carolina, delaware, maryland, new jersey and virginia. we'll go live to south carolina for a firsthand look there. meanwhile, the u.s. coast guard will resume aerial searches at daylight in bohemian waters for a cargo ship. it lost contact as it tried to navigate through hurricane joaquin. it had reported taking on water. >> the concern was it became disabled in the eye of hurricane joaquin. so they were in a dangerous situation. they were disabled. we knew they were listing. so all day yesterday, we tried to establish communications with them. we have not been able to do that. >> well, parts of the bahamas took a direct and extended hit from hurricane joaquin. we have three reports for you. sarah dahl lop, and tom costello and bill karins. bill, what's the latest on the path? >> i'll give you the quick update on joaquin and get to the immediate threat in the southeast united states. so here's what we're dealing with joaquin. it is beginning to exit the bahamas, so that's good news. we'll get the devastating pictures today. i'm sure they'll send the boats and helicopters in to the island that was hit by the category 4 hurricane for two straight days. here's the path of the storm. the only concern is what effects it will have on bermuda. it may brush bermuda, but a glancing blow. hopefully, no destruction there. let me explain what base going on in the southeast. this shows you the amount of water in the atmosphere, the yellow and green shows you a ton of moisture. that's joaquin. the red shows you where the dry area is. that's why it's a beautiful day in the area of the panhandle of florida and most of the sunshine state. but we have what we call an atmospheric river. so picture, you know, the water in the air, you can't see it. not like real water, but droplets of water. that's going to flow around this cutoff low. this cutoff low is responsible for the historic rainfall. the possible in one or 200 event, into south carolina. because it's going to draw the moisture from joaquin up into south carolina. this is a hose that's going straight into the carolinas. it started yesterday in eastern north carolina. they picked up a foot of rainfall just in the north and to the east -- to the west of wilmington last night. that's why we still have flood watches for this area. we already have a couple of flash flood warnings for the charlotte area and for charleston. they picked up six inches of rain alone last night. it will pour all day today. you can see here's that river of air. literally a river of heavy rain and thunderstorms, charleston is in the middle of it right now. if we get this historic flooding which i do expect it will be in this vicinity. up from charleston up to columbia and charlotte should dry out later this afternoon. this is in addition to the six inches that's already fallen. another ten inches possible in charleston and columbia and myrtle beach another seven to eight inches. we're starting to see minor flooding. when we get another possibly six to 12 inches of rain today, that's when the water starts to go into the rivers and we'll have major flooding concerns today. >> yeah. this seems relentless. we mentioned columbia, south carolina. let's go there right now. nbc's sarah dollop is right there. you heard a one in 500 year rain event there. how are things looking? >> reporter: well, right now, alex, we are in the wait and watch stage. although as you heard bill say we're expecting record rainfall totals here in columbia. some are forecasting record amounts of rain, perhaps in the teens. already one death in south carolina is being attributed to this nasty weather. the officials are headquartered here in columbia. to prevent more tragedy the governor of the state is saying a storm the likes of which the state has never seen before. no evacuations have been ordered. we are here live in a popular business entertainment district here and it's historically been seen flooding. and a number of events have been cancelled. here in the city and actually throughout the state, the greek festival was cancelled. football games here in columbia cancelled yesterday. officials are hoping that encourages people to stay home off water logged and potentially deadly roads here in south carolina. >> thanks, sarah. thank you for doing that. let's go now to ocean city, maryland. that's where nbc's tom costello is right now. looks like some stormy waters behind you, tom. good morning. >> yeah, good morning to you. it isn't bad here in ocean city, maryland. we have a nine to 11 foot height on the surf right here. winds at about 20 or 30 miles an hour. the only concern here on the eastern shore of maryland is some flooding we have seen on the south side of the island. we have only a dozen streets or so we have seen flooding in the last 24 hours or so. these are low lying streets. what happened the water blows in from the back bay, not the ocean side, but because of the heavy winds we have seen here, that water has been unable to retreat. so as a result, we have had about a dozen streets with water up to i would say the top of the wheel well on vehicles. we had to close some of those down. this is is a high tide phenomenon. this happened yesterday at about 11:30 in the morning, it may happen today at 12:30 or so when high tide comes back. we are expecting later in the day to see more rain here on the eastern shore of maryland. but the concern is not a hurricane joaquin which is as you know well out into the atlantic ocean. the concern is just the ability of that wiater to retreat and i we get more rain, then we'll see more isolated street flooding. but there's a feeling on the eastern shore of maryland that they have certainly dodged the worst of the forecast for heavy, heavy rain. and heavy, heavy flooding. we have seen some of that. we'll see more rain today, but so far it has certainly not proven to be in any way debilitating here in ocean city, maryland. back to you, alex. >> tom costello, thanks so much. coming up a bit later in the hour, new information on the search efforts for an american cargo ship that is missing in the atlantic. meantime, new developments this morning out of roseburg, oregon. the nine victims of thursday's shooting at umpqua college had been identified. among the victims, freshmen in their first week of college and a retired teacher who had returned to teach at the school. nine of the people wounded, one student who escaped told of those horrifying moments. >> i got out of the building. i aen as far away from the building as i could. and took shelter in the campus student center. i'm very lucky. there's some people who didn't make it out of there. i just pray that their families are okay. they'll be able to cope. >> well, the 26-year-old gunman was killed in an exchange of gun fire with police. officials confirm the gunman was a student at the school. for more on the investigation, we turn to nbc's jacob silveroff, you made it up there pretty quickly. what more have we learned? >> reporter: yesterday, the public safety building there were lots of new information, including the name of the shooter. the sheriff here, john hanlin, insisted he won't say the name of the shooter but he did post it on the website. his name is chris harper mercer, 26 years old of oregon. he was it turns out enrolled at umpqua community college in the class in which the shooting took place. the bureau of alcohol, tobacco and firearms says the shooter owned 16 guns and nbc news is reporting according to law enforcement forces that he did suffer from mental illness. we learned a lot as well yesterday about the victims. their names, their faces and their story are starting to come out including the story of lucas iball. his family gave a statement. take a look. >> lucas loved future farmers of america. volunteering at wildlife safari and saving grace animal shelter. he was an amazing soccer player. he graduated from roseburg high school with high academic marks. he was a ford family foundation scholarship recipient. he was an umpqua community college scholar recipient. he was studying chemistry. >> reporter: unbelievably sad, alex. and something that hit the community particularly hard that was revealed yesterday during the press conference was that two of the victims were family members of the first responder community here. >> yeah. that one took it pretty hard. jacob, thank you for being on the scene. we'll see you again. coming up at the bottom of the hour we'll learn more about one man from the oregon scene. his moment of heroism and how his 6-year-old son played into it. also coming up, the controversial comment jeb bush made about the shooting in oregon and how his campaign is reacting to the backlash. when you're not confident your company's data is secure, the possibility of a breach can quickly become the only thing you think about. that's where at&t can help. at at&t we monitor our network traffic so we can see things others can't. mitigating risks across your business. leaving you free to focus on what matters most. ♪ everything kids touch during cold and flu season sticks with them. make sure the germs they bring home don't stick around. use clorox disinfecting products. because no one kills germs better than clorox. want bladder leak underwear that try always discreet underwear and move, groove, wiggle, giggle, swerve, curve. lift, shift, ride, glide, hit your stride. only always discreet underwear has soft dual leak guard barriers to help stop leaks where they happen most and a discreet fit that hugs your curves, you barely feel it. always discreet underwear so bladder leaks can feel like no big deal. because hey, pee happens. get your free pair and valuable coupons at always discreet.com each sheet is 75% more absorbent charmin ultra mega roll equals mega value. so you can use less with every go. which means charmin ultra mega roll lasts longer than even the leading thousand-sheet brand. enjoy the go with charmin. 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that we can't stand up to the nra and the gun lobby and the gun manufacturers they represent. >> reporter: but in an interview with chuck todd, donald trump struck a very different tone. >> guns, no guns it doesn't matter. you have people mentally ill and they'll come through the tracks. >> reporter: and jeb bush raised eyebr eyebrows. >> there is always a crisis and it's not always the right thing to do. >> i think the american people should hear that and make their own judgments. >> reporter: after sandy hook, the families pushed for expanded background checks but that couldn't pass congress, defeated by republicans and red state democrats. arguing it could threaten their right to bear arms. another factor -- the powerful gun lobby. >> politically difficult for members of congress because the people opposed to changes in gun laws are willing to work and donate and do things that defeat members who go the other way. >> reporter: now, as for jeb bush's comments his campaign is pushing back against critics this morning saying, quote, it is sad and beyond craven that liberal democrats aided and abetted by some in the national media would take his comments out of context. taking shameless advantage of a horrific tragedy is wrong and only serves to prey on people's emotions. now, meanwhile, as for that debate over gun laws the political climate is even tougher now since 2012. congress has added more pro gun lawmakers to its ranks. alex? >> okay, kristen welker. be nice to see the manchin toomey bill return to the hill. let's bring in the president, as i welcome you, bob, he talked about the inaction on the gun inaction. can you see any way that congress can be moved on this issue? >> i don't, alex, especially as we head into the 2016 election. you have a republican senate and house that is looking to guard the second amendment. so unless they did something very narrow like a mental health education bill that was part of that background legislation, i don't see it happening. so any sweeping legislation, i just don't see congress acting any time soon. >> here's the deal. john harwood mentioned it, about how you have those in favor of gun rights. i mean, they lobby, they raise the money. how is there such a disconnect between the people we elect to congress to represent our views and the 93% of the american population that wants to see something done? where's the disconnect? >> well, some of it might be in the redistricting of house races and a lot of members have been gerrymandered into districts that are very, very conservative. or very, very liberal and very few districts that make up the house really are down the middle. very few. that's why there are few competitive house races and that's why democrats and some republicans have called for major reforms because as you mentioned, the background check, manchin toomey does attract the support in polls but it failed in congress. and that was a face-off between the president and nra and the nra won that and frustrated the president. >> stuff happens. do you think jeb bush is able to shake that comment off, no matter how much he tries to clarify? >> i'll tell you, alex, it's just a pattern with bush. he's had a lot of misspeaks or gaffes, whether it's on women's health or the bush dynasty or the iraq war where he's had to clarify comments. so this is another one. and i think it's a big reason why jeb bush is in single digits in early states. this is a key stretch for jeb bush. he needs to get some momentum. momentum that has alluded him. he has not done well in the debates. he has the missteps. unless he sharpens his game very quickly, he is not going to do well in this 2016 race. >> but bob, what's the difference between jeb bush and his verbal missteps and donald trump and his flagrant verbal missteps? >> no, i think that's a very good question. i mean, certainly donald trump has had very controversial comments ranging from carly fiorina's face to john mccain not being a war hero and the list goes on and on, but he's a bit of teflon. voters seem -- at least some voters like donald trump and a lot of voters that we have talked to and donors are a little bit tired of the bush name. and it has nothing to do with jeb bush necessarily as a politician, but he's not getting the pass that donald trump does. it's got to frustrate the bush backers. >> let's move to syria. now that vladimir putin and russia have stepped into the picture there what's different? how much does that complicate things? >> i think it complicates things tremendously. i mean, vladimir putin has had the u.s. -- surprised the u.s. in a number of fronts whether it was the crimea offensive or whether it was the new pact with syria and iran. it has u.s. policymakers including the white house and the president trying to figure out how to get the upper hand. this is -- this is a potential dangerous situation where you have russia and the u.s. not on the same page. but in the same area and you never know what can happen in war and whether it's russia offensive or a u.s. offensive. and the two mix. this is a very dangerous situation. >> absolutely. bob cusack, thank you in the hill. coming up something you might have missed yesterday. he expressed his true feelings about pope francis. h lie here... looks like we have some sort of sea monster in the water hazard here. i believe that's a "kraken", bruce. it looks like he's going to go with a nine iron. that may not be enough club... well he's definitely going to lose a stroke on this hole. if you're a golf commentator, you whisper. it's what you do. if you want to save fifteen percent or more on car insurance, you switch to geico. it's what you do. this golf course is electric... where our next arrival is... red carpet whoa! toenail fungus!? 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>> reporter: well, good morning, alex. with first light those search planes are going to be back up flying over the atlantic looking for any sign. they know that the ship was taking on water. they know that the eye of hurricane joaquin went very close to this ship's last known position. today, families are holding on to hope that somehow those crew members were able to hold on through the storm. >> we don't know their status. 140 mile per hour winds, it could have destroyed all their communications equipment. >> reporter: missing at sea, the cargo ship with 33 crew members including 28 americans disappeared during hurricane joaquin. just as the powerful storm was delivering punishing winds, floods and torrential rains to the bahamas. it set off from jacksonville, florida, tuesday night and it was expected to reach san juan, puerto rico, friday, but instead it vanished near crooked island. the coast guard received a distress call from the cargo, saying it took on water. >> when you're disabled at sea you're totally vulnerable to the sea state. and there's between 20 and 30 foot waves out there. >> reporter: the ship has not been heard from since. the maritime company that owns it says that the captain has extensive experience and wouldn't take unnecessary risks. >> the captain knew the conditions, and communicated back to our headquarters, you know, his -- that the conditions were as he saw them then very favorable. he was very confident the ship was doing well. >> reporter: all of this doing little to comfort family members praying for their loved ones' safe return. >> we want them home safe and sound. we need everyone's prayers. >> reporter: you know, you hear from those family members and you remember that these are dads and these are husbands, alex, who are lost. most of the family members were here in jacksonville already. those who weren't are being flown in so they be here. get the latest updated information on any search efforts and hopefully some good news today. we'll continue to keep you updated as we go through the day today. >> pretty frightening times, thank you so much from jacksonville, kristen dahlgren. roseburg, oregon is in mourning today in the wake of the tragic shootings. townspeople have turned out in the outpouring of support for the victims and their families and nbc's jacob rascon is there this morning. what more details are we learning, new ones about the shootings? >> reporter: alex, we know the identifies of the victims and that the shooter was a student who arrived on campus during the first full week of classes determined to commit mass murder. investigators say chris harper mercer, 26, attended a school for emotionally troubled children. he was kicked out of the army. and became a loner, obsessed with mass killings. blogging about gaining notoriety. he left six guns and a document at the scene. according to those who -- he said he would be welcomed in hell, embraced by the devil. authorities are taking a personal stand. >> let me be very clear. i will not name the shooter. >> reporter: all nine wounded are expected to survive. among the dead are four teenagers, alka res, eibel, kearns and quinn cooper who said their lives were shattered. sarena moore, and jason johnson who had completed a rehab program and was back on his feet. >> he was proud of himself. he was proud of what he was doing with his life. >> reporter: kim dietz was taking classes at the same time as her daughter who survived. levine is the only professor killed in the rampage. heartache and now healing as several police agencies investigate why yet another mass killing in american and the deadliest school shooting in oregon history. >> i'm very lucky. there are some people who didn't make it out of there. >> reporter: investigators of course are still looking at a motive, but one thing seems clear. the shooter wanted to be infamous. investigators found seven additional guns at the shooter's house. all purchased legally. alex? >> okay. jacob rascon, thank you for that. in addition to all of the victims we're also learning more about one of the heroes. chris mintz is a 30-year-old student and army veteran who was shot multiple times as he charged straight at the shooter, even telling the shooter that it was his son's birthday. the mother of chris' son had this to say about his bravery. >> my son is special needs, he's autistic. we're not sure what he'll understand about this. but he still gets to kiss his dad and gets to hug his dad. and if anything, he has more of an immense reason to be so proud of his father. for being so giving to others. could lost his life and i think that he would have been ready for that. >> well, my next guest said it's people like chris mintz and not the shooter who should be the focus of the attention. joining me is michael daily, special correspondent with the daily beast. you repeat this phrase, i think it's catchy and great. forget the zeros, remember the heroes. i'll take my cue from you, the sheriff and the president and not mention the name of the shooter. what impact do you think it will have focusing on the heroes out of tragedies like this? >> we hope it will have some impact. what makes this particularly -- particular zero a little different is that he was very explicit about what he was looking to do. he said that he noted that if you spill blood, you become somebody. then he proposed a formula by which he said the more people you kill, the more limelight you get. so if you accord him any attention at all, you become party to it, whether you want to or not. and it's just -- i'm not sure it will make a difference. not making his name, but you hope over time that if we can change the culture to where you don't get limelight, more limelight for the more people you kill, that will make somebody less likely to do it. that's all you can hope. >> i know you wanted to focus your reporting on chris mintz. what did you find out about him that makes him stand out, that makes you categorize him as a hero? >> what i found out is he's a guy -- he served in the army. he was deployed to combat. he came back. he had just started school. he's studying to become a fitness instructor. he has a 6-year-old son, who actually just turned 6 that day and got up in the morning and on facebook he posted, you know, happy birthday, terik, that's his son. he went to school and then the gun fire started. and some people who say he charged right at the gunman. other people say he was trying to bar the door. but he remained there in the face of gun fire and he was shot multiple times. after he was shot, he kept saying it's my son's birthday. >> the irony of him surviving serious combat deployment only to come to a small town in oregon and be shot seven times. >> i talked to his cousin, he said well, nobody was surprised that chris ran right into the gun fire. the only thing he was surprised is of -- as you just said, that he survived combat and then in the small kind of picturesque town in oregon he ends up getting shot multiple time. >> this precedence that this sheriff has undertaken, he won't utter the shooter's name. the president doesn't think it's a good idea, you're writing about this. you're hoping this will set precedence. if so, what kind of effect do you think this might have? i mean, it's going to affect the copycaters? >> you hope so. what we have seen lately, so many of the shootings that the guys study each other. the last couple ones studied the ones who had done it before. so they're conscious about the response the culture has to what that i do. you would hope -- i even if you stop one guy from doing it, even if you save a few people from being shot, you save a few families from suffering what these families in oregon are suffering, what too many are suffering, if you stop one of those it's worth doing it. >> michael daly, special correspondent for daily beast. good to see you. well, speaking of that cousin michael spoke of, the cousin of chris mintz started an online fund-raiser to help him pay for his medical bills. listen to this, $200,000 was raised in the first few hours and now this generous gofundme total is an a astonishing, $530,000 plus. coming up donald trump's seinfeld moment. john harwood spoke about it and he joins me next. plaque psoriasis... ...isn't it time to let the... ...real you shine... ...through? 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>> well, i'm not a masochist, i'm leading every poll, i'm leading new hampshire and south carolina and leading everything. that's good. if that changed, if i was like some of these people at 1% and 2%, there's no reason to continue forward. now, if i tank, you know, sure, i go back to the business, why wouldn't i? >> well, joining me now is john harwood, cnbc chief washington correspondent. and john will be one of three moderators for cnbc's republican debate later this month. good morning. >> good morning. >> what's your assessment? do you think trump is in it for the long haul? do you think he really wants this job? couple it with other things, give me your interpretation. >> well, i think donald trump is going to be in this as long as it's enjoyable to him. i don't think he's got the -- i mean, it's evident from his career, he doesn't have the burning desire to be in government and to exercise power in government that other candidates have. that's what drives them. donald trump i think he likes the limelight. he likes money. and if you are in a position where you're laying -- spending a bunch of money for something that isn't making you feel good, i think that he was just indicating there what his rationale would be for leaving. so i think he's in a different category than some of these other candidates. he doesn't need it. and i think he's not going to stick and if it's not something that, you know, feeding him emotionally. >> yeah. let's play for the viewers how trump explained the tax plan to you. here's that. >> it's not for the rich, although the rich will benefit especially if the economy takes off. they might be better off, including me. >> huge benefits to the rich in your plan. >> benefits. we're getting rid of interests and certain things that make it too easy for people. >> almost 40%. >> if my plan takes off, great. even though we're getting rid of carrot interests it's unfair. >> but it's tiny. >> but it's psychologically important. but what happens is this. my plan is best for the middle income, for the middle class. >> so is this a huge tax break for him? people like him. what are experts saying about him and what about the national debt which he said is an issue. >> trump's tax plan is huge, it's bigger than jeb bush's and bush's was assessed by bush's own advisers as adding between 1 and $3.5 trillion to the deficit. there is no indication in what we have seen from donald trump that he's got any strategy for off setting the revenue loss which has been estimated by both the conservative tax foundation and the liberal citizens for tax justice at $1 trillion a year. $10 trillion over ten years, so there's a big hole in this. he says the economy is going to take off like a rocket ship. that you don't really have any economic modeling that supports or shows that. in terms of the distributional effect of this, much larger tax cuts for people at the top than people in the middle and below. he's taking some people off the tax rolls, so middle class families, many are already off the tax rolls. but the liability that they would be freed from is much less than the amount that people at the top are getting. he's eliminating the estate tax. cutting the top rate by almost 40% in his plan. so there are a lot of questions that are going to be raised by it. i thought it was interesting that he said the -- getting rid of the carried interest tax rate that benefits the hedge fund managers, he's talked about that a lot, it only raises $2 billion a year. remember, $2 billion a year we're talking about a trillion dollars revenue loss every year and he said it's psychologically important. i think that means, you know, when people hear it, oh, he's raising taxes on people at the top. not so much. >> i do want to play this light moment that was exchanged between the two of you. let's take a listen to that. >> like seinfeld, you have a double dip issue. >> i was out recently. somebody was dipping the shrimp into sauce. this guy weighed like 370 pounds and he had a shrimp. he dipped it into the sauce and then a second time. how did this conversation come about? >> well, my friend mark leibovitch has written a piece in "the new york times" magazine. it feels all this week but it was online before the interview and i read a reference in mark's story to trump double dipping so i asked him about it. you can see in that clip some of why donald trump has been so successful on television with "the aapprentice" and in the campaign, he's just a terrific performer and i thought it was pretty funny the way he told that story. >> so did we. that's why we played it. great interview with trump and with me. thank you so much. i appreciate it. >> you bet. new information is coming in about the people who lost their lives in that oregon college classroom. more on them in just a moment. o. so let's do something about it. premarin vaginal cream can help. it provides estrogens to help rebuild vaginal tissue and make intercourse more comfortable. premarin vaginal cream treats vaginal changes due to menopause and moderate-to-severe painful intercourse caused by these changes. don't use it if you've had unusual vaginal bleeding, breast or uterine cancer, blood clots, liver problems, stroke or heart attack, are allergic to any of its ingredients or think you're pregnant. side effects may include headache, pelvic pain, breast pain, vaginal bleeding and vaginitis. estrogens may increase your chances of getting cancer of the uterus, strokes, blood clots, or dementia, so use it for the shortest time based on goals and risks. estrogens should not be used to prevent heart disease, heart attack, stroke or dementia. ask your doctor about premarin vaginal cream. you haven't seen your bedike... in days. no, like you haven't seen a bed in weeks! zzzquil. the non habit-forming sleep aid that helps you sleep easily, and wake refreshed. because sleep is a beautiful thing. that detergand we'll have to like half thuse like double! maybe more! i'm going back to the store? 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and she said 20 years. she said when she heard the news she was devastated because she knew something was wrong. the students i spoke to on campus say they think monday is simply too soon to return to school. >> one heartbreaking story after another. morgan, thank you so much. let's he back to msnbc meteorologist bill karins. let's get the latest on joaquin. how is it looking? >> it won't be much of an issue. there is a connection to the moisture an the waves on the southeast coast but all the concerns are for south carolina, especially under the city of charleston. you're under a coastal flood warning. this is a brand-new update. they're calling for a top ten all-time high tide forecast today between 10:00 a.m. and 4:00 p.m. these could be the highest water levels in charleston since hurricane hugo in 1989. it won't be as bad as that but very significant and nothing like people have seen in the last 20, 25 years. they'll have torrential rain all day and there will be major flooding and road closures. there's flashflood warnings in this area, roads are closed all over the city. that's one of the hardest hit areas in our country right now. >> that's a wrap of this hour. we'll stay on top of the news with joaquin. straight ahead, up with steven kornacki, filling in today, richard wolf. 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