Sun, particularly in politics, everythings happened before. You know what, its right. Its true. There is nothing new under the sun. Everything about this year in politics has felt like it is so weird and so unprecedented. And sometimes i say things are unprecedented, never been like this before, but my god, it has all happened before. And if it hasnt, we should have seen this year coming based on what happened in the past. What im going to show you is from 1988. Democrats picked Michael Dukakis to run against the republican candidate, george h. W. Bush, Ronald Reagans Vice President. The democrats had their Convention First that year, july, 1988. Republicans had their convention second, theirs was this week in august, in new orleans. And this what we found today, this was nbc nightly news footage from the Republican Convention in new orleans, 28 years ago exactly. Watch this. Down there on the floor right now, with Chris Wallace is someone who has prospered enormously during the years of reagonomics. Who do you have . Thats right. One of the interesting things about any National Convention is the surprising people who show up on the floor. Here tonight real estate tycoon and best selling author donald trump. Well, thank you very much. Youre welcome. You have flirted with the idea of politics. Now youre here at your first National Convention. Does that get you interested in making the plunge . You have to tell me something, who told you i flirted . Well, you took out a full page ad in the New York Times. I feel strongly about the country. I love the country, but i think youre going to have george bush as your next friend. Hes an excellent guy and a friend of mine. Well, i wasnt talking about this year. But youve said if you ran for president youd win. I think id have a very good chance. When i do something, i like to win. I think i probably would have a good chance. Tom brokaw mentioned that you have prospered in the reagan years, and some people said he ushered in an era of greed and conspicuous consumption. Some say donald trump is a conspicuous example of that. You make no apologies about the hundredroom mansion in palm beach or the 30 million yacht. Well, i employ thousands and thousands of people that wouldnt have jobs if it werent for things that i built. Probably 25 or 30,000 people. Over a four or fiveyear period. And i think people are thankful for it. Can you laugh at the doons bury cartoons about the solid gold sinks in your yacht . Everybody tells me im supposed to be honored by that. But maybe somebody he can find another topic. But i seem to be in a lot of his cartoons. Not sure if theyre good, bad, or indifferent. But i guess im supposed to be honored. Thanks for coming tonight. Thank you. Gary bordeaux portrays georgia as the invisible man. One of bushs sons put his arm around him and looked at him with a forced smile and said, be kind here, be kind. Be kind. One of bushs sons you think that was jeb . Be kind . George w. . Maybe it was marvin, the other one, i dont know. What theyre talking about there, both in terms of trump being upset and the Vice President of the United States at the time being upset, george h. W. Bush. What theyre talking about is doons bury. The comic strip and gary trudo. You might remember, just a couple of weeks, gary trudo rereleased all of his donald trump cartoons from the past 30 years. We had him on the show to talk about it when the book came out. It went to the top of the bestsellers list. It was great. But that summer, gary trudo, he really was bothering donald trump in the weeks leading up to that convention, to that surprise interview at the Republican Convention with Chris Wallace, who at that time worked for nbc. Gary trudo was on a tear about trumps giant yacht. They used the yacht and the sort of not just conspicuous consumption, but the tackyness of the yacht as an extended story line to basically rip donald trump for being tacky. And for being pitiful and mean as well. For example, this was from that time. Its the first panel of one of the strips that came out that week. Trump on his act, talking to his captain. Look at the performance quality of this vote. You cant buy this quality, you have to will it. Do you think you can handle her, captain . Captain said, no problem, mr. Trump. Next panel, okay, thats trumps finger hes pointing there. You see that outboard over there, with the kids . Yeah, i see it. Final panel, swamp it. Piece of cake. Apparently that kind of teasing really, really bothered donald trump. Being the subject of that kind of joke 28 years ago did didnt work for him. Sort of rubbed him the wrong way. Because after all, we now know he was already thinking of himself as president ial timber in 1988. He wasnt the butt of some comic strip he didnt understand. 28 years later theyre still making fun of donald trump, but that was good foreshadowing for all of us. For us seeing donald trump would be bothered, in fact, angered by anybody making any joke about him or criticism about him in any form. Gary trudo bothered donald trump then and now. Gary trudo and doons bury also really did bother poppy bush at the time. According to the anecdote shared by tom brokaw at the convention, he bothered the whole bush family. When papi bush was running for president , gary trudo portrayed him as invisible. If you think about that in terms of the art of cartooning, thats ambitious. Invisibility is a hard thing to draw. He ended up showing george bush as this, a negative space, an exploding asteroid notation. In this case, he was shown speaking at the Republican Convention this year, just a block of space between two teleprompters. That kind of ridicule on the comics page, made the papi bush folks crazy. Not for the same reason trump was made crazy. I think the george h. W. Bush people worried about it, not because they cant stand ridicule, but because that was too close of george h. W. Bushs real image overall, or the lack thereof when it comes to an image. It was a big deal for his campaign that he was basically invisible in Ronald Reagans big, dark shadow. We know that was part of their concern about him as a candidate at the time. We know that in part because of the very next thing that happened that night on nbcs broadcast from the Republican Convention, in august 1988 in new orleans. You just saw at the start, tom brokaw tosses to Chris Wallace and they go to surprise interview, wow, its donald trump on the floor of the convention. And donald trump says in 1988, that, yeah, he thinks he might want to be president and if he does run, hell win because he always wins. Then it goes back to tom brokaw. And the next thing that tom brokaw does is bring on this guy. We want to go down to lisa meyers, who is with the media wizard of the Vice President s campaign. Yes, tom, im here with roger ailes, who has been called the Ernest Hemingway of Campaign Advisers who is immortalized in the selling of the president and tends to the Vice President s image. One of the things that even georges friends say is that one of his biggest problems is his public persona. Fixing that is your job. Are we going to see a different george bush tomorrow night . I dont think you can fix a 64yearold man whos been pretty well for himself. George bush is one of two men who is going to be president. And i think hes pretty good. I think hes underrated. I think he gets up for the big game and hes about to launch into the fall campaign. I think hell do fine. Big difference between the fight of george bush who can be warm and witty and relaxed, and the man who appears in public, sometimes awkward and inarticulate. Well, when somebody sticks Something Like this in your face and sticks a camera like that in your face and youre not used to it, you feel a little bit more uncomfortable and i dont think george was brought up with cameras. He probably never saw television until he got back from the war and graduated from college. So he didnt grow up with this equipment. And i think that makes him nervous. Thank you very much, roger ailes, who said that the one thing, if he could change something about george bush, it would be he wish he had a little more ego. Roger ailes, in 1988, already a legendary republican political strategist at that point. What about that rift that george h. W. Bush didnt see a television until late in night . Where did he come up with that . But he would go on to run fox news by the following decade. In 1988, he was running the media strategy for the george h. W. Bush r president campaign. Mx its amazing. In that interview, he said the only drag shes quoting him there, saying the only drag about working for that particular candidate in 1988, that candidate, papi bush, he didnt have enough ego. Now its 28 years later, and roger ailes appears to have that particular problem solved. Because his president ial candidate this year is donald trump. The New York Times reporting today that roger ailes have been pushed out of fox news last month, hes found a new gig, quote, advising donald j. Trump has he begins to prepare for the allimportant president ial debates this fall. The Trump Campaign immediately denied that roger ailes is on board with the Trump Campaign in any capacity, but the times say they have four different sources saying roger ailes is advising donald trump ahead of the debates and two of their four sources said that his role could extend beyond the debates. Now, on a very surface level, roger ailes, working on the donald Trump Campaign, this is both totally expected and a little bit odd. Because even though, yes, roger ailes had this phenomenally successful Political Consulting career and a phenomenally successful career building fox news into an unprecedented success, in cable news and republican politics. He built a Cable News Network into Republican Television. Even though thats his resume, or what should be on one, he was just forced out of fox news a few weeks ago because of multiple allegations of Sexual Harassment from multiple employees. So the man at the center of this controversy, is now on board while the scandal is still erupting. Thats whats odd. Whats expected about it, if theres anybody who doesnt care about that kind of a scandal, its probably donald trump. In fact, once roger ailes future at fox news started to look like that was in doubt, that he might be out of that network, a lot of people instantly connected those two dots and thought where he might land, if he got pushed out of fox news, would be with donald trump. Roger ailes, is he helping you, is he advising you . I dont want to comment, but hes a friend of mine for a long time. Ive always found him to be just a very, very good person and a very talented person. Look what hes done. But a lot of people think hes going to run my campaign. My campaigns doing well. That was right after the Republican Convention on meet the press. Even then the Trump Campaign wasnt doing all that well. In the month since then, its become clear the Trump Campaign is doing not well at all. But we do have news tonight from the Trump Campaign, that theyre about to start, finally, running their first tv ads of the general election. Apparently by friday of this week. In florida, north carolina, ohio, and pennsylvania. And also this news today from the New York Times that at least debate prep, if not more of the Trump Campaign is going to be shaped from here on out by fox news guru and republican strategist roger ailes. So these are both a big deal, right, for this campaign. And i think there are two things to watch from here on out. Number one, does roger ailes get involved, not just in debate prep, but in Donald Trumps media, in Donald Trumps ads . Now that the Trump Campaign is going to be running ads, are they going to put one of the greatest republican ad makers of all time in charge of trying to change the way america sees donald trump on television . Ailes track record on that kind of work is legendary. Hes been involved in everything from the Ronald Reagan in the morning ad, to the ad that seemed like dukakis would let all the rapists out all over the country, told papi bush to stop wearing buttonup short sleeve shirts in public so he wouldnt look like a dweeb. And he let the country know they could get their Republican Television on this one cable news channel, while slamming all other sources of news as being unbalanced because they werent rightwing like fox. Love it or hate it, it worked. So thats one thing to watch. Thats a potentially gamechanging thing to watch. Does roger ailes really get in there and take over trumps whole media strategy . The whole presentation of trump to the world . Thats one thing to watch. The other thing to watch is the debates. Supposedly hes working with him on debate prep, right . Well, one sort of forgotten hallmark of the papi bush president ial era and his role in 1988 and also in 1992 to a lesser extent, those were years where the campaigns were really nasty, really negative. On the republican side in particular, they told voters to hate the process. To, in particular, resent the media for being stacked against the republican candidate and they used those dynamics they created in the campaign. In those roger ailes campaigns. They used it to try to get their candidate out of participating in too many president ial debates. Mr. Vice president , jimmy carter has called this the Worst Campaign ever. Richard nixon has called it trivial, superficial, and inane. Whoever started down this road first, of negative campaigning, the American People from all reports coming to us, are completely fed up. Do you have any solutions to suggest, is there time left to fix it . There are 26 days left. For instance, would you agree to another debate before its all over, so that the American People so that the American People would have another chance before election day to compare you two . No, i will not agree to another debate. The American People are up to here with debates. They had 30. We had seven. Now we got three of them. I am going to carry this Election Debate all across this country in the last whatever remains of the last three and a half weeks or whatever we have. And the answer is no, i am not going to have any more debates. We dont need any more debates. The Dukakis Campaign wanted there to be four in 88. Bush agreed to two, and there were only two that year. Four years later, george h. W. Bush tried to get out of debating bill clinton altogether. Even though they had the commission on president ial debates set up the schedule and everything, they had to skip the first scheduled president ial debate in 1992, because george h. W. Bush wouldnt agree to it, didnt want to debate. That was part of the ailes strategy, the roger ailes strategy, the last time he was doing Communications Strategy for a republican president ial campaign. This year, donald trump has already sewn the seeds that he might not participate in the president ial debates against Hillary Clinton. That was before we learned that roger ailes is reportedly advising the Trump Campaign on the debates and maybe other Communications Strategy. Ive said it from the beginning, i think its been 50 50, whether or not trump shows up for the debates against clinton. With this news that we just got today, i would definitely say the odds are not getting any better. This stuff is amazing. But doesnt mean we havent seen it before. Yproof, stayproof look . Neutrogena® makeup remover does. It erases 99 of your most stubborn makeup with one towelette. Need any more proof than that . Neutrogena. When you ache and havent youre not you. Tylenol® pm relieves pain and helps you fall fast asleep and stay asleep. We give you a better night. Youre a better you all day. Tylenol®. Weve also just found out today that donald trump, republican president ial candidate is about to get his First Official cia briefing tomorrow. That means presumably that democratic candidate Hillary Clinton is about to get her First Official cia briefing as a president ial candidate as well. Although presumably shes had them before because of her time as secretary of state. Candidates for president all get these Intelligence Briefings from the intelligence community. This is one of the first years anybody has ever freaked out about it. But the reason candidates get these briefings at all, turns out to be stunning and kind of funny and it involves a u. S. President using the word screwballs, in not a nice way. That screwball story and much more, straight ahead, stay with us. Fdr, president Franklin Dell no roosevelt was sworn into his fourth term as president in january 1445, world war ii still in full swing. By april of that year, the 12th, 1945, fdr was dead. He died in office while we were still at war. His Vice President was, of course harry truman. Truman became president the day fdr died on april 12th. Truman had been Vice President for a while, and a u. S. Senator for ten years, including key roles on important committee, overseeing the military. He wasnt an understudy, he fdr, president Franklin Dell no roosevelt was sworn into his fourth term as president in january 1445, world war ii still in full swing. By april of that year, the 12th, 1945, fdr was dead. He died in office while we were still at war. His Vice President was, of course harry truman. Truman became president the day fdr died on april 12th. Truman had been Vice President for a while, and a u. S. Senator for ten years, including key roles on important committee, overseeing the military. He wasnt an understudy, he wasnt out of the loop. He was involved in u. S. Government at a high level for a long time. Even so, once he got sworn in as president , they let him be president for 12 days before anybody bothered to tell him that the United States had this little project it was working on, called the atomic bomb. 12 days into his presidency before anybody told truman that was going on. He had no idea. Truman as president went on to use the bomb, twice, against japan at the end of world war ii. He served as president for the duration of what would have been fdrs term. Was elected in his own right in 1948. He knew he couldnt serve again, two terms maximum. So in 1952, truman knew his time was up, he was out, his successor would be republican dwight eisenhower, or the democratic who was running against ike, it would be atly stevenson, the governor of illinois. So that year, 1952, looking at the end of his presidency, thinking about the shock of what he went through when he first became president , not just the shock of becoming president , but the shock of learning what he didnt know, what nobody felt they needed to tell him until long after he was already commander in chief. Truman decided that he wanted that to not happen to his successor. He didnt want his successor to have that same shock. So in 1952, after the political conventions ended and each party had their candidate, president truman sent an invitation to both candidates, inviting them to come to the white house on august 19th, 1952. Invited both candidates to come see him, come see the cabinet, but he also wanted them to get the first of what he wanted to be weekly, Intelligence Briefings, for them as candidates, from the cia. Heres the thing. Stevenson was apparently into it, but eisenhower said no. Eisenhower wrote back to president truman and said, he thought he should receive, quote, only those communications from the Outgoing Administration that could be known to all of the American People. Ike said no, he didnt want to be briefed. And truman was reportedly astonished. And president truman wrote eisenhower back and he used the term screwballs when he did it. He wrote since you wont let the cia help. So this response from truman, it had this generous, sort of helpful, patriotic ending, but it did make a very strong point, and he did start with screwballs, because he was harry truman, and after the famous screwballs letter, eisenhower relented and he got his first briefing on august 30th of that year. And thats how the whole thing started, in 1952. President ial candidates getting Intelligence Briefings, even before the election happens, so theyll know the basics as candidates, and so they wont be totally blindsided upon taking over the top job. That whole gig started in 1952, and those briefings have been going on without much controversy ever since. Now, we had thought previously that this years president ial candidates were already getting their Intelligence Briefings. Those earlier reports were not true. They havent had their briefings yet. Donald trump hasnt had his briefing yet. Today its reported that donald trump is expected to get his first briefing tomorrow. The briefings are no longer carried out by the cia. Theyre carried out by somebody from the office of the director of national intelligence. Now, its reported that trumps getting his tomorrow. We dont know if or when secretary Hillary Clinton is getting her first briefing as a candidate. We do know that the candidates are usually briefed one after the other, within a few days of each other, within a week of each other. So if trump is getting his tomorrow, we could extrapolate and say Hillary Clinton will likely have her first briefing soon, if she hasnt already. We pressed hard to get any information out of the Clinton Campaign on this issue. High told us precisely nothing. Not a peep. Just no comment and that was it. Not even any sort of instruction or anything on background. So its interesting. Its reported that trump gets his tomorrow. Clinton, were guessing. But this is the first year i can remember where theres been even remotely widespread freaking out about whether or not these briefings are a good idea this year. Whether maybe its somehow dangerous to do these briefings this year. Someone who knows whether that freakout might be justified joins us next. E it used to . Neutrogena hydro boost water gel. With hyaluronic acid it plumps skin cells with intense hydration and locks it in. For supple, hydrated skin. Hydro boost. From neutrogena if somebodys the nominee, the republican nominee for president , they need to get security briefings so that if they were to win, they are not starting from scratch. They have been told, these are classified briefings. And if they wanna be president , they gotta start acting like president. And that means being able to, you know, receive these briefings and not spread them around. Joining us now is david priest. He was an intelligence briefer in both the george w. Bush and bill clinton administrations. Hes an expert on the daily Intelligence Briefings that president s get once theyre sworn in. Hes the author of the president s book of secrets the untold story of Intelligence Briefings to americas president s. Thanks for being here. Its great to be here. But screwballs, arent you glad we dont have that political rhetoric today . Egads, really curled my hair. Theres concern this year, mostly about donald trump, although theyve tried to return fire on this too. Theres been a lot of concern expressed this year that it might be dangerous to do these Intelligence Briefings for the president ial candidates. We have been doing this kind of thing since 1952. Hait ever been a problem . Has anything bad ever happened because of this briefing process . Never. The most interesting thing weve seen happen is a candidate decide they dont need to take the briefing or asking for many briefings instead of just one or a few. Weve never seen this level of attention to these briefings before. Its a crazy year. You have one candidate who the fbi director said was reckless with classified information. You have another candidate who cant appear to control what he says publicly. When that combines with Intelligence Briefings, weve got one hell of a party to watch. We keep hearing this shouldnt be conflated with the president ial daily brief, that this is not the same level of information or as Sensitive Information as somebody who is actually president is going to get. But what does go into preparing one of these briefings . Are they going to be learning a lot of stuff they cant get from opensource news . Dont fool yourself. It will have assessments from the intelligence agencies on the hot spots around the world, where sometimes you dont get a lot of information from open sources and you rely on classified information from the cia spies, from the National Security agencys listening post, from satellite imagery. So these are going to take several stories forward a few steps for the candidates. But youre right, its not the same as the president s daily brief. What i wrote my book about, where all of the sources and methods of the intelligence are in there, the candidates are not getting that level of information. And Hillary Clinton obviously has been a secretary of state, so shes had access not to this exact kind of information, but presumably shes been briefed before on aspects of her work in the cabinet. Do we expect the briefing would be tailored to each candidate . Or do they both get the same thing . Its really both. On the one hand, they get the same material. The officers are extremely neutral, making sure theres no political bias they put into the system. On the other hand, youre briefing two different people. Somebody can receive the information and ask a lot of questions, ask about the information behind the assessments. On the other hand, somebody might just sit back, receive the briefings and not say a word until thank you at the end. So they could evolve differently. The way the Intelligence Officers try to keep it neutral, given that dynamic. They make sure questions asked in one briefing are answered not just to the candidate asking that, but to the other candidate as well. That makes sure theres no political bias inserted into the briefings. Thats interesting. That may explain some of the dynamic around why they want to brief them in a relatively close time frame. One last quick question, weve had it reported today, its not confirmed, that donald trump may be bringing Chris Christie and retired Lieutenant General michael flin with him to his briefing. Do the candidates get to bring people . Yes, they do. Traditionally the president ial candidates and the Vice President ial candidates get these briefings because theyve been nominated. But if the president ial candidate wants to bring somebody, they do get some vetting, and they get to bring a few people. Typically its been people like former heads of the intelligence committees of congress who are senior advisers or other National Security aides at a senior level. This is not unusual. But it will be fun to see what they do with this information that they receive. Right, and how they handle it. Fascinating. David priest, expert on this stuff, who briefed the attorney general, the fbi director, the National Security adviser over two administrations, george w. Bush and bill clinton. Its a pleasure to have here. Thanks for being with us. Thank you, rachel. Still ahead, what might be the diciest most nervous making political event of the day, going on right now. Stay with us. Footage from that ahead. We are waiting tonight on to win at the olympic games, Allyson Felix needs to be quicker than everybody. To win at home, she needs to be quicker than. Allyson chloe thats why Allyson Felix uses bounty. The quicker picker upper. Bounty is faster and 2x more absorbent. Bounty the quicker picker upper. Wiback like it could used to . Neutrogena hydro boost water gel. With hyaluronic acid it plumps skin cells with intense hydration and locks it in. For supple, hydrated skin. Hydro boost. From neutrogena we are waiting tonight on some news that took an unexpected turn late in the day today. Weve known for a few days now that republican candidate donald trump was scheduled to appear at a rally tonight in wisconsin. About 45 minutes north of milwaukee, in the town of west bend, wisconsin. West bend is a mostly white, somewhat distant suburb of milwaukee. This event has been on the books for a while. But now its sort of newly news worthy. Theres a couple factors here tonight now about this that make this particular trump event kind of a live wire. First, wisconsin is a little sensitive right now. Milwaukee is still totaling up the damages to property and public trust after riots over a couple of nights this past weekend. With burning and violence in milwaukee, starting after a Police Officer shot and killed a fleeing suspect. Thats been going on in milwaukee over the last few days. Thats what donald trump is walking into in the milwaukee suburbs. The other factor thats interesting and a little mysterious tonight, this trump event, just outside onedge milwaukee tonight, it was originally scheduled to be jus another donald trump rally, which is not the kind of thing we would usually cover. Instead, they made a late change. The campaign late tonight or late today, announced they would not be doing this as a rally, which they had previously announced. Instead, they will be putting their candidate on a teleprompter and having him give whats now being billed as a policy speech on law and order issues. So is this, in fact, a late change . If so, why . Are we about to get something substantively new in terms of policy from the candidate . And not to be too picky, but why are they also now running really, really, really late with this event . What is going on here . Joining us now, Hallie Jackson who is in wisconsin at this now belated trump event tonight. Hallie, thanks so much for being here. Very belated. Of course, good to be with you. Correct me if im wrong, they dont usually run more than an hour late when they have other television things that now the candidate is going to step on and other networks and stuff. Whats going on . Reporter yeah, it is unusually late for trump. Sort of a confluence of events of just how the day unfolded here in wisconsin. He had some otrs, some meetings, a roundtable this afternoon and other media events as well. The crowd, its a pretty packed house, its also about 85 degrees in here, it feels like. So youve got people that are waiting to see donald trump and ill tell you, theyre getting something unusual tonight as you notice. Look at whats behind me here. Thats teleprompters, which we almost never see at trump rallies. In fact, at trump rallies, we never see them. We see them typically at policy speeches. So, yes, this is a late change, its now a law and order speech, presumably discussing some of the events that unfolded over the weekend in milwaukee. He was in florida, he didnt talk about zika. So the fact that hes engaging on these local issues could potentially be significant. Its also a way for him, for the second day in a row, to go after Hillary Clinton. As his campaign did this afternoon, blasting with an email attacking clinton for her policies on law enforcement. Its a way for him to go after her and kind of prove that he can stay to topic. Even though he said, i am not going to pivot. So any more chatter about that, that suld be t final nail in the coffin there. With the teleprompters there, with hearing that the speech has a topic, are they telling us to expect something new, some substantive policy thing we havent heard before . Reporter i think its going to be more substantive than what we would typically see from a policy perspective at one of Donald Trumps rallies. Youre right, it is unusual for a rally. He gives these economic speeches or policy speeches, hes been doing roughly one of those a week or so for the last couple of months, since he became the Presumptive Republican nominee. But the big question for trump, when he does one of those speeches, often times what well see, the next night at a rally like this, he says something inflammatory. Last week, he came out to give the economic speech. At the rally the next night, he made the comments about the Second Amendment people taking action if Hillary Clinton were to get elected. Tonight, he wont have the opportunity to go off script, following up on that Foreign Policy speech on isis yesterday. So it could be an interesting potential strategic turn. And we will see what kind of policies he lays out here, particularly i cant emphasize this enough in light of whats been happening in milwaukee. You walk around, people are talking about it. This is fresh for people here, even though the situation has settled down some. Hallie jackson at the trump event in west bend, wisconsin tonight. Hallie, i would say enjoy yourself, but im instead just going to say thank you for your time. And we appreciate having you here tonight. Reporter thanks, rachel. Well be right back. Lots ahead tonight, stay with us. So again, were watching what is turning out to be an unexpected latenight event tonight in wisconsin. Donald trump is just north of milwaukee, wisconsin. This had been booked as a plain old trump rally. But now, more than an hour later than expected, trump is, were told, going to give a speech, a teleprompter speech on law and order issues. One of the dynamics at work with this tonight is the rioting that happened over the weekend in milwaukee, after a Police Officer shot and killed a suspect who police said was wielding a gun. That is one factor in play. This is a tinderbox hes walking into. The other factor is questions of broader electoral politics. Donald trump has been competing in some weird places recently. Hes been campaigning in maine, in connecticut. Places where even if he were doing great, he wouldnt be expected to win, let alone how terribly hes doing right now. But thats the other factor that i have questions about tonight. Does it make sense for him to be in wisconsin . Wisconsin gets talked about as a swing state, but a respected poll respected poll had him trailing by 15. Reasonably speaking should donald trump be in wisconsin tonight . Whether or not he ends up stoking the powder keg in milwaukee doesnt make sense electoral, is it in reach for him. Is it even a battleground state. Joining us now is the great political correspondent, our goto person for helping us understand this. Thank you. Sure. Thank you for doing a good job with my tv show. It makes me feel like i can go away all the time. Is wisconsin a battleground state . At this moment, no. There are two things that are going wrong for donald trump. Number one the reason he sees it as an opportunity, one of them there are a lot of those we talk about the working class white voters, white voters without a college degree, 12 points higher than the National Average there. Its potentially fertile ground. Those voters, though, are staying more loyal to democratic party, more loyal in wisconsin than they have nationally. Hes not making the enrods there he needs to. You have a Large Population of College Educated Republican Voters in suburb. Like where he is tonight. And the struggle that trump has had, weve seen this nationally with collegeeducated whites and collegeeducated republicans that is being replicated in the suburbs of milwaukee. The big number that republican relies on is hes not getting. You get those numbers at the milwaukee suburbs, hes not getting those numbers and hes not making the end roads. Why is it that in wisconsin you get republican controlled legislature, you get all of these statewide dynamics or statewide elected who are republicans but its not donald trump, right . The statistic is, not sense 84 has a republican won it. Bush came within. 2 in 2000. Theyve been on the cusp a couple of times. I was surprised in fact in 04 when he didnt win it. He was making, we saw nationally, end roads with blue collar voters. He had big jumps in other states. Wisconsin is normally a its a polarized state. In president ial years the rule has been it does vote democratic, sometimes very close. In the midterm elections thats when the republican win senate seats thats when scott walker won. Its sort of a split personality state depending on which electorate shows up. I continue to be flum exed. Its one of those, if he was looking if he wasnt down ten points nationally and hes looking at a rust belt, wisconsin and michigan are the two tests . Even if you were up it wouldnt make sense for him to go to connecticut and maine. He could get the one. If you went to that district. Steve, thanks for being here. Correspondent, were going to bring the trump speech to you because its apparently a policy speech when it starts. Theres other news to get to tonight as well, thats ahead, stay with us. More than 4 trillion gallons of rain fell this weekend in the state of louisiana. More than two feet of rain left entire neighborhoods totally under water. At least 11 people are known to have been killed since friday. More than 30,000 louisianians have been rescued from their homes. Thousands of people are still sleeping in shelters tonight. Fema today has approved major Disaster Relief for eight additional louisiana par rishs. The governor says 40,000 homes have been damaged. 75 of the homes have not just been damaged but destroyed. Local reporters say most of those people dont have flood insurance. Statewide, the toll is incredible. 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The police have been running up and down the street and telling us that we need to get out, and i guess its really moving fast. We just got told like probably about 15 minutes ago, you have to get out now. A state of emergency in california. More than 80,000 people have been forced from their homes, as the fast moving blue cut fire tears through southern california. Plus a Major Overhaul for the Trump Campaign this morning. With just 83 days to go until the election the republican nominee is shaking things up in his campaigns leadership. And Hillary Clinton is hitting back over questions about her health. With her campaign claiming donald trump is pedaling conspiracy stories. It is 5 00 a. M. On the east coast. 2 00 a. M. Out west
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