0 supreme, however, in the delivery of local news. if you want to know what is going on in your town, whether the news is about the mayor or taxes or high school football, there is no substitute for a local newspaper that is doing its job. a reader's eyes may glaze over after they take in a couple of pair grass fires about canadian tariffs or political developments in pakistan. a story about the reader himself or his neighbors will be read to the end. wherever there is a pervasive sense of community, a paper that serves the special informational needs of that community will remain indispensable to a significant portion of its residents. he could have said something else, that newspapers provide a vital oversight function in a world where everyone with a computer is suddenly a journalist, there is nevertheless a lack of primary news gathering. and local papers with their editorial pages often remain the best watchdog we have over local government. so here is hoping that the oracle of omaha's investment in american newspapers pays off. constituents at age 55. if they go back on their promise, it will be problematic for many of them. well, that's good news for democrats. you can't trust these guys anyway. john boehner, you think he cares? no, he doesn't care. when he was asked about the new medicare plan, he completely brushed it off. >> i think we'll let them work it out, and we'll see what outcome they get. >> sure, let them work it out. boehner doesn't have to commit to any changes. he feels extremely safe. as long as house districts are gerrymandered in his favor, and they are. this is why republicans continue to obstruct with plans like the ryan budget. they don't want to change the status quo when the rich are doing so doggone well. how did the market do today? well, the dow jones closed at a report high, how about that? despite a near depression four years ago, the 1% doing real well. they've seen incomes rise as much as 11% while everyone else has been staying flat. we talk about it all the time. republicans aren't going to cut a deal with president obama. they don't have to. i don't care what it's on. a deal would just empower who? that guy right there, the president. it would make him look good. that's the last thing they want to do, give him more juice on the road going into the mid terms. i know it's early, i know it is. they're just going to keep denying him any progress on his agenda whatsoever. paul ryan's latest plan, my friends, is not serious. it wants attention, so we're going to give it to them. it would hurt the nation's seniors. it ignores 46 million people living in poverty. it also does nothing to help people out when they get older. it's all to protect the wealthy and run out the clock. now, think about this. if you're 50 years old, we'll talk to the 50-something's tonight. let's just say this plan passes the house. and it will, and let's say harry reid gets it passed to the senate. let's say the president, because he wants to compromise, he goes along with this. this gives people who are 50 and maybe a little older, a little over a decade to get ready for health insurance when you're 65. now, a lot of young people don't think this way. but when you look at wages in this country and you look where the top 1 and 2% have gone, and you see where the middle class is, who in the world can put together a medicare bank account for themselves in a 10 or 12 or 13 year window and keep up with medical expenses? it's almost impossible. let me tell you something. they're the same people, the same proposals, and they are very dangerous. and so the president has really one option, to ask you for help. i would make the case that president obama needs you more now than ever if you supported him in the election, because this is what it's going to take to get change in this country. get your cell phones out. i want to know what you think. tonight's question, will republicans ever stop trying to destroy medicare? text "a" for yes. text b for no to 67622. you can always go to our blog at ed.msnbc.com. we'll bring you the results later. i want to tell you that they haven't changed. they're after the new deal. they want to cut out all the social safety nets they can, medicare, medicaid, social security. our challenge as liberals is to make sure the president doesn't give any ground and he stands strong. okay, let's take it to midterm with no progress at all. let's fight them on their turf. we'll win again. i'm joined tonight by congressman keith ellison of minnesota. great to have you with us, congressman. >> you bet. thank you, ed. >> is paul ryan serious? is he seriously going to introduce a plan to cut medicare benefits for people over 55? >> yes, he is. he is very serious. and really, at the end of the day, a budget is an expression of values. paul ryan and the republican caucus is telling you what they believe in. they don't believe in protecting seniors. they don't believe in making sure that there is a social safety net for people who face hard times. >> what do they believe in? >> well, they believe in that the rich people don't have enough and that the poor have too much. they believe that if you don't have enough money, you're not worthy, and spending government resources on you is a waste. and that's pretty much what they believe. >> and elections don't matter. they have denied what happened in november, and they are back to the same old stuff, aren't they? >> you're absolutely right. as a matter of fact, if anything, this election was a mandate for medicare, social security, and medicaid. both parties took their respective positions on these issues. the president won. they lost. but they're undaunted. they are unrepentant and absolutely committed to undermining this important program that serves so many people. >> and the progressive caucus released a budget with a complete balance of spending cuts to new revenue. why are lawmakers not taking up the charge for this budget? why aren't -- why with are we not seeing any mojo on this? >> you know what, ed? we call it the back to work budget. it's a budget that invests in infrastructure, helps local and state governments put teachers and firefighters back to work, invests in basic medical research, and asks everybody, particularly the most fortunate, to invest in america and pay their fair share. we close loopholes for the oil companies and for the jets and the yachts crew, and we do what is right by america. so why aren't we getting the attention? you asked. that's a good question. well, the fact is that the american people when they hear about our budget, they always like it. as a matter of fact, there was a business journal that took the labels off all of the plans to replace sequester, and it was a progressive caucus' plan that won the day. >> sure. >> so the fact is what we're doing is popular with the american people. we just got to get the information to the american people. so i appreciate you giving me the chance to talk about it. >> we're having you back talking about this. and we're going to detail this out, no doubt. but disagree with me if i'm wrong. boehner has made the calculation that he can run this, the four corner stall, whatever you want to call it, do the basketball analogy and take a last shot at the midterms. they're not going to give obama anything. there is not going to be any more revenue. this is the way it's going to be. they're going to keep passing their radical stuff and then run to the media and say hey, we passed it in the house. how come they're not passing it in the senate? >> i think that's true. in fact, he has been very honest. when boehner tells you what he is going 20 do, i think you should take his word on it. he doesn't plan on cooperating with the president, and i think that's been well established. >> at all. congressman keith ellison, thanks. sam stein for "the huffington post" and heather mcghee at demos. great to have both of you on. heather, you first. is this any chance for the budget to get fixed, for anything of any kind of significance whatsoever to move forward in this political climate? >> you know, i still think that there are tail winds behind the issues of gun control and immigration. i mean, we've had, you know, a number of new cycles of just talking about spreadsheets and budgets and job killing cuts. but the fact is the spirits of the young people of newtown are still haunting mothers and fathers. >> but as far as medicare is concerned, ryan is low throwing a joke, is he not? >> he is doubling down in order to kowtow to basically a philosophy, an anti-government philosophy from a novel he read in high school and from the right wing of his party for an extremely unpopular idea. it's not just unpopular with people over 55, but people nearing retirement don't want their children to not have it. >> sam, does he destroy his credibility if he proposes changes he said wouldn't happen? >> yes, but i don't think that's why he is going to propose them. i'm getting word that he is backing off this idea of changing medicare for 56 and below. it's going to go back to 55. i think he probably heard some concerns from members of his own caucus. >> but what about those changes for those over 55 or 56? >> what do you mean by that? as in changing the beneficiary program? >> changing the beneficiary end of it. >> yes. >> the general philosophy stays the same, right? it's to change medicare from an guaranteed health care benefit to something more resembles a voucher system. that has proven unpopular when it's presented to the public in public polls. they have kouchd it as a way to save the program by cutting benefits when there are obviously other avenues toward saving the program. the motive is to get rid of the size and scope of government in government health care. it's a philosophical battle that paul ryan has endamaged by in. it's something that he has gotten more credence with as he introduced his budgets. keep in mind, the first budget he introduced in 2009, 38 house republicans voted against it. now it's very likely that very few house republicans will vote against this budget. he has gotten more power within the party over time. >> democrats say this is all leading to republicans replacing the social safety net and privatizing absolutely everything. here it is. >> change medicare from a guaranteed program into a voucher, and not just for those 65 and older, but now we're being told they would do this for folks well below the age of 56. >> heather, you got give them credit. they are focused, aren't they? >> they are. and if we even take a step back and look at what else is in this budget proposal, the whole point is to try to get to a balanced budget in the next ten years, which would mean something the size of the sequester in terms of cut four times over for the next ten years. which is just absolutely the opposite of what our economy needs to get back on track. we're talking about guaranteed job losses. >> it's sort of remarkable that last year's budget put that objective at 2040. and this year they want to balance the budget by 2023. we're talking incredible cuts likely to many of the critical domestic programs that we have here, discretionary spending is already at bare bones. it's probably going to be cut even more. we'll see if they do any social security changes. but, you know, it's very hard to make the budget balance in ten years without massive austerity measures. i don't think those are going to go over popularly. >> if you close the loopholes and get some more revenue out of the wealthiest americans, kit happen. but i don't think it's going to happen. >> i want to see what he does with the tax hikes that were part of the fiscal cliff deal, if he keeps those or not. >> sam stein, heather mcghee, great to have you on the "ed show." share your thoughts with us on twitter @edshow and on facebook. we always want to know what you think. controversial venezuelan leader hugo chavez has died at the age of 58 after a long battle with cancer. mother on that. stay with us. i love making money. i try to be smart with my investments. i also try to keep my costs down. what's your plan? 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