Support the production on the support, you know, what other things, what about the interest of the use and then the thats being neglected by the United States and by the way, our student protests erupt in greece and the government has an out universe is all set through been filled by new Campus Police force for this, you do have gathered to demonstrate the capital of athens and demanding a drop down on the presence of these on University Grounds holding flags and banners, the chances slogans against the police and the governments decision. To the protest, please use the water cannon to gas and shields the order of the government and use the life force of the house. Weiss but unrest among students with protests taking place across the nation. Well, the news, our Technology Dot com for more International News and join us on the hour. We have to see that with ah, i hello and welcome to cross stock. Were all things are considered. I am Peter Lavelle as winter approaches. Some cold realities are setting in the west sanctioned war against russia has failed. It is the west that is feeling the economic pain and ukraines Energy Infrastructure is slowly being degraded. Common sense would dictate a major re thing for these people in power. That is inconceivable. Ah, cross sucking ukraine, im joined by my guess, matthew aaronton month, a month trail. He is a senior fellow at the American University of moscow and director of the Rising Tide Foundation of canada and where we have anthony webber. He is an independent, political commentator and in los angeles we cross soupy and he is a Strategic Planning consultant. A private equity advisor and an independent economic analyst, or a gentleman cross stock rules and effect. That means you can jump anytime you want. And i always appreciate pie. Im going to go to you 1st in los angeles because youve got up earliest for this program and its much appreciated by all of us here, lying with you. In the broadest sense, what is really at stake here because we have all of these apocalyptic pronouncements coming about, you know, we joe biden with his loose talk about armageddon, which is completely disgraceful and a responsible. And then we have a figures like joseph burrell. I of the, the e, u foreign policy, chief of stilton bird, the head of the, of nato saying, you know, a defeat for a victory for russia is a defeat for the collective west. My words. Okay. Paraphrasing here. Its very apocalyptic on, on one side, what is at stake here because it looks to me that the west is afraid of being humiliated. Go ahead in los angeles. Well, ukraine, 1st of all, ukraine, as natos sacrificial lamb, toward essentially preventing not just russian. This is forgotten in western press, or does tactically omitted not just russian but wider eurasian economic come up. And its against essentially, you know, over a century and a half of trans atlantic gemini, regardless of how fiscally teetering that a gemini might be at the moment of just wanted to make a note. This isnt a forbidden information within any sort of western press regarding russia and to address the issue of wider stakes regarding russian no one in mainstream corporate atlanta says press is allowed to ask simple questions such as, just why warrant gorbachevs yelled sin, or even putin from 1999 until about 2003 considered the penultimate evil on earth, why putin and russia since then. The answers because the kremlin decided to outpace Anglo American energy. That as far as its resource book of the past 160 years by relying on its innately vast pools of oil and natural gas for projecting economic power, yet it was john d rockefeller. Who infamously said that, quote, unquote, competition is a sin. Hence, this manic drive for regime changing moscow back into ideally a drunken and nap them, thus western compliant yeltsin figure, or better yet of alo de mir tony montana as zalinski figure, while splitting russia ideally into pieces and appropriating its resources. Once again, that steaks have never been higher for the ruling, trans atlantic occult establishment elite who are at this point willing to sacrifice billions of people, if necessary, to retain and scale their political, economic, technocratic, and metaphysical power. They collectively make dr. Strange look, dr. Strange love looked like mister bean. If they were to add, add flesh to what i just said here, go back to the history of the yukos affair and thats where all started. Pie is absolutely right. Boons, a refill farmer. Hes a westerner and then the yukos of air happened, and its been downhill ever since because rushes of protecting its Economic Resources primarily energy. Matthew, let me go to you because weve heard all of this talk now. No negotiations, no not. You dont give up one inch of ground all of this here, which is actually a signal that okay, fine, we dont need to negotiate. Were going to end this the hard way. And the in the west is saying, and they already know that ukraine probably cant win this, but theyre going to continue to support its. Its a war effort here. I mean, this is absolutely idiocy and nonsense. And his pie is pointed out, the billions of people around the world are going to be impacted or are being impacted by this. Go ahead, matthew. Yes, as, as Lindsay Graham famously recently said, the weird, theyre willing to fight to the last ukraine, and thats great. They really just see the people who live in ukraine has just your cannon fodder. And this is really coming out loud and clear is as it speaks right now. I think that what were facing right now is a logic of scarcity. The, the finance, your oligarchy, that is trying to manage and contain control of the multi polar alliance, which is emerge in russias, obviously a key player. And that are desperate that a new type of system is going to be brought on line that his premise around abundance in the creation of free energy that will not justify the type of mo lucien population reduction that they desire. And they have been working towards this for many decades. And thats why they sort of want to go back in time to the 1990 s, and just reverse the clock and pretend that the beltran initiative didnt exist. Duration Economic Union did not exist. And unfortunately, ukraine has been playing a joke, political role as a d Stabilization Force in that process, but its a plaything. Theyre willing to dispose of the People Living in ukraine as much as theyre willing to ultimately dispose of the People Living in europe or in the United States. Because the, the lease currently checking the technocratic elites, are completely psychologically more emotionally, intellectually detached from the citizens. That they are supposed to represent, theyre willing to sacrifice them. I would, i mean, i would even go further there ideologically possess. Thats why they cannot see other options or ideologically possessed people. And theyre all interchangeable, arent they . You know, it doesnt really matter which one leader it is, they can be moved over to another country equipment because what we have a ruling class that, you know, they talk about diversity, but theyre all exactly the same. They may look different, but they are all exactly as m. Anthony is something thats already been mentioned. The program i think is really important, is that russia and countries that are remained friends and aligned with a friendly with it. They represent an alternative to the west and the west cannot accept that. They cannot accept that anyone else can do, do it better because the, the west is failing and thats why we have so many countries around the world that will not condemn russia for the, for the military operation in ukraine. Go ahead, anthony. Yes, thats correct. He said, i have to concur with whats written said say fall i, if you look at the situation regarding my media and sexy and the u. K. Is absolutely impossible to have them. So if you are recording craig, its actually the golf course. Its both list to the course weve had the situation where does it matter which Prime Minister is empower whether it is or a strong civil list strauser or a stranger becoming next i dont just a book the policy on the train under course theres these big calls for general election of the u. K. I learned, behold the like the policy of going to exactly the same policy on the crane and russia, a disaster situation. And do they ever asked the people of you . Right, well i shouldnt, they have a referendum about what they went to and the war because i suspect a lot of them do. Im sorry. Yeah. Ok. Let me go to los angeles here. A pie after everything weve seen, particularly since february 24th. Is there any way going back, because, you know, there are these people, a lot of them are libertarians to, for some reason, things, you know, we just go back to the minutes, go chords, you know, that can be a point of reference. I mean, i think these people are all delusional. I think bridges have been cut. I think a deep chasm has created here. And there are countries like india, russia, china, that have no interest in going back to what was before, because it didnt work for them. So why should they reconsidered . And on top of it, all of these western leaders with their smiles and dangling shiny Little Things in front of your face, they dont keep their word actually, they lie a lot, go head by. I mean, theres no way to go back because theres been a farce as far as the, the story line. Certainly since, as early as 2008 with the Global Financial crisis with that permanently did was shift so much of the western middle class that had built over decades prior since the 2nd world war out of gear. And hence why you have homeless strewn across. Otherwise, tony suburban laws, lawns across america and north america. I just so you know, thats why i mentioned earlier. The stakes are massive because the entire eurasian east and certainly the global south are on to the facade and are trying to circumvent. And what has been essentially trans atlantic economic hedge. A monic rule, a for quite a while, this quickly a note on tactics here, a regarding a, russia, 11000 sanctions have been applied against russia since february since the start of the war. If spectacularly boomerang, because you cannot sanction such a massive Global Energy provider without essentially collapsing your own brittle house of cards, fiscal house of cards, eventually the russian rouble is the strongest performing currency of 2022 out pacing what it was before. Sanctions russians of earn 200000000000. 00 and Energy Exports since february despite lock trade elsewhere like the east needs to really do some sober soul searching over what its trying to do. Its, you know, matthew, its one of the and, and i have to say and i up my, my road record about talking about the what would become this conflict and what they would conflict became i have to have that down almost perfectly except for one thing that pi mentioned, i got the rubel thing completely wrong because before february 24th, it was a soft currency. Now its a hard currency. Amazing. Yeah, no, absolutely. And, and i mean, if anything, its driven more nations of the multiple or alliance of eurasia into each others arms and have the nation like china, india, russia, weve already been moving in towards a very strong brotherhood, have only doubled down now. And i mean, india is now buying what, 8 times more energy, 9 times more fertilizers from russia than they were the same time. Last year, chinas boomed, theyve, theyve made up for all of their losses to europe and put his has recently said as well, okay, its, its, its not, its a, its on you. The ball is in your court. All you have to do is turn on the chaps were even willing to provide all of the energy you need and more through even turkey, if you want there still viability in parts of the, the north stream to that could supply the vital needs of european. So i think are getting massive exhaustion right now over the ukraine propaganda, and they only wants to provide this winter and beyond and have a life. Thats what your average citizen wants. But russia and china and india are providing an actual method on how to actually do this competently and oh, were running out of time. I mean, its the chances to actually get on board with this and avoid world war 3 or at least avoided a dark age scenario in the west is, is on our, the west is on, on trajectory of d industrialization. And there seem to be a lot of people on board with that, and i get nobody asked the people of europe if they would vote on such a thing. But thats what theyre getting me to talk a little bit more about how Energy Politics in green politics have become a perfect storm. Gentleman, im going to jump in here. Were going to go to a short break. And after that short break, well continue our discussion on ukraine staying with our team. A committee look on your bill says that its not with loan. You do state williams, share it to you and i was, i dont know much about with with a 2nd. Im going into for auction year when using the checklist. People it guy, reason joy, your call now to best and wait. A studies from which a lot of dental prescription, blue a california initial, you want to pull up a post on a diaz can use the put body. What would you do or change . But you also still listed on those of you a what i see the student both. There is no group you motivation says decent a help. Ah, welcome back. Across stock were all things are considered on Peter Labelle term and you were discussing ukraine with okay, go back to anthony and more than its really quite interesting to me how the conflict in ukraine is a dovetailed in with this new green deal that so many of the leads are pushing here that nobody gets to vote on by the way. Nobody ever votes on this. Okay. But the ukraine issue is a pivot for them to get this agenda on board because its an emergency here. You know, im a green purse. I like nature and all of that, but anthea, could you explain to me the boneheaded nis of europeans saying or does get no more russian gas, we dont want it, its evil gas. Ok, i mean, these people are not thinking pragmatically fine, you know, over years, new technologies, all. Thats nice and fine. Now they want it, they really want a quick departure from this blowing up the pipelines north stream. Pushed it along here. I mean, i cant see a future of europe having any kind of productivity with no cheap energy, anthony, how can you explain that . Well, the reality is, of the previous position with russia was that she assisting the green agenda. And now i think hes pushing it now because economically, it just doesnt work. Well they all say pushing on the safe and Dangerous Nuclear power as an alternative to energy. So its all a complete or catastrophe. And ninetys been austin, although in hungary i own going to have a referendum on sanctions against russia. In the u. K, there is a can say a referendum on the big neutral in the russia. You credit con, thanks. Its been completely no phone by literally all the mainstream media. So thats a, were up against the complete propaganda on this, on this issue. So, but i think these things which are happening, you know, reversible because you look at what happened with our target 19 vaccines agenda. I know you tried to start up again. Im sorry me, were out of luck to hunger and everything else. So i think these propagandists are quite capable of changing the agenda when i see that like lost the battle in regard to the right and come all that they want to come out to be very well because russia will undoubtably come out a bit well and the cycle questions or comments that hes will come out with a bad way. But you know, be fighting the way i say, what does this actually mean . Because these countries all a true pro by global expressed interest and we say listen, the chinese recently i, what we need is a bit more democracy in the western European Countries on because were having policies which have approval from the update regarding this conflict in do you try and russia, and did we need to bear in mind that russia was and both the 1st or the 2nd world was it wasnt that long ago that a number of members with royal family were officially visiting russia to improve relations. I think its not possible to go back. Sure. And then when i, if you remember, we had the presser reagan and gorbachev agreements, we need to have people here got stage like abilities like weve been, but some forshie thats very much working with. I will, i wish i could agree with you about the political back to pie and los angeles. The problem is, is that we have a lead now that it is ideologically possess. They do not see other options. Yeah. Thats why i dont see any real liter coming out of the west because theyre ideology doesnt allow it. Its, its kind of like, its kind of like the history of catholicism. You know, once you have the savior, you know, you, you, then you, you know, and you can have someone follow, you know, we already found it. Ok, this ideologies. So frozen and pipe. If someone satcher say we should sit down and negotiate, then youre just to put in propagandist and stooge. They have painted this discursive themselves into this discursive corner. They cant find a way out and their material being is going to be degraded very, very quickly. I mean, the winter is starting, thats what i started out in my, my introduction. The consequences are going to be very great and not just for one winter for many winters. Ahead. Go ahead by. Yeah, i mean that there cards are limited as far as playing at 1st of all the Green Movement you guys were referencing earlier for decades. What that has been is essentially the, the top power structure of the owners of the banks who are tied very closely. As matthew pitt can attest to the Energy Companies and have been for a well over a century. Thats just sweeping propaganda. The Green Movement in large part has been a means for trying to get the rest of the worlds attention deflected away from oil, natural gas and carbon. What a based feels because it is the a monopoly or a perceived as the required monopoly of london. A swiss sand, new york banks, and yet western and eurasia is assisting russia and its energy spine while integrating, sweeping infrastructure growth is matthew is referencing earlier. Russia and china will simply expedite the replacement of this 49 year old petra dollar reserve recycling standard. While the u. S. Fed hikes Interest Rates into a deep recession and the largest banks manipulate fuel prices high enough to seemingly engineer trans atlantic stagflation. You really have to ask yourself like the propaganda on one hand, i which answer who is referencing versus tactics on the other. It becomes very transparent to anybody whos sober and thinking and has any appreciation for history. Whats happening in the west . It matthew in ear me, i guess you need, you definitely need an appreciation of history in this day and age because very few people seem to have it. It same. See, you know, you dont have to be einstein to figure out. Well, europe became safe and prosperous because, oh, and then i just got it cheap energy. So the indians and the chinese and everybody else in the world saw this formula work during the entire post war period. And they want to emulate the europeans. I want to do it. Thats fine. Thats your choice. Your craven choice. No one is cutting it off from you. Youre cutting yourself off. So what people see this isnt it is patently mad. Go ahead, matthew. It is patently mad. I mean, no creature in the, in the bios for that we can see a willfully just commit suicide on their own. This is not something that ever really happens. And it seems like there has been in ideology as youve alluded soon, and i and has also me the point that there is a governing ideology, almost a pseudo religion. And its a pseudo religion masquerading behind a form of scientific sociological theorizing that is truly ivory tower that posits that we can go back in time to a state of christine, a stasis. No change where we somehow live in equilibrium with unchanging nature, with technologies like windmills that we had had used last in the 13th 14th centuries. It was fine then when we had less than a 1000000000 people, but today with 8000000000 or more, that is not going to work. And the effects of trying to undercut the type of abundance and means of production, both in food as well as Industrial Base of that this requires is bloodcurdling. The unfortunate thing is that we once had a very viable pro Capital Creation ethic before i was born, which has been under attack. Now, there were many, many decades and russians at russia, china and india especially, are really learning from what we used to do and seeing well, why cant they simply use the model that made the west once great of industrial progress, leaping beyond the limits to growth by embracing new discoveries and applying it for the, the needs of your society. Thats what, thats what made us work. And weve, weve let that go now for decades by design. And we have a small window of opportunity to get it back, but its a, its again, its a closing window. You know, anthony, when joe biden became president and i think was during his inaugural address. He said america will have a foreign policy. The supports the middle class im thats not even a bad joke today, but in the reason i mentioned it in something that matthew had to say, is it, you know, you have the ration countries that are actually thinking about their middle class because a middle class for the ration countries is a relatively new phenomena and its something that makes their societys work again, that you can always say best practices. Youre borrow the best practices, you know, europe did that in the post war era, but building up middle class in the u. S. As well, but theyve abandoned that for ideology. And again, you know, one of the things i and i live here in moscow, the west is terrified of alternatives. Alternative, a conservative Society Society that has religious beliefs, all these things because most of the world looks at the west now and bill wilderness about their woke ism and values and whatever these things, they dont understand it, i dont understand it. But what i would, i do see i reject it and i, i think i speak for the majority of the world. Anthony. Yes. Hi, im a button thing which is pretty clear baffled between their various food promoters where i could just and i see turns or theyve been increasingly saying that russia is i scott valleys west, west co decreasing lisa, i know your point about the middle class and so just the metal classics, basically a lower income people as well. But the sad time with b. B, you tell, you know, the question countries look to walk up, is it that countries besson faster theyve never been in the best interest of the u. K. Should be both in the credit and our complaints, and the vast majority of countries in the world, not century russia, thats involving several nights wells population. I lost a couple trees, and the ones have condemned russia in the day. And ive done a g deals with russia, a said were just cussing around the country to continue with these sections and pouring money and sharing props. Ukrainian government tip either that ive worked with most so country in the world with told by fighting for freedom and democracy that but they dont have free no democracy. And i want to go, i want to go to los angeles pie. I want to give you the last 30 seconds for getting up so early today. Last or its like, its got to you just quickly back to ukraine, the world bank declared a recently, the ukraines economy will shrink to 8 times more than that of russias. But again, as weve reiterated multiple times during the program, london, washington, brussels and television, do not care. Theyll throw the entirety of europe, certainly ukraine to be sacrificed at arresting russian, and more importantly, wider your asian, economic integration and growth. Okay, wonderful point to end on. 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