Commissioner moran mentioned. The other thing that bag says is they need togiven cra is projected to continue to grow that the investor in the utilities need to be cautious in their acquiring of assets that they know in likelihood might become stranded. Yes. Along those lines pacific gas and leckric when they applied to retire deoblow canyon rsh they think it is wise to retire is because the expansion of Community Choice aggregation and wont need the output of that plant to serve bundled utility cusmers. Thank you. I have one other item that is the rates item to address if i may. Please. So, i have been filling you in that pg e was making filings at the california pu c to modify their rates. When i last mentioned this at our december 10th update where we talked about projections of what those rate changes would be. Pg e said they would increase rates. You may have seen in the news they did on january 1, so pg e increased the rates and expect the impact to the hetch hetchy customers to be small and effect on the revenue neutralfelt for clean pow cleanpowersf customers i reported we projected about a 5 percent higher bill for residential customers resulting from the pg e rate increases so to be clear, our ratesclean pow cleanpowersf rates have not changed. What pg and e charges clean pow cleanpowersf partners has changed. Those rates are going up. So, we have projected about a 5 percent increase. Now that we have the actual numbers we can report the actual impact. Bills for the average clean pow cleanpowersf customer in the Green Program will be about 1. 9 percent higher so more favorable than projected from what pg and e filed but it results in higher bill frz the customers the rate increases result in higher bills for our customers. Late in december pg and e filed at the california pu c to change the solar choice customer rate and that filing makes pg and e 100 Renewable Program solar choice more competitive with the super Green Program. The average residential super green customer will continue to see a bill savings relative to pg and es 100 percent renewable offering. We had been experiencing about a 6. 3 percent bill savings in our super Green Program with pg e rate change for their 100 percent Renewable Program we project a 1 percent bill savings for residential super green customers. From 6. 3 to 1 percent still a savings so that is good. Pg e somer choice rates for commercial customers however are lower than the super green customers now. Super green commercial customers. We were providing a 4 to 6 percent average bill savings for commercial super green customers and now projecting a 2. 1 to 3. 5 percent increase for commercial super green customers relative to the pg and e 100 percent renewable product. Im gibbing a range for commercial customers because it is dependent on the type oof commercial customers. There are a number of rate schedules. It is mixed bag of news for our clean pow cleanpowersf rates program. We are scheduled to come back to the commission in april to kbraess rates issue. We expect pg e to have another rate change, which we expect to be a increase in may or march timeframe is when the next california pu c decision should we coming out that effects pg e rates. I want to make sure i close the loop on what we were projecting versus what we are seeing now that the rates are in effect. Thank you. Thank you. Commissioners any questions for mrs. Hail. I have a comment. Yes mr. Decosa. Commissioners when you listen to the presentation you need to have 4 or 5 phds. It is very convoluted. The best way is to report the deliberations on our wrap site. I would like to know for example how many megawatts of electricity is produced or is distributed by pg e . They have some coming from the jefferson transmission line. We also know that they have 400 megawatts coming from pittsburgh, a undergrounds transmission line. And we would like to know the price, the pricing. So, we have choseen to compete with pg e and rightly so. I was involved with Community Choice aggregation way back in 1999 and as much as we fought very hard for Community Choice aggregation, sfpu c did not help us. This clean Solar Program has been in place for the last 5 years and see thg real results in the last 2 years. 1 and a half year to be precise. And then we would like you know, to have a chart to see exactly how are we doing with the clean solar. Paying attention of course to pg e. What i really want to focus is, when the rico active established and think some havent read it, hydro electricity was supposed to be used by San Francisco. Mew nistalities getting subsidies and the prosidio where i worked, Public Housing getting subsidies but all that fizzled and went away and we chose to sell to [inaudible] and other entities and i would like to know how you are going to infuse or bring that power so that we are fully in control for and utilizing it right here in the city and county of San Francisco. Thank you very much. Thank you. Mr. Freed. Jason freed executive officer for lafco. One thing i want to keep in mind and mentioned by mrs. Hail is yes, rates are changing a little bit but you will see pg e chairfcking in the sprirng. One thing that was popular among the commercial side is having one rate for the entire year and not one rate enjanuary and one in the spring and summer that you have one rate that is stable and easy to understand and think that is key the program does have so you may see a small period where now for a few months we are 1. 9 percent higher or about that for residential and less for the commercial side, that when you see the next group of rates come in the spring you see that flux wait and will be more in line. We should look at the big picture not at one section of time but the entire period. Commissioner moran you made a lot of good questions that need to be asked at the cpu c level and know your staff will put those questions together. I agree if there is Public Comment at the february 1 meeting i will be there and make the comments because it is important we look at the his istically and providing something that does Something Better than what pg sque e can do for Green House Gas reduction. We dont seem to get credit for that and how the cpu c approaches the subjects matter. I notice there is a lot of people in the audience, dont know what they are here for but willing to bet most are Climate Change supporter and want to do their part to support. They can sign up today, we have a computer and willing to bet we can get to work with the system to get them to sign up for clean pow cleanpowersf Renewable Program super green. If you are not signed up police talk to someone on staff or mireself or somebody else and happy to get you signed up today. Thats great. City attorney could we have people sign up before they speak . [laughter]. Thank you for your creative thinking on that. Any other Public Comment . Mr. Kelly. The next item is a drought update. Steve ritchie. Steve ritchie assistant general manager for water. Could i have the slides, please. The drought update but it feels more like storm and flood update because we have water coming out our ears at the moment in many of the reservoirs. This is a slide you have seen many times before showing the storage levels. Important to note hetch hetchy is about 290 thousand acre feet two days ago. It is 310 acre feet a day. We are releasing 4 thousand cubic feet per second so a lot of water mubing through the system now. The water bank count is full at 570 thousand acre if he will feet and filled over the weekend. [inaudible] is spilling, eleanor is spilling and cal varus is coming up and may become a problem for the contractors area at cal varus because we are getting so much water in so fast we cant get rid of it. From a water supply front in the reservoirs this is looking to be a good year so far. I included a photo taken of hetch hetchy over the weekend. Nor normally you can see two sets of falls. Here you can see 4 and if you look close 3 other smaller falls so there is a lot of water up country now. In the precipitation chart shows that. The red line crept above the 1983 line which is the wetest in record. Not to say this is the wettest year but shaping up to be a wet year. At about 75 percent medium precipitation this year. Um, up country you see this month we already well exceeded sth medium total for the month year to date about 26 inches of 36 inch average total. In the bay area here we havent quite gotten to the average for this month but certainly it will break that for the week is out. There is no doubt about that. Because as you look at the forecast for the next two weeks where red is the higher areas of precipitation you see this week which is thtop chart and next week which is lower chart shows heavy precipitation over Central California and the sierra. The snow pack is above medium which is good. Last year we had a short snow pack but may catch up this year. It appears this weeks storms in snow elevation will drop to about 5 thousand week where it was about 9 thousand feet over the e weekend so see if the snow sticks. Water available to the city but on the next chart the water available to the city has come heavy and early this year. 373 thousand acre feet is what we expected we needed to make the system tote aelg full and we are well on the track to get above that. Lastly on the slide total deliveries, at 135 million gallons per day for the system a quick check before i came here, this is the lowest since 2005 and probably going back i suspect student the 88 through 92 drought. The current weekly demand is low in the whole service area. One note on this, the water control board is holding a workshop january 18th regarding exstense rfb drought reg ymgzs regulations and we will provide the storage numbers and inform of our storage situation in San Francisco. Happy to answer any questions. Thank you, commissionersgy questions . One not related to the topic. Going back to agm report. Why dont we wrap this up and before we get there. Anything else for mr. Ritchie . Any Public Comment on the water supply report . Thank you. Commissioner kwon. I want to make sure i heard you right. The clean power basic Green Program, is it still a little less in price and more green than pg e basic program . Barbara hail assistant general manager for power. It is better in quality, yes. It is a betterit is greener in that it has higher renewable content and better ghg profile. Less ghg emissions. The little bit higher is just inl the cost, so it is 1. 9 percent higher for our residential customer on their bill. Thank you. Youre welcome. Thank you. Any other Public Comment . Mr. Kelly. That concludes my report. Thank you. We move to item 8, which is i think what most people are here for and first of all, thank you for coming out on a rainy and stormy day to talk to us. One caution i would like to get is probably more directed toward myself than anybody else and that is that this iswe are early in the process of dealing with the challenge that is presented to us by the state and my own sense of that is it is not helpful to get overly positional at this point. What i would like to do and what is staff is prepared to do is to present the best dat a that we can at the moment, present as to what the state is proposing and the impacts on us could conceivebly be. That isnt a position and we are trying to get as close to fact as we can and we open up to Public Comment and welcome whatever comment you have. The head of the state board asked San Francisco to step up to the challenge. I like her and like that but dont know what it means and it will take a while to figure that out and to figure how to respond to so now the challenge we have anyway is to keep learning and our minds open and listening to everybody that has something to contribute to the discussion. That being said, let me ask mr. Ritchie to come up and do the first part of that and give us a good of picture he can as to what the state is ising of us. Steve ritchie assistant general manager and will make a minor apologize in the presentation is fairly dense because there is a lot of information here. First about our system and then about the states proposal and what we believe the effects of that would be and where should go. If i can have the slides please. As i will ask the commenters i will ask you to be as sus sinkt as you can. Qu will try hard. First this is a map of the bay delta system. If you look at the screen the optic yellow section there is the delta with the Sacramento River from the north and son joaquin valley. There is a little circle there noted where hetch hetchy reservoir. We are in the middle of that. We provide about 85 percent of the Regional Water system supply. It is unempaired flow is 1. 8 million acre feet per year on average. Average is what ill use in many cases to dif rirchiate from all years because those are two different things. We divert about 14 percent on average of the unempaired flow. The turlock and modesto divert 40port percent of the flow. The remaining 38 percent remains in the river. For reference in the dealty, San Francisco divert about. 7 percent of the unimpaired delta inflow similar to east bay mud and less by the Water Project and Central Valley project on thesicrimento and San Joaquin Rivers. This slide is one we use to describe our relationships with the irrigation districts. The hid row graph shown here over period 20 lane to 2016 shows the number of different year types. The higher the bars the more water there is. The lower the lines the less water there is. You see 2011 was a wet year. 2012 want too bad. 13, less. 14 and 15 were very dry years and 2016 started to become wet again. The dashed red line there is the irrigation districts maximum entitlement and the amount of rinch they can divert if the water is available. The gray sheeding within the hid row graf graph is the amount of water the districts can take. The green part above the line is the amoupt of water San Francisco can take. We take water when there is a lot of water and store it. We have a storage based system that relies on reservoirs so we threw extended droughts and that includes the reservoir jz water bank in don pedro so during the middle years when it was very dry we drow down the water bank and fed the irrigation district supply from the water bank and using up the storage to keep enough water for our customers in our system. It is poncht to note that we take water and really wet year jz use it through dry periods and that is how the system works for us. Stephen if i interrupt you. Do you know off hand the 2014 number we took out of the water . It is in the drought presentation. I think the water available to the city, 1 year was 50 thousand acre feet and the other was 22 thousand acre feet in terms och water available to the city. Thank you. I can lookit was 22,000 acre feet in 2014 and 50 thousand acre feet in 15. By contrast this year it is up to 270 thousand acre feet. Our water supply planning basically is driven by the storage fact by Drought Conditions and we have plenty of water in normal years but extended drought are the challenge. The Level Services objective isthe worst drought we experienced is what we plan for. With no more than 20 percent rationest of 265 million gallons a day and that comes from 184 million gallons a day we owe to the customers and 81 million gallons a day for San Francisco. The biggest problem and not knowing when the drought will occur so we need to plan each year as if it is beginning or middle of the brout drout manning samario. We projected shortages would occur about once every 10 years. Is that 20 percent shortages or just some type of shortage . That is some kind of shortage, yeah. One that gets into triggering effected drought scenario. The same time our customers water use among the lowest in the state. This covers june 20 sphene to may 2016 demd. San francisco resident use about 41 gallons per customer a day. When you mold with the whole sale customers the usage is about 52 gallons per person per day and state wide 82 gallons per person a day so san franciscans use half the water used in other residential areas in california. At the same time, we diversifyed the supply. Consurivation and adding ground watt toor the supply, recycled water we are getting ready to Start Construction on and non portable ordinance are areas where we try to stretch the envelope and find different ways to supply water. We are conversations to look at potential use of waste water for Drinking Water with 4 different water agencies. We approved a mou with one of those last month so looking a lot for Water Supplies but that doesnt mean we can turn on the tap and water magically appears. Briefly on the bay delta plan the state board is working on rsh they are charged setting Water Quality objectives to protect the beneficial use in it dealty. They proposed to update the 20076 delta plan first san joaquin and [inaudible] those effect us. There is a similar effort on the Sacramento River so looking at the entire system currently. Some of the recent history in 2012 the state water board released its original ceqa document for bay delta plan update and at that time they proposed requiring 35 percent of unempaired flow february through june to protect fish and wild life in all years. Opposed to on average, it will be every year. That is a issue that is very important to us. We provide comments at that time that they didnt analyze the effects that reduced hetch hetchy supply would have on us accept in a cursory fashion. We presented to them water supply and Socio Economic impacts nof 35 percent unimpaired flow at that time. From 2016 they have a revised proposal. Since 1971 looking at the recent data average unimpaired flow february through june is 32 bert and wet years over 60 percent, dry years 10 percent or less. What the state board is proposing now is require 40 percent from february through june every year whether wet or dry. The proposal include adaptive implementation with flows ranging from 30 to 50 percent so 40 percent is the starting point but maybe we want less or more. Also, recommends non flow measures should be pursued, which are Habitat Improvement said. Includes state of emergency change provisions without being clear what the state of emergency actually is and also includes very importantly a framework for accepting volunteer agreements that would meet or exceed objectives to protect fish and wild life so will come back to volunteer agreements. The state water board is working on a similar proproseal for the Sacramento River. On the 2016 revised proposal comments are due march 17, that is extended 120 days in two ichckriments from the original due date of november 15. Hearings began november 29 and concluded negative november 23. The state board is considering approving the amendments in august 2017. The big question is what is the proposal mean for us . Potentially impacts to the system can be very significant. We could be required to contribute 52 percent of the flow per the agreement with turlock and modesto districts. We have an agreement under certain conditions we are obligated to provide 52 percent of the required flow for fish. That would believe in all years . Um, 52 percent would apply to any flows. And then the 40 percent is all years . Yes, 40 percent is all years. Thank you. Yeah. So, if you take those thing synchronize to account, we would face increased rationing of 50 percent at normal or contract level of demands. Basically at 223 mgd which is our 2013 demand as we got into drought or 265 mgd we look at 50 percent rationing. At 175 mgd the current demand which is basically included in the mandated rationing from the state board we have to do additional 20 to 30 percent rationing on top of decreased demds. The notion we have shown how low we can go this proposal would cause us to go substantially below that for demand. We are at 10 or 20 percent below . About 20 percent below 2013 levels, this is in addition to that sph this is in addition to that. The number of dry year shortages would double or triple. One in 10 years under the lower demand probably double to twice in 10 years and 265 mgd that is 3 times every 10 years. The effects are substantial given our current supply situation. Without major investment and uncertain water supply projects because people talk about desalination and portable u. S. Of waste water are things that might be done but no slam dunks. Without significant investment we would not be able to meet the 184 million gallon a day obligation. San jose and santa clara wanted to be made permanent cut u cusmers and couldnt. East pal o alto growth is at risk. We talk about San Francisco providing supply or other customers providing supply to them so they can resume the growth that is pressing in their area. If we look at this big a supply cut that wont happen. Those will have major impacts for housing and jobs in the service area. The one place where i will break my own real as a responsible water agency we have to do everything we could to make sure that didnt happen. What you said is without major investment so what i think that says is we would be obligated to make the investments to make to make sure the service area is served. That is correct. That is the obligation as the provider. So our response to the 2016 proposal so far is we all need to take action for the fish, but we have serious doubts about the state water boards approach. We testified at the state water board january 3 public hearing and focus on the potential water supply impacts i mentioned here. Our doubts about the prosed benefits to fish and wild life and the results of major studies we performed for irrigation on better action for the environment. We believe you can introduce flow on the riv that have much more benefit than simply a flat number for a period of time. We do believe there are several opportunity we need to pursue with serious and realistic Adaptive Management and by that that means make an investment and monitor it for a period of time that is significant. You cant changing your mind year in and out because it didnt work last year and should try something next year and never learn gng that way so there neesds a serious knhiment to investing and understanding the system as well as managing it. We will be submitting written comments to the state water board. They are beeling developed in conjungz with bausta. Most importantly we are exploring the potential for volunteer agreements. We are working hard to move forward on some framework on that. We need to make progress quickly but all need more time to fully negotiate settlements. The reason is because settlements will not be easy. We think if we end up with a settlement to go forward, they will be painful and costly but better than the alternative. There will not be winners and losers, we are in this together one way or the other. The absence of settlements unpredictive litigation prolongs the Current Situation and wont help the environment or impacted communities. That is a quick summary of where we are and happy to answer any questions. Thank you. Commissioners, any questions before we get to public testimony . Lets do that. Thank you mr. Ritchie. We are blessed with a lot of people who want to speak to us today and our rules is you have 3 minutes to address us. I ask if you can be sus tinth that is appreciated but if you need or want to use the 3 minutes you will be able to. We do need to keep it moving so ill call out several names and if you can be prepared to step right up after the speaker before you was done i appreciate that. For our first speaker is sean sharpentay and forgive me for mangling names, itened to do that. It is nothing personal. For the record it is shurpentear. Very close. Good afternoon commission. Thank you sean shurpen tear assistant city manager in paulo alto and here to express the concern about the proposed regulation to the pu c system. East paulo alto operates within the region and san mateo county. We are a significant provider of Affordable Housing. We have. 2 jobs per employed resident and neighbors have three or two jobs per employed resident. We were born out of the desire to provide Affordable Housing in some ways and as a result 40 percent the Housing Stock is affordable due to Affordable Housing development as well as the strongest tenant kw rent controlled provisions in the state. We have dire concerns about the proposed regulation and have among the per capita lowest use of water among the bosca members and isg of 1. 9 mgd and in the last 10 years we used 95 percent of that on average and in some years we exceeded our isg. As a result, the city council is very involved trying to find new sources of water supply for the city. We updated our general plan and identified a need for 1. 5 mgd to be a leader in Affordable Housing development. As a result of the water shortage, we recently in july imposed a water moratorium on new or expanded water meters and as a result of that we stalled multiple projects critical to us and the region including 120 units of Affordable Housing two Office Projects and preeuvt school fully fupded and subsidized for east paulo alto residents. The concern if this goes through we dont know how to meet a 50 percent reduction. We are already at the Lowest Per Capita use and in addition this will make it difficult to acquire new supply within the bosca system if the water supply is reduced and for those reasons we support the staff recommendation and bosca recommendation to work with the state board and come up with a solution that is a benefit for urban per vaiers search as ourselves and the environment. I have copies the letter we submit today the water board and will give these to the clerk and that concludes my presentation. Thank you very much. Thank you and thank you for joining us. Nicole sancoola, peter dreck myer and martin [inaudible] good afternoon. Pleased to be here. Nicole sancoola, ceo for bosca. I did speak last week at the state board as well as part of the public hearing on the recirculated draft. I do have also copies of my comments that i gave the state board that day so donna can hand those out to you. I wont repeat them. I have spoken to you before so they are consistent along the lines with what i have been saying but i want highlight a few things and meant to pull up the map. Your presentation from your staff was very helpful. The first time i had seen many of the newest pieces of information about the impacts and i think you can also find it very helpful and the map that i pulled up is actually depicts the residential per capita use in the whole sale service area during the mandatory period that steve also referenced in his numbers. It shows the 26 agencies. There are a couple things i want to point out in what looks like a green color on your screen. Those are agencies whos residential per capita use is 55 gallons per day or lower. There are 10 of them and does want include city and county of San Francisco. The blue shows the residential use between 55 and 65 gallons per capita per day. As a average not with San Francisco but the bosca average of 60 in the mandatory period and comparing that to the state wide average of 82 really i believe as i look at this z spoke to the state board about really shows the commitment to long term conservation both fwhie agencies and customers and think that is a important thing that needs to be worked through because water reliability is important and part of the reason conservation is implemented to insure the reliability. With steve talks about the impacts this is a baseline and say from the residential use can you reduce 20 or 30 percent and think that is significant so we do support the work and staff and work on the settlement discussion and hope those will be fruitful because we see that as a best way to resolve this. Thank you. Thank you. Peter dreckmyer, martin gothburg and les ashler. Good afternoon president moran and commissioners. Thank you so much for ajndizing this item today. Wish we had a full commission but will take what we got. I have been very disappointed in information dissiminated bystaff and your last meeting december i commented on the fax sheet which to my understanding is still being distributed. I have a response here i like to share with you, 5 pages and i encourage you to ask your staff if there is anything in my response they disagrew with because we need to be on the same page and willing to have a dialogue about it. I was pleased last week that staff in presenting to the state water board didnt mention the figures they used before. They didnt use the inflated demind projections or Economic Impact. They didnt mention east paulo alto water issue. Bosca last year used 126 million gallons a day from the 184 cap. There is a lot of water available. It is allocation issue and there was no suggestion San Francisco may be cut down to 25 gallons per capita per day. All those are spelled in the document. I think it was a credibility issue and not just for the sfpu c it is who they are sharing information with. Im disaponted with mr. Sharpentears comments. For the two plus years i have met with City Council Members to explain the issue and drafted the calloges memo that put the issue of transferring water to east pal o alto and feel stabbed in the back by his comments but i dont blame him because he gets information from sfpu c staff. It is very interesting the last week turlock irrigation district has been dumping a lot of water to lower tuwallmy. Last year after a 4 year drought San Francisco Public Utilities commission captured enough water last 2 and a half years, this year it will fill up easily. There are benefit tooz the high flows but there is much better benefit if it was spread out through critical months of february through june and throughout the years. Had the fed been in place over the last few years this storm and this season would compensate for any deficit from higher flows. We have enough water in storage to last 6 years. I have lot more to share with you. The [inaudible] points out in a average year the sfpu c has the ability to capture 3 times as much water as it uses. That is in the document i sent you. I really encourage you to provide Leadership Today and direct staff to correct the record and work towards a real solution not just put down what is out there right now. We are willing to meet. We have the coilation bay area water stew ards. I have no response to my communication, it is all out and frankly disappointed. Nicole san coola is sending letters to Decision Makers that say my communications do not meet the flesh hold of fairness and professional responsibility. You know, this is just absurd. Thank you. Mr. Gothburg. Sorry illbecause im not a engineer, but i believe in open governance and Good Governance so i trust that whether it is true or not somebody feels like there is a problem with integrity or transparency and something we have to address because there is a lot of people in the audience right now and a lot of people want to see that it matters, so through the chair if it is not objectionable i like to see staff would provide us a memo in response to the memo that we just got from peter just so we can begin to figure what the facts are. I think now it is question of fact. Just a question of fact, but i dont know enough about it to really comment on, but i would like us to get a little bit of the assistance from staff on this item mpt not sure what form that should take. I agree with the sentiment on that. What we need to do is get facts out there that are incontvertible. You notice there were not some discussions there that economic numbers are difficult to interpret and it is hard to know how to put weight on them and that want part the presentation for that reason. I think we do need to respond to those issues and make sure the facts that are out there are solid and well defended. I think it will be more ideal for staff to be in a position to outline the issues. In this case you peter has basically outlined the issues that are of concern. I dont think that prohibits us from using that same format, so i will hang on to this document with the hope that staff will find the time over thecourse of the next few weeks to bullet point or address some of the concerns so we can show we are move thg ball. As part of that where there is a underlying issue, difference of point of view i think we can point out there is a difference of points of view so how you deal with projections of economic growth. The only reason i raise it is because i bleechck in the staff. The only reason i raise it is because once somebody truly believes we have a integrity problem then we shift gears a little bit and just try student to get more control and handle on it and if it is a question of strategy it is what it is. Fair enough. Mr. Gothburg. And then mr. Ceesler and also sarah curesh. Thank you members of the commission. Thaupg for placing the bay delta walter quality plan on the agenda and for the opportunity to speak. I appreciate your services through the sfpu c and other executive volunteer activities. By way of background im a consumer of hetch hetchy water at home and work. At home my family 4 or 5 sometimes uses less than 100 gallons a day, typically a lot lower than that. A Technology Comp where i work we identified ways to reduce water consumption. Every gallon we save could mean more there environment and understand that and that is my goal. My company has given me the time to be here today but i speak for myself. Im here to advocate for support for the bay delta plan which provides a greater flow from tributaries in the San Joaquin River and hope you support the plan and sfpu c can be a reliable partner advocating for healthy bay delta eco system. I ask this because of the sfpu c because i atepded the merced hearing and heard hatred for the state water control board and staff. I heard merced elected officials and farmers threaten to unlease the dogs of war, hound Board Members at their place of work and homes. Frankly i was disgusted by the threats and and information sited and my opinion i think inaccurate information is being provided to you. Has to be through staff at water, power sewer. I dont think we realize the benefits to california economy that will accrue through a healthy basin. Working together to better understand the data and issues can this understanding be acheebed. I back packed in the sierras all most every year for 50 years and seen the changes that have come about for damming rivers and diverse of water, years of drought have not helped so need this plan and reliable partner and insure the proper framework is in place so every gallon saved can benefit the environment. With the requirement measures flow at the proper time, increased deficiency and agriculture and business and homes we can include including salmon, steel head and greater eco system they support. Thank you again for listening and your service to all of us. Thank you. Cishmer. Sarah ruresh and bill martin. I have been given a note that alisa rod regage is here to sign up for clean pow cleanpowersf. My name is les cishler. The last 40 years i back packed in the high sierras around the san wukeen headwaterers one of californias most important sources of water. My daughter was born in San Francisco and son in law works in San Francisco. I live in the santa clara conte Water District. San Francisco Bay and delta is a important Natural Resource not only for what we humans can take out but also for the many other life forms that dependent on the bay and dealty who suffered over the years from the lands fills that deminsh the size of the bay and water diverted and export of the way. California is currently facing a problem. The problem is a delima that exists between a finite resource and a non finite interest in using that resource. The finite resource is the water in the San Francisco bay and delta. There are two major non finite interests in using that resource. One of these interests is corporate export agriculture in california central vala and looking for new ways to divert and export water away from the delta. The other non finite interest using the bay and delta is los angeles expanning urban and suburban growth and continued depend for more and more water. The plan is presented to build multibillion dollar tunnels that doesnt resolve the finite versus non finite that makes it severe. It is important the delima is recognized by all in the state including our legislature and public agencies. There is value if the San Francisco Public Utilities Commission Goes on record acknowledging this delima between a finite resource and non finite demand. If the pu c has already gon on record doing this it is to be thanked. Thank you. Thank you very much. Sarah curesh, bill martin and sydney leaves. Thank you, sarah curesh at the sill gone Valley Leadership group and appreciate the opportunity to speak today. The silicon Valley Leadership group represents more than 400 sill can valley employ rbs and provide one of every 3 private sector jobs in Silicon Valley and contribute more than 3 trillion to the world wide economy. The Leadership Group is committed to helping insure the region has access to safe, clean and reliable water it needs to remain vibrant while also protecting the environment. Many members in the region rely on inwaltzer from the toileomy river and need access to safe and secure water supply to operate the businesses. We are concernedads proposed the sed can result in immediate and mands tear cuts in the water supply of up to 50 percent during times of drought. This not only will effect Business Operations through potential sales and job losses, but also greatly reduce the availability of water to the employees of sth companies for the every day living. We strongly support the environmental goals and a stable and affordable water supply for the business. We are fearful a lengthy process will be costly and not lead to improvements we bl seek in the near future so we support the governors efforts to reach a voluntarysetalment between the various stakeholders as a way to develop a shared solution that provides water for the environment and business and communities. Bill martin, sydney leaves and will durwin. Thank you very much commissioners and thank you for adding this item to your agenda. Bill martin and lived in San Francisco since 1972 and been a direct customer the sfpu c since 1979. I attended the january 3, 2017 meeting oen the bay delta plan in sacramento and heard a raisk of view points. I will read quotes from a editorial published in thesicrimento bee on january 6 by a farmer named walt shoeman. I felt mr. Shoemans comments were echoed at the january 3 meeting. Mr. Shoeman writes i watch for decades as [inaudible] took every last drop of water and left many miles of the stailt second largest river dry. I saw how farm run off polluted with pesticides representing the lions share of the rivers flow. These conditions led to the san joaquin named americas most endangered river in 2014. It is isnt too late to revive the tributaries and fisheries but it will take more than returning 40 percent of the flow which isnt enough of a change from the status quo. Only a third of the water now reaches the san joaquin delta. Scientist from fish and wild life agencies Conservation Group jz water board agree it will take 50 to 60 percent the flow to do the job. I use this quote because i saw the presentations of the calt department of fish and wild life, u. S. Fish and wild life and Marine Fishery services. These groups are united calling for 60 percent. Calling for studies and charts and data supporting their positions. They emphasized it took many years of low flows to create the conditions for the pelagic organism decline happening throughout the est ware. It may take many years of higher flows of the echo system to recover. Habitat restoration efts such as increase use of flood plains for bet rb salmon growth requires higher flows to be successful. The commission, your commission now has a important leadership role. The science is clear, higher flows are a critical piece the recovery. Police work with the water board to make it happen and thank you very much. Thank you. Sydney leaves. Will durwin and [inaudible] sydney leaves a resident of south sumateo countsy. Water decisions made by the board have consequencess for the health of the San Francisco bay and upstream echo systems by virtual of the Significant Impact upon decisions that have upon the decision they upon the percentage of natural water flow mandate frg the San Joaquin Rivers. Mindful of diverse interest involved i can only urge and support your giving careful and caring consideration to the data and please of informed voices deeply concern ed about there eclogical health of the bay. Thank you. Will durwin, chris chute jz shar lean woodcock. Good afternoon. Ill be brief for the sake of our time. Will dirwin and bay area native and depend on hetch hetchy water. I support the prose poll because i believe it is imperative to increase flows in the delta. The bay delta has habitat for over 500 species. It is a major stop over for the fly way and path way for salmon and steel head. In 2010 determined 60 percent of unempaired flows between february and june is necessary to protect the fish and wild life. As you know currently much less than half of the flows from the sierra reach sth bay. To not have a healthy bay telt delta that supports the fish and wild life will hurt us and our future generation jz for that reason i urge you to support the plan. Good afternoon. Chris chutes with cam sport fishing protection alliance. This is the first time appeared before you but been involved in the toileomy since 2008 and delta flow issues since 2010. Before my time cspa California Sport Fishing Protection Alliance was signatory to 1996 settlement agreement. In 1996 the maximum anual flow requirement established for the river was just over 300 thousand acre feet per year, about 15 percent of the rivers average annual flow. The settlement placed most of the emphasis on non flow measure. Some of enmeshers were implemented. More were not in part for lack of fund and in part because no one seemed willing to spepd more money when the first few projects didnt seem to be effective. We tried the non flow measure 20 years ago. 15 percent of the average anual flow will not get the job done no matter how much gravel you move or how many pits in the riv you fill in. I like to reference respectfully mr. Ritchies caumpt that 37 percent the water is left in the river. That isnt accurate. 15 percent is allocated to the river. If the is additional water of that 37 percent much is retained in storage unless there are flood flows, transfers or other kind of specific uses for which water is designated. In 2009, the citys representative told Administrative Law judge to increase flows will cost millions of dollars in bay area impact in drought. Greater flows cant work during a drought therefore nothing could be done about increasing flows any time at all. Part one of the argument was inflation of impacts, part two, using the worst case to crush all flow arguments. It isnt on a honest argument and the state board in my opinion having been at most of the hearings recognized thisism considering what happened during the last drought the prediction of bay area impacts doesnt pass the smell test and 52 percent of impacts assigned to the city is a worst case, not a gibbon. Part one of a better approach is modify the state boards framework to create special rules for flows during critically dry and multiple try sequences. The board is willing and so are other stakeholders. Part 2 is define division of responsibility between the city and districts. One last point if you like to negotiated outcoming you need to the key players in the room there is a confidentialty agreement. A non disclosure agreement will protect everyones interest. I request that you use your influence to get people in the room are whoo are necessary for alagreement. Thank you very much. Thank you. Shar lean woodcock. Hello. Shar lean woodcock and born and raised in Southern California and learned early on that was aired country and water was essential and it was essential to conserve and value it very highly and of course we have seen decades of development in this state unmindful of the essential value of water. I have great concern for the delta, which is dying and it has been left where inadequate water flows for some years now and as a couple of people have mentioned in 2010 the state water board issued a report called development of flow criteria for the sacramento san joaquin eco system that suggested 50 percent of unempaired flow is what is needed if the delta repairs itself and the salmon fisheries will recover. It is horrifying for me to see salmon fisheries dying in california because water is issued carelessly. The delta is essential to californias economy, a healthy delta and the fisheries and plants and animals the salmon eco system support are essential to the health of the whole state economically, but i would say spirit wale too in a sense. We want our salmon fixries to thrive, not be sackifyed to industrial agriculture profit s. Now the large Central Valley farmers have way too much influence over californias water and think that has got to change. It seems clear there is a allocation problem especially with east palo amento because i believe pal o alto has abundance of water and there is a lot of extravagant use of water in some Water District jz that surely needs to be addressed in a different way. Where will just say i hope you can take a long view and support not just a 40 percent flow through the delta which is inadequate but a higher level. Thank you. Thank you very much. Tom schwartzsharf. Hello. My name is tom swartsharf and scrabackgrounds in biology. Coming from the governor special Interest Groups or political arena this is what im hearing. Dont confuse this with the facts, we already made up our minds. The message is clear, we dont value your input. [inaudible] offered as a recommendation. Everyone has heard of Climate Change deniers. We have delta change deniers. These are folks that deny the delta and bay area are in a state of biological clapsh. They declie water flow and human activities are factors. Im concerned about the salmon population destroyed and nearing extinction. Native american cultures and sport fishing are suffering ing. We have a larger number of water expert izen california than any other place in the world. We need to stop wasting money and man power on the twin tunnels and complete the resources to continue the bay delta walter Quality Control plan in 2017. Knowing the Scientific Community in inepa frl biologist the stailts university and environmental agencies isnt the answerment we are losing the eco system that made this the golden state. We need to stop circumventing the democratic process to not letting citizens vote on issues like the twin towers. The delta in San Francisco [inaudible] special treatment as a state and national treasure. Im not hearing people tray saccharify the Water Resources to grow a multicultural [inaudible] thank you for your time, [inaudible] thank you. Peter [inaudible] the president of the john mure east bay chapter. Trout unlimited is conserve, protect and restore north americas cold Water Fisheries and watersheds. The chaptert supports the state Water Resources control board in the effort to help farmers, commercial and recreational fixerman, water users and environment groups cooperate on increasing river flows in the rivers. As a student in the 1960s i fished the toileomy in the high country and lower river prior to complooasian of the don pedro dam. At that time the flouz in the river were much higher than today. A kid from western pennsylvaniai worked as a Civil Engineering in consulting and now retired. My wife and i live in oakland and conserve water. I disconnected my irrigation system during the rainy system roof run off is diverted to the garden. I wash my car as a car wash which recycles the water. I converted the concrete driveway to gravel. My water usage is about 42 gallons per person per day. These are small steps and big picture surrounding the issue but small steps can help. Im not alone. As you have seen in steves presentation, many in the bay area are doing what im doing and more. I would argue that urban Water Conservation is a Sustainable Movement and provides a opportunity for the San Francisco Public Utility Commission to reevaluate its very very conservative drought storage scenario taking into account reduced demand and more reasonable assumptions. Partner with state board to increase flows and aquatic habitat in the toileomy river. Heinicke alburt. Thank you very much. Like toprint you these 296 letters from members of the sierra club in the bay area chapter and im speaking for those members today. What we ask you to do in this letter is to support the higher flows that our rivers and the bay need in order for them to restore this beautiful habitat. And it asks you to put this item on the agenda today and want to thank you very much for giving us this opportunity to talk about this important issue. In three minutes i cant begin to cover everythingall of the facets of this, but let me just point on a couple of things. You pointed out the low per capita use of citizens in San Francisco and more widely in the bay area and that is true and that is really adimable. I think we have been glad to do that because we value the environment. Of course we value having the water. We need the water, but i believe that people have stepped up in the past when we needed to ration water because of the drought and we can continue to do that. Further more, the city during the past year has instituted new policies in terms of reuse of water at large buildings and even requiring onsight treatment of water to have it be reused. With those innovation and public support we have here for preserving our environment we can step up and meet this challenge. We want to be Good Environmental stewards and i believe that is what you want also. The orebt other thing is the question of coming to a negotiated settlement rather than a one size fits all rule imposed by sth state. My understanding of the process is the science that the state had done very clearly said 60 percent. This already is a negotiated settlement. The 40 percent starting point, thats not the full wish list, that is already the compromise. I urge you to support the state water board in these efforts and i believe all working together we can have the water that we need and the healthy environment. Kenneth gibson, ulgu[inaudible] and Michael Frost. My name is Kenneth Gibson and live in oakland. I lived in the bay area most of my life. I lived on the peninsula and San Francisco and now in east bay mud territory. I expect all of you sfpu c, all the agencies and east bay mud to show leadership in this state on this iges issuement this is our bay and we have a obligation to protect it. We have been destroying it for the last century or more and need to turn that around. So much of the discussion from staff is focused on what we use and obligated to provide. Qu cannot believe that you have contracts with all the agencies that go into perpetuity for you to deliver 184 million gallons per day. I just cant believe that. I cant believe there is no [inaudible] or reason to adjust those obligations. I think you need to sit down with all those agencies and coordinate with other agencies in the state to really look at what people can get by with to preserve the other requirements of the water system in the state. We have among urban agencies a established practice of tiered pricing. It is like nobody talks about that. You got 2 or 3 tiers here and 3 ourfore there, a couple have 7 tiers. You get 25 gallons per person per day at the lowest tier. If you go above that you are in the next tier. Once you are over 50 you are in the third tier and each time it steps up by a percentage. A agency sets what that percentage will be and that will sceez down the use by rez kelsh cusmers and hopefully that can be made to apply using smart meters and made to apply to all residential customers not just single families behind the meter. Provide meters for your family. This concept needs to be pushed into the employment sector. Why should silken valley customer and banked some of the companies years ago, why should they pay a flat rate no matter how much water they use. If they provide a job they should get a low price for a small amount of water and that should multiply in tiers so eventually they are paying more than would cost to provide recycled water and finding new ways to save water. You motivate people through micro economic practices. That is what we need to do. Thank you. Thank you. Ulgumander son, Michael Frost and tally ben tar elguman deuceo and grew up in San Francisco. Did any of you grow up in San Francisco . No i didnt grow up in San Francisco. I grew up in San Francisco but moved here in my 20s. That isnt exactly what i meant. Anyway, the water wars have been a part of my life. I red cadlic desert as a kid and now retired and the lexry coming to meetings like this. For support this at least 50 percent of the flows for the rivers go to the bay delta. I think that is really reasonable. Others say 60 percent i say at least 50 and think we can like we are a technology center, right . Silicon valley wants to make sure they have enough waterthey can figure it out. They got all the technology. They got all these great people and can figure it out as can the industrial ag business people. They have tons of money. The Property Owners and business people. They can Harness Technology to fig yor how to make due on the water. Thanks a bunch. Bye. Thank you. Michael frost, tally ben tar and dave warner. Thank you very much. I want to take a minute to step back a little back and try to get our minds in more high level place. As we look at this old environmental term, the crisis and opportunity. We are in a crisis. I wont repeat what is already said, buti think our crisis is that we have bad assumptions. We have all kind of incorrect assumptions that were created decades if not centuries back and our world changed significantly. We make water reliability assumptions. Water is terrible unreliable in california and if you go back over 2 thousand years multiple droughts over a hundred years 50 to 80 years common place. Do we take into account ocean acidity and how that may effect what we do qu how much fresh water is in the ocean . Do we calculate the cost of algae blooms in the delta with too much exported . We talk about salinity, do we analyze the salinity coming from westlands . We always think about salinity from the ocean but when we water the salty areas from the south and comes to the san joaquin that is a issue. What is good where we are now, we are early in the process and have time to analyze what we are doing. Lets take a look at the dta in a different way. We have all the data. One example would be the cunaria and cole mine, not one smelt was cocked. The cunario in the cole mine is non existent and do we charge ahead or do we take this queue . I read a book called, a short history of progress by Ronald Wright and he talked about a progress trap which is situation with 20th century innovation create new Problems Society is unwilling or unable to solve and it inadvertently creates conditions worse than what existed before the innovations. One example is [inaudible] massive irigation, over grazing, clearing land. Fast forward centuries we have what we have today that used to be covered with trees. That was a example and Easter Island was another with the forest pulled in the rain and created animals and things for them to eat but over time you cut down tree tooz build boats and statues and dams and they cut the very last tree down and became a waste land and ab wn got on boats and left. We dont have anywhere to go. We are here the San Joaquin River supports life in a delta that can not support salmon steel head and smelt or provide clean Drinking Water or groundwater or irrigation water. We need to mitigate against the unforeseen costs. 60 percent. Thank you. Hello commission. I am a San Francisco native and deeply concerned about the environmental state of the bay delta and all its tributaries. I am here to remind the commission of its water enterprise Environmental Stewardship policy. It states, it is our policy to operate the water system in a manner that protects and restores native fish and wild life. The sfpu c acts as a leader in science based and collaborative Environmental Stewardship. I am disaopponented to hear the sfpu c comments which seem to disregard their own policy. They are prioritizing economics over sounds science which determined 60 percent of unimpaired flows is necessary to protect and restore native fish population. Iu the commission to act as a leader it claim said to be and set 50 percent unimpaired flows. Fair is fair. Thank you. Thank you. Dairfb warner. It is honor to be in front of you today. Thaupg for your stewardship of our water supply. I have been a 30 year pal o alto resident and libing in San Francisco for a number of years. I number one say please take fulisha marks up on the lead ership role. The first is going back to the peter dreck myer comment. As a finance guy i think you can support whatever numbers you want so the one thing i ask your staff is say not only explain the differences and have different points of view brut come up with numbers that are plausible and i think you already disregarded the Economic Impact numbers. It is not plausible given what we have seen in the economy this last year and given the conservation we had to do. Point two is, i think other people have said the state water board did a bunch of resurs and sciencetist have come up and said settlements are not efficient and why the water board says we need to increase the flows. I dont anyhow how you get comfortable with that but encourage you to rely on their science or review the science on settlement that isnt sufficient. It is unfortunate we are a part of a environmentally damaged area that salmon are all most extinth and it is something we need to deal with and emplor that you fiend ways to deal with them in a adequate way. Thanks very much. Thank you. Thank you. Im spreck rose cranz and speaking on behalf of restore hetch hetchy. We dont have a spinge recommendation for a target flow. We respect the state boards duty in administering the very difficult problem. Before i pile to a few of the earlier comments i want to say that you commissioners and all the staff and mr. San coola you have a very honorable and essential job and it is because you do such a good job we want you to do a better job protecting the environment as well. However, in 2013, i sat in the state water Board Hearing when staff presented the draft report. You heard that from Steve Ritchie earlier and i have some concerns about the hid row logic assumptions involved but the economic assumptions were egregious and unwarranted and commissioner moran you spoke to that earlier when you said we wouldnt let that happen, we would make investments to make changes. When you do submit comments to the state board i urge you to think about what those comments might look like, what you would actually do if the flow increased to 40 or 50 percent or Something Like that. As you all know, you are not the first water agency asked to reallocate water to the environment. 92, the central vala project impruchbment act, 94 the mono lake decision, 94 the bay delta accord, 2007 and 8, the indaijered species act. 2000 the Trinity River decision. Some of that effected mostly ag customers and others urban and seen invest in local groundwater storage and you have done a great job in cole mu and the western part of the city but more can be done. Some of the customers have not done as much. There is water recycling and other options out there and so when you comment to the state board you should comment on those things. The [inaudible] report from 2013 and dont think it is officially published, it said that the impact in a drought would be losing 118 thousand acre feet a year is 49 billion in a drought. That is over 400 thousand per acre foot and there are a lot of things you can do for 400 thousand a acre foot so c50e7 keep that in mind. Thank you. Just to be clear on what i meant by the economics, economics is called the dismal science and for good reason. It tries to take very complicated functions of Human Behavior and reduce them a single number and it is a invitation to argue. Thats not to say that Economic Impacts are not real and i didnt my comments to be dismissive of Economic Impact, it is just Economic Science doesnt ovcontribute positively to a discussion. It may give a measure how big a task and how much money you spend to fix it, but it isnt worth the trouble arguing at least in my view. That isnt to say it isnt real. Lia rogers, dug good afternoon. My name islia rogers and worked 3 decades in the field of Water Resources and here as a priferbt citizen. And do have a phd from stanford in groundwater. Luckily speaking late most people have already said what i was going to say just two really quick points that i hope perhaps you may ask when you obviously are going back into the Group Economic modeling question. I didnt see any history matching. I made my livling from Predictive Modeling for 20 years and dont think i have seen people present predict sk modeling without matching the history. They must have done it 1345ir and think it is yusful for us to see if and you all to see it and obviously 2014 has been a while and particularly the last fwo two years where we were under 30 to 40 percent water rationing will be very interesting to see how well they are modeled matched those years before you all make any decisions that incorporate these numbers. Just to make sure i get what you are saying, what models are you roughering to the 2014 battle group socioeconomic modeling is the one i was looking at. Perhaps you have additional ones that have such history matching but i didnt see it and was plety shocked. The second is a question of whether or not their coefficient of elas tasty benefit the Water Conservation. We spend about 20 percent of our in california mubing water to other parts of the state. The hetch hetchy aqueducts is pretty darn efficient system but the rule of thumb if we save money we save water we save water and energy so have money to invest in our economy and culture so curious to see how they incorporated those benefits. Cunary in the cole mine was spoken about. Let me just say if our rivers thrive we thrive. One perhaps perspective i have about it is it is our way to regularly invest in our groundwater. 25 percent higher valium than our surface water and think that is what we will look towards in scenarios of Climate Change. Thank you. Thank you. Dou g obeejy, arthur finesteins senior attorney with Natural Resources council moved from Southern California and part of the reezern i move today the bay area is the pride we take in protecting the environment. I i want to impress the importance of really understanding the issues at a staff level. You have seen earlier how much disagreement there is between the walter agency staff and members of the public including nrdc about the impacts whether the impacts only occur in critically dry years as the state water board estimates or occur every year which seems to be implied by the statements. I encourage you to direct staff to meet with the public and hold a workshop prior the the march deadline to have a shared understanding what the impacts will be. Secondly, nrdc believes quee can protect the environment and our local economy and think a lot of the focks is on per capita water use but ignores the water supply tools San Francisco is moving forward with whether that is the groundwater banking project to help get through drought years or recycling waste water. In 20s 14 the bay area trumped 180 thousand water into the the treatment plants. That is a renewable resource and need to think of that as a resource not a waste protect. We cant just focus on conservation but it is clear we can do more than what is in the economic assessment. They did their assessment based on higher levels of demand than the city has shown is possible. We can do more and should do more. We have a morbl obligation to protect the rivers and fishing industry that is the heart of San Francisco Fishermans Warf which is decimated by years and taking 90 percent out of the toileomy is not a river and can do better. I implor you to direct staff to meet with us and let us work on Long Term Solutions because we can make this work and believe there are possibilities for settlement but settlements have to be meaningful and mean imprubing water flow in the rivers because if we whipe out the salmon population in dry years we never build up the populations in the long run. Thank you for your time. I appreciate you scheduling the meeting and hope you will call back before the march comments so we have a better understanding what the agency will say to the state water board. Arthy finestein, [inaudible] and rachel trugairoes. Hi commissioners. Artha finestein representing the sierra clubs california conservation committee. Im vice chair. It is very [inaudible] recallier today we had a discussion of cca and green power and how successful that has been. I think all of you ear most of you are in the commission during the 3 to 4 years when the sierra club and many others came before you to encourage the city to adopt cca and remember the difficulty we had being told we caents afford it. It wont work. It is just not feasible. Where are we . Complete 100 percent turn around, 80 thousand people is that the number who are now enrolled kwr more and more coming only and going towards cca. Same thing here. There is a lot of denying we cant do it, a lot of facts and given facts why we cant do it and gibbon facts now why we cant do it for water. It can be done. You just have to have the will and we are here urging you to take that will. I think it is from my perspective at least we dont have a lot of choice. With Climate Change we see the world is getting to be a scary place. 6 mass extingzs species going out every day. The world is getting scary. I have a grand daughter and would like her to sur vive but not sure it will happen. If you look at what the scientist who most of us do listen to say about Climate Change and rising sea levels, it is a scary world that she will be looking at and need to do watt we can and this is something that effects the Natural World which is what we all depend on and talking about today. We need healthy echo systems in the face of Climate Change so people have a chance. You have a great opportunity to take a big step forward so urge you to at least support the state water boards proposal and if we can go further that is great. 60 percent is wonderful but lets at least get to 40 percent and make for a healthy est ware and hope we sur vive the next 30, 40, 50 years but it is scare aef world and you can help make it less so. Thank you. Thank you. Michael [inaudible] rochel [inaudible] and ben ikeenburg. Rainy day here. Im michael waurbenturn and executive director of a nonprofit called the Public Trust Alliance and we have taken on our mission reminding public agencies that there is a whole area of law that requireslegal requirement to actually be reasonable and use the best Information Available when you are dealing with the allocating public trust resources. Water is such a resource. A lot of the people appearing before you act as if they own the water. Some people encourage you to believe that you own some of this water. Water rights are about the reasonable use of water for public benefit. It is held in public trust by the state of california by the brft of all the public and that includes future generations and there is a unique obligation with wrard to the fisheries resources because thats where a lot of the law was put together. Three public trust uses are commerce, navigation and fishing and anyway, the amount of work that seems to have been put in by Commission Staff arguing against what the state Water Resources control board has invited you to join in um, becoming a leader withsome people come in saying we got to have 60 percent. State board figured my god, lets just see if we can do this with a 40 percent amounts of flow and um, it is possible and the thing is historically speaking there is a lot of statistics here and i want to take my queue from a author who lived in San Francisco by the name of mark twain who says whiskey is for drinking and water is for fighting over and there is three kinds of facts. There is lies, dam lies and statistics and the other one that is often used is we all know that water does want flow uphill, but in california you get much better results if you assume it flows uphill towards money. The thing is, it is possible to do a lot better and a lot of times arguments before Public Utilities commissions are asking you to do unreasonable things because the law requires it. They just happen to help out the party who is making the suggestion in the short Term Economic interest and i just was hoping that you wo
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