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Historic rooms, churches and monuments from crumbling to dust. But now, some of this most treasured and endangered landmarks are being saved not by a government but by a more respected institution the fashion business. What is possible for us to do for the country, we need to do now. When Pope Benedict xvi came to the familia he consecrated the church as a basilica. Not since 1883 when it was first envisioned by antoni gaudi had it been seen in all of its glory. He wanted to write the whole of the history in the catholic faith in one building. I mean, how crazy and how that idea is . Cbs money watch pup date brought to you by glor good evening. Apple and f. B. I. Take their encryption battle to congress on tuesday. A new push today for f. A. A. To set limits on how Cramped Airline Seats can be. And Warren Buffett said this weekend berkshirehathaway added 15. 4 billion to its net worth im jeff glor, cbs news. There is a dangerousinstinct that lives within you. You like chaos. And in these times, we need that. We need you to rush in, when everyone else is running away. Introducing the jeep renegade, pelley good evening, and welcome to 60 minutes presents. Im scott pelley. Well explore three memorable buildings, where architecture is honored and history is kept alive. Were going to begin in washington with a museum that has yet to open its doors. 400 years have passed since americas original sin, and still, riots are ignited in the friction between race and justice. As this debate continues, the smithsonian is completing a monumental project, the 500 Million National museum of African American history and culture. The idea was authorized by an act of congress, which called it a tribute to the negros contribution to the achievements of america. The words are jarring because the act was written in 1929. As we first told you last spring, building this museum has been a long struggle, just like beside the monument to washington, a slaveholding president , the museum is breaking free of the ground on the malls last five acres. Eight decades after congress framed a museum on paper, and then failed to fund it, the dream is being written, this time in steel and stone ten floors five above ground, five below; its complexion, rendered in shades of bronze, a building of color against historys white marble. Now. Its a big job. Lonnie bunch well, as i tell people, at 8 00 in the morning, i have the best job in america, and at 2 00 in the morning, its the dumbest thing ive ever done in my life. This is a Romare Bearden from the 1950s. Pelley sleepless nights are all in a days work for the lonnie bunch, a scholar of the 19th century. Bunch clearly, this is. Ought to be one of those moments where people are going to sort of reflect, pause. What does it mean in terms of Development Opportunities . Pelley in 2003, president bush signed the law creating the museum. Congress put up 250 million, and bunch has raised most of another 270 million. Bunch i knew that this is where this museum would have to be, that this is americas front lawn, and this is the place where people come to learn what it means to be an american, and this museum needs to be there. Pelley so, were on the ground floor. This is where the visitors will come in. This will be their First Experience in the museum. So, whats going to be here . Bunch they will walk in either from the mall or from constitution ave, and they will run into amazing pieces of africanamerican art. Pelley when all of this is finally complete, what will america have . Bunch america will have a place that allows them to remember to remember how much we as a country have been american experience. Theyll have a place that they can call home, but theyll also have a place that will make them change. Pelley but even this place is only space until you fill it. Oh, my goodness. Now, did somebody already look at some of these things for you . No. No . pelley seven years ago, the smithsonian began rummaging the attics and basements of america. This may have marked a milestone in his life. And what we dont know is what that was. But at least it gives me something i can investigate. Pelley 3,000 people brought their Family History to 16 smithsonian events across the country. Mary elliott and this is the early free black family based out of baltimore . Yes. Pelley it sounds like antiques roadshow. Nancy bercaw it is like antiques roadshow. Pelley mary elliott and nancy bercaw are curators. Elliott we have experts from across the museum field. Experts in conservation. Experts who understand about paper, about metals, about you name it fabrics, textiles. Objects for the public. The coating on this is in pretty good condition. Some of that looks like its dried out a little bit. And dont put it near the air conditioning unit because that will dry it out too much. Pelley how do you convince someone to give up a priceless family heirloom . Bercaw do you know what . Our museum pitches itself. All we have to do is tell the absolute honest truth. People have been waiting for us. People in america have been waiting for this moment. And so, literally, they just hand us things. Elliot and were very excited like you are. Pelley thousands of relics were examined, but only 25 will be in the collection. This is one of them. Renee anderson this was actually a connection we made with the family. Mr. Jesse burke was an enslaved man, and he was charged with playing this violin and entertaining the slave holder and his guest. Pelley this is the smithsonians warehouse in being written. And these are a few of the lines. Received by grigsby e. Thomas, the sum of 350 in full payment for a negro boy by the name of jim, about ten years old, this 31st day of december, 1835. Jim would have been familiar with these shackles dating before 1860, bondage that might have been broken if the keeper of this bible had succeeded in his bloody rebellion. Nat turner had said that god commanded him to break the chains. His bible was taken away before his execution. Paul gardullo is a leader of the curating team. Paul gardullo i think many of us who know the story of slavery know about nat turner; know about nat turner from the perspective of perhaps a freedom fighter, perhaps a murderer. Well, we know this is a we know this is a person who can read, and when you begin with that, and those ideas, suddenly, the person of nat turner and your understandings of nat turner take on a whole new light. And i look to do that again and again, ways that we can see wellworn stories, stories we think we know, in a new light. Pelley you may think you know the story of a boy murdered for whistling at a white woman, until you are confronted with his casket. Bunch the story of emmett till is a crucially important story in terms of what it tells us, both about sort of reinvigorating the civil rights movement, but also its a story of his mother, mamie mobley, who was really one of the most powerful people, who said that her sons murder should not be in vain, that it should help to transform america. Pelley no one was punished his body was exhumed in a later investigation, and the original casket was neglected. Bunch but then the question was would we ever display it . Should we ever display it . And i wrestled a lot with it, but then i realized i kept hearing mamie mobley in my head. And she said, i opened this casket to change the world, to make the world confront the dangers, the power, the ugliness of race in america. Pelley a lot of the things that you intend to put on display are going to be hard to look at. Bunch what im trying to do is find the right tension between moments of sadness and moments of resiliency. Pelley one resilient moment came out of the blue. Air force captain matt quy and his wife tina rebuilt an old crop duster, and in curiosity, they sent the serial number to an air force historian. Matt quy and he said, are you sitting down . You. Pelley turned out, in 1944, the stearman trained americas first black squadrons, the tuskegee airmen, who flew to fame in world war ii. Tina quy i had never really known much about the tuskegee airmen. Id seen a p51 plane, but id never really, truly understood what it meant. Matt quy take your time. Pelley before donating the plane, known as a pt13, the quys carried the last of the airmen back to the air. Matt quy and it was just great to sit back in the back seat and look at this real tuskegee airman in a real tuskegee airplane. Just magical. Leo gray the greatest thrill in my life was sitting in the seat where you are and watching the ground drop out from underneath me. The pt13 was the baby that we used to learn how to fly. Pelley the smithsonian collected the thoughts of Lieutenant Colonel leo gray in 2010. Gray they said we couldnt but we had the best record of any Fighter Group in the 15th air force, and probably in the air force itself. We stayed with our bombers, we brought them home as best we could. And we proved that we could fly. Pelley time is the enemy of history, so smithsonian conservationists have been working for years restoring americas heritage from textiles to trains. This 1920 railcar had two sections white and colored. The same number of seats, but colored was compressed in half the space physical, touchable, jim crow confinement just like the guard tower from the prison in angola, louisiana, notorious for cruelty. Carlos bustamante its about 21 feet tall. And this is cast concrete, so its an enormous object. Miniscule, Carlos Bustamante is the project manager building a place for 33,000 moments in time. Bustamante so when you had the railcar, the railcar pieces, the guard tower, and all the support equipment, we had a convoy of about 12 semitrucks traveling down the road across six states to get here. And it took them about three days. Pelley how do you get those things into this building . Bustamante so we set up two very, very large cranes. And these cranes are. Are rare, theres not a lot of them this size. And we picked up these two objects, and basically brought them over the site and lowered them down about 60 feet below grade. Pelley the answer is, you dont move these objects into the building, you put these objects in place and you build the building around them . Bustamante exactly. Theres no other way. Gardullo oftentimes, what smaller things shards of glass that were picked up after the bombing of the 16th Street Baptist Church in birmingham, alabama. And its finding the balance between the big and the small, scott, that makes this work a challenge and so wonderful. Pelley what is something that you desperately want and have not been able to find . Gardullo i want willie mays mitt. laughs pelley which would be quite a catch to display along with Louis Armstrongs horn, and chuck berrys horn behind the chrome of his 73 cadillac. Theres the welcome of mintons playhouse, which resonated to miles, monk and dizzy. Alis headgear, pristine condition. And this firemens head gear, a revolutionary invention in 1914 by mechanical genius garrett morgan. Do you think the countrys ready bunch i dont think america is ever ready to have the conversation around race, based on what we see around the landscape, whether its ferguson or other places, that people are really ready to shine the light on all the dark corners of the american experience. But i hope this museum will help, in a small way, to do that. Pelley this is not the American Museum of slavery . Bunch this is not the museum of tragedy. It is not the museum of difficult moments. It is the museum that says, here is a balanced history of america that allows us to cry and smile. Pelley on september 24th, americas first black president will cut the ribbon to the smithsonians first National Museum of African American history and culture in announcer see what maryanne wore at the Lincoln Memorial and a copy of the emancipation declaration at 60minutesovertime. Com. Look, the wolf was huffing and puffing. Like you do sometimes, grandpa . Well, when you have copd, it can be hard to breathe. It can be hard to get air out, which can make it hard to get air in. So i talked to my doctor. She said. Symbicort could help you breathe better, starting within 5 minutes. Symbicort doesnt replace a rescue inhaler for sudden symptoms. Symbicort helps provide significant improvement of your lung function. Symbicort is for copd, including chronic bronchitis and emphysema. It should not be taken more than twice a day. Symbicort contains formoterol. 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Trouble is, the countrys too broke to keep its historic ruins, churches and monuments from crumbling to dust. Italy is up to its neck in debt, taxes go unpaid, corruption in an overstuffed bureaucracy is rife. But now, some of its most treasured and endangered landmarks are being saved not by the government, but by a more respected italian institution, the fashion business. As morley safer reported in 2014, its stepped in to rescue some of italys most iconic sites among them, the very symbol of its rich, violent and inventive history, the colosseum in rome. Morley safer with its stunning, timeless sights, its justifiably called the eternal city a holy place to billions; a vast landscape of the sacred and profane; an sunset. And smack in the middle is the colosseum, the greatest surviving wonder of the ancient world, a memorial to the rise, decline and fall of imperial rome, a place truly colossal. Kimberly bowes we think it seats about 50,000 people. But this number depends on how wide you think the roman behind was. If you think that they had big behinds, then you calculate less; small behinds, you calculate more. Safer backsides aside, professor Kimberly Bowes is the director of the American Academy in rome and an expert on ancient mediterranean history who knows every inch of the colosseum. Shes taking us to the very top level, far above where tourists tread, for a sight that, over the centuries, very few people have seen firsthand. Bowes the view is terrifying and the view is extraordinary. Poor people sat. You really get the scale of this building here, though. Look how big this is. Look how big this is people are ants safer the place was built by the hands of slaves in just ten years, finished a mere half century after the crucifixion. The performers here were gladiators, wild animals, even comedians. I gather that this place was the entertainment center, the broadway of its day, yes . Bowes in a way. The whole point is to produce marvels, to produce a spectacle that would have amazed the audience. The people with the most power, the senators, are down at the bottom. And the people with the least power, the slaves and the women, are up at the top. Safer women . Bowes women. Like, you dont want women to get too close to gladiators. You have to keep them separate. Because your greatest fear. Youve two fears if youre a roman man. To kill you one day in your bed. And your second fear is that your wife is going to run off with a slave, like a gladiator. This is what everyones afraid of, so youve got to put the women up on the top. Safer so, even though the gladiators were slaves, they were kind of the movie stars of their day. Bowes they were. Safer and we turn to hollywood for an idea of how it all might have looked. cheers and applause bowes theres a moment in gladiator where Russell Crowe walks out to right where we are. Safer professor bowes gives the filmmakers high marks for the historical accuracy of their computer recreation of the colosseum. Bowes the whole drama is really the reenactment of roman conquest, the continual expansion of the empire. Safer backstage was actually underground the basement. Bowes until recently, this was just filled with dirt. Safer a labyrinth of corridors dungeons for slaves, cages for animals, all brought from the far reaches of the and wooden elevators, raised by ropes and pulleys, leading to trap doors in the stage. Bowes theres a wonderful scene in gladiator where the tiger pops out of the floor. This is exactly the kind of thing that would have been used to wow the audience. Safer since the 18th century, the Roman Catholic church has venerated the colosseum as a symbol of the early christian martyrs who were put to death for their beliefs. Professor bowes tells visitors there were indeed early christians quietly executed elsewhere in rome. But as for the colosseum. Bowes we have not one piece of evidence that any christians were ever killed in this building, not one. There are, i think, really interesting reasons for this. If you take a group of people who, by all accounts, are extraordinarily brave in the face of certain death, and you put them in this space and put them on display, whos everyone going to cheer for . Christians, right . Because they show such extraordinary bravery. This is not a smart thing to do politically. So, im in the famous colosseum. Safer six million tourists a year visit here, snapping selfies and posing with renta gladiators who pass the time with cigarettes and cell phones. The place has survived fires and earthquakes over the centuries. Now, theres a new crisis finding the money to manage the crowds and keep up with basic maintenance. The director of the colosseum is rossella rea. Rossella rea translated the money isnt there. Theres very little, totally inadequate funding. Only 5 of what we need. Safer too little money, and from the italian parliament, too much red tape. A lot of people say the bureaucracy is so top heavy that thats the reason why things dont get done. Rea bureaucracy is not just and we are the first victims. Bureaucracy, for us, is a killer. Safer but that scaffolding you saw earlier is a sign that help is on the way. The colosseum is getting a badly needed facelift, with money from an unlikely source. To prevent further ruin, a benefactor is spending an arm and a leg 35 million on a place where, 2,000 years ago, gladiators and slaves literally lost arms, legs and lives, and all in the name of show business. The benefactor is diego della valle, a prominent italian businessman who knows a lot about the business of showing. Della valle is c. E. O. Of tods, the Luxury Leather Goods company. Crafting stylish shoes and bags has long been an italian specialty. To the state. Why spend so much of your own money, millions upon millions, to fix this wreck . Diego della valle why not . Well, i am italian. I am very proud to be italian. And there is a very famous kennedy speech, no . Is the moment that what is possible for us to do for our country, we need to do now. Safer the shoes that made della valles fortune are assembled the oldfashioned way by hand, stitch by stitch. And the work hes funding at the colosseum is also about as low tech as it gets. Its being cleaned literally inch by inch to get rid of centuries of cakedon dust, grime, air and auto pollution. The stone is travertine, a kind of limestone. No chemicals are allowed, only days, weeks, months, years on end of scrubbing. Built by hand, saved by hand. How long is it going to take . Della valle the colosseum, i think, three years from now. Safer and what will it look like, do you think, when theyre della valle i am very curious. Safer to get some idea, we were shown a few sections that have been completely cleaned 2,000 years old, and looking almost brand new. And in the world of high style, its become fashionable to follow della valles example. An entire parade of fashionistas are bankrolling similar worthy causes. The fendi fashion house donated 3. 5 million for some new plumbing for a familiar waterworks. Its the trevi fountain. Marcello, come here safer . Where, 54 years anita ekberg went wading in fellinis la dolce vita, the sweet life, forever linking rome and romance. Silvia fendi this movie helped a lot to build this powerful image of the trevi fountain. Cinema has big power. Safer silvia fendis grandfather started the business 90 years ago. And as we spoke, huge crowds had a last chance to throw in a coin before the closing of the site for repairs. Fendi it means that you will be in good health in order to come back, so its very important for us. This country gave us a lot, and so its nice, at a point, to. To give back something. Safer elsewhere in rome, the bulgari fashion house is paying steps, where tourists stop to rest their feet. Ties to italy is restoring the pyramid of cestius, built to honor a noble roman two decades before the birth of christ and after the roman conquest of egypt. And in venice, the 400yearold rialto bridge over the grand canal will be cleaned and strengthened, thanks to 7 million from this man, renzo rosso. Is the government too poor, too broke to maintain its treasures . Renzo rosso no, i think we have to face with the reality. The reality is that they dont have money. Safer rosso is a farmers son, a selfmade man known as the jeans genius, as in diesel jeans. He built the brand from the ground up, expanding into other businesses and becoming a billionaire several times over. Rosso i want more short. Safer his sleek headquarters rival anything in silicon valley, what with the espresso bars and day care, where kids of business. Clap out, clap in. Safer but the fashion industry is a rare bright spot in the stagnant italian economy, and these workers are the lucky ones. Elsewhere, fully half the countrys young adults are unemployed. Theres corruption, public and private, and widespread tax evasion. Rosso the italian people are tired of this corruption. Because we have too many people that steal, too many people that put the money in his pocket. We have 40 of people who dont can you imagine . 40 . Its unbelievable. Safer pope francis talks about the problem in scathing terms, saying corrupt politicians, businessmen and priests are everywhere. And the countrys new young prime minister, matteo renzi, has declared war on the political establishment, saying the whole system should be scrapped. Della valle i think its possible now to. To open a new way. The old point of view was without any sense. I hope in the new point of view. I push for the new point of view. Safer but as della valles scrubbers continue their work, its worth noting that his generous offer to restore the countrys greatest monument was mired in the bureaucratic mud for nearly three years before work could begin. Bowes this is the real challenge that italy has. This is why sites are closed and monuments are falling down. The bureaucracy will have to change in order to actually make it possible for someone to come and say, here, do you want 25 million . Without the bureaucracy saying, well, i dont know. Ill have to think about it. Safer but time has a way of standing still for italians. Past glories are always present. The food remains superb and the noble wines still lubricate the conversation. Dolce vita, the sweet life. As for the future, thats somebody elses problem. I recommend nature made fish oil. Because i trust their quality. 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Pelley before stepping down as pope, benedict xvi carried out thousands of official duties over eight years, but only once did he travel outside rome to bestow the vaticans highest honor on a church, transforming it into a basilica, a sacred place forever. Tonight, were going to take you to that extraordinary church. Its called the Sagrada Famiilia, and, if youve ever been to barcelona, spain, you couldnt have missed it. Spectacular buildings ever constructed by man, the vision of genius spanish architect antoni gaudii, known as gods architect, who died almost a century ago. Its been under construction for 130 years, and its still not finished. Why would a church take so long to build . Because, as lara logan first reported in 2013, gaudiis design was as complicated as it was advanced. Today, the Sagrada Famiilia has become the longest running architectural project on earth. Lara logan when Pope Benedict came to the Sagrada Famiilia two years ago, it was the first time mass had ever been held here. In an ancient tradition as old as the catholic church, he as a basilica. Not since 1883, when it was envisioned by antoni gaudii, had it been seen in all its glory. 800 voices filled the air, one of the largest choirs in the world, and close to 7,000 people gathered, celebrating a moment that had taken 128 years to arrive. While the inside is mostly finished, outside, theres still much to be done. You can see the spires and construction cranes for miles. Watch as this picture moves in from above those tiny figures below are people dwarfed by the massive faccade rising from the main entrance of the church. Devout, and this was his way to make amends to god for the sins of the modern world. Gijs Van Hensbergen i mean, he wanted to write the history of the whole of the catholic faith in one building. I mean, how crazy and how extraordinary and how ambitious and how, in a sense, megalomaniac that idea is. Logan gijs Van Hensbergen immersed himself in antoni gaudiis life for ten years and wrote whats considered the definitive biography. He took us to see the nativity faccade, the only part built while gaudii was alive. Van hensbergen its the bible written in stone. Logan so, every single little thing that you look at there, every detail symbolizes Something Real . Van hensbergen yeah, and that was the idea, that we together would spend days here me teaching you, if i was a priest, what the story was, and what the symbolism was. And once you get inside is a wonderful, kind of spiritual logan the ceiling is a striking display of gaudiis engineering genius. He wanted the interior of his church to have the feel of a forest, because thats where he believed man could feel closest to god. And when you look upwards, you can see gaudiis columns branching out like trees. Van hensbergen trees are actually buildings, he said. It knows where to throw out a branch. And if you look at the Sagrada Famiilia today, thats exactly what happens with those bizarre, eccentric. They look bizarre and eccentric, but the engineering beneath it is absolutely exceptional. Logan Van Hensbergen pointed out that, as you move towards the altar, the columns are made from stronger and stronger stone. Gaudii chose red porphery from iran for the ones that bear the among the strongest in the world. The one thing that distinguished gaudii as an architect, what would it be . Van hensbergen the capacity to see space in a totally different way, to make space explode, to see a building as a sculpture rather than just as a place to live in or a roof over your head. Hes someone who reinvented the language of architecture, which no other architect has ever managed to do. Logan how many years ahead of his time was he . Van hensbergen oh, he was a century ahead, he was a century ahead. Logan gaudii knew the Sagrada Famiilia would not be completed in his lifetime, so he spent years building these elaborate this one is of the churchs ceiling. They would have to act as a guide for future generations of architects to follow his complicated design, and he knew that, without them, it would never be finished the way he intended. Jordi bonet i am very old, but. Logan youre very old . Bonet this next month, yes. Logan but . Logan gaudiis legacy has been in the hands of this mans family for more than 80 years. Jordi bonet came here for the first time in 1932, when he was just seven years old. Do you remember what this was like when you first came here . Bonet yes. Logan was it nothing like this . Bonet nothing of this. Only this faccade, the walls. And the other faccade . This was nothing. Logan for years, the Sagrada Famiilia was little more than a ruin, a pile of rubble and open sky. And it may have stayed that way were it not for this one family. This is jordi bonets father, who was one of the lead architects here for more than 40 years. Jordi followed him as chief architect for almost three decades, and his daughter mariona is an architect here today. Together, theyve spent more time working on this church than here. Japanese sculptor etsuro sotoo has spent 35 years in this church, and this is where he expects to be for the rest of his life, sculpting the figures that adorn gaudiis final masterpiece, consumed by the man and his vision. Etsuro sotoo translated gaudii teaches me and helps me solve problems in my work. For me, hes not dead. Logan why did you convert to catholicism . You became a catholic. Etsuro sotoo translated i was a buddhist, but after working here, i realized i couldnt do my job without knowing gaudii. And to know him, you have to be in the place he was, and that was a world of faith. Logan gaudiis deep faith is the reason he became known as gods architect. This is one of the few photographs ever taken of him. Working on the Sagrada Famiilia. And over the next 43 years, it became an obsession. Van hensbergen he looked like a homeless person. His trousers were held up with string. His clothes were kind of frayed, and. Because all he was interested in was the Sagrada Famiilia. I mean, that was every waking hour, to the point, at the end of his life, actually, where he was sleeping on the site. Logan gaudii died suddenly at this intersection in 1926 when he was hit by a tram. The driver pushed him aside, mistaking the beloved architect for a tramp. Van hensbergen the photos show you these people kind of bereft of their builder, the builder of god. Logan after his death, the builder of gods plaster models continued to guide construction for the next ten years, until 1936, when the spanish civil war broke out. Anarchists attacked the sagrada this photo captures smoke billowing from its side. All those models gaudii had spent years building were smashed to pieces. Wow, these are all the original pieces that were picked up from his studio. Mark burry yup, and theyve been sort of painstakingly identified. Logan these shattered fragments were rescued from the rubble and ashes by jordi bonets father and a team of architects. There are thousands of them locked away inside this room in the Sagrada Famiilia. They are the structural d. N. A. Of gaudiis church. Burry they are absolutely the link; not a vague link, not a source of evidence its the source of evidence. Logan New Zealander mark burry was studying architecture at Cambridge University in england when he first came to the Sagrada Famiilia on a backpacking trip in 1977. Hed come at just the right moment. The architects were stuck. Completed, and they were ready to take on the main body of the church, but no one could figure out how to build it as gaudii intended. What were you going to do that they couldnt do . Burry my task was to actually reverseengineer the models, if you like. Logan reverseengineer them so he could understand how gaudiis models were supposed to fit together. Burry this is the model makers workshop. Logan . Almost like the pieces of a complex puzzle. He told us gaudiis design was so advanced, there was nothing like it in the language of architecture at the time. In the end, he turned to the most sophisticated aeronautical Design Software available. Burry we had to look to other professions whove actually tackled the complexities of the Sagrada Famiilia, which are basically complex shapes and surfaces, so thats the vehicle industry the car designers, the ship designers, the plane designers. Theyve been grappling for decades with the very same up as architectural challenges. Logan so you are using the most uptodate aeronautical Engineering Software to complete something that he conceived of in the late 1800s. Burry absolutely. Logan after 34 years, mark burry is now one of the lead architects. He took us up to their construction site in the sky, way above the city. From up here, you can see all the way to the mediterranean. How did they build these towers burry they built them by hand. Logan today, massive cranes swing heavy equipment and materials across the sky, constructing the Sagrada Famiilia precisely as gaudii envisioned. Burry says they still rely on gaudiis models to guide them, nearly a hundred years later. Burry whats extraordinary is, because of the system that gaudii put in place using these particular geometries, it all inch. Logan the spot where were standing is where theyre building gaudiis central tower. At 566 feet, it will make this the Tallest Church on earth. Gaudii designed it to be three feet shorter than the tallest surrounding mountain, in deference to god. When you finish this tower, its going to be double where we are right now . Burry were going to get this view amplified by two. Logan mark burry says it will take at least another 13 years to finish the Sagrada Famiilia, which is paid for entirely by donations to the church. During the popes visit, jordi bonet was called on to represent the three generations of architects, engineers and gaudiis vision this far. Do you think you will see this complete . Bonet this is very difficult to answer. My age is a big age. But it is possible. Logan do you have any doubt in your mind that this will be finished one day . Bonet oh, yes, i. I believe. Alleluia, alleluia. bell tolls this cbs sports update is brought to you by the lincoln motor company. Im greg gumbel in new york with a few upsets in College Basketball today. A stunner in the big east as seaton hall knocks off xavier. In the big 10, ohio state and improve its ncaa tournament resume. And in the acc, pittsburgh wins its first game against ranked opponent by beating number 15 duke on senior day for the panthers. 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