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Me to talk about equal pay and whether new abortion laws could backfire on the gop. We begin with the battle for 2020, certainly a crowded day on the campaign trail. Got 11 candidates, hold something to dozen events across several different states. Joe biden will be keeping up momentum as the frontrunner of this day, leading the field 35 in the new fox poll. Now even though he announced his president ial run a few weeks ago, biden is comparing for the official Campaign Kickoff rally where you see it in philadelphia. In just about an hour the former Vice President will fully lay out the final phase of his Campaign Rollout as he calls to unify the country. Were going to the big rally there and we have nbcs Garrett Haake, and Bernie Sanders is live in orangeburg, south carolina, where he just wrapped up a town hall. We will start with mike in philadelphia. What can we expect this afternoon in about an hour and change from now . Alex, good afternoon from what is really a postcard afternoon here in the heart of philadelphia. The word of the day you hib able to see it on screens behind me, united. Joe bidens been in the race for president a little over three years. Visiting the early states, New Hampshire, south carolina, nevada but today pennsylvania is seen as a capstone of this rollout and really a chance for the Vice President to focus on what they believe is a winning message for them and that is unifying the country. Let me read a little bit from the Vice President , what we expect to hear him say today. Hes going to say if the American People want a president to add to our division, lead with a clenched fist, closed hand and heart hard, demonize the opponent and spew hatred, they dont need me. Im running to offer our country, republicans and democrats, a different path. This rhetoric from the Vice President gets squarely they heart of the most important debates of the primary and there are a lot of potentials that think hes being naive, that in this climate there isnt a chance to Work Across Party Lines anymore. I had a chance to ask the Vice President about that earlier in New Hampshire. Lets listen to how he answered that question. If you noticed, Mitch Mcconnell and i, were friends and worked out every deal. People said you cant deal with Mitch Mcconnell but you can deal with reality. And the reality is theres an awful lot that can be done. Biden saying in this speech he believes democrats do want to unify the nation. Theres a lot of symbolism with the choice of philadelphia as a rally. The Vice President will talk about the place our founding documents were written. And political symbolism in this rally, the Biden Campaign believes the road to the white house is won or lost here in pennsylvania. And a new quinnipiac shows joe biden leads President Trump in a match here 53 to 42 . We will see him wind down a little bit and begin to focus on the allimportant debate at the end of june. That will be a critical moment, testing whether joe biden can maintain the frontrunner status he has now. That will be a huge test. We will check back in. That is supposed to get under way in about an hour or so. Sounds good. Thank you for that. Lets go to Garrett Haake with the Sanders Campaign in south carolina. Garrett, good day to you. Lets get the latest on sanders southeastern swing here. Alex, good afternoonl. Were about two days in for a fourday swing for Bernie Sanders across the Southern States that proved problematic for him in his primary Campaign Last time. He has to do better here with africanamerican voters in particular if he wants to improve upon his 2016 results and actually be the democratic nominee. Yesterday two big rallies in North Carolina and today in orangeburg, south carolina, senator sanders unveiled his education plan. It is robust and deals a great deal with teachers pay. Teachers must be honored and respected. So if we are a nation that can provide contracts to Baseball Players for hundreds of millions of dollars, dont tell me we cannot pay teachers in this country the kind of wages and salaries they deserve. And what are those wages and salaries, alex . It would set a pay nationwide of 60,000 and banning outright private charter schools, putting a moratorium on the expansion of public charter schools, making sure students have yeararound meals in schools. Students cannot learn if theyre hungry. And it massively expands afterschool activities in public schools. Whats missing from this plan, an overall price tag how to pay for it, alex. Can i ask you, do you get any sense folks in the Sanders Campaign are rattled at all by joe biden and his surge in virtual chul virtu virtual virtually every poll out there . I think sanders felt like it would be them and someone else down the stretch, much as it was in 2016. Sanders against the liberal Hillary Clinton. Being the alternative to joe biden is a space theyre comfortable operating in. I think the rest of us feel the scattered and dividing the opposition to biden, this would like to see the other supporters coalesce around him who would not be as comfortable with the joe Biden Campaign. But the Sanders Campaign will run the campaign they want to run and they are preparing for a very long race. Which means you will be out on the campaign trail for quite some time, and we will see a lot of you. Garrett haake, thank you for that. Also coming up how the Trump Administration is grap elg with the overflow of immigrants at the border. Detention facilities overwhelmed so theyre planning to fly up to 3,500 migrants mostly families up to three times a week from Holding Centers in texas to california. The New York Times reports Asylum Seekers could be sent to Centers Across the u. S. , including along the border with canada. Some cities being considered include miami, buffalo, new york and detroit. This morning a democratic congresswoman from detroit told me police and other officials there are concerned about this plan. Both sides have to figure out how to come to the table, keep the people safe, address humanitarian issues and make sure we have labor where labor is need ed and stop playing games. Thats all this is. Its been two decades and we cannot deal with one of the most pressing problems addressing this nation. Meanwhile the House Judiciary Committee is scheduled for next tuesday, the testimony of muellers star witness on obstruction, that being former White House Counsel Don Mcgahn but that may be unlikely because the white house is trying to block all current and former aides from cooperating. A top member of the Judiciary Committee is outlining their next move. I think theres a major breakthrough coming, joy, which is up until now the press has basically framed this, are you for impeachment or are you against impeachment . In some sense thats the long question. Thats the very end of the analysis, end of the process. What were focused on how is should we have an impeachment inquiry . More people think this is inescapable and inevitable to vi vindicate the constitution and rule of law. Also new today, clashes this time around with policy towards iran with National Security adviser john bolton reportedly clashing with secretary of state mike pompeo. And three Trump Administration officials telling the Washington Post Senior Adviser Stephen Miller tried to have another shakeup at the department of Homeland Security. But the acting secretary prevented it. The president just blaming the media. These people, they put out messages that im angry with my people. Im not angry. They make it sound like its a conflict but they put out false confidential sources. You ever notice they never write the names of people anymore. Everything is a source says. There is no source. The person doesnt exist. The person is not alive. Its bull [ bleep ], okay . [ bleep ]. So president ial there. Joining me now, gabby oar, White House Reporter from political co, peter baker chief White House Reporter for the New York Times and brian bennett, senior White House Correspondent for time magazine. Lets get right into this here. Peter, i will begin with you. The president certainly pushing back as you heard there using such colorful language against all of the reports of conflict between him, bolton, secretary pompeo. He said hes the one making the calls on iran. Where does the truth lie . Well, look, hes always denied things that turned out to be true. This is not unusual. I remember one time he went off on a tangent like you just showed saying theres no source for this particular story. The source turned out to be someone his white house put at the podium to brief reporters and that person didnt exist. I will take all of the comments with a grain of salt. Sometimes its a sign to talk to the president at times and then goes out and complains theyre not real. Theres a little bit of a game playing when that kind of thing happens. Yes, there are conflicts inside this white house and signed this administration. Its not surprising there would be. The president even admits sometimes there are disagreements, he just doesnt like the word infighting. Thats fine. But they are important issues and go to a deep and fundamental divide between interventionism and pulling back. This is the president who ran on the idea of pulling back from endless wars, he called it, overseas and hired people around him, republican thats believe we have more of a responsibility and should be assertive and forwardleading on issues like iran. With regard to this iran, peter, and these leaks that are presumably coming from inside the white house, it might portray more dysfunction at the white house but on the flip side, what we are hearing would suggest the president is being more measured on iran. Are these the same sources who call out the president when hes demonstrating these more rational episodes . Its interesting, right. His first generation National Security team is perceived to be the People Holding him back, jim mattis, rex tillerson, the grownups in the room restraining this volatile president. Now we see it the other way around in a way, people around him like john bolton and , mike pompeo, are more hawkish and these seen as being reluctant to using more military force, resistant to whats happening. Hes been quoted saying john bolton, if it was up to him, i would already be in four wars. He means it as a joke but it goes to a pretty important instinct on his part, which the people around him are more willing to use military force than he is. Theres also a reporter standoff between Stephen Miller and the acting secretary at the department of Homeland Security. The post is citing three Trump Administration officials on this. What is your read on this apparent dysfunction in the west wing . I mean, weve known for quite a while now Stephen Miller is trying to implement significant changes at dhs and throughout the immigration system. Hes run into trouble for. He got his pick as acting secretary Kevin Mclennan at the agency but now as acting secretary saying look, im in charge here. This is an agency where i need to oversee personnel changes and Stephen Miller seems to be, from what weve seen and the Washington Post is reporting and also from what i heard from white house officials, seems to be standing up and standing in the way of the acting dhs secretary. One of the things that he tried to do this past week behind the scenes wa to erase the nomination essentially of mark morgan to take over as acting director of i. C. E. He wanted to keep the deputy secretary, who is currently in the secretarying role there, in place and move mark morgan over to cdp. Its just contributing to ongoing morale problems across all of these different departments, not only to know that they have no permanent heads in place at a lot of these agencies but also the ongoing tension between the acting dhs secretary and one of the president s top officials. Let me get this straight, one of the president s top officials thinks hes going to help put somebody into place who he could have at times maybe be his puppet, right . He could be the person for which he could funnel certain Trump Administration policies and urge him and now that acting secretary is saying, i think were going to do it this way and it may be different than what you want . Thats exactly whats happening here. I think thats really frustrating for Stephen Miller because we know before that he has had people in dhs who hes called regularly, who he tried to pressure into putting forward his agenda and that hasnt worked previously and doesnt seem to be working now either. To what extent, brian, do you think the president worries about the appearance of him not being in control of his own cabinet . I think he does worry about that. I think he likes to be seen as somebody who is giving orders and having them followed. He likes to have people below him that he thinks are loyal to him specifically and his political interests and thats where a lot of this discrepancy is coming from. The president is now looking forward to 2020. He wants to go back to his supporters and say i fromme ipr i would keep you out of foreign wars and build a wall and have mexico play for it and deal with the ilLegal Immigration problem. Now hes looking at this cognitive disowe dance inside hissed station being policies more aggressive towards iran and military planning against that and hes uncomfortable with that and doesnt want it to look like with his base hes getting ready to do another intervention. Same thing with the wall. Hes been in office 2 1 2 years and there are more and more families coming over the border. Hes not been able to stem is that tide. That is incredibly frustrating for him. I think a lot of the chaos you see him surrounding advisers in dhs and all of the acting positions is hes still trying to figure out how to get his policies implemented in a way he feels like he could go to my base and say look, i told you i would fix this problem and i did and all of the solutions so far have not stemmed that tide. Hes frustrated and the turnover is a reflection of that. Brian brought us to a point talking about immigration and your paper is reporting a retire move by the Trump Administration to fly migrants from texas to california, could be expanded by sending Asylum Seekers to Processing Centers throughout the United States. What is your assessment of this move . Theres a serious issue at the border, no question about that. They are in fact overwhelmed, facilities not able to handle whats happening right now. The question is, this is an administration that has sent signals its willing to play politics on this kind of thing. That notably raises questions about credibility whenever they come up with a proposal like this. Remember the president was purported to be considering a policy to send migrants to democratic districts, safe sanctuary cities, in order to punish them they shumt have the policies they advocate. He sen his aides said no, were not considering that and the president said yes, actually, i am. So the problem is when theyre dealing with a genuine issue and genuine response has seen a filter of politics. Thats going to be a problem for this administration, even as it tries to grapple with something that is genuinely a problem. Im just about out of time. Brian, i want to ask you a question about trade because i know you wrote about it with regard to the president s 25 tariff on china, could be the riskiest move yet. Hes taking that risk. Give us a sense on the white houses thinking how far the president goes on this. Trump is incredibly frustrated he hasnt been able to get china to trade its trading practices and come with media examples of they are willing to do on trade. Its based on his promise, that he would go tough on chinas bad trays practices and hes trying to use tariffs to do that. And he was hoping the 25 would bring china to the negotiating table with something seriously real and not just a promise to buy more soy beans and that just isnt materialized. We will have to see how that plays out over the next several weeks and months but its a reflection of the president wanting to get china to change, and seeing his terror strategy is not working. Speaking of soybeans, gabby, you wrote about that and how farmers were asked to make sacrificial sacrifices in this trade war. Yes, the president has a me for sacrifice from the american familiarer, part of the message hes asking in the trade war against china. He said if only American Farmers can endure the shortterm pain of this trade war, there will be longterm gain and longterm prosperity for all americans. Its sort of a unique pitch that also weaves itself into his 2020 message about patriotism and sacrifice. Very nationalistic in the tone. Thats something i spoke with a lot of officials this week that said its deliberate and the president and his campaign think that this is a message that will actually boost his efforts to negotiate a deal with china. I dont know with farmers, it was supposed to be short term and this looks a lot longer than short. Gabby, peter, brian, thank you guys so much. Good to see you all. The most restrictive abortion ban in the country is signed into law in alabama. The two women who voted against it will explain what it could mean for roe v. Wade. Some things are out of your control. Like bedhead. Hmmmm. Rubadub ducky. And then. Theres national car rental. At national, im in total control. I can just skip the counter and choose any car in the aisle i like. So i can rent fast without getting a hair out of place. Heeeeey. Hey ah, control. vo go national. Go like a pro. Cis choosing to nurtureild and emotionally support children in urgent need. Its not just about opening up your home; it is also about opening up your heart. Consider fostering. Shame, shame, shame, shame, shame, shame protesters in missouri after the republicanled state congress voted to ban abortions after eight weeks of pregnancy with no exception for rape or incest. Seven other stalts have passed antiabortion bills, including alabama, where the governor signed into law the countrys most restrictive abortion ban. It makes it a crime for doctors to perform abortions at any stage of a pregnancy, with the exceptions for when the Womens Health is at risk but not for rape or incest. All of the 25 senate votes in favor of the abortion ban in alabama were from republican men. The two democratic female senators put up a fight. Republicans, you guys used to say we want the government out of our life. Now youre in any womb women are going to stand up and say regardless of what you say, we will take a stand and show you that you will be out. Do you know what its like to be raped . No, i dont. Do you know what its like to have a relative commit incest on you . No, i dont. To take that choice away from that person who had such a traumatic act committed against them, you are playing god. Quite a powerful exchange right will. And those two alabama senators are joining me right now. Im glad to welcome senator davis figures and Coleman Madison. Ladies, welcome. Thank you for your bold voting, bold discussions here. Look, some opponents of abortion hopes your states abortion ban will help overturn roe v. Wade. So this law would go into effect for six months, right . Do you, a, expect that to happen . And b, how else can you and your colleagues protect women who want or need an abortion . Unfortunately that law is going to go into effect in midnovember of this year. If their plan back fires, that means so many women in alabama are going to be denied the Proper Health care they deserve and they have a right to. The other thing about this bill, part of the bill says anyone who performs an abortion. We go to our doctors and sometimes the doctors have to do certain procedures, and that may be an abortion, such as a d c if the woman is pregnant. But then that needs to be done according to what is happening with her body. So its going to be a shame if this law actually goes into effect in november and their plan does not happen as they want it to with going to the u. S. Supreme court and trying to overturn roe versus wade. May i just confirm there are only three places in the state of brm bm where currentalabama receive an abortion, correct . Its either two or three. They are saying this law is just for the doctors performing abortions. So your other ob gyns are not but its going to affect them too. If theres any question about a baby have not been taken and it wasnt to necessarily protect the babys life or whatever, the woman could have just had a terrible, terrible infection or something. So its very its a very ambiguous, confusing, piece of legislation. Which they admit to and which cannot be enforced. So among conservatives that do not support this ban, top House Republican kevin mccarthy, also televangelist pat robertson. Lets listen to them. It goes further than i believe, yes. I have defended my prolife conviction through my whole career. But i also believed in options for victims of rape and incest. I think alabama has gone too far. My humble view, this is not the case to bring to the Supreme Court because i think we would lose. Is there something about alabama politics that made them go even further than longtime conservative voices on this issue . What about alabama politics makes this viable for those who voted for it . You know, thats difficult to determine. Alabama has always been one that we want to be the leader and its things like this deal was all about being the one to reach the top of the hill to plant the flag, to be the first one to not roe v. Wade off. This is not the first time senator figures and i and others who have come before us, we fought this battle for several years. I have been in the senate 17 years and really about 10 years is now this bill has been brought every year. About five years ago there was a bill, the probing bill, and it was all about the abortion rights not about abortion rights of women but the bottom line is it required before a woman had an abortion, that she would be subjected to a probe that was about 12 to 14 inches long. Of course, it was introduced by a male senator. And the point being is that if a woman refused to go through this test, she would not be able to have the abortion. So the concept was that i guess youre going to strap her down, make her have the probe, and watch the fetus in their womb before she made the decision to have the abortion. So alabama has always gone the extreme to try to be number one in this particular area. But this really cuts to the heart of it, because as i was telling the senator that sponsored this bill, this is not personal and i dont take it personal, this is an affront, it is an attack on all women. You have wives, you have daughters, you have a mother. Dont tell me that if one of those persons were raped and they got pregnant, you would abide by the law that you now stand to report and say you will carry out. There was a poll in 2018, it was commissioned by planned parenthood, and it found only 16 of voters in alabama say abortions should be banned, except when the womans life is in danger. Senator figures, that would subject only 16 of voters may support that ban. How do you think this plays out next time voters in alabama go to the polls . Let me tell you, this has energized women and actually men too, but especially women. This is sort of like the straw that broke the camels back, if you will. They see they are tired of all of these things going on around them. And the republicans can be so contradictory. They talk about transparency and wanting to put government out of their lives as senator Coleman Madison mentioned when she was on the floor but then they turn around and they want to be in your bedroom, in youre womb as senator madison said. Its very contradictory. I want them to be consistent. If youre prolife, be prolife through until the child becomes an adult. Be prolife with the children that are already among us, giving them a quality and excellent education, giving them quality and Excellent Health care, which they would not even expand medicaid, which is one of the amendments that i offered. Because whats going to happen is when this law goes into effect and women will not have those clinics to go to, to get an abortion if thats her choice, theyre going to some of them are going to try to have them on their own, which is going to end up the way it was prior to roe versus wade coming into effect. So its going to be an awful, awful situation in alabama. Ladies, i am unfortunately out of time for this conversation. But powerful comments from both of you, both on the tape that we played as well as right here. I thank you very, very much for speaking out with us. I appreciate it. Thank you. Former washington insider only ross omarosa weighs in on the white house power struggle and why shes decided to join a gender pay gap lawsuit against her former boss. Former boss. [knocking] memories. What we deliver by delivering. I swibecause they let metual, customize my insurance. And as a fitness junkie, i customize everything, like my bike, and my calves. Liberty mutual customizes your Car Insurance, so you only pay for what you need. Liberty. Liberty. Liberty. Liberty. And i dont add trup the years. S. But what i do count on. Is boost® delicious boost® high protein nutritional drink has 20 grams of protein, along with 26 essential vitamins and minerals. Boost® high protein. Be up for life. 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He was upbeat about today and he knows polls will go up and go down but what matters most is helping the average american understand his heart, his values, his priorities for our country. I think we will hear a very positive message from joe today. This is a community who knows joe. Hes represented our region for decades as the delaware senator and as our Vice President. I think hes going to do really well in philadelphia today. He will be talking a lot about unifying the country. There are a lot of people who think thats not possible anymore, were in such a polarized environment. Is he naive . What makes joe biden break from the political log jam . He deeply believes in us and recognizes if we cannot bridge the divides in our country, were not going to get anything accomplished in this century. Joe nerss as someone who has served the public across several administrations but most importantly Vice President that if congress cannot work together, we cannot fight the things that need to be resolved, reducing Prescription Drug prices, rebuilding our character e. Strengthening the world stage. He believes it is possible for us to come together not just as politicians but as families and a country. There are what, 22, 23 candidates 24, 25. Maybe someone announced today. When you see the candidates come back from the campaign trail, what are you hearing for them about what theyre saying . So for all are optimistic partly because they love the people theyre hearing from. One of the great things about running for president , i understand from those doing it, being in iowa and New Hampshire and south carolina, you get to hear from middle americans and what they really care about. Frankly, a lot of less excited about past destine bickering than Hearing Solutions to the problems that fame them and their families. We know this will wind down at some point but this is an early stage where all of the candidates are being quite positive. Alex, about a half hour away from hearing from the Vice President himself. The crowd filling in. At least 2,000 so far and were a couple days away from hearing from President Trump. He will be down the road at a rally in pennsylvania as well. We are keeping our eye on the scene there as well as you, senator coons. Thank you so much. Omarosa weighs in on the tension grippaling the oval office and joins me next. E next e next with the chase mobile app, jason wu could pay practically anyone, at any bank, all while putting on a runway show. Or, he can make it even easier meow with recurring payments to his cat sitter. And now shes ready for the catwalk. Chase. Make more of whats yours. 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Having said that, from your time inside the white house, looking at Stephen Miller, how much influence do you think he really has . Stephen has a significant amount of influence and he has the president s ear. It was interesting sitting in those senior Staff Meetings with him because he was always kwie eliminat quiet. He would take in what everybody was saying and then go to the president and leverage his agenda, he is clever and knows how to get the policies he wants across. Are you saying he would throw others under the bus . Oh, all the time. Hes so strategic he plays both sides to the middle and gained the trust and ear of the president and thats all that matters in this game of thrones that is the Trump Administration. Do you think this is the beginning of the end for him . Do you think we can see further resistance from Stephen Miller whether its focusing on dhs or or facets of the add sflags. Stephen miller made it very clear from the beginning about his bullet to points and what he wanted from immigration. Weve seen that getting approved, separating family at the border, moving people across the border to sanctuary cities, Stephen Miller. I dont doubt whatever he wants to advance with any of these policies, he will get it done. I want to get to the other reason we brought you on. The pay discrimination lawsuit thats been filed and against the president and 2016 campaign overall. The motion was filed a bit earlier this week by Alvin Johnson that claimed the Campaign Paid women 18. 2 . There there were points it was greater than that. Yes, 27 . Essentially significantly less than male counterparts, however you are going to count it. I know youre looking to join in this lawsuit. Officially have you done that . Will you do that . And why . We filed a filing monday of last week to join this lawsuit. Earn the reason i wanted to join is the wage gap is increasing under the Trump Administration. And during the can campaign, little to my knowledge, that donald trump was going out of his way to pay women less and we saw that in the reporting from the sec filings and it continues even this day. It carried over into the inauguration and transitioning and happening with the political appointments in the administration. Specifically in 14 days Donald Trumps campaign will have to answer to this filing to account for why they paid women less than men on the campaign. What can their answer possibly be . I dont know because the numbers dont lie. Im very curious to see what trump and pence will say. But i also want to hear from kelly ann, who was the head of this campaign. A woman leading this campaign that was successful, why she would allow women to be treated this way. Under her tenure at the helm of this campaign. Mr. Did you know you were being paid less while you were working tonight campaign . No, i did not know. Until i saw the data in front of me, i was surprised. And i talked to several women who are also going to join this effort and they were told the same thing, this is exactly what were paying your male counterparts and we learned that, too, is is a lie. The numbers say one thing and let me say what the Trump Administration he said, thats never discriminated based on rarks ethnicity, gyppedender or other bias. Think didnt but their dollars did. You have to put your money where your mouth is and in this case their money was on the men. Wage gap, equal pay for equal worth, we see what women are struggling to make against the men, and i think as the leader of the country should certainly respect women more. Do you think the Current Situation in the white house supports this gender pay gap . Yes, if you look at the 25 appointees in the Trump Administration, the women are all being paid 75 on the dollar to men. You render me speechless when you hear these kinds of things. Its remarkable. Lets turn to a new article that comes from the atlantic which gives a look at how it becomes common practice for trump aides to slow walk or flatout dis obey orders in hopes the president is just going to forget it hasnt been followed up upon. This kind of disobedience, if you want to call it that, is it something you witnessed . I wrote about this in unhinged and i got criticism for not taking memos off Donald Trumps desk or giving him short menus, one, he has a short Attention Span and two they were illegal, unethical or immoral. It could put the country in a bad situation and also put you in a legal position. Thats the reason many staffers ignore the requests the president makes. Did you point that out to the president . Suppose you said to him, sir, this is illegal. 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Taking jardiance with a sulfonylurea or insulin may cause low blood sugar. So, what do you think . Now i feel i can do more to go beyond lowering a1c. Ask your doctor about jardiance today. Just a few minutes from now, former vp joe bidens Campaign Kickoff is sit to begin in the heart of philadelphia to hear the early democratic frontrunner. The fight for the battleground state is already heating up. This monday, the president will be making his own stop there for a maga rally. Joining me now, Danielle Moody mills, republican rick tyler and msnbc analyst and the spokesperson for justice democrats. Welcome to all three of you. Lets go ladies first with you, danielle. What do the democrats want to hear from joe biden in his rally today . I would say a lot of democrats really want to hear a little bit more than the kumbaya hes been offering to people. Joe biden is a throwback nostalgic which i say in america right now maybe they need a hug but they also need a fighter. So i think what folks want to hear from joe biden is hes going to be able to go to toe to toe with trump that he knows how to push back. Instead of just saying we need to hold hands and collaborate and cross over the aisle, that we need to actually get the job done which is move forward a Progressive Agenda for america and i think thats what democrats want to hear right now. Okay. We will look for those specifics. These early numbers are pretty sool idly in bidens favor. 39. 1 leading the entire democratic field by, would you look at that, more than 20 points. That is being seen as a very good omen for electability, especially when you factor in matchups against the president , which also have him ahead. Yes just as democrats put a target on his back. Tell me why and couldnt that backfire . Yes, from time to time throughout his leadership joe biden has been on the wrong side of history. Over the past 30, 40 years over his political career he voted for the war in iraq, crime bill that oversaw mass incarceration in this country, credit card companies, and thing thats dogged Hillary Clinton in 2008 when barack obama challenged her on those issues and drew from her support in 2016 when Bernie Sanders went after her on those issues. Theyre the same thing that will likely appeal from a wide variety of candidates who want a face of leadership in the Democratic Party, democrat thats are going to fight, democrats who are not going to do this kumbaya thing as mentioned early. Democrats who will put together a policy vision to govern over the series of crises the government is facing, rising nationalism, 12 years to address the Climate Crisis for skyrocketing health care costs. Biden has not necessarily demonstrated he wants to focus on plsy. Instead he wants to focus on the fact he stood next to barack obama over the past eight years. That is maybe to this point but as didntanielle was pointi out, they were more specific about policy. We have to know what any candidate stands on that. But with regard to electability, it seems the dominance factor weighing in, so my question, if hes the most electable, ultimately, where do you stand on that . Would you absolutely see him in over donald trump . Absolutely not. We will support the democratic nominee, whoever that is. But we are concerned about electability because as we saw in the midwest in 2016 for a variety of reasons democrat not turn out. Partly Voter Suppression and partly lack of motivation. Decline in households of africanamerican areas and young people. And thats why im leery about crowning joe biden right now. I think he thinks about moderation and i think its about motivation. Quickly, rick, i know im just about out of time at the top of the hour, but the fox news showing candidates in the head to head against the president , bidens got the biggest lead 49 to trumps 38 there. But then you have Bernie Sanders, Elizabeth Warren are coming out ahead. Look at the column there for trump. It never gets above 41 . Whats the significance of this . Joe biden is a wide lead in a very long race. Hes the establishment in this race, the Democratic Party is comfortable with him. The largest voting block in the Democratic Party is actually over 50. The party is actually more conservative then you would think. And theyre comfortable with joe biden. So if he doesnt stumble, this is his race to lose. Bernie is actually fading. The debate will be very important because i think you will see someone else from the progressive side. A lot of people want someone whos more progressive and will have a chance to emerge. Right now this is joe bidens race to lose. Im getting fwrord my executive producer we would love all three of ayou guys to stick around if you can. We will confirm that in the control booth. If you can, i will speak to you and if not, thank you for your time. Up next, we will hear from joe bidens kickoff rally in just a bit. Stay here on msnbc. It stay here monsnbc s cedar plane at red lobster featuring three new dishes that are plankedtoperfection. Feast on new cedarplank lobster shrimp. Or new colossal shrimp salmon with a citrusy drizzle. Tender, smoky, and together on one plank. But not for long so hurry in super emma just about sleeps in her cape. But when we realized she was battling sensitive skin, we switched to tide pods free gentle. Its gentle on her skin, and dermatologist recommended. Tide free and gentle. Safe for skin with psoriasis, and eczema. The 2019 Subaru Outback is how safe is the car youre considering . An iihs top safety pick plus. The honda crv is not. Sorry, honda. 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Lets go to mike memoli. We should let you know Garrett Haake is also following closely democratic candidate Bernie Sanders. But were starting with you, mike memoli in philadelphia. What can we expect . Is there any sense on how much detail of policy we may or may not get in this speech . Its something guests of mine have been calling for. Yes, it will be interesting, looking forward to more details from the Vice President on policy. Not today. Today is about unifying the country. Alex, i have been covering campaigns for a number of years and its interesting how they desired to stage these events. If i point in the opposite direction of the stage you have the Philadelphia Museum of art, of course, famous rocky steps, image invoking a fighter but thats not the message the Biden Campaign wants to put forward today. Today is about unifying the country. In the remarks from the Vice President in the next half hour, he will be addressing one of those major debates within the Democratic Party about whether their candidate should be somebody who takes the fight to trump. Let me read a little bit about what we will hear, if the American People want a president to add to our division, lead to clenched fist and closed hand and hard heart, they dont hate me. They have a president who does that. Im running to offer our country, republicans, democrats, independents a different path. Alex as i serd you in the in the last hour, some of the guests talking about whether the party would be more energized we spoke with senator chris coons and i also spoke to another Delaware Center who served with joe biden a number of years. Lets hear him weigh in on this debate as well. We need somebody who cannot just unite our party but our country. Joe can do that. We need somebody who can help actually restore our standing in the world more than anyone else running, maybe more than anyone combined. They know him and like him. That could be a great thing these days. What weve seen so far is joe bidens biggest strength is his perceived strength in the general election matchup against donald trump. Thats part of why theyre here in philadelphia. Theres a pennsylvania show from quinnipiac showing him with a clear lead over donald trump. Those two going head to head here, as donald trump speaks on monday, he will be addressing pennsylvania voters as well. Mike memoli laying it all out for us, we will stay closely trained on whats happening there and let you know when joe biden takes the stage. We got into a technical difficulty with Garrett Haakes picture. Hes in a car traveling Bernie Sanders do his Second Campaign of the day so we will bypass garrett and get back when we get that picture back. Rejoining me now republican strategist rick tyler and the spokesperson for justice democrats. Unfortunately, danielle couldnt stick around but im glad youre here. Walid, we spoke earlier why democrats support joe biden. The hill reports biden is breaking with obama and moving left. Does that ease some of the justice democrats concern . Can he become the candidate want and the one with the best chance to beat President Trump . I think it goes to show how holding your leaders accountable, pushing and pressuring them does move the sint center of the debate in the Democratic Party. Right now the centrist was the position in 2008 and 2009. So if joe biden did do that, it would be great to see but i have no sense will he do that. But hes doubling do on rhetoric, i will not be a, quote, angry candidate. He will focus on trump and not policy. What we want to hear is he will governor through a series of life expect ensy, declining the Third Straight year in america. I dont hear joe biden talking about the systemic crises that were around before donald trump and paved the way for him to be elected. His Campaign Slogan is make America Great again, things where are great in 2015, 2014. I dont think its what we need in this moment, so many stru structural crises. And kamala harris, Elizabeth Warren, Bernie Sanders giving a very different message. Absolutely. We were told not to expect a lot of policy details with this speech coming up. Look, we have debates and a long time to run so we will see what policy is revealed, but request i a can i ask who you think has the best chance to bring President Trump . Right now giving our democracy and society and economy, those candidates whether its someone like Elizabeth Warren or Bernie Sanders or kamala harris, i think they have been doing a lot to really center a governing vision for the country, for the democratic faert party, what the Democratic Party stands for. In 2016 that was a big question asked, what does the Democratic Party stand for . Im afraid going into 2020 were still not going to be able to answer that question. Rick, we have the president , who heads to pennsylvania for his own rally that happens in two days monday. Unemployment there is now at 3. 8 , but right now Quinnipiac University has biden still with an 11point lead there. What do you make of that . Well, tell me the number again. Biden has an 11point lead there but the 11point lead over donald trump in the state of pennsylvania, but lets look at unemployment, its down to 3. 8 . You would think if its all about the economy, stupid, as people say repeatedly, lets delete the stupid, but you know what im saying, if its all about the economy, how is it donald trump is not doing better in the polls right now . Yeah, not just there but if it was all about the economy and all about the stock market and all about unemployment, donald trump would be at 70 and there would be nobody challenging him for president. The fact is he can never get out of the 30s and 40s and heres joe bidens theory of the race. Theerty of the race from him as i hear it if want someone to act like donald trump, thats not me, right. What hes saying, because races all about every election is about contrast. Hes now raised more money than everybody thought he would, he went up in the polls, not down, like everybody thought he would. Today he will check off the next box. We will see how he does with this rally. But now hes really in a head to head, hes treating this like hes in a general election with donald trump, and guess what . Donald trump is playing along. When he says to unite the country, what hes saying is if you want more four years of chaos remember donald trump had one successful trade deal, that was the deal in south korea which means americans cant buy korean pickup trucks for whatever reason, theres chaos in the middle east, theres chaos in north korea, on and on and on, and things that he listed, mike memoli, in his speech today, so thinks theory of the race by contrast is you know who i am. You know im joe biden. I was Vice President with barack obama. If you like things the way they were they were then. We will get the policy. Hes only been in the race a little monk a week. Thank you both for sticking around past the top of the hour and joining me. I appreciate it very much. Youre now able to leave. Thank you, guys. Also happening today, new reporting how the Trump Administration is grappling with the overwhelming flow of immigrants at the border. With detention facilities overwhelmed, officials planning to fly up to 3500 migrants, mostly families, from texas to california. Just yesterday hundreds of migrants were flown from southern texas to san diego, which said theyre considering sending immigrants to Processing Center that would include miami, buffalo and detroit. This morning democratic congresswoman from michigan told me police and other officials there are definitely concerned about this plan. Both sides have got to figure out how were going to come to the table, keep this nation safe, address the humanitarian issues, make sure weve got labor for where labor is needed and stop playing games. Thats what all this is, another political game. Its been two decades and we cannot deal with one of the most pressing problems addressing this nation. Also developing today, new reporting about internal clashes in the administration. This time around policy towards iran with National Security adviser john bolton clashing with secretary of state mike pompeo. And three Trump Administration officials tell the Washington Post Senior Adviser Stephen Miller tried to have another shakeup at the department of Homeland Security but the acting secretary prevented it. Just moments ago i asked former white house senior aide omarosa, how much influence does Stephen Miller have since he seems to have successfully influenced the policies. It was interesting sitting in senior Staff Meetings with him. He was always quiet. He would take in what everyone around the table was saying and say when he met the president , he would leverage that. He has gain the trust and ears of the president and thats all that matters in this game of thrones of the Trump Administration. I dont doubt whatever he wants to advance, he will get it done. And the president with very colorful language yesterday, denying yesterday theres any internal clashes. These people back here, they put out messages. Im angry with my people. Im not angry with them. They make it sound like its a conflict but put out false they say confidential sources. You ever notice, they never write the names of people anymore. Everything is a source says. There is no source. The person doesnt exist. The person is not alive. Its [ bleep ]. [ bleep ]. Joining me now, reporter from axios and abigail from vanity fair. Good to see you both. Abigail, you have been reporting on this push between bolton and iran. One official telling you bolton knows how to get what he wants and venezuela is an example of that and the president assisting these calls. What is your assessment of the dynamic of clashing . I think one thing the president made very clear when it comes to Foreign Policy is he isnt interested in getting roped into another long, drawnout war in the middle east. One of the things with john bolton is john bolton is an id log. John bolton is hawkish on iran and supported regime change as recently as last year. When youre looking at him and what hes pushing for, john bolton has a view of what should happen with iran and what should happen in the middle east that might conflict, of course, with the way donald trump views it. The way donald trump is trying to approach it as demaker in chief, negotiator, the idea donald trump believes can he sit down at a table with people and strike a great deal and thats how hes viewing it. When john bolton has a very different view on what is going on with iran and this is creating internal conflict within the administration. Then you have mike pompeo, secretary of state, who many view as sort of a little bit of a sycophant, yes man to the president , who is really aligning himself much more closely with Donald Trumps views on what should happen in the middle east. Even though hes also viewed as a hawk when it comes to iran. Steph, theres an example of an apparent conflict. You have Senior Adviser Stephen Miller with another shakeup at the department of Homeland Security and acting secretary blocks it. Whats your take of all of the infighting and intreating in the west wing . I think its interesting om rossia pointed out Stephen Miller is someone in the white house who cares a lot and put a lot of effort into what he thinks should happen with immigration in the u. S. Its interesting the secretarying secretary mcaleenan pushed back on that. And Kristin Nelson was not afraid to push back on the white house when they tried to interfere. It seems mcaleenan won this one at this point but whether theres increasing tension, especially as the issue at the border increases, well have to keep an eye on that. Lets discuss the imgraegs proposal from thursday. You hear because you want the white house to represent not just republicans. What mr. Kushner and his team laid out was only two points. There was nothing in there about daca or asylum fixes or program workers. We need to address the humanitarian crisis at the border. This plan doesnt do that. How big of a letdown is this for the white house . It is interesting the white house decided to focus on two aspects of immigration that dont really approach the issues that are most pressing right now. They didnt touch much on it before or process of asylum. They are not touching on the undocumented population. Theyre not touching on daca, the issue democrats in particular have felt strongly on and have been the one piece of immigration that united republicans and democrats, deciding we need to get this figured out. What the white house did was focus on the Legal Immigration system. What theyre thinking about this according to Senior Administration officials, lets focus on things theres more agreement over. Lets focus on the issues maybe we can get people to cooperate with but arent as high lit emotional in dealing with the issues that we are seeing politicized in the moment. I think youre right, it was a letdown for a lot of people. I dont understand why were not dealing with daca now and undocumented documentation. I want to get your reaction on another headline, that being democrats reportedly frustrated by their stalled investigations into the president , raising the specter of imposing fines over subpoenas. What is the likelihood of that happening . Democrats i have spoke with on the hill are incredibly frustrated by what they see as blanket stonewalling by the administration when it comes to oversight request and congressional inquiries. You are going to see them start to take steps to increase pressure on the white house, whether thats putting more witnesses in contempt, that are refusing to appear before congress, or also just seeking further documents. But one of the things they will i think focus on in the coming weeks is continuing to sort of put the spotlight on the lack of cooperation from the white house, whether thats through Holding Hearings where the witnesses dont showed up or having very contentious hearings where theyre drawing this out. I think what theyre really going to do and one of the strategies at this point and what they see as the greatest argument in their favor is this isnt a white house being traditionally selective in terms of the battles that theyre fighting with congress. This is a blanket stonewalling where theyre refusing, as donald trump has said in his own words, every request, every congressional inquiry. That will be what they present as they move forward whether it reaches impeachment proceedings or other legal cases or actions they bring. I think one of the things democrats as incredibly frustrated as they are are going to continue to highlight the fact this white house is being unprecedentedly uncompromising and stonewalling these requests. Abigail tracy and steph, it was great to talk to you both. Thank you very much. Coming up next, new snapshot on President Trumps finances and how come businesses are taking a financial hit. And we will take you to philadelphia when joe biden begins speaking at his unite america kickoff rally. Lly. music throughout its toughcold turkey. King so chantix can help you quit slow turkey. Along with support, chantix is proven to help you quit. With chantix you can keep smoking at first and ease into quitting so when the day arrives, youll be more ready to kiss cigarettes goodbye. When you try to quit smoking, with or without chantix, you may have nicotine withdrawal symptoms. 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The report says the overall picture is mixed some areas losing revenue and others making gains, all of it feeding questions about mixing profits with politics. Joining us is the author of that report, msnbc and political analyst as well. You bring us great stuff. Its always about dollars and cents which seem elusive in many ways. First, david, give us the background on what these Financial Disclosures do and dont cover. Thats a great question. They are our best annual look at the state of the president s finances. But they are incomplete. They dont tell us if theyre making money but just the revenue they are bringing in. Thats one piece of the financial picture. Can you tell some things, how did the revenue in his golf courses and hotels change from year to year . In general the combined revenue went down from 2017 to 2018. Again, we dont know what that means for profits and losses but there were high points for him. High points generally coincided with places he visited. Places that could sim plis italy sell access to the president , along with golf. Specifically earlier this week you wrote about trumps doral resort and steep decline that took place after the president took office. What is status of that . What happened there and where does it stand now . Doral is the opposite of what i just talked about. This is a place that has to survive with trumps name but cant sell access to the presidency. He never goes there. His people never go there. Theres no way by going there you will run into the president and put an idea in his ear. What we found looking at data the Trump Administration gave himself to Miamidade County in florida was a steep deliecline after he got into the president ial election. So the money left over after paying expenses dropped by 69 at the time. The reason for the decline, the Trump Organization hired a representative to tell the county what accounted for this decline and she said its clear, the reason for the decline is trump. Hes that unpopular. Youre saying branding, the name trump lost value, you dont hear that much from somebody who has this kind of a position and association with trump, right . Right. Its real liely interesting. She was so clear in the meeting, the answer is trump, hes the reason were in decline. But if you ask the Trump Organization, eric trump himself, no, of course not. Every property they have a different excuse, never the trump name. In chicago its because of gun violence n miami the resort is poor because of zika and the weather. They have an excuse every time. For them, its never the name. You write specifically zika in 2016 and storms in 2017 and 18 is accounting for theory deduction of profits in florida but you also point out no with regard to numbers, statistically all of the other competing resorts in the area showed, competing resorts in the area, same region there, still outperformed the trump resort in key metrics of room, occupancy and average room rate. Thats right, and in chicago where supposedly gun violence is driving people away from the entire city, thats why the trump hotel had gone down in the Trump Organizations opinion. Where is it going on, the gun violence . Right in the downtown beautiful location. And trumps competitors in miami and chicago, that should have borne the same costs, suffer the same trends, didnt. They outperformed trump. So maybe Something Else is at work there. Im curious, how is this different from what congress wu wants to learn from the president s tax returns. Its a lot different. The information we have from trump doral is good, better than information we had before because it shows profits and losses but its just one business. Its just one business. What trumps tax forms would show you how does it all fit together . Do is he making or losing money overall . How is he reporting it to the irs . Theres a whole picture instead of little snapshots would you see from the returns. I do want to say there are places he had gains, you alluded to them, but specifically places where he owns building. They do not have the trump name. Gut theres one in new york and one in San Francisco that are profitable. And may have reported gains n case the president said look at the media, they never report the good stuff. Thats good. Well give it to you. On the legal front, coulds they disclosures give lawsuits alleging the emoluments allegations ammunition . The clause that the emoluments have honed in on, the d. C. Firm from the white house, they are concern about trump going business with foreign governments. We know hes done business with foreign governments. Constitution says he cant take payments from foreign governments. The emollient concern is it went up in 2018. And its actually a lot up because what happened in 2017, the inauguration. Any hotel that outperformed had a really, really good year last year. David fahrenthold, come back any time. 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So shop now any moment now we expect joe biden to take the stage and speak at his unite america kickoff rally in philadelphia. Of course, once gets to the podium, we will bring you all of his remarks. Again, we expect that to happen pretty soon. Hes running seven, eight minutes behind. Shortly he will be there and we will take you there. With me now peter everson, and contributing host for fox medias consider it and caylee mcnene, the press secretary for trumps 2020 campaign. Big welcome to all of you. What do we expect to hear, joe biden the mott rid . Joe biden the progressive . Do we know where hes positioning himself on that spectrum yet . Yes, its joe biden im not go win and beat donald trump. 45 and older, progressive moderate is not mutually exclusive. So joe biden is going to try to pass the litmus test but the majority of democratic priority voters to win. Theres another poll that has to do with age and with that you cant make a new number. At the end of the day it seems whats driving most of the voters is a question of who can beat donald trump down the road . Democrats now have a huge problem, huge challenge. If they dont nominate Bernie Sanders, they will lose x number of voters and if they nominate Bernie Sanders, theyre going to lose y number of voters. It as big dilemma. Caylee, lets talk pennsylvania specifically. The president wants to put up a fight through that battleground state but early polls, as you know, have him now playing defense. Quinnipiac university, it has him trailing joe biden by 11 points. First of all u. What does t, wh campaign attribute that to . Polls also had President Trump losing in pennsylvania, wisconsin and he won. These are not republican straights, these are trump states. We dont believe that polling is an accurate summation of what a vote total would look like in pennsylvania. We will run a hard race against joe biden. We heard what we will hear from joe biden but what we wont hear is this was the worst economic recovery under joe biden. We lost 211,000 manufacturing jobs, many there in pennsylvania, he supported tpp and nafta. The people of pennsylvania have a lot of betrayal they will be hearing about from the trump dpan. Understandably. But looking at the poll of the snapshot 11 points behind, and this is not necessarily a republican state but trump state. Why is he not in a better position when put up against joe biden right now . Because joe biden has done a really good job putting up a facade that hes working class joe, hes for the manufacturing but his record doesnt tell that story, as i just explained. President trumps record by contrast does. He added 500,000 jobs. When the facts are shared and peoples paychecks are growing, we will see a different story. If it even is joe biden, im not convinced he will be the nominee, we will see more as it gets closer to november. We got a long way to government 23 candidates officially and who knows, others could jump in. But how many socalled antitrump republicans do you think would be willing to Cross Party Lines and vote for joe biden if it came down to a race between donald trump and joe biden . I think a significant number. From my vox show consider it i was just in New Hampshire a couple of weeks ago speaking with university of New Hampshire professor who studied electoral politics. What he said was theres a growing and increasing percentage of people with gopleading independents and moderate voters who are concerned about trumps pronouncement who did vote for him over Hillary Clinton in 2016 combust wou but would more likely vote for a centrist democrat in 2020, including joe biden. When you look at the wall wall states that trump was able to defeat hillary in, the margins he won were not that great. So the right candidate, perhaps such as joe biden, he could diminish that margin. I know peter mentioned if its not Bernie Sanders, somebody else that person would lose some votes, but i think you do make up those votes poinlly, again, with independent voters and some of those moderateleaning republicans who are concerned about some of the president s positions. So do you want to respond to that . Keep in mind surmichael is a republican consultant. How much do you worry about those republicans that are not in the trump camp crossing the line for someone who might be seen as a moderate, joe biden or another candidate . We dont worry about that when we see the president of the highest known Approval Rating than noir president in modern history than george w. Bush during 9 11. More than bush mccain or romney. We have republicans. What we want to see are more democrats come over and we noticed an interesting trend in our polling post mueller, weve seen 6 , 7 democrats come our way because theyre waking up and see their party misled them. Joe biden, right now we view him as an empty suit who hasnt been asked any hard questions. Weve got a long road ahead. He has a lot of hard questions to answer about the Mueller Report and many others. It appears not just pennsylvania is this time leaning left, you got analysis by priorities u. S. A. Which says democrats would also win michigan and wisconsin based on its latest model. What does the Trump Campaign think trump voters in these states are turning away from . We dont think theyre turning away. We have a much bert pollster, much better data operations which we bring any of those models which were wrong, brad cardscale, the mastermind around 2016 who said we think nevada, New Hampshire, new mexico are new states in place. He said if the election were held today, he would win two of the three states. We dont see us hemorrhaging states. By contrast, we see us picking up states and i put my stock in the guy who won 2016, not pollsters who were wrong all along. I want to go to a poll that could affect the race, republicans efforts to turn roe v. Wade. Who benefits more from this issue moving center stage now, democrats or republicans . I was in montgomery, alabama, all week by coincidence. I will defer to kevin mccarthy, minority in the leader of the house of representatives from republicans who said it wok republic would be republicans it would hurt. But i like to focus on the human being iz talked to in alabama, human beings reined cannot abort the fetus, incest victims cannot abort the fetus. Those are usually poor women who cannot leave the state of alabama and go to another state. Middle class white women can go to another state for an abortion. The impact is enormous. I talked to a whole variety of people. At the end of the day it is the healing cost of this and the irony is for a president and party that is supposed to keeb government out of peoples lives, theyre not only going in peoples bedrooms but what a womans route russ can and cannot done. You know what, since joe bidens running late, were going to take a quick break and pay a couple bills. I hope all three of you stay right there because we will pick up this conversation on the other side. Em the same, but some give their clients cookie cutter portfolios. Fisher investments tailors portfolios to your goals and needs. Some only call when they have something to sell. Fisher calls regularly so you stay informed. And while some advisors are happy to earn commissions whether you do well or not. Fisher investments fees are structured so we do better when you do better. Maybe thats why most of our clients come from other money managers. Fisher investments. Clearly better money management. You wouldnt accept from any one else. 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As i said, theyre just running a little late. Fortunately i have theater risk people to join me here and keep the discuss going. Peter, shermichael and caylee. We will pick up on the abortion discussion. The alabama abortion ban, no exemptions for rape or incest. Its drawing pretty strong reaction from both sides, and that would include the Republican House minority leader kevin mccarthy, said the lack of exemptions goes against Congressional Republicans record. Do you think alabamas ban is a strategic mistake . You know, i personally am for the exceptions. We have a right away of views in our party. The president has been clear since the last campaign hes for exceptions for rape and incest and life of the mother. That being said theres no more prolife president. I think this argument needs to be asked of democrats. We had nearly 60 million abortions in this country since roe v. Wade. Thats nearly a sixth of the United States population eviscerated and now were talking about abortion until birth in new york and other states. You had 44 United States senators vote against keeping an infant alive outside of the womb. Think about that. This is a tragedy. Were talking about the loss of human life, viable apart from the mother. Democrats are losing on this issue. This is a prolife president. Im glad to hear party mention the human cost of this because the real human cost is the 12,000 babies each year who are killed when they feel pain in a lateterm abortion. Bottom line, you think the president agrees with Kevin Mccarthys position here, this one went too far . Do you think the president plans to speak out about this . I cant say what the president plans to do but i will say hes said repeatedly hes for those three exceptions. He said that going back to 2016. Shermichael, dont these abortion bans stand in contrast with conservatives interests in Smaller Government . That is a very interesting question, alex. I do suppose one could argue if you do believe in limited and Smaller Government, then the belief that one should maintain compete autonomy over themselves would mean government should not be able to dictate that. So i guess in one way, one can answer yes. But look, im a conservative and i am prolife. But i do think this is a very interesting debate that were having right now because if the underlying question here is whether or not we want to decrease the number of people who are having abortions per year, i think a better policy solution would be number one, having a better sex education, starting younger ages. Number two, we should also provide perhaps condoms, perhaps plan b pill as an option. Perhaps we should provide Birth Control as an alternative. If you educate people and provide people with better resources, then there wouldnt necessarily be a reason for individuals to rely so much so on abortions. So i think we should get as conservatives smarter about how we address this issue from a policy position. Peter, the camera hasnt been on you but i know you have been shaking your head throughout this discussion. Weigh in on this where you stand and where you think democrats stand in jirnl. Generally its the poor, undereducated that suffer. And when shermichael said is absolutely true. Of course, the other aspect of it is caylee is speaking on behalf of the campaign. As such shes representing a president who ha documented lying over 10,000 times. Shes perpetuating lies that want to kill people at the end of pregnancy its true. 24 consequently, theres going to be a cometofact moment at some point. But having been in alabama, having seen what this is going to do with people that ultimately survive the challenges in court, all the way up the Supreme Court, i agree what shermichael said is the practical humane why rather that were this idea somehow were going to bring the democrats, rather than taking responsibility for stuff, thats the trump way. I forgot, sorry. Peter, i know you dont want the democrats to have done what they have done but the facts dont lie. Thats new york senate gave a standing ovation of course, you do lie and consequently i have no interest in discussing this with you because you lie all the time. Let her finish, peter. We all know add hom anyone arguments are the last line of attack. Abortion until birth was passed. 44 Senate Democrats voted against to keep alive after an abortion act that keeps a baby who survives an abortion alive. 44 democrats. And mean while you look in the legislation across the nation, not just new york, merely a dozen states, abortion until birth. And govern northam said keep the baby comfortable, let the mom decide. The baby is outside of the womb. This is your party. These are hard facts to grapple with. I get it. It is hard four, peter, but the facts still exist. Alex if i could say it is hard for me to listen to lies, that is all. If i should say, good policy should yield to definitive answers about how we address problems. Im conservative and prolife and that doesnt mean what were seeing in alabama and other states are the best way to approach this problem. Again you got to better educate people. Our young people in particular and you have to provide resources so individuals dont feel this is the only way to go or direction if you will, i. E. , having an abortion. And i think you have better education, you have the resources, the young ladies and young men will be able to say, you know, lets practice safer sex or if there is an incident, make sure youre on Birth Control or plan b. Is accessible to people of color and people who are poor. Again, that is a more practical approach to addressing this issue, not encroaching on peoples rights to have autonomy over their bodies and as a conservative im extremely appalled by and i question and i think republicans in alabama are on a charge that could potentially impact National Elections by mobilizing women to come out against republicans down ballot. Peter and shermichael and kayleigh, i want to look the at the sprint and to the left of the screen, we are seeing dr. Jill biden and shes addressing the crowd via video. Lets go quickly to mike memilly is this where joe biden comes on stage . Is this the big introduction were waiting for. Reporter their introducing dr. Jill biden behind me as they speak. They played a video paying tribute to the founding origins of the country and part of the argument for why they are here in and we expect her to speeg for a few minutes and then bring joe biden. And she is stepping on the stage now. It is a very paireddown program. Weve seen some of the announcement events from the other candidates with a whole cavalcade of speakers and some elected officials who have endorsed them and local officials who know them. But what weve heard is only the head of the university of pennsylvania democrats for biden trying tone courage people to sign up for the email list and now were going to hear from dr. Jill biden here about to introduce her husband. Then were going to listen as well to this introduction. Peter and kayleigh and shermichael, good to talk to you. Here we go, everybody. Dr. Jill biden introducing her husband joe. It is so great to be home. As many of you may know, i grew up right down broad street in willow grove. Every single weekend my four sisters and i would pile into our family Station Wagon and cross the bridge to go to see my grandparents in southern jersey. My summers were spent watching the phillies with my dad and waitressing at the shore. I love you too. I watch the mummers parade and took class trips to fells planetarium, the betsy ross house and the liberty bell. Im an upper moreland golden bear and villanova wild cat. I ran the broad street tenmiler and forever fly eagles fly. So as you can see, this city is part of who i am. And no matter where i go, or where i am, i will always and forever be a philly girl. [ cheering and applause ] over the last two years so many of you have come up to me at events, in airports, in the grocery store, even on the streets, and said the same thing. Please tell joe he has to run. [ applause ] people have said that they miss his statesmanship, his ability to find common ground. They miss his diplomacy and his deep experience working with our allies around the world. They miss his courage to confront issues that matter when no one else seems to care. Like his life saving work on the violence against women act. But its not just that they miss his leadership. They miss his kindness. The way he is inspires us to keep believing that our best days are yet ahead of us. His ability to face tragedy and not give in or give up. His character, his love for our nation, again and again people have told me joe is the one who can move us forward. Joe is the one who can bring us together. We need him. [ applause ] and you know what . I agree. I miss that feeling of hope and optimism, too. But you know what, philly . Today we begin to restore that feeling. This moment defines who we are. Its a moment that we need to hear your voices. It is a moment when we need leaders with vision and character. It is a moment for someone who can bring us together. Its a moment for joe biden. [ cheering and applause ] we are starting an enormous journey today. The biden family is ready. And we will do this as we always have, as a family. And we know that all of you are with us too. [ applause ] we know that every person who told me that they wanted joe to run is going to do their part. We know youre going to talk to your neighbors, text your friends, knock on doors, get them to the polls. We need you. [ applause ] all of those Little Things add up. Together we will build this movement and together we will win. [ cheering and applause ] for as long as ive known him, joe has never given up. Never failed to see the possibilities and never had any doubt about who hes fighting for. As long as he has the privilege of serving this nation, i know from the bottom of my heart, that he will continue to fight for you every day. So lets do this. [ cheering and applause ] please welcome my husband joe biden. [ cheering and applause ] [ cheering and applause ] hello, philadelphia. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you, thank you, thank you. [ crowd chanting ] thank you. Thank you. Folks, thank you, jill. Im joe biden and im jills husband. Yall think im kidding. Thats how im identified. Everyone knows jill is a

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