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Ive learned that mika cannot do a cramp roll. And i learned my phones ringing too. Thats okay. Did you just call it a cramp roll . John heilemann, what did you learn . I just learned what a cramp roll is and ive also learned its been mikas lifetime dream to be a tap dancer. Im terrible. I tried all my life. Its a long story. Donald trump, dont insult all right, number one at warden. Dont say hes not an intellect. I said dont start trying to dance today. What did you learn . I told John Heilemann all of. Joe, what did you learn today . I learned that in this season of hope and spring, that little children are getting off of school buses only to have their hopes dashed and their hearts broken because the white house has closed their doors and said youre not welcome inside americas monument of freedom anymore. Look, closed for business. If its way too early, mika, what time is it . Its time for morning joe. But now, meacham, what time is it . Time for chuck todd and the daily rundown. That was fantastic. To call me, maybe. President obama reaches out to some Senate Republicans in his latest push to find some compromise, but this time trying to do it without dealing with the gop leadership. Also this morning, with hugo chavez supporters in mourning, a look at where things go now in venezuela. Well go live to caracas. And as the race for l. A. Mayor goes on a chance at women running the countrys two biggest cities, and why the last thing that new yorks top contender wants is a runoff. Good morning from a snowbound chicago, its wednesday, march 6th, and this is the daily rundown. Now heres chuck todd. Thats pretty good, a little late night snowmanthere. From changing shipman. Thank you. Congress is rushing things this morning. They want to finish business and get out of town as a winter storm drops perhaps as much as a foot of snow here in the nations capital. And the house is tracking some budget votes. In at 10 this morning to debate and vote on funding the government through the fall. Theyve canceled a bunch of votes for the rest of the week. There isnt a member of congress, republican or democrat, who thinks the president does a good job reaching out a members of congress. But this morning, the white house is signaling that maybe theyre ready to begin a new period of engagement. The president hinted at this strategy at his News Conference on friday. There is a caucus of common sense up on capitol hill. Its just, its a silent group right now, and we want to make sure that their voices start getting heard. In the coming days and coming weeks im going to keep on reaching out to them. Well, the New York Times this morning reports that the president has called about a half dozen senators since the weekend, call them legislating republicans, who are forgoed big deals to tax cuts. Including manes collins are in the story and the president has invited about a dozen senators out to dinner tonight, that is assuming the dinner happens because of snow. Dinners not going to be at the white house. And the times reports that next week the president will make rare trips to capitol hill to meet separately with the democratic and republican caucuses. Yesterday graham responded to this new outreach. Im very encouraged by what i see from the president in terms of substance and tone. Hes calling people. What i see from the president is probably the most encouraging engagement on a big issue ive seen since the early years of his presidency. He told the times i think there is an opportunity between now and the summer. Collins told roll call, even though it may be belated it seems the president is extending an olive branch. The president is running into a Republican Leadership that just cant work with him and keep their jobs at the same time. If hes going to find these coalitions hes got a better shot of going around leadership. Its what president s have done n for years. You had those red state democrats who voted for george w. Bushs tax cuts. He didnt go through tom daschle. He went around him. Most effective way of finding bipartisan compromise is to build it outside the leadership structure. Yesterday Mitch Mcconnell who was watching his own right flank seemed almost relieved that the white house is cutting him out. I expect the president did talk to various members. I wish hed done more of that over the years. Weve had, all of us, very limited interaction with the president and he certainly doesnt have to go through me to call my members. The white house isnt saying yet just who the president s taking to the dinner tonight or if the dinner is still on given the snow, but one natural place to start is lets look at the list of 18 republican senators who voted to end the debate on chuck hagels nomination. Its probably the best place to start when the white house is looking for folks open to a chat. You see the names, some very obvious. Mccain. Some are a little bit surprising, perhaps. Jeff sessions or rick shelby. But still, these are the place to start when youre wondering, were pretty confident 12 of the people that will show up were all on the list of 18. Meanwhile, the political fallout continues. White house visitors who call the white house phone line are going greeted by this message. Due to staffing reductions, rewe get to inform you white house tours will be canceled. Now, the white house says its canceling the tours because the secret Service Officers normally assigned to the tours will be reassigned to other posts to reduce other costs and potential furloughs by the agency. Secret service in total has to cut 84 million. The white house admits this was a decision made with the secret service. John boehner last night sent out this letter, while im disappointed the white house has cut public tours, im please to public tours of the State Capitol will continue, attempting to dig a knife, saying the possibility of sequestration has been underway for some time. Lets be honest. Isnt this a nowin situation for the Obama Administration if you lay off furlough employees but you keep the tours . You probably get criticized, and by the way, doesnt this cut into the republican message, if you dont start cutting somewhere, then you never end up getting spending cuts. This is how spending cuts dont happen in this town, is when you pick on one and ridicule it to death and say oh, its not that big of a deal. Moving on, when you leave open the door to a president ial bid and are no longer just an elder statesman for the party, everything starts to become magnified. Thats what has happened to jeb bush over the past 24 hours. Some might call the metam he wrote a book. To create a consensus for conservatives to actually get in the game, because in november, prior to the election, we werent even in the game. So you think its possible that a path to citizenship may be included in the eventual bill and are you going to be okay with that . I think we need reform and if there is a path of citizenship that is enough of a relation pay real fines. Real fines and a longer period of time. So hes not disputing that hes on both sides of this issue but that isnt stopping him from getting gotcha type of reaction from the Political Class. That was a lot of grumbling from republicans not working for jeb bush thinking about 2016 who seem to be more than okay watching him struggle with this issue and even harry reid decided he should weigh in. Lets wait for a few minutes and see how jeb bush changes his mind, again. His opinion on immigration is not evolving, its devolving. I think hes made a fool of himself the last 24 hours. Bush has been elected to nothing lately. Rubio is the leader on immigration. Rubio said, i think were still in the same place in terms of not wanting there to be a special advantage for people who have broken the law. What hes outlined is something ive thought about for a long time and ultimately concluded it isnt good for the country to have millions of people who are permanently barred from applying for citizenship. Its been a disaster for europe. Rubio said whatever is forged will have the white houses imprint. Is this a friendly rivalry . Heres something to remember about jeb bush, he hasnt run a race since 2002, and the backlash hes received in the last 24 hours could either convince him he doesnt have the stomach for a run because this is the way the world we live in, apparently, or it could steel him for what to expect over the next 2 1 2 years. Either way hes getting a taste of what it is like on the campaign trail. Venezuelas socialist strongman was a thorn in americas side, a leader who rode a wave of anticapitalist sentiment. He leaves a political vacuum and a lot of questions about what happens next. He led to prominence when he led hundreds of soldiers in a failed coup in 1992. Once released from prison, he made the switch to politician, so he was first elected in december 1998. Chavez became the youngest president in venezuelas history. He blamed capitalism for hurting latin america. He criticized the wars in iraq and blasted president bush during a speech at the u. N. In 2006. Yesterday the devil came here, right here, right here, and it smells of sulfur still today. Chavez built a particularly close relationship with the castro brothers in cuba and the government of iran. Besides all that, the u. S. Has kept strong ties with venezuela, one of the top suppliers of oil. A pr effort to sent venezuela to cat strap americans. If he gives us a half a billion dollars worth of help, dont you think maybe we should say thanks . Chavez had just a single awkward meeting with president obama back in 2009. He gave president obama a book on how america exploited latin america. Quote, at this challenging time of president hugo chavezs passing, the United States reaffirmed its support for the venezuelan people. Our correspondent is live for us in the venezuelan capital. Mark, whats the mood of the people there . Was he really popular . Had he been turning into a dictator . Was he already a dictator . The chavez legacy is already a complicated one in venezuela, i take it. Its like youre at the white house. You ask several questions there at once, chuck. I know. I have answers to all of them. No problem. A somber feeling here this morning. People are pretty quiet. Theyve been asked to be quiet. The opposition, the Vice President of the country, even the Big Oil Company here asking people to be unified right now, to be quiet. Everybody agreeing this is just not a time for controversy, for confrontation, and so theres a quiet mood here. Even though he had been sick for a long time and the reports about his health were getting worse and worse, people were still shocked, a lot of people were still shocked when he died. And so last night people were net street, crying, talking about how chavez lives. It will get noisier this afternoon. The body will lie in state until the funeral on friday and there will be lots of people along the parade route, so things are going to pick up here during the day. Was he loved . Yes. In certain parts of the country, especially among the poor. This is a country split right down the middle, as the last election showed, he won by 54 in october. A lot of people hated him, thinking he overspent the oil money. A lot of people loved him because he spent money on the poor, giving them things they never had before in the previous administration. He addressed the People Living in shanties. So its a mixed bag of how hes viewed here. Its going to be interesting to see what happens 30 days from now or so whenever they have the election to see how that goes. His handpicked candidate, nicholas maduro, the Vice President , is likely to be facing the man who lost to chavez last time and thats going to be an interesting election watched closely by the United States. All right, mark potter in caracas for us and nbc news all day long, well check back in as things develop. Still to come im going to speak with Bill Richardson and what chavez death means here at home. Plus were keeping our eye on the markets as the dow begins today at an alltime high. What she thinks about the president reaching out to republicans. Is a compromise in the works . And if its wednesday, weve got some election results. Round one is over in the l. A. Mayors rice. Well see if anybody showed up to vote in l. A. But first a look ahead at todays politics planner. We just learned Senate Republicans will host president obama at their lunch meeting next thursday. A bunch of stuffs getting canceled this afternoon as everybody runs for the hill here in washington. Weve got a wet snow starting to stack up. Youre watching the daily rundown only on msnbc. Want younger looking eyes that say wow . With olay, heres how. New regenerist eye and lash duo. The cream smooths the look of lids. Softens the look of lines. The serum instantly thickens the look of lashes. See wow eyes in just one week with olay. See wow eyes in just one week do we hano. A mower . A trimmer . No. We got nothing. We just got our first house, were on a budget. Were not ready for spring. Well lets get you ready. Very nice. You see these various colors. We got workshops every saturday. Maybe a little bit over here. 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The bottom line is we have an opportunity, if we continue to talk, to make sure that we can replace the sequester, which both sides are saying that they think should happen, with a balanced approach to deficit reduction so we can actually have some revenue through closing tax loopholes that we used to pay down the deficit. One of the arguments ive made is you cant ever work through leadership sometimes because people are elected to leadership to either keep power or take power. Isnt that fair, that thats why somebody runs for leadership position, thats why they get elected, so you have to work around it. I hear anecdotes all the time around capitol hill in the last three months of more and more bipartisan efforts. I know that you and dan webster, a republican freshman congressman are hosting joint dinners. Yes. This didnt happen six months ago or a year ago. Dan and i started them about a year ago when we both agreed, we worked together in the Florida House when he was speaker and i was in the statehouse, and we got to Work Together in the state senate as well, despite he and i being polar opposites. But we thought it was important to bring members to get to know each other better. And the deal was hed bring five republicans, id bring five democrats. And subsequent dinners, each guest was responsible for bringing a date. How often do you do these dinners . Every couple of months. Do you see the point where legislation actually comes out of it or not yet . Were finally evolving because people have continued to come and word has spread. Were starting talk about issues. It was all personal at first. It was personal at first but were sticking our tow in and weve had some solid members come who are committed in their hearts. Weve had progressives and Tea Party Members come to these dinners where we can sort of not have Anyone Around and really be open and honest about what we think should happen. So us pundit class people who say in the good ole days everybody used to be friends and theyre not doing that anymore, theres some truth. That was the premise because we really felt youre a lot more likely to work with someone that you like and know. And getting to hear the stories about these members families and weve told stories about our races and how we got here and when you know someone personally and realize theyre not the ogre, its easier to Work Together. I want to ask you, the dow hits its alltime record and yet there isnt that feeling its a different feeling than ever before. What do you tell a constituent that sees this on one hand and certainly doesnt feel the stock market should be breaking records . What i tell them at home is we need to be working hard. Even as the chair of the dncs, i know, it cant be my way or the highway. Ive got to go home and defend my vote for responsible targeted spending cuts that are going to be painful like i did in summer of 2011. Can you go home and defend chain cpi, by the way . I can go home and defend entitlement reform as long as which is absolutely essential, as long as were not first doing that before we protect the middle class. So weve got to make sure that were not slashing and taking a meat ax. You can defend this in south florida. I can defend entitlement. Well, we absolutely have to add solvency to medicare, medicaid and social security. Weve shown through the president s plan that you can add hundreds of billions of dollars more insolvency to medicare. There are ways to add it to medicaid but the first thing cannot be to cut benefits to seniors. Thank you very much. Well keep track of these house dinners. Of course cameras will scare everybody away. No. President obamas pick to cia gets one step closer to langley. Plus, what will chavezs death mean for u. S. Relations with venezuela and the rest of latin america. Well have a former governor and former ambassador to the United Nations Bill Richardson. Todays trivia, since 1900, how many sitting president s have visited venezuela. The answer is coming up on the daily rundown. Carfirmation. Only hertz gives you a carfirmation. Hey, this is challenger. Ill be waiting for you in stall 5. It confirms your reservation and the location your car is in, the moment you land. Its just another way youll be traveling at the speed of hertz. Thto fight chronic. Osteoarthritis pain. To fight chronic low back pain. To take action. To take the next step. Today, you will know you did something for your pain. Cymbalta can help. Cymbalta is a pain reliever fdaapproved to manage chronic musculoskeletal pain. One nonnarcotic pill a day, every day, can help reduce this pain. 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Talk to your doctor. Cymbalta can help. It fills you with energy. And it gives you what you are looking for to live a more natural life. In a convenient two bar pack. This is nature valley. Nature at its most delicious. On our radar this morning, john brennan, one step closer to becoming cia director, voted 123 on the committee. The three no votes were republican senators. The white house agreed to provide more information on the legally killing of americans abroad. The white house two of the 11 legal opinions that outline the use of drones to kill al qaeda suspects overseas. A full senate vote to confirm brennan could come as early as thursday weather permitting. Meanwhile, attorney general eric holder addressed concerns from rand paul about whether or not a drone strike could be ordered against an american on u. S. Soil. Paul said he would do what he could to hold up brennans nomination until he got a full answer to his question. In a letter to paul, holder said, quote, it is possible, i suppose, to imagine an extraordinary circumstance in which it would be necessary and appropriate under the constitution and applicable laws of the United States for the president to authorize the military to use lethal force within the territory of the United States. That should get the bloggers going. Holder says it has never occurred before and that it would only be done in extreme circumstances. Well, president obama is hoping for a new chapter in the u. S. Venezuelan relationship but to do that hell need a willing partner on the other side. Joining me by phone is governor richardson. Good to have you with us. Thank you. Explain to me, what was always odd about the relationship with hugo chavez is the american rhetoric that came from american politicians rivalled that of castro in cuba, or kim jongun in north korea. But the big difference is we have economic relations with venezuela. Explain that sort of, i guess that sort of odd dynamic. Well, the dynamic, chuck, is that chavez was basically pragmatic in his relationship with the u. S. Venezuelas our fourth largest oil supplier, theyre members of opec, venezuela is like their Political Oil is like their political weapon, but whenever it was with the u. S. , they never used it. And chavez, its all the citgo stations in the u. S. Chavez never used it. However, the last 14 years the relationship has been very frigid, and i think it is an opportunity for us to step in in a new relationship with venezuela. Its an important oilproducing country. Theres going to be an election there. The opposition candidate is prou. S. Maduro, the Vice President is not prou. S. , but i think is going to be more pragmatic with chavez. But in the region, i think we have an opportunity to make inroads in the region because several countries had started to follow chavez against the u. S. In the region. Right. Thats what my you understanding was very frustrated about, and antiamerican sentiment in latin america has been strong for decades. But let me ask you this, you met hugo chavez, you sat down with him. Was this a dictator, was this a strong man . Was he everything that he was described quite often by american politicians, or did you feel like it was an elected democratic leader who just came from the socialist wing of the political pendulum . No, chavez liked his power. He did everything he could for 14 years to keep his power, including alter the constitution. He went after the press, the judicial branch. He liked his power and he saw himself as what is called a kadillo, a dictator, a castro in the region. And for that reason, he did build support in countries like nicaragua, argentina, ecuador, strong relationship with cuba, and he was able to use his oil to sway a lot of latin american countries to vote against us at the u. N. , to take positions against us. That could change, so that presents a real opportunity, and i think that we need to, for instance, put ambassadors, Exchange Ambassadors again, start a dialogue, and make sure that the election, which will probably be within 30 days is free and fair, and the chavez party does not take advantage and not have a free and fair election. How would you rate the Obama Administrations outreach to venezuela so far . Well, i think they need to pay more attention. Its good. The president has some sound policies. I think that we need to be engaged more. You know, latin america, chuck, is always forgotten. Its always the middle east and north korea and europe, and thats understandable, but i think this is our own backyard. Weve got the immigration issue thats very important. Weve got a new president in mexico, weve got a huge power in brazil. Venezuelas a big power. We should take advantage of this situation and try to reach out to those countries that have been hostile and see if we can get back in with a good economic and political dialogue. All right, Bill Richardson, former governor, new mexico, always good to talk with you and get your perspective. Thank you, chuck. The markets show no sign of closing down. After a record high closing tuesday, the market is adding to its gains today. Everybody has woken up and said the market is the only place to make money. Up next, as the race for l. A. Mayor heads to round two, could the two biggest cities be led by women . Deep dive is next from a snowy washington, d. C. Youre watching the daily rundown only on msnbc. Max and penny kept our bookstore exciting and would always come to my rescue. But as time passed, i started to notice max just wasnt himself. And i knew hed feel better if he lost a little weight. So i switched to purina cat chow healthy weight formula. I just fed the recommended amount. 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This is not the only major woman candidate in a major city here. New york, the front runner for now is Christine Quinn. Shes leading flow democrats. Shes just shy of the 40 she needs to avoid a runoff by the way. Shes cresting atop republicans by 44 points. Never before had any women held a top post in a city like new york or l. A. Let alone both. And let me just show you here. It is amazing at how few women hold the spot for mayor. Heres the top ten American Cities here. Just one woman holds the mayorship. Its anise parker in houston, texas. Most are men. Whats interesting about mayor parker, she won, she was openly gay, first lesbian to head a major american second. There was a Houston Chronicle poll that found a significant majority of people said it was a nonfactor. And a recent quinnipiac poll in new york, three quarters said they were comfortable with quinns sexuality. Let me show you the dearth here. The first woman ever elected mayor of a major city was in seattle, was in 1926, and its the last time anybody, any woman has been elected mayor of seattle. As you can see here, philadelphia, no women mayors. Look at the top this is of the top 50 largest cities in the country, just seven are led by women, houston, baltimore, forth worth, fresno and oakland. Gruel got what she wanted last night, a runoff that gives you ever her distance between her and garcetti. She now gets another two months. In the new york city race, Christine Quinn is leading her competitor of more than 20 points. She needs to coast in the general election where she currently holds a huge edge. A lot of people in new york tell me she would be an underdog. Joining me now, sharon prep. Nice to be here. When you won, you ran, it s was it seemed our gender was an asset. Is that fair to say . People were like, we need to break the old boys club, lets elect a woman mayor. I think it helped. Its been suggested that women talk about cleaning house or reform, i guess they associate women with cleaning house, women have a better shot at it, people attach more credibility to women. Being in office, you had to deal with a lot of the Old Boy Network that was still in office at city council governing. How hard was that, and did you feel that you were treated differently because you were a woman mayor . I think being a reformed candidate automatically puts you at some disadvantage because youre going against the grain. But as a woman, yes, i think it was a huge factor. Its not something i thought about at the time. You couldnt afford to think about it at the time. But i think peoples notions of power, those notions are attached to masculine images, so then when youre trying to rearrange the expression of power and how you do business, i think it makes it much tougher when it comes from a woman. When youre wooing business, youre dealing with ceos and all of them are men. Is this, do you think explains why we have this, here we thought you were breaking a Glass Ceiling at the time, that there would be more women mayors. I thought after you were elected, then it would be no longer a curiosity, and here we are, 2013, and the gee whiz story, at least in politics is that l. A. And new york might finally elect a woman mayor. I think the business interest is as difficult as some of the daytoday political interest. I think the expectation was when they walked in the door thatd see a guy, and theyd see this woman in a skirt. I think it was very difficult for members of the hill often to extend the same level of regard, although there was a lot of support. I dont mean to suggest that there wasnt a lot of support. I just think the exercise of power, particularly political power, still has masculine overtones to it, masculine characterization to it, in a way that i think people may be a little bit more pragmatic in the business world. Given how high profile the mayors of l. A. And new york are, they end up showing up in entertainment shows sometimes, how significant will it be in seeing Glass Ceilings broken in a lot of places if women lead one or both of those cities. I think it would be terrific. Im not saying which of those candidates i would be voting i understand. But i think its terrific. I think it helps for people to begin to embrace the notion of this person in power is a woman, in the same way i think of america having the president. I think it forms peoples expectations, their notions of power if you have this notion of a woman there. Have you ever had this conversation going to womens groups, is it hard to convince women to run for mayor . Is that the reason there havent been more women candidates . Its tougher for women to raise the money. Those are expensive markets. Philadelphia, yeah. You think of the women who have done well in flicks, they are really superb fundraisers, i. E. Nancy pelosi, but its always been a fundraiser. Hillary has always been tough. Feinstein has been an effective fundraiser. Women have always struggled to raise that kind of money. Former washington, d. C. , mayor sharon pratt, nice to see you. Developing now this is attorney general eric holder, hes going to be testifying before the Senate Judiciary committee, asked that question about u. S. Drone strikes on u. S. Soil. The gaggle will be here next, but first, white house soup of the day, although we think it will closed, i could use some of this today, chicken noodle. [ male announcer ] ive seen incredible things. Otherworldly things. But there are some things ive never seen before. This ge jet engine can understand 5,000 data samples per second. Which is good for business. Because planes use less fuel, spend less time on the ground and more time in the air. Suddenly, faraway places dont seem so. Far away. 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Were you surprised he came out in the book one away and now is say im okay with the path to citizenship . I think i was very surprised. Hes always been for the path for citizenship. Why do you think he wrote a book that sell otherwise . I want i think until yesterday i didnt think he was going to run. Now i think hes seriously considering it. Now i think he thought perhaps by saying hes not for a path to citizenship it could broaden his appeal, but i dont think its necessary. You can run supporting a path to citizenship and get the support of your base. The firestorm is too strong of a word, but this is his first take of what this is like an it became an immediate fodder for twitter, and harry reid had a little zinger, and things like that. In the current life cycle, a book is written in the paleolithic age, but i think what this does reflect is while there might be a growing done senses in the Political Class for republicans, there is a lot of dissent among activists, and ive heard activist groups so thats still a major concern. I want to go, tom, to the president having dinner with republicans. There are a lot of people in congress that are saying, what took so long . He did a lot of outreach to people like you when when he needed a joke. He actually did a lot of outreach at the very beginning. I think the issue now is less but that the politics have changed. The reality is simply being against obama and everything he doesnt isnt enough to make the case for the constituents i think everyone is looking back for nod getting things done. And the reality is nobody in leadership is working with him on leadership. Zirts 3r50e78 outside the leadership. I would argue that hes not working on immigration. Despite the peaches hiss given, his staff is not going to the hill and working on it. I think theyre working together in the house and senate. But the white house has been totally absent of this discussion. Have they been absent or people asked them to stay out of it . Sometimes you get republicans who tell the president stay out of this one, but by the way youre not getting involved enough in this issue. I do think this is so interesting that it comes at a time when allies are ramping up campaign infrastructure, so the question is, how dot play the inside and outside game at the same time. I think it takes finesse. We saw the hint of is the talk of entitlement, and i think its a boxy does he have some room on the left to do some entitlement . I think he does. Ive always been a supporter of the notion of a grand bargain, but it feels a bit like lucy and the football, and the uncertainty every couple months is bad. It used been the threat would be the only thing to get congress to act. I not working. Lets have a conversation. I have to cut this short. Shameless plugs. On saturday it was the 96th anniversary of the granting of u. S. Citizenship to the people of puerto rico. Time to give full rights. Does that meet statehood . Or independence, let them decide. Great piece by tina ussman about charm school to science geeks, offering social etiquette for their students. Nice. Being back from afghanistan a couple weeks ago. There are a lot of folks there in the military and civilian sector accomplishing some major things. There really is a lot positive going a. Thats it for this edition of the daily rundown. Coming up next, chris jansing. Byebye. Heres your brings travel forecast. All eyes on the big midatlantic snowstorm today, the heavy, wet snow. Power outages are likely. And possibly up into southern pennsylvania, just a rainy mess. That possibility will change to snow a little later tonight. The big ocean storm cravens up on thursday. 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