whats going to happen. And, you know, you can only express your views as much and as emotionally as you can. Pelley youre frustrated by that. Abdullah the ethnic makeup of the region is pretty glaringly obvious for us that live in the region, that we supposedly know ourselves. I mean, syria, when it started, everybody was saying six months. And i said, look, you know, if youre saying six months, im saying six years. Were in for the long haul not only in syria and iraq, but for the whole region and for the world, unfortunately. Pelley but isnt there going to have to be a western army of some kind on the ground in order to take the territory . Abdullah enablers. Enablers. Because, at the end of the day, you cant have western troops walking down the street of syrian cities and villages. At the end of the day, you need that. Pelley we were on the Syrian Border in 2014 as the kings soldiers reached out to refugees. He welcomed them even though there were already more than two million Palestinian Refugees whove been in jordan for decades. Why did you allow nearly a million and a half syrians to come into your country . Abdullah well, we really didnt have much choice. Across the border, being shot by the syrian regime. And, you know, jordan has always been a place that opens it arms to refugees from many countries, unfortunately. But then, it got to a point where, you know, were now at 20 increase of our population. And the huge burden on our country, were in dire straits. Pelley most of them are in jordanian towns, looking for work, driving up rents. Jordans schools. Whats the breaking point for your people . Abdullah about a year or two years ago. Unemployment is skyrocketing. Our Health Sector is saturated. Our schools are really going through difficult times. Its extremely, extremely difficult. And jordanians are. Just have had it up to here. I mean, we just cant take it anymore. Pelley theyve had it with unemployment, near 15 . And thats the official rate; there are more than nine Million People living in jordan, and half are under the age of 24. Abdullah if anything keeps me up at night, its giving the Younger Generation an opportunity at life. And on the flip side of that, if radicalization is going to imbed itself anywhere in the world or in this region, its going to be disenfranchised youth. And so, if young people in this country are not going to have an opportunity because of the thats my concern. Pelley he showed us his concern at a multimilliondollar campus built to be his new military headquarters. The king who drives his own car, by the way took this campus away from the generals and converted it to a citadel of software, a Business Park for technology. Imagine these logos on the pentagon. Abdullah i believe the world has a stake in the jordanian economy because we are the Success Story of stability in if there wasnt a jordan, we would have had to have created one. So, i think the story of jordan is bigger than the borders of our country. Pelley his borders began in 1916, when abdullahs great great grandfather led the revolt depicted in the movie lawrence of arabia. The king traces his bloodline directly to the prophet muhammad. Islamic extremists, he told us, are outlaws that the faith has dealt with before. When you do interviews in arabic on this subject, you call isis the khawarij. What does that mean . Abdullah well, in islam, us traditional muslims, it is not our right to call people heretics. God decides at the end of the day. The jihadists take it upon themselves to call the rest of us heretics, us muslims. Youre in a completely different and so, in our traditional history, the outlaws, the khawarij, appeared, really, in the early part of islam. Pelley they were a sect that splintered from islam in the first century. Abdullah yes. And they did horrible atrocities. And as a result, the muslim communities rose up against them and exterminated them. So, they appear throughout history from time to time, and they always meet their end. But as extre of our religions, you know, they appear from time to time. Pelley well, in the united states, many people ask, what has gone wrong with islam . Abdullah well, so, if you look at the spectrum and understand that 90 of us are traditionalists and have an affinity for christianity, judaism i mean, were all the three monotheistic religions, us being the younger one and that our faith decrees the understanding of judaism and christianity, then we understand where we all are. Takfiri jihadists, thats where the fight is. And they represent probably 2 of sunni islam. Thats where the problem is. And if were being pushed into the corner through islamophobia, thats where the danger is, where we, as allies, are not understood. Pelley your concern is that, if islamophobia takes even greater hold, muslims who are not radicalized today will be forced into that corner. Abdullah well, theyre going to feel isolated. Theyre going to feel marginalized. Theyre going to feel that, victimized. Which is exactly what isis, al qaeda want. I mean, you know, why fly two aircrafts into the twin towers in new york . Its to create hatred from the west towards islam so that you can panic the majority of muslims to feel that theyre victimized and push them over into the extremist camp. Pelley pressure on the king is rising. explosion that explosion, an isis bomb in june, killed seven jordanian abdullah closed the Syrian Border. In 2014, it looked like this. Now, with the crossing closed, only the long arm of the u. N. Is lifting aid over the line to nearly 100,000 trapped refugees. Jordan says that isis has infiltrated the camp on the syrian side. But even so, the kingdom has just agreed to set up food and water distribution for those who are stranded. Town with his former unit, the king whispered to us, god, i miss my old job. The crown of a prince was lighter when he only had to deal with ancient armor. Abdullah speaking in arabic pelley he told the men, our equipment and vehicles are lacking. We will develop them as soon as we can. Long live the king they yelled. Long live the king. You wonder how the kingdom has lived so long with peril on every side, but maybe thats the key. Treacherous borders are like live rounds in training, they raise the stakes. Jordan endures because the price of failure is much too high. , no two whale flukes are the same. Because your needs are unique, pacific life has been delivering flexible retirement and Life Insurance solutions for more than 145 years. You reach your financial goals. Little dakotas nose was quivering in fear. Because it knew an ordinary tissue was near. The fiery tissue left her nose sore and red. So dad slayed the problem with puffs plus lotion, instead. Puffs have pillowy softness for dakotas tender nose. With lotion to comfort and soothe when she blows. Dont get burned by ordinary tissues. Martin president obamas Nuclear Strategy states that while the threat of allout nuclear war is remote, the risk of a Nuclear Attack somewhere in when that was written three years ago, the risk came from a rogue nation like north korea. Back then, the u. S. And russia were said to be partners, but that was before russia invaded crimea, using military force to change the borders of europe. And before its president , Vladimir Putin, and his generals began talking about Nuclear Weapons. For generations, Nuclear Weapons have been seen as a last resort to be used only in extreme circumstances. But in this new cold war use of a Nuclear Weapon is not as unlikely to occur as you might think. Airlaunched cruise missiles being loaded onto a long range b52 bomber at Barksdale Air force base in louisiana. When you see it close up, its. Its even bigger than you think it is. Gen. Richard clark it is an impressive machine. About 185,000 pounds empty. But its built to carry weapons and gas. Martin Major General Richard Clark commands all of this and these are the weapons . Clark yes, sir. These are air launch cruise missiles. It is the primary Nuclear Weapon for the b52. Martin clark told us these are training missiles, so they are not armed with nuclear warheads. A b52 can carry 20 cruise missiles, six under each wing and eight in the bomb bay. Clark so, this is the rotary launcher, and it holds eight airlaunched cruise missiles within the internal bomb bay of the b52. Its a tight fit, but the way it works is, the launcher rotates allows the weapon to release and send it on its way. Martin it looks like the chamber of a revolver. Clark same idea, just much bigger bullets. Martin as the most visible arm of the American Nuclear arsenal, these bombers are meant to send a message to an international audience. Clark we can put this aircraft anywhere we want, anytime we want, and both our allies and our adversaries take note. Martin this is basically a and tell because it will deliver. Martin within the last two years, b52s have begun sending that message directly to russia, flying missions not seen since the cold war. It started after vladamir putin changed history by invading an independent country, ukraine, and seizing its republic of crimea. Gen. Phillip breedlove the fact that military force would be used to change an internationallyrecognized border in the central part of europe, that was new. Martin now retired, general Phillip Breedlove was the supreme allied commander in europe when russia took over crimea. The invasion was carried out by socalled little green men russian soldiers wearing uniforms without insignia but looming in the background were Nuclear Weapons. Was there ever any indication that Vladimir Putin was prepared to use his Nuclear Weapons in any way . Breedlove Vladimir Putin said himself that he would status of his nuclear force. Martin he had considered it . Breedlove he said it himself. Martin putin said he had given an order to his military to be prepared to increase the readiness of his Nuclear Forces if the u. S. And nato tried to block his takeover of crimea. We were not looking for a fight, putin said in this interview, but we were ready for the worstcase scenario. Breedlove they see Nuclear Weapons as a normal extension of a conventional conflict. Martin so, to them, nuclear war is not unthinkable . Breedlove i think, to them, the use of Nuclear Weapons is not unthinkable. Martin it says so in their military doctrine, signed by putin in 2014. Russia shall reserve the right to use Nuclear Weapons in the event of aggression, when the very existence of the state is in jeopardy. Putin has personally directed nuclear exercises which have increased in both size and frequency, according to breedlove. Your attention. Martin more aggressive . Breedlove clearly. Martin and the u. S. Responded with more aggressive exercises of its own. One year after crimea, four b 52s flew up over the north pole and north sea on an exercise called polar growl. The b52s were unarmed, but that little fin on the side of the fuselage identified them as capable of carrying Nuclear Weapons. Hans kristensen what i plottehe for these planes. Martin hans kristensen, director of the Nuclear Information project at the federation of american scientists, used google earth to show us the message that sent russia. Kristensen each bomber can carry 20 cruise missiles, a maximum of them. So, were talking about potentially 80 cruise missiles that could have been launched against targets inside russia at this particular time. Martin using the cruise missiles range of 1,500 miles, kristensen plotted his own hypothetical lines showing how far they could potentially reach and the end points of those red lines . Kristensen yes, each of them go to a facility in russia that could be a potential target for Nuclear Weapons. Martin the russians would look at that and see it as a dry run for an attack on targets inside russia. Clark i guess they can draw the conclusions that they need to draw. Martin 80 cruise missiles in your face. Clark its a lot of firepower. Martin was that the message . Clark thats a message, for sure. Martin the last time American Nuclear bombers flew a mission like that was during the cold war. Clark this was a significant exercise for us. Were training the way we might have to fight. Martin it was an unmistakable warning, but rear admiral steve parode says theres no indication the Russian Military has changed its thinking about Nuclear Weapons. Parode disturbingly, in recent years, there have been specific doctrinal and public willingness to employ Nuclear Weapons in the course of conflict. Martin as director of intelligence for the u. S. Strategic command, parode spent the last two years gauging russias nuclear intentions. Parode i think that they feel that fundamentally the west is sociologically weaker, and if they were to use a Nuclear Weapon in the course of a conflict between, say, nato and russia, they might be able to shock the western powers into deescalating, into freezing the conflict, into calling a cease martin so, they have a belief that theyre just tougher than us . Parode oh, thats definitely true. Martin and if they have to use Nuclear Weapons, we cant. We cant take it . Parode i think that some people might think that. Martin parode is not talking about the armageddon of an all out nuclear war which neither side could win, but the limited use of a few Nuclear Weapons which could convince the u. S. To back down. So, how would they shock us into parode they could strike a european target with a Nuclear Weapon, maybe an airfield they thought was vital to conflict between nato and russia. David shlapak were looking at hhour. Were looking at the. The moment before the conflict starts. Martin David Shlapak of the Rand Corporation directed a series of war games commissioned by the pentagon in which russia invaded the Baltic States of estonia and latvia, two of the newer members of nato and, because of their location on the russian border, two of the most vulnerab shlapak when the fight starts, the russians have about 400 to 500 tanks on the battlefield. Nato has none. Martin the red chips represent Russian Forces, the blue and white are nato. The relative size of the stacks kind of says it all. Shlapak it does, it does. This is not a happy picture for nato. Martin as the scenario unfolds, Russian Forces in red are storming the capitals of estonia and latvia. Shlapak they can get there between a day and a half and two latvia, the u. S. And nato would have to conduct a major buildup of military forces to drive the russians out. Shlapak one of the things you would expect russia to do would be to begin rattling the Nuclear Saber very aggressively, to say, were here, this is our territory now, and if you come and try to take it away from us, we will escalate. Martin escalate. Use Nuclear Weapons . Shlapak use Nuclear Weapons. Martin russia has more than 1,000 shortrange Nuclear Weapons while the u. S. Has less than 200 at air bases in europ kristensen theres one in germany. Martin the locations of american Nuclear Weapons are officially secret, but heres what they look like. Hans kristensen says he discovered this photo on a u. S. Air force website showing the inside of a shelter where Nuclear Bombs would be loaded aboard american and nato jet fighters. Kristensen each vault can have up to four Nuclear Bombs. They hang right next to each other. It can. It sinks into the ground with the weapons, levels martin and just out of a doomsday movie, the Nuclear Weapon rises out of the floor. Kristensen right. Martin the bomb is called the b61, and its being upgraded by adding a new set of tail fins that give it greater accuracy. That would allow the b61 to destroy its target using a loweryield Nuclear Weapon, which would decrease the number of civilian casualties. The airlaunched cruise missile, says Major General clark, can also be turned into a lowyield Nuclear Weapon. Clark there is a variable yield option on this weapon, so we can change that yield within the weapon. Martin you can dial in a yield . Clark thats what we call it, actually, dial a yield. Martin does that make a Nuclear Weapon easier to use . Breedlove we do not plan to go there. We do not want to go there. Martin but if you have this option which allows you to keep civilian casualties to a minimum and youre really up against it, breedlove i dont think that any decision to ever use a Nuclear Weapon could be categorized as easy. Martin less difficult . Breedlove less difficult. We could say that. Martin russia is also developing lowyield weapons which this declassified c. I. A. Document says could lower the threshold for first use of Nuclear Weapons. The development of low yield warheads that could be used on highprecision weapon systems would be consistent with russias increasing reliance on Nuclear Weapons. But increasing reliance on Nuclear Weapons, says rear admiral parode, doesnt mean russia is eager to use them. Parode i dont perceive that they are. Have become madmen with their fingers on the button. But i do believe they are more interested in considering how Nuclear Weapons could be used in conflict to either close a gap or to sustain the opportunity for victory. Martin so, whats the scenario . Seriously consider the use of Nuclear Weapons . Parode that is probably the greatest question im trying to answer today for admiral haney. Martin thats admiral cecil haney, head of the u. S. Strategic command, the man who would carry out a president ial order to launch a Nuclear Weapon. Haney thank you. I appreciate the update. Martin lowkey and cerebral, haney commands not only this countrys Nuclear Forces but its Cyber Weapons and space satellites, as well. Is it riskier today . Haney well, i think today were at a time and ac dont think weve been to before. Martin it is haneys job to convince Vladimir Putin that resorting to Nuclear Weapons would be the worst mistake he could possibly make. When you look at what would work to deter russia, do you have to get inside putins head . Haney you have to have a deep, deep, deep understanding of any adversary you want to describe him psychologically . Haney well, one, i would say im not a psychologist, but i would just say he is clearly an individual that is an opportunist. Martin does it concern you that an opportunist has a Nuclear Arsenal . Haney it concerns me that russia has a lot of Nuclear Weapons. 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