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Announcer from abc news, this week with George Stephanopoulos begins now. Good morning, im martha raddatz, hope you had a great thanksgiving. Well get to the 2016 race shortly, including ben carsons standing by in jordan, revealing what hes learned on that surprise trip to the refugee camps there. Colorado, brandnew details on the investigation into that deadly shootout at planned revelations the shooter may have been targeting the group. Our exclusive interview with a top planned parenthood official momentarily. The ground with the latest. Good morning, clayton. Reporter good morning, martha. Investigators here are trying to piece together the facts here this morning, but also trying to this morning, Law Enforcement sources arent officially saying why robert dear allegedly launched a fivehour attack. Attention, all units cspd is working. Reporter after his surrender and arrest in Colorado Springs, he allegedly made rambling, hostile statements about his target, planned parenthood. Were pinned down. Were getting active gunfire. Reporter on saturday, police and federal agents showed up at his home, where neighbors said dear kept to himself but always seemed a little off. We got some antiobama pamphlets within three minutes of meeting somebody. Reporter u. S. Attorney general Loretta Lynch calls the shooting a crime against women receiving health care at planned parenthood. The organization itself said the gunman was motivated by opposition to safe and legal abortion. It happened at a planned parenthood center. Reporter what does that tell you . My suspicions are, that has a lot to do with the motive. Reporter but knowing the three victims. One a police officer, garrett swasey, a married father of two, once a champion junior ice skater. He wanted to be in the olympics and he wanted to make a mark. Reporter the other two victims killed havent been officially identified. Nine others were wounded, expected to be okay. I saw myself in the mirror and its like, my god, he was aiming for my head. Reporter now, Law Enforcement sources tell the Justice Department consider this a case of domestic terrorism. State murder charges will take dear is talking to rambling, other times sounding perfectly rational. They may never understand his motive or mental state. Hell be in court monday. Martha. Thanks, clayton. Colorado springs, john suthers, tell us about the motivation in this killing . Well, martha, the police and the prosecutor havent officially released anything about the motivation. As a former district attorney, im very respectful of that and ill await, you know, the before well comment on the but do you believe planned parenthood was targeted . It certainly appears that way. Im sure that, as the case proceeds, the criminal case proceeds, well learn a lot more about the motivation. Do you know anything more about the statements that he allegedly made about planned parenthood or about abortion . I know what you know, somebody unauthorized made some not going to contribute to that, martha. Im going to let the police and the prosecutors do their job. What more can you tell us managed to take the suspect alive . Yeah, it was kind of an unusual situation in the fact that he gave himself up alive. Martha, i was in the command center watching this unfold and the police just did a fantastic job, from the command center, they were able to monitor security cameras in the center and advise the s. W. A. T. Officers inside about the movement of the perpetrator. And that sort of coordination, they were emailing diagrams about the building inside to the s. W. A. T. Team and that coordination im absolutely certain saved a number of lives because they were able to get people out of the building that were in areas that the perpetrator was not. Incredible work by your officers. We also heard that the gunman outside. Possibly, explosives or bags. Have you cleared the scene there now . There were some things in his truck, im not sure they have been identified as having, you know, being related. Were just going to have the crime scene is still being processed. Were going to have to wait and see what the police and prosecutor tell us about this. Would you say this is an act of domestic terrorism . It certainly appears that way. We have, martha, something that occurs quite a bit. We have a person thats pretty much off the grid and acting for whatever motivations very hard to ferret out these folks. You know, i was an attorney general that was a head of a committee looking at things that are consistent about these kind of incidents. And one of the things that we dont do very well is identify these people sometimes with Mental Health problems and prevent their access to weapons. And i, you know, well wait and see here, but by all indications here that this guy was off the grid. Okay, thank you very much. Mayor suthers. Now lets turn to the president and ceo of planned parenthood of rocky mountain. Vick gee cowart joins us in an abc news excloseusews exclusive. Do you believe the facility was targeted because it is a planned parenthood facility . Good morning. Like the mayor, i have the same kinds of information thats been reported that the individual that did this crime had ramblings about abortion, but we didnt have any advanced notice, but it does appear that it was targeted at us from what we have heard. And walk us through what happened with your staff, we heard about this incredible coordination on security, but know about what happened inside. Thank you for asking that question. Because our focus really has been around our staff, planned parenthood holds the safety and the wellbeing of our patients and our staff at the very top of our list. Its our most important thing. Im so pleased that all of our staff got out of the building safe, uninjured. What happened was, they evidently heard a shot and they were able to move right into their training and i want to give a huge shoutout to the people who were in that health center, because they responded perfectly according to their training. They got away from the front of the building. They got into the back, locked portions of the building. They called 911 immediately. They moved into locked office spaces. Not one big space. But Different Office spaces around the building. And they hunkered down. They quieted their cellphones. They didnt talk and they waited for the officials to rescue them, and we are so, so thankful for the First Responders and the Law Enforcement in Colorado Springs and heartbroken at the loss of an officer who was one of the First Responders. It is truly a tragedy. I want to move back to this idea of domestic terrorism, again, youre being cautious about what the suspect may or may not have said, but you have said in a statement, that extremists are creating a poisonous environment that feeds domestic terrorism. We have experienced so much hateful language, hateful speech, such a negative environment has been created around the work that planned parenthood does, around the idea of safe and legal abortion and we have seen that across the speakers in the last few months. I cant believe that this isnt contributing to some folks mentally unwell or not, thinking that its okay to target planned parenthood or to target abortion providers. Are you talking about members of congress . Are you talking about politicians . I think politicians have been in that conversation, and i mean, you know that the air waves are full of antiabortion language of antiplanned parenthood accusations. Much of which is false in nature and we at planned parenthood are first and foremost a health care provider, we provide lifesaving services to all kinds of folks, men and women across our communities, and the tirades against planned parenthood in the last few months have really been over the top. Us, vicki cowart, this morning. Turning now to 2016 and ben carson heading overseas to jordan, meeting face to face with Syrian Refugees after coming under fire for his lack of Foreign Policy experience. Ben carson joins us shortly. First, the latest from abcs tom llamas. Were just getting a good impression of whats going on. Reporter ben carsons campaign releasing these images from his surprise trip to jordan. This clinic seems to be very nice. Reporter carson visiting refugee camps where syrians have fled civil war. But bringing refugees to the United States does nothing to solve this crisis. Jordan already houses 1. 4 million refugees. Jordan needs and deserves our help. The overseas trip comes as carson has taken new heat about his Foreign Policy comments. Like wrongly inserting that china was involved in the syrian civil war. From rabid dogs. You know, if theres a rabid dog running around your neighborhood you probably are not going to assume something good about that dog. Reporter and National Security issues critical to 2016 candidates. Our latest poll of republicans shows terrorism now topping the economy as the most important issue for voters. For carson, only 6 of republicans in the crucial state of iowa believe hes best to handle Foreign Policy. Ted cruz takes the lead at 24 . Hes come out against sending u. S. Ground troops to syria. You asked about boots on the ground, the kurds are our boots on the ground. Reporter meanwhile, donald trump wants more airpower in the fight against isis. I would bomb the [ bleep ] out of isis. Reporter trump is open to the idea of sending ground troops. Others have been more definitive news, new york. And ben carson joins us now from jordan. Good morning, dr. Carson. Well get to your trip in a moment. But first, your reaction to what happened in Colorado Springs. Well, obviously, any hate crime is a horrible thing. No matter from where it comes and should be condemned very strongly. Dr. Carson, the planned parenthood Rocky Mountains vicki cowart said extremists are creating a poisonous environment that feeds domestic terrorism in this country. Do you agree with that . Unfortunately, theres a lot of extremism coming from all of the areas. One of the biggest areas i think thats threatening to tear our country apart. We get into our separate corners and we hate each other, we want to destroy those who we disagree. That comes from both sides. Equation. But what we have to start asking ourselves is, what can we do as a nation to rectify this situation . How can we begin to engage in rational discussion . All you have to do is go to an article on the internet and go to the comments section, you dont get five comments down before people start calling each other names and abouting like idiots. What happened to us . What happened to the civility that used to characterize our society . And youre in jordan right now and have had quite the trip to visit refugees, what have you learned about refugees that you didnt know before . Well, i was very pleasantly surprised to see how welcoming they are. I had an opportunity to talk to many of the Syrian Refugees and ask them, what is your supreme desire . And it was pretty uniform. They want to go back home, obviously, and i said, what kind of things could a nation like the United States do that would be helpful to you . And again, i was a little bit surprised with the answer. Because it wasnt what were hearing a lot. Were hearing that they all want to come here to the United States. Thats not what they want. They want to go back home. They said thge United States and other nations could be much more supportive of the efforts manifested by the jordanians in taking in people, at a lot of expense to themselves. They cant continue that without the help of the international community. You know, you look at last month, we spent 3 billion on halloween candy, thats the amount of money thats needed to bridge the shortfall for a year that theyre having in jordan with the refugees. Dr. Carson, we spend more than 4 billion in humanitarian aid, to jordan for the refugees, be doing . Well, you know, you have to go there and see for yourself. But you can see there are a lot of individual modules that they have created for their families, theyre in the process of trying to get electricity to all of them, getting pluming to all of them, and they have taken in millions of people. For us to bring 10,000 or 25,000 people over here, that doesnt solve the problem. I mean, we need to look at Real Solutions for the problem and not things that make us feel dr. Carson, i have been to the refugee camps and found the same thing, they want to go either back to syria, which doesnt look possible at this point, or they want to go somewhere else. They want jobs. Do you welcome them into america now, has anything changed your mind . Well, when you say, you know, they want to escape the refugee of them want to escape the refugee camps is because theres not adequate support there for them. If there were adequate support, it would be a completely different story and we can provide that adequate support the people i talked to, they dont want to stay there. They dont want to stay there permanently, they want to be repatriated into their own country. Is that going to be easier from a neighboring country or from the United States . Dr. Carson, by taking this trip in the middle of the campaign, are you acknowledging that you werent quite prepared to be commander in chief . Im acknowledging that i like to know what im talking about. Its the same situation when i went this summer down to the border of mexico. Were problems there, but to be actually able to talk to the farmers who are being harassed and to the sheriffs and sheriffs deputies who are frustrated after risking their lives and then been told by i. C. E. You must release these people. Seeing a fence with holes cut in it that people can easily go through, and thats barrier. Its good to see things for yourself so you can begin to formulate the right kind of policies with the right information. So, what are the right kind of policies for those Syrian Refugees, should america be taking some of those refugees . I believe that the right policy is to support the Refugee Program that is in place, that works extremely well but does not have aid adequate funding. If you do that, you solve that problem without exposing the American People to a population that could be infiltrated with terrorists who want to destroy us. If you can eliminate the possibility of terrorists infiltrating them and wanting to different argument. But i dont see that being eliminated. Do you think there were terrorists among those refugees who you talked to . I dont know whether there were or not. But i do know that the isis terrorists have said that if we bring refugees that they would infiltrate them and why wouldnt they . And i want to ask you quickly about isis. I was in iraq last week. I was in the air combat command center. Would you like to see the rules of engagement loosen . One of the things they told me, they aim for zero civilian casualties. And sole purpose isis structure. What i would really like to see is an administration that really seriously sits down with would ask them, what is needed in order to accomplish our goal terrorists . Thats what i would really like to see. So, you dont know whether or not you would rules of engagement those of us who are not experts in that area can sit around all day long talking about, oh, we should do this and we should do that. Why dont we listen to the people who are the experts in that area, find out what it is they need. And our decision should be, do we really want to give them what they need . Or continue playing around like we are. Okay, thanks very much, dr. Carson. Much more ahead on 2016 including the candidate whose new video seems to be comparing donald trump to hitler. Plus, high alert with president obama heading to that summit in paris and new revelations of an nfl legend that could change the future of the game. Revelations of an future of the game. Janet . Cough if you can hear me. Dont even think about it. I took mucinex dm for my phlegmy cough. Yeah. But what about mike . It works on his cough too. Cough it works on his cough too. 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Security appears to be higher here than at any time after world war ii. Terrorism will be on the agenda when president obama and hollande have a oneonone meeting at dinner tomorrow night. Hollande is seeking unity and a steppedup effort against isis. But in the wake of the shooting down of that russian jet by turkey last week, unity is a very tall order. Turkish Prime Minister erdogan has refused to apologize and russia has slapped severe economic sanctions on turkey, one of the subplots here at the summit is, Prime Minister with vladimir putin. Both will be here. But so far putin has refused to respond to that request. Thanks, jon joining us now is michael mccaul, chair of the Homeland Security committee. And adam schiff. Top democrat on the house intelligence committee. I want to start with you, chairman mccaul, i want to go back to this planned parenthood shooting. Planned parenthood is calling it domestic terrorism. And saying, em dreamists are feeding that environment. Do you agree . Its a tragedy. Were seeing too many of these shootings, it seems like every week, i think its a Mental Health crisis. I dont think it would fall under quite the definition of domestic terrorism, although ill leave that to the Justice Department to make that determination. But, i do think we have to address Mental Health and i think we also need to enforce existing law which requires, if you have been adjudicated mentally deficient that you have to put on the list so that you cant purchase a firearm. And what we found, when i met with the new york police department, so many of these cases never made it into the system and i think that needs to be fixed. And do you think that will help, congressman schiff, that list, how do you draw the line on mental problems . I think this is a big issue. Martha, nothing we have done has worked. Essentially, we have have done nothing. The background checks are not universal, so even people who are mentally ill would be barred if they buy it off the back of a truck or they buy it at a gun show. If they can still have access to very powerful weapons, theyre still going to be able to kill a lot of people, we have to do something other than this routine, now phantomime of condolence every time we have a mass shooting. I want to move to paris and they have somewhat lifted the imminent threat in brussels, i was there, you feel very safe when the city is lockdown, but they cant continue that, what do you know now of the imminent threat of brussels, in that area . I think the imminent threat is still very real and very present. There are a lot of people who are unaccounted for who pose a threat to both belgium and france. Until europe makes the decision to share information to create a unified watch list, much like we have in this country, they either have to do that or they stop the free flow of people across their borders and within their borders, or its not a question of if only when. Chairman mccaul, what lessons have we learned from the attacks in paris . Well, there are several. The paris attack, foreign fighters traveling to the region coming back, so we have 5,000 europeans with western passports that have traveled to the region, many of them have come back. And many of them have come back to the United States. I do think the threat is far greater in europe because of the numbers. There are far more foreign europe to iraq and syria. My committee issued a Bipartisan Task force report, theyre implementing the recommendations and the legislation to help tighten up security gaps both internationally and domestic. As adam talked about, the ease of travel, they dont check their citizens watch lists. I think a lot of that will change in the wake of the paris attacks. What about here in the homeland . Chairman mccaul, what really do you have to do . You cant protect all of these soft targets . Its very difficult and we dont want these foreign fighters coming into the United States from visawaiver weve had in the homeland, we have had 18 plots stopped that were isis related. We have arrested 70 isis followers. We have a thousand investigation in all 50 states. One thing congress can do, we have an appropriations bill coming up in about two weeks and i think the fbi and components of Homeland Security will need an increase in funding to help this combat this threat we see right in the home land. Is that the answer, congressman schiff . Well, we certainly have resource challenges. But were fortunate that we dont have anywhere near of foreign fighters to track that europe does. At the same time, two areas that we can beef up our own security is at our airports. Way too often when we test the tsa, they dont meet the tests. And that was one of the things that i was going to bring down, shooting down the the explosion aboard that we blame on isis, that is pretty incredible, and we havent talked about that a lot. It is incredible. And if you look at the device that isis claims they used, no larger than the size of a soda can. Do you believe thats accurate . I believe a device that small can bring down an aircraft. We have to tighten up our defenses. While some have put a lot of focus on the refugees, by and large the refugees havent been the problem, the real vulnerability here is people with european passports that can travel without a visa to the United States. Well have to address that issue. Thank you very much for joining us. Up next, john kasich taking on donald trump. You by voya financial. Woman my mom and i have the same hands. Same eyes. Same laugh. 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But the president s done nothing and hes created a very big void and, martha, as i mentioned earlier, the russians have now deployed s400 air Defense System that only threatens our ability to move around, but the turks, they also have the coverage in northern israel, for the region and for us. And we dither and we delay and it is just not working out and frankly, the president ought to be encouraging the president of turkey and say, we stand with him against the fact that the russians invaded his airspace, but we have done nothing. The russians have moved forward to deploy an air Defense System that we at this point really cant penetrate. What would you do about that air Defense System . Well, at this point, you know the only thing that you can do with that air Defense System is to take it out and of course, thats very serious. Martha, thats all you can do right now. With moving forward on a nofly zone and i think we should be putting boots on the ground with our coalition, with europeans and our friends in the middle east like we had in the first gulf war to destroy isis once and for all. You have called for boots on the ground. Youre calling an invading force, an occupying force. Give us specifics. Im not talking about im talking about a coalition that looks like we had in first friends in the middle east. This problem with isis by just sitting back and delaying or dithering, which is what we have done, and the longer we do this, we did not support the Syrian Rebels in the beginning so assad survives. We didnt create the nofly zones. All of a sudden, the russians are there with a very strong air could potentially limit what we part of israel and turkey. I mean, its just amazing whats happening. This is reminiscent of what happened jimmy carter showed weakness to the russians all of the way back in the late 70s. Its a very serious problem, martha. Governor, i want to move to the campaign and donald trump. Your campaign has a new ad out that is stirring a lot of controversy. Lets listen. If he keeps going and he actually becomes president , he might just get around to you and you better hope that theres someone left to help you. Okay, youre referencing the famous antinazi first they came for, the ad appears to compare donald trump to hitler, is that the comparison . No, martha, this is a colonel who was a p. O. W. For five years in north vietnam. Was beaten and tortured. And these are his words. He feels very strongly about a man who divides us. But its your ad. Well, but his words. Look, its about whether we want to have a leader who unifies the country. I mean, trump has criticized and insulted women, hispanics, muslims, reporters, in addition to that do believe what donald trump is saying that he didnt know he was insulted the reporter . Hes insulted other reporters. This one he absolutely mocked who was disabled. Martha, i know youre offended i be this. We are all. We need a leader who brings us together not a leader thats separating us from one group to another. Does that mean you would not support him if he was the nominee . Well, he wont be the nominee. Look, he may have 20 of the vote. But 80 of republicans dont support him. Somebody has to call him out on this kind of dievisive lack waj. You say he wont get the nomination, what if he does, hes not going to. Would you support him, governor kasich, if hes the republican nominee . After what you just said about him. I think hes very divisive i know all of the press keeps speculating on what he was going do. You all said he was going to now, he didnt. Maybe hes going to make it. Hes not going to make it, martha, because somebody who divides this current here in the 21st century, whos calling names of women and muslims and hispanics and mocking reporters and then saying i didnt do it but he did it. Its not to happen, martha. Everybody needs to get over it and take a deep breath. Serious problems. All right, governor kasich, we talked about Foreign Affairs we thank you for joining us this morning. I wish you nor the race, martha. That would be a disaster. Okay, next, on this thanksgiving football weekend, the surprising revelation about a gridiron icon, could it change the game . Ge the game . I would never mock a person that has difficulty. I would never do that. Im telling you, i would never do it. I would never do it. I dont care if i liked the person or didnt, and i dont know this person. Donald trump there defending himself, saying he didnt make fun of a disabled New York Times reporter and the powerhouse roundtable is here. Weekly standard editor bill kristol. Maria cardona and matt bai and abc news cokie roberts. Cokie, do you believe him and does it matter . Nothing seems to matter to his base voters. They say whatever he says is fine. I think it was important that john kasich is now beginning to call him out. Its about time that others in the republican field start to say the emperor has no clothes and that is the case of course. Is that the case, bill kristol . The case donald trump is not telling the truth. And he i mean, he clearly knew what he was doing when he mocked the New York Times reporter. He makes the pseudoapology that he seems to get away with. Was it an apology no, i said it was a pseudoapology. This is thing that amazes me. About trump. We all get that he shoots from the hip. Hes a straight talker. He says what he wants. He has absolutely zero capacity. He has demonstrated zero capacity in his campaign to say im sorry. I think that could be, to me, thats disqualifying in a leader. If you cant even reflect on the things that you say in the heat of the moment. And the voters dont agree, the latest fox news poll shows hes viewed 40 honest. 55 not honest. But it doesnt seem to matter. Part of this for republicans. Fact, when he doubledowns on his lies and untruths, when he blames the media for any misstatements he thinks they made, it makes his voters that much more about supporting him. Kasich says he doesnt have the majority of the voters. Kasich seems to be the one to be taking on donald trump now. And cruz, ted cruz has taken the other side. The latest poll, ted cruz is number two in iowa with 23 in the quinnipiac poll just behind trump at 25 . He will not attack trump. Where does that go . I think it could go all the way for ted cruz, hes very much sailing in trumps wake and hoping that trump will fall and that the voters will come to him, so hes doing nothing to alienate them. Texas and won and represents texas in the senate, big state, i mean, he could make it. We just cant underestimate that the elected officials take on trump, it helps trump in a way because people have a deep distrust of our elected officials competency and honesty. I mean, look at the leading candidates for republican nomination. Two firstterm senators. All of these governors who have been in office, rick perry, 14 years. And other peoples cases, two years. Maybe christie can make a run. Its striking. We keep underestimating. I agree. Chris christie just got that Manchester Union leader endorsement. I think at any time that kind of endorsement is going to help it is now. But what i was going to say, probably this cycle more than any other, what the media says doesnt matter. In fact, could hurt a candidate in this primary process. At this point, i dont see a path where donald trump probably doesnt become the nominee. Oh, nonsense. Listen to this, bill. Said before that will but what can he say that he hasnt said before that will make his hold on. 20 of the republican vote but if no one else drops off and he starts gaining that is where the superpacs make a difference. Exactly. Youre shaking your head, matt. The question, look, we know what we got with trump now, you have an inelastic base of support. He couldnt shake that today. The question is, the question is, you know, can he grow it . He has shown no capacity to grow it. What youre really looking at, the question you have to ask yourself is, can the governing establishment of the Republican Party at this point be like the tea party in 2012 . They remained split, thats the scenario. I dont think establishments behave that way. I think, ultimately, they do congeal around one or two candidates. If thats the case, theyll eclipse donald trump. I want to talk about ben carson, you heard ben carson in jordan meeting with refugees before the paris attacks, you wrote that you regretted about carsons candidacy, he has the mind and soul of candidates. You still feel the same way . I do. Trump. I said neither was qualified to ago. I think trump in my opinion i have come to loathe donald trump whereas i like and admire ben carson. Hes a dekrunt human being. I think that interview showed that. He went over to jordan, hes trying to think things through. His recommendation of sending more aid to the refugees in jordan isnt crazy after all. Im procarson and antitrump. Ultimately, carson wont be the nominee, either, which does the raise the question to cokies point. And Chris Christie is in a little moment because of what happened in paris. And terrorism once it becomes the primary issue it really does sink everybody else. Singh everything else. If people dont feel safe, nothing else matters. Hes the best pure retail candidate in the field and thats why i think the Union Leader Endorsement does matter. At this point. I think that establishment does have to congeal somewhere. He has a lot of strength as the candidate. Were running out of time. Well let you guys go. Thank you. But well still ask the powerhouse puzzler for those of you at home. President obama there conducting the president ial turkey pardon. This year pardoned turkeys homage to our 16th president. Can you guess every year, the amount of data your enterprise uses goes up. Smart devices are up. Cloud is up. Analytics is up. Seems like everything is up except your budget. Introducing comcast Business Enterprise solutions. With a different kind of network that delivers the bandwidth you need without the high cost. Because you cant build the business of tomorrow on the network of yesterday. Announcer and now the you by voya financial. So, what were the names of this years pardoned turkeys. The answer, honest and abe. Now to that surprise revelation about a football legend, hall of famer and former monday night football analyst Frank Gifford died of Natural Causes in august. But a team of pathologists saying that gifford had cte, a disease results from brain trauma. Thats detectable only after death. The Gifford Family saying our suspicions that he was suffering from the debilitating disease were confirmed. Nfl commissioner Robert Goodell said were not waiting until science provides all the answers. Were working now to improve the still, cte and the effects of head injuries on players has had a big impact on the league. So, what would be the impact of these new revelations . Lets bring in usa today and chris nowinski. Christine, i want to start with you. You wrote in your column this week that a National Conversation that we should all having of concussions should come easier with Frank Gifford. Because hes a National Name that crosses over from sports, ma that, into our culture. Save the hiv with rock hudson and with magic johnson, that conversation was advanced. Addiction with betty ford. Very different issues all. But the common theme there is a big name that crosses into all households and you can say, now, Frank Gifford had this . Everyone knows Frank Gifford. Theres not a person that doesnt know him. A Football Player frank crossed over into our lives in a big way. Chris, i saw you listening to the quote from roger goodell. Saying were not going to wait for science were going to make the game safer. You said over and over again that the nfl is too powerful, will this change anything for them . Well, i dont think it will change much for the nfl. But the Big Conversation we need to have, if this dose responsible relationship, we look at youth football. The problem is, the nfl is making some moves to their game, they cant make the youth game safe, but theyre marketing it to so many children. School college . Yes. You said you have some effects of this . Absolutely. I likely have cte. Im really motivated that our researchers can find a way to diagnose this and treat people like me. And, christine, i interviewed the head of the Health Program at the nfl, the chief doctor at the nfl, she was going through what we do for concussions. You pull them at this time. But we dont really know about that much of concussions, are you comfortable with what theyre doing now . Its better than what they were doing before. But last week there was a quarterback that kept playing with a concussion. They had a conference call. This is still a work in progress. Its not just football. Girls and womens soccer, its a huge issue there. I wonder 50 years, will we have football . Were going to have it the next 20, 30. 50 years, i dont know. What happens with those kids especially maybe the suburban kids, will they choose football or other sports . Moms and dads will say were worried about this for our kids. Chris, should we have football in 50 yours . For kids. There will be a trickledown effect that will help the kids. Theres only so much we can do to help kids. In football. No, concussions not the issue. Its hundreds of hits to the kids is terrible for any developing brain. Thanks very much to the both of you. Thats all for us today. Thanks for sharing part of your sunday with us. Check out world news tonight and well see you back here next