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The white house for us. What happened with the talks and negotiations . Well, alex with after three hours of meeting at capitol hill today, both democrats and the president s negotiators emerged to say that there was progress today. They are by no means imminent that they are not there yet. Still both suggesting that there was some reason for optimism. Senator Chuck Schumer was saying these are the negotiations that they yet. Take a listen to what he had to say a few minutes ago. He had, really, it was it was the best discussions weve had so far. And id call it progress, but a ways to go. This is not a a usual discussion because the urgency is so great. Healthwise, financial healthwise and, again, the health of our democracy because our elections will be affected by the coronavirus. And we must address that. We also heard in just the last few minutes from the republican negotiators from the white house both the secretary and the treasury, Steven Mnuchin and the president s chief of staff. They also suggested there was progress with meadows, the white house chief of staff, saying this needs to be a 24 7 efforts until theres a deal. President trump has been checking in hourly on the negotiations. Alex, both sides have been reluctant to give a whole lot of details to us publicly about what is happening in these negotiations, but we can get the sense from lisping to both sides that they now have an agreement on some of the basic core areas here, that they need to extend these Unemployment Benefits, that they need to do something to extend the moratorium on evictions. But there are still some major issues dividing them. Chief among them, according to the republican negotiators, whether to make this a shortterm deal with an added on broader deal or just one overall deal because the democrats have been saying weve got to take care of all of this at the same time whereas the white house has been pushing for a oneweek extension of those Unemployment Benefits the buy them a little bit more time to sort out the matters in the longer term. So that is basically where were at at the moment, alex. The Staff Members for both sides are going to be meeting again tomorrow. The negotiators saying it doesnt make any sense for them to really get together tomorrow, but once again on monday we do expect to see the Congressional Democrats as well as the white house negotiators try to sit down, see if theyve made enough progress to move forward on this. Yeah. As long as talks and negotiations continue in a timely fashion because people dont have a lot of time to wait for all this. Thank you so much, josh ledderman. Joining me now is kimberly afghan. Lets talk about what has been a major point of contention for negotiations, unemployment. Republicans have argued that the extra 600 a week is a disincentive for people to work. According to the boston Globe Editorial board, they say no, Unemployment Benefits do not discourage work. Talk about this back and forth, kimberly, and the reasons why congress should reinstate this benefit. Yes. I mean, it stems from this argument that for some people who may actually take in more than what they would have made from this unemployment benefit, temporary unemployment benefit, that its a disincentive. And it isnt true. For a lot of reasons. First to the extent that somebody might be making more money, that speaks more to the inability of so Many Americans to make a living wage and that shows that the financial unemployment systems in the country are broken. But in order to qualify for the benefit, you have to have had a job. And you have to continue to search for a job. So its just a false claim. What republicans are trying to do is to lessen the amount of money. They said 600 is too much. But that 600 kept nearly 10 million americans out of poverty. Its more than just keeping them in the position they were in before. Its keeping a roof over their head as the economy tanks and it allows them to be consumers and consumerism is what this economy is built upon. If they cant spend money, the economy will take and that only means more people will lose their jobs. I have to tell you, kimberly, i wish i could take that sound bite and play it back to anybody who puts forward the idea of people not wanting to get to work. That said, lets talk about the president who is praising both dr. Anthony fauci and congressman jim george saying big progress is being made after those two clashed on a congressional hearing about coronavirus. This as nbc news is reporting that the white houses attempts to message its way out of the Coronavirus Crisis with a ramped up Public Safety campaign, that its run into roadblocks. So the coordination of messaging from jim jordan and perhaps others, is this something that congress is doing on behalf of the president , essentially doing his bidding . Its certainly what jim jordan seems to be doing all week, campaigning on behalf of the president is and putting forward this law and order message that attempts to demonize protesters and the black lives Matter Movement. Jim jordan was trying to a blas the blame of spikes in the coronavirus on protests that have been going on through the protests. Yeah. The protests going on through the country. That studies have shown that because these protests were largely taking place outside and most of the people werent Wearing Masks actually did not cause a massive spike. The spikes have been traced to things likes restaurants and bars, indoor gatherings, and other things that have been happening in the country. Its a false flag put up and tries to give cover to President Trumps appeal to his voters as he tries to ruj run for reelection. Jim jordan was saying protesters dont increase the virus or they do, its all this back and forth, youre putting words in my mouths. It was really not good, really back and forth. It was really quite the exchange. Hey, by the way, just getting word, my executive producer is calling me congressman raul has covid. It was just confirmed. We see many on capitol hill now. Louis gohmert saying he has it. Roga halva, i havent seen him without wearing a mask. Certainly Louis Gohmert said im not going to wear a mask. As you take all this into context, what comes to mind, kimberly . It just shows that even in on capitol hill where there has not been a Testing Program in place, the leaders of both republican and Democratic Leaders put aside that idea of testing members of congress at capitol hill the same way theyre tested at the white house saying that they wanted to leave those Resources Available to others, but you are seeing when youre in close contact indoors, even sometimes when year wearing a mask that shows how this virus spreads. I have to tell you, alex, i have asthma so i do not go to the capital for that very reason. And it shows the need to have testing in place, to have a system where you can monitor outbreaks so you are not spreading the very people who are in charge of protecting americans cant seem to protect themselves. Yeah. Lets move on to tiktok. As you know, the president told reporters last night that he plans to ban this very popular chinese owned video sharing app. First of all, does the president have the ability to unilaterally stop people from having an app to use . Yeah. Thats really questionable whether the president actually has that power. And youve seen him announce that hes going to do a lot of things, often things he does not have the power to do. I know theres some speculation that hes angry at this app because of people like sara cooper or others who have made fun of him or the campaign to inflate the numbers going to his tulsa rally. But at the end of the day, you can have actual policy discussions about privacy and the collection of data, americans data by Chinese Companies and others, but its really interesting to have at a time that the Trump Administration and the Justice Department are engaging in a lot of surveillance of americans, including surveillance of protesters. It doesnt seem to be a congrewus message. So its hard to see what the purpose is here of the president ern to simply message against an app that he doesnt seem to like very much. Into all right. Thank you very much. Right now, hurricane isaias is set to hit the United States in just a couple of hours. Weather officials are sending out a warning that floridans in a risk area should watch out for potentially life threatening flash floods, high speed winds. Our nbc news team is following the latest as hurricane isaias moves in. Were going to begin with sam brock on the ground for us in West Palm Beach florida. Sam, what is the latest there . What does it look like . We can see its getting more windy certainly. Do you see people preparing . Yeah. The wind is definitely picking up, alex. People are preparing by hanging out at the beach right now. Governor desantis declared a state of emergency for all of the coastal towns affected by hurricane isaias. What happens after that, he said 12 counties individually came out and declared local emergencies in their counties. Im in palm beach county. That was one of them. Doesnt look like theres much of an emergency right now. If you look over my shoulder, it looks like a normal beach day here. Tons of people outside enjoying the sand, enjoying the sun. Its about 90 degrees right now. Clear blue skies. The concern is whats going to happen over the next couple of hours into tomorrow morning. Hes saying isaias is on its way, 80mileperhour sustained winds going through the bahamas to florida. The idea right now is its slowed down. That is the problem. Its going 12 miles per hour. Which is to say when it finally gets here, its going to dump a lot of rain. It is concurrent with covid19 which has florida reeling right now. We talked to them about how theyre handling covid and hurricane preparation. There are potential evacuations here in the county. Temperature checks as people come to the evacuation shelters. Everybody will make sure we have masks, hand sanitizers, everybody get their individual hand sanitizer. So making sure that that is accounted for. And then, of course, social distancing. Everybody will get 60 square feet. 60 square feet is how much space you get if you go to a shelter. What youre looking at right now, alex, is the atlantic ocean. The storm surge is going to be another thing, very closely watched right now. One to three feet are the projections on the southern end of these warnings, but its more like 2 to 4 as you get into hurricane watch land moving north towards floridas space. Thats a pretty reasonable search. The concern that there would be flooding on top of that, especially if this storm ends up sitting there for a long period of time. And one other point id like to make is the storm does not have to hit land to feel Hurricane Force gusts. If its within 35 miles, that is close enough to do it and right now the projections are 25 miles. Thats fluid. It can change at any point. Yeah. Thats the latest from palm beach county. Back to you. Absolute slely. Thank you so much, sam brock. Now were going to get to meteorologist melissa webb. So if youre within 35 miles and this form is within 25 miles, youre going to feel storm surge and winds. Yeah. When you see Tropical Storm force winds, they extend out 35 miles, alex. So still going to potentially see those gusts up to 80 miles to 100 miles per hour. Now, isaias continues to be very disorganized and thats good news. In the last update, we saw a decrease in that storm system, but what is going to happen here is its going to enter another body of water, the atlantic, and its going to sit from fremont to portions of south florida. It will sit there for a minute and then it starts to reorganize. Could possibly see some rapid intensification of this storm system. In this latest update, it still keeps it at cat 1 and is still well offshore. Daytona beach, jacksonville, youre now on our radar. Could still see the center of that storm scoot over 20 to 30 miles and then were going to be keeping an eye on monday night, south carolina, charleston to the columbia area, North Carolina, as well. Wilmington. So weve seen one landfall with this storm system and now, alex, we are tracking a potential for two more. It extends all the way into the northeast with isaias slowing down. Now were not expecting a potential impact for areas of the northeast until about tuesday, overnight into wednesday. So the hurricane warnings are still in place for west palm and daytona. Right now is not the time to really loosen the grip. You saw sam out there in his live shot, people out on the grip. But west palm is really on our radar for the center of this storm system to be passing over this area. And if it doesnt, still, the storm surge, the potential flooding. Let me give you some flooding numbers. Were talking about 2 to 4 inches in areas of localized flooding. The potential could be up to 6 inches and then those Storm Force Winds will continue for eastern areas of florida. They do die down as we make their way into the carolinas. Okay. We are duly warned about all of this. Thank you so much. Lets go now to the latest on the coronavirus pandemic as new reporting from yahoo news says the cdc project tess coronavirus death toll could hit 182,000 by the end of this month. And thats according to an internal document that has not yet been released to the public. It comes as the u. S. Surpassed 150,000 deaths just days ago. Meantime, a reality check from the white houses testings results turn around as he and other top government officials testified before congress. Would it be possible for our nation to have results for all covid tests completed and returned within 48 and 72 hours . Is that a possible benchmark that we can achieve . It is not a possible benchmark we can achieve today given the demand and the supply. California rich ago grim, new milestone becoming the first state to reach half a million cases. The state has more than 504,000 infections with over 9,000 deaths. Lets go to nbcs scott cohen. Hes at a testing site in san toe s jose, california. Weve been using the words grim, disturbing. But that testing site, what are you seeing there today . Alex, this is an indication of how much this testing issue is becoming a choke point among so much choke points in this pandemic. So this is a popup site that the Santa Clara County set up here at Oak Grove High School in san jose. People were lined up early before the opening which was a little over an hour ago. And they went through the supply of test kits just a short time ago. Theyre done. People were handed out wrist bands so they can come back during the day to get tested. But they are out of their supply of test kits. And then theres the issue as we alluded to a moment ago of turning those tests around. Now Santa Clara County is saying that theyre looking at an average of about four days. That is an average. With first diagnostics, among one of the main test processors in the country, is saying nationwide they are now looking at an average of 7 days for most people, other than people who are hospitalized or Health Care Workers who are showing symptoms. So this is becoming a series issue as they try and use the test to go track this disease. And some experts like dr. Ezekiel emanuel was saying the current testing system just isnt cutting it. We also need to accelerate the development of those home testing kids, the point of care testing kits. All of this should have been done and, you know, Jared Kushner and admiral jerard have not stepped up to the job. Quest diagnostics is now saying they now have authorization for a new lab method that might accelerate the testing turn around to some degree, but thats still an issue. The u. S. Is testing about 820,000 people a day but, again, the turn around is an issue as these numbers continue to grow in california and across the country. Its a problem. Okay. Scott, thank you for that. A warning from the president , his threat to delay this years election and the attorney generals surprising response when Congress Asked him about it. Are you tired of clean clothes that just dont smell clean . What if your clothes could stay fresh for weeks . Now they can downy unstopables inwash scent boosters keep your laundry smelling fresh way longer than detergent alone. Pour a cap of downy unstopables into your washing machine before each load and enjoy fresher smelling laundry for up to 12weeks. This towel has already been used and it still smells fresh. 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In this upcoming november election, the president asked you to intervene and try to stop states from counting legal ballots after election day, will you do the right thing and refuse, yes or no . I will follow the law. You wont say no, sir . I will follow the law. Joining me now, paul butler, federal former prosecutor, current professor at Georgetown School of law and an msnbc legal analyst. Nice to see you again. The president has suggested a couple of scenarios here. Those two questions that were posed of attorney general, what is behind this . So weve discussed some difficult legal issues, alex, like whether a sitting president can be indicted or what is high crime and misdemeanor mean. This is not one of those hard questions. Article 2 of the constitution says its congress who sets the date for the president ial election. Since 1778, weve voted for president in november. We even voted during the civil war. So the president himself has no authority. It would take both the house of representatives and the senate to approve a change. And regardless of whether the election is held, the constitution also makes it clear that january 20th, in this case 2021, if donald trump loses, hes out of office. Whenever the election is held, november 20th is his last day in office if he is not reelected. So, paul, how did you interpret bill barr when he was asked he said he would follow the law, right . You just outlined the law. So it seemed like it was a nobrainer of an answer. Why would he even push back . Because bill barr, whenever there is a choice between answering the question truthfully and supporting the rule of law or on the other hand supporting donald trump, he always chooses donald trump. His client is the United States of america, but the people lose because trump has the attorney general of his fantasies. He said he wanted someone like roy cohen. Thats what he got. Remember, alex, though, that roy cohen got disbarred. So well have to wait and see what the remedy is for bill barr. That would be up to the to the congress. Technically, the attorney general can be impeached. I certainly think hes committed the high crimes and misdemeanors that make him impeachable eligible. The question is whether the republicans who control the senate would be willing to step forward and do their constitutional duty. The answer is probably no. The consequences for bill barr, like President Trump, will have to wait until the election. Such an interesting hearing on capitol hill. In fact, lets take another election related question and answer from bill bar. Take a listen to this. Is it ever appropriate, sir, for the president to solicitor accept assistance in an election . It depends what kind of assistance. Is it ever appropriate for the president or president ial candidate to accept or solicit foreign assistance of any kind in his or her election . No, its not appropriate. Okay. I saw you had to struggle with that one. That was that about . Its about whether hes more committed to trump or the rule of law and hes more committed to trump. There should be no hesitation for any citizen, especially any lawyer and especially an attorney general of the United States. Its a federal crime for a campaign to accept a foerchb contribution. This is why President Trump was impeached. This is another easy question. If the aid is coming from people or countries like russia, it also borders on treason. And lets make a point, the congressman said is it appropriate for the president to accept any foreign help, right . And then when he reiterated it, he said any foreign help. I mean, it just the whole thing, it was a remarkable exchange, shall we say. Thank you so much, paul butler. Appreciate that. New insight into the big change seen on the streets of portland. Big change seen on the streets of portland we aint stoppin bel go straight till the morning look like we wont wait were taking everything we wanted we can do it all strength, no sweat instead of using aloe, or baby wipes, or powders. Try the cooling, soothing relief of preparation h. Because your derriere deserves expert care. Try new soothing relief. Gubut force factors test x180 are tough. Can help us man up, america, by boosting total testosterone. Build muscle, fuel desire, and improve performance. Get test x180 from force factor, the 1 fastestgrowing mens health brand at walmart. Hundreds of protesters took to the street in the Downtown Portland area. Crowds gathered to chant, they showed support for the black lives Matter Movement and even listened to speakers. But it comes a day after the state took over security at the federal courthouse and eased tensions between protesters and federal agents. Mara, welcome. So those state troopers, they stayed mostly out of sight the last couple of nights, right . Exactly, alex. Firsts, the state troopers, weve only seen them out of the federal courthouse during the day. They havent exited the building overnight when protesters are gathering in this area. They dont issue any dispersal announcements over the loud speaker that used to rile up the crowd inciting a lot more things being thrown at the federal courthouse and they havent deployed any teargas the past two nights. So that combined with the fact that the protesters are also taking on more peaceful approach, selfpolicing in a way when they see somebody try to climb over the fence, people in the area have told them, no, were not doing that. Were going to keep this peaceful. And so i want you to listen to some of those protesters who are focused on making sure that the message of the overall movement stays true. Take a listen to what they said last night. Some people try to label us as anarchists. These guys, were out here every day and we just, you know, just out here fighting for a cause and telling them what we think is right. The focus is still the fight against injustice, but the focus is to correct the people that is responsible for the cruel and unusual punishment that has been imposed on us american citizens. Im here so that we can make a movement, keep going, make some positive changes in our city. Right . And lend our voice to the good fight and get into the good trouble. So we just saw some state troopers come outside. Theyre kind of wandering around in the fenced in area here outside. This is going to be the plan. This is the deal that the governor put into place with dhs and the acting dhs secretary chad wolf has said that the federal agents will remain in portland, but we understand they will not be seen. But they will stay here in the general area until they feel confident that the courthouse is protected. So well keep following any developments the rest of this weekend. And i appreciate you for doing so. Thank you. My next guest, the former head of i. C. E. Says President Trumps deployment of federal agents to prosecute tests in portland is a, quote, manufactured crisis stemming from a failure of leadership. John joins mess now, a former acting director of i. C. E. Welcome to you. What do you mean by manufactured crisis . And why would the president do that . How does a crisis help his presidency . Im not sure about that second question, alex, but this was never about protecting that federal courthouse. You dont deploy fully armed units if your goal, frankly, over the objections of the state and local leadership if your goal is to actually protect that federal courthouse. This was all about generating a controversy to the point where the federal deployment itself became the nature of the protests. Thats the exact opposite of what any Law Enforcement agents wants to do in this situation where you want to defuse the decision and lower the pressure there. But instead, by deploying these units, they became the source of the controversy themselves. And, john, specifically about these unit wes apparently those who came to portland reportedly came from customs and border patrol. So the question is, are they trained to management protest crowds . And why would the president choose them . Yeah. That is exactly the wrong agency to send. These are dedicated men and women. I have a lot of respect for the border patrol. They wear military gear, they drive armored vehicles. They are the units we deploy in the middle of the night in the middle of the desert to get drug traffickers. Instead, we send what it should be, a paramilitary unit. And in doing that, we set those agencies up for failure. And the big problem i have, alex, one of the many is that weve given a black eye to an agency that does a lot of dangerous work for this country and keeping us safe by putting them in a situation where theyre designed to family and become the controversy themselves. Does it make sense those t president would choose those agents from this particular agency . Could it be because some agencies are spread very thin, that these were the only ones available . I mean, does that make any sense . Alex, listen, between the state and local Law Enforcement who are there to assist, between the other agents that are available including my former agency who are at least trained to operate in this environment and can do so in coordination, not over the observations of state and locals, but in coordination because state locals are one of the key dhs partners. All of this, if you ask me, was about politics. The president wanted to send a message. And i think the selection of the border patrol, there is no way that chad wolfe didnt understand that this would be a controversial deployment, that this was the wrong unit to send to the streets of portland. All of that was intentional about having these paramilitary units deployed on the streets. It was all about the optics and it was all to please an audience of one. As the acting secretary had an obligation to protect the department and advance its interests while carrying out the prerogatives of the president. But this president has advocated that responsibility and is really just trying to please the president of the United States. Can i ask you, john, if you were in your old position, what you might be doing in the department of homeland security, what you would be advising. Listen, im just very grateful im not in my old position because i think it would be incredibly difficult to be in the department at this time. I speak to a lot of career officials there. Part of the problem is theyre now viewed as a rogue agency that is in need of reform. Its not dhs. Dhs are good dedicated men and women would want to protect national security. This is all about the leadership of the administration. The administration, the president is abusing dhs, turnling it into his personal goon squad. As a result, dhs is going to pay the price on this. It is the men and women at the department held responsible because the quote unquote leaders will be gone soon. John, really, telling me very candidly your thoughts on this which i appreciate. Thank you, john . Attorney general eric holder will inus tomorrow on a. M. Joy. That will start at 10 00 a. M. Eastern with our colleague, jonathan capehart. As many Public Schools go completely remote, the alternative some families are considering to get their children back in the classroom. Considering to get their children back in the classroom when you think of a bank, you think of people in a place. 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Among them, almost three dozen lifeguards who went to house parties. Corey, i know youve been talking with the beach goers. Are they looking forward to rolling back anything or do they want to keep things as they are . Yeah, the short answer, alex, is absolutely not. Everybody that i spoke to said they really hope that that does not end up being the scenario, especially for Small Businesses who are just starting to get back on their feet. Obviously, a crowded day out here, but folks are social distancing on the beach. And when i talked to them, they said they do, unfortunately, feel like the second wave is inevitable in this state. However, how severe its going to be will depend on what new jerseyans do next. Now that theres so many cases out there and people move around, its inevitable. But if youre careful and hopefully we can keep it down. But i dont think its over. I think its probably going to come back around. I think we did the right thing the first time around. We know what it kind of looks like to do it the right way and i think governor murphy and Governor Cuomo did it the right way from march on. If they have to do it again, i think thats, you know, what well do. They will do it if they have to, alex. Of course, its the second to last scenario, right . Because the last Case Scenario that they would ever want is to see aen increase in the death rate in new jersey, already totalling more than 15,000. And lets get back to an update on the lifeguard outbreak. We have learned 34 of those 35 lifeguards have recovered. One is still being monitored for symptoms at this time. Last reported case there was july 21st. The biggest thing so emphasize is this is coming from indoor parties. This is not from lifeguards out on the beach doing their job, but rather inside in contained spaces. So the governor and other officials are trying to fight indoor parties specifically in the state of new jersey. There was that one that had 700 people in attendance, which is a jaw dropping concept. Thank you very much, corey kaufman. As the debate over School Reopenings rages on, in North Carolina Public Schools are expected to be held virtually. Some are looking for an alternative like private and independent schools. Jordan, welcome. I know you spoke with a few school officials. What did they tell you . Yeah, thats right. School officials shared some eye popping numbers with me. I spoke to an admissions director here. He said last july, they received about 16 applications and just july of this year, 67 applications have come in. And here in gilford county, we are weeks away from the start of the school year. Public schools here will be online for at least the first nine weeks of the school year. And because of this, parents here are just weighing options that they have not previously considered or would not have previously considered. I spoke to two officials here who talked to me just about the main concerns that they are hearing from parents who are calling into the school, asking to tour the facility. Take a listen to what they told me. With both working parents, i can attest to a dual working family with young children, its hard to balance your career and also home school your children. Parents are looking for a plan that they can thrust, a plan that they can count on, a plan with contingencies, a plan with if this happens, what will Greensboro Day School do. And weve been able to answer those questions. Some parents told me that last spring their child tried out Virtual Learning through the Public School system and it just did not work for their individual student. But, you know, remember that these Public Schools collect revenue per student, so they could wind up losing money here. And, of course, for some parents, just due to the sheer cost of private schools, its just not a feasible option. But, you know, this is just another reminder, just another example of the unexpected and, really, unpredictable ways that covid is really shaking up our education system. Alex. Yeah, absolutely. And it is a conversation that is going on in homes across this country, neighborhoods. Im hearing it from friends. What are we going to do with the kids . Its pretty remarkable right now. Thank you very much, Jordan Jackson from that option from North Carolina. Inspiring change, how president obamas eulogy for john lewis not only ownered the life of an icon by highlighted the work that is still left to do. Highlighted the work that is still left to do hownered the life of an icon by highlighted the work that is still left to do. Ioownered the life of an icon by highlighted the work that is still left to do. Nownered the life of an icon by highlighted the work that is still left to do. Ownered the life of an icon by highlighted the work that is still left to do. 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Jesse, a big welcome to you. Curious, given your past experience with the president , rate that particular oratory from him and your thoughts on the yule gee. Every time i think how did we do that, elect a man like that, and then you see a speech like that, and you see go oh, yeah, it was brilliant and poignant. Exactly the kind of remarks that congressman lewis would want to be spoken in his honor. It wasnt looking back. It was a looking forward. There were wistful comments upon hearing barack obama speaking, certainly drawing a comparison to this president and his oratory skills. That said, do you think the theme of protecting Voting Rights will be seeing we see from the former president while he is out on the campaign trail . It has to be. I think it is having dear to his heart. I also think that Voting Rights are going to be under attack more than they have been in our lifetime in this generation. They have been under attack. These are problems that long predate the pandemic. The reality is, you know, in key districts n key states, there are voting lines that have people of color especially waiting 45, 50 teams 50 longer than their white counterpart districts. This is a problem that predated the program. Now problems like misinformation. Problems like generate anxiety about it and you have the most powerful person in the world tweeting and saying into the camera you should fear this election, maybe you shouldnt participate. We have never seen head winds like this on american voters. You might have caught the last word with lawrenceo done when samuel l. Jackson read john lewiss last words. Though i may not be here with you i urge you to answer the highest calling of your heart and stand up for what you truly believe. In my life, i have done all i can to demonstrate that the way of peace, the way of love and nonviolence is the more excel on the way. Now it is your turn to let freedom ring. Energian freeman. It was moving to hear that. Morgan freeman did a beautiful job of it. Those words, what did that mean to you . What can we take from that moving forward. For me, those are parting words of humility that were almost inhuman for someone to have accomplished as much as he had, to be revered as he is for his final words to be so humble. It really read to me like love letter to the next generation, to this generation, to people my age and younger saying not just that i am handing you the baton, but you inspire me. The last thing i am going to tell you as i leave this earth is that i feel inspired by you. So its not just it is a love letter to us. But it also, i think, you know, it is a sense of responsibility that is he is instilling in a generation of people saying if you are honoring me with words, you are not honoring me. If you are honoring me by dedicating your life, your career, your passion to the movement and to progress, thats how you honor me. I am curious, jesse when we watched the message of john lewis and we saw barack obama, george w. Bush, bill clinton, then that have held this incredible position as the leader of the free world by most accounts, right, and we didnt see donald trump there, was that the right call, given what we know, the somewhat contentihent relationship, or do you think Donald Trumps voice should have been at that funeral for the countrys sake . Thats a real tough question. There is two things going on at a funeral like that. One is honoring the person, honoring a man. You know, congressman lewis is a be person who has been clear about how he felt about President Trump. He has the final word i am sure he had the final word on that decision. I wouldnt begin to question him on that. My question would be of course to our 25th president. Is can you successfully lead a country while drawing lines of division that can alienate somebody as true and powerful as john lewis . Yeah. Well, that is a question. 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