Saying in a new interview about his reelection campaign, concerns about his age, and where this Debt Ceiling Standoff goes next. Plus, you have to see this one to believe it, former president Donald Trumps Video Deposition in the Defamation Lawsuit against him. He defends he is Access Hollywood comments on even insults the attorney asking the questions. The impact the testimony could have on the jury as the civil trial comes to an end. We have a lot to talk about, so lets get started. We are going to dig into President Bidens new interview with Msnbc Stephanie Ruhle in just a few moments. But first, is the Supreme Court compromised . More stunning reports about conservative Justice Clarence thomas have Many Americans and democrats calling for greater oversight on the judicial body. We cited think statements that billionaire gop, harlan crow, paid for thomass nephew to attend boarding school. That same day, the Washington Post detailed correspondents in 2012, between former Vice President of the federal society, leonard leo, and then kellyanne conway. That kellyanne conway. Citing documents at msnbc has not independently confirmed, the post says that they instructed conway to pay 25,000. To affirm belonging to Justice Thomass wife, conservative activist, ginni thomas. The thomass have yet to respond to our request for comment. We are told the post that the concern was for the promises privacy. Take a listen. In this case ginni thomas was one of our contractors she worked in the reagan administration. This is working in Public Policy for years and the Pulling Company we did Public Opinion research and Data Analytics before we had no business with the court. These reports broke just days after the Senate Judiciary Committee Held a hearing on tuesday focusing on Supreme Court ethics responds. They have disclosed their gifts, including larrys vacations and private plane rides. Which both thomas and crow said that they would not think require disclosure since crowded not have business before the court. Here is Judiciary Committee chairman, dick durbin. Course of several decades, congress and the Judicial Branch has created a system of ethics, laws, and standards for federal judges. That lay out the clear rules of the road. We are here today because the Supreme Court of the United States does not consider itself found by these rules. Supreme Court Justices are the only judges not bound by the Code Of Conduct. And they impact the lives of hundreds of millions of people. At what point does reverence for the courts economy those of into normalizing contacts of interest and improper outside influence. Here to discuss is democratic senator and Judiciary Committee member, sheldon right house of rhode island. It is so good to see you. Good to be with you. Absolutely. Youve been very vocal about the need for the Ethics Reform on the Supreme Court, including potential legislation from congress. What specifically are you interested in seeing getting done to fix what is clearly a problem on the court . It is actually astonishingly simple. The supreme should abide by the exact same code of judicial ethics that all other federal judges do. And should have a process for making sure that it is. At the moment, there is no process of any kind to make sure that they are abiding by the Code Of Ethics. They get to call their own fouls, they get to define the Code Of Ethics and in eccentric ways, and nobody calls them on it. All they have to do is aligned themselves with what the rest of the federal judiciary is already doing and least the ethics Filings Program goes away. It is interesting because you can say there isnt a problem because during the hearings, some of the republicans raised concerns over the conduct of the courts liberal justices. So does this indicate what aboutism or is it really a space for bipartisan reform . It is a huge problem, and anybody in Corporate America who operates under a Code Of Ethics, anybody in local, Municipal County State Government who operates under the Code Of Ethics, and every other federal judge knows the behavior that has been disclosed about the court is completely unacceptable. So there is going to be enormous pressure on the court to fix it and there is an easy path for them to fix it by simply modeling on what the rest of their fellow federal judges already do. So and if they wanted to do something legislatively, you know, it is that simple. And so on that point, the Committee Chair recently said that he wanted to press crow for answers about those gifts to Justice Thomas. How could that impact the work of the Judiciary Committee . The immediate issue here is whether or not Justice Thomas has been complying with the Code Of Ethics for judges. But if you look beyond his compliance, there is a whole apparatus of machinery, if you will, out there that is helping in facilitating these things. So when crow is giving these huge gifts, is he abiding by the law that requires you to report gifts of over 17,000 . When leonard leo is funneling money through to mrs. Thomas, is he complying with the laws that cover the corporations . Is it clear that there is actually work performed for that funding . So there is a great deal of investigations that still need to take place on the outer fringes of the immediate problem of why as Justice Thomas not disclosing these gifts and hospitality. What an interesting argument that we have been hearing is that youve accused groups of lobbying Supreme Court justices and even paying to get cases to the court. Do the reforms you are talking about address that type of influence . That will take a little bit more work. The traditional role of the recusal statute has been to separate people where their friend, or person they are working with actually has a case before the court. What we have seen in the last couple of decades has been a very, very robust billionaire funded effort to control and influence the court. And i think if somebody with a case before the court ought to be the subject of this kind of role than somebody whos actually out to directly influence the court as an institution is an even more important person to get proper disclosure about. Shes been absent from the Judiciary Committee for two months now. The senator said that there has been no slowdown in judicial nominees. Do you agree with that . Well, let me say this. The rule that the republicans have been applying to block Chuck Schumer putting a temporary replacement for her on the Judiciary Committee would also apply if she resigned from the committee completely, not just temporarily. And it would also apply if she resigned from the senate entirely. So if this really comes down to it, are the republicans in the senate going to block our ability to have a majority on the Senate Judiciary committee. And the only way around that without triggering that rule is to have senator return. Which i hope she does soon and healthy. I think to your point, senator, the committee was not able to advance a number of traditional nominees at your last markup on thursday. Was that due to attendance issues or could his presence have changed thin . I think that her attendance could have changed it. And as our statement said, there were others who will move forward in the future when she does return. But do remember that the fundamental problem here is obstruction by the republican senators who will not allow a replacement for her temporarily. It is not clear that they would allow a replacement for her permanently on the committee. Or even allow someone new on to the committee where she has the senate. That problem of republican obstruction persists across all of these different scenarios, except if the senator returns to the work scenario. Before i let you go i want to with President Joe Biden where he talks about the Debt Ceiling Standoff. Msnbc Stephanie Ruhle asked him whether he would use the 14th Amendment to declare the debt limit unconstitutional . Take a listen. There are members of congress that might be okay with us defaulting. They think that it could hurt your politically given that, are you prepared to vote the 14th Amendment and blew through the debt ceiling . Im not there yet. And here is the deal. I think that this is not your fathers republican party. This is a different group. I am prepared to negotiate and detail with the budget. How much should we spend, how much can we cut . So, we do support the president s effort to end the standoff by ending the 14th Amendment . I think whatever it takes to avoid the immense harm by default we had testimony in the Budget Committee just this week that the two options for the republicans proposed, one is the fault, the other is their terrible default bill. Both of them would cost hundreds of thousands, 700,000 versus 1 million american jobs. Both of them would cause a recession in one case, just recession and in the other case severe and immediate recession. That is not a choice at the American Public should have to face. I will support joe biden in facing down the attempts to shove those unnecessary choices down americas throats. Well, the states have gotten a little bit high on those absences there because 43 senators, republican senators including all of this leadership just signed on to a letter saying that they will not support debt ceiling increase without scent spending cuts. What does this look like Going Forward between the white house and Senate Democrats in particular . There is talk of the extension, they are meeting with congressional leaders next week. But what is the strategy here if republicans are saying, we are just not moving off of anything that does not involve spending, and the democrats still want a clean debt bill . Then it becomes a question of who blinks first and the price of default is extraordinary on American Families and american business, and the economy. And i think when you look at the two completely irresponsible choices that the republicans have represented it is not going to be long until their business and industry friends start calling up and saying you have had your fun, knock it off. Lets get back to work. The president s offered to negotiate, and if you disarm the hand grenade, do it, lets get on with this. Rhode island senator, you have been generous with your time. Thank you very much. Joining me now is gabe roth he is the Executive Director of fix the court, a group that advocates for Supreme Court reform on many fronts including establishing a Code Of Ethics, imagine that. Welcome. Still glad to have you here, and so timely. First off for you, why is the Supreme Court exempt from ethical accountability in the first place . I think a lot of people kind of scratch their head because every other federal judge in the system is liable to the rules. There is no good reason for them to be exempt. Theres certain idiosyncrasies of history in terms of when the lower courts Code Of Conduct was written down that it exempted the Supreme Court at the time because the Supreme Court had their own other and related issues that they were dealing with both internally and with congress. It is really just an accident of history that they are exempt of any code. And they could adopt the code tomorrow, and i think they should be fit up and include some serious accountability and complaint measures. There is no good reason that this exemption exists. It is interesting because when you step back, just looking at the ethics part of it, the responsibility to exempt yourself, the organization has noted 18 times a justice has not recused him or herself despite an alleged conflict of interest. It seems like it is a systemic problem. What constitutional remedies are there to fix that . Well if a constitutional the only tools we really have our there are two, sorry, impeachment and removal. Which is probably never going to happen for any of the current, or any justice into history. Because it is so hard to get 67 senators to agree on anything let alone removing a justice in the Supreme Court. However, under the constitution, under the article one power of congress, they have this necessary and proper clause that has broad implications for how they manage the other branches. To just give one example under that clause, that is how the Supreme Court is constituted. It doesnt say how many justices are in the Supreme Court. It doesnt say how much money they get each ear or where they said or even a lot of parameters on what kinds of cases they hear. So i think that constitutionally, under article, one congressional power the court sorry, the congress could reduce, for example, part of the justices known Security Budget until they came to the table and actually adopted unenforceable ethics code. Some of the rules, i should mention this, you just had the white house, behind them they said that Arizona State university, before the senator got flown out to arizona, he had the Mccain Institute had to file a Report Saying that they were flying him out to arizona. The senator how to get approval from the Senate Ethics committee to fly out to arizona. I assume that Arizona State university, that is where it is. None of that existed in judiciary. If you are judge smith and you are flying out to hawaii on anybodys time, federal society, aclu, what have you, there is no process by what you have to get approval internally or externally and you do not have to report about the trip until up to 18 months after the fact where senator whitehouse is going to have to file a report within 30 days of returning from arizona and i think that those are ways in which we could bring the judiciary into compliance with the ethics rules that are followed by lawmakers. Change is coming to the Supreme Court. All right, gabe roth we hope so as well. Gabe roth, we appreciate you, thank you very much. Coming up, it turns out donald trump under oath is a lot like donald trump all the other time. I would not, under any circumstances have any interest in you. 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I would not, under any circumstances have any interest in you. Both parties until 5 pm tomorrow to decide whether he wants to appear in person and his own defense. Here to discuss this and more is former brooklyn prosecutor and msnbc legal analyst, charles cohen. Good to see you, brother. If you are a juror, what would be your key take away from this deposition, and its potential impact . When you are looking at this tape, and watching donald trump throughout this deposition, the amount of disdain in this regard that he shows with respect to not only miss carroll but women in general is striking. It is not inconsistent so it should not surprise any of us who have followed donald trump throughout the year but it is something that donald trump has very little regard for women. He has no concern when it comes to misogyny and i dont think that this tape in any way, shape, or form supports, for bodes well for him in terms of the eyes of the jury and how they will be evaluating it in terms of this case. This is a civil case and not a criminal case. That is important. What does it mean for carols team to convince the jury that donald trump is liable in this case . What it means is that they will have established that donald trump, like many of us already knew theres not a truth teller. Its more so that she was suing him for the defamation of basically calling her a liar when she came forward and talked about being sexually assaulted. So it is not only the sexual isnt but in the strict legal sense, it is establishing that donald trump was lying when he basically said that he did not do it, that he doesnt know miss carroll, and that he, and calling her a liar, the defamation is really what this will establish from a legal perspective. From an overall perspective, it affirms that donald trump is an unabashed, person who has no problem with Sexual Assault. And has committed Sexual Assault against this woman. I think that is the subtext of the verdict meaning here. Although that is not the entirety of what he is on trial for. So throughout the deposition, trump repeatedly said that carole is not his type . Carol is not his type. Then this happens, take a listen. We are trying to do a Black And White photograph that we marked. I dont even know who the woman, lets say i dont know here. The person you just pointed to . Okay. Just so we are clear, we confused e. Jean carroll with his wife at the time. After seeing all of his wifes have been his type, this was the off the cup moment that i think could leave an impression. But it will have a bigger implication for this case . I watch that video clip over and over again and it was almost like an snl blooper skit in terms of him, on one hand, this woman is not on the other hand, mistaking that for the second person that he chose to marry. I mean, what it does is that it strikes serious doubt in the minds of jurors, regarding his credibility. I think that donald trump is in a very unique position as a defendant in that there are so many different avenues to which the public and the jury will have had to absorb for him. No doubt many of the jurors already had an idea about his credibility or lack thereof going into the trial. But a clip like this only serves to further destroy it. So i will turn your attention really quick to the case of jordan nearly, the subway writer who investigators say was on the train, talking about being hungry and not caring if he went to jail. He died after another passenger held him in a chokehold. The Medical Examiner determined on tuesday that nearlys death was a homicide due to compression of the neck. He has not been charged with the crime and his attorney said in a statement that penny relieved he was protecting himself and could not have foreseen his death. Wnbc citing two sources from reports that the Manhattan District Attorney plans to present the case to a grand jury. What would you be looking for, what should they be looking for in this case . I think when you are looking at this from a legal standpoint the question becomes whether the amount of force that was applied to mr. Nearly repeatedly and over the course of time was necessary to subdue any kind of threat that he believed that the defender of the assailant, believed that he pulled him in the moment. I think that is going to be a question of time, duration of the event, and the totality of the circumstances. But i think on a larger level, this highlights so many of the issues in New York City because a lot of ways, new york is considered to be this progressive bastion of liberalism. And in many aspects, they underestimate the around tensions that are in this city. And i think that is an undercurrent in this case that a lot of people will miss. Not just the racial and class issues but the homelessness and Mental Health issues as well. Charles coleman, thank you very much, my friend. Good to see you. Coming up, President Biden answers the age old question, or rather the old question, in an exclusive interview with Stephanie Ruhle. But will the American People like his answer . My Political Panel is getting to weigh in, next. D pnc bank. Helping businesses both large and small, communities and the people who live and work there grow and thrive. Were proud to call these places home too. Theyre where we put down roots, and where together, we work to help move everyones financial goals forward. 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Now, for more on the challenge ahead for President Bidens 2024 bid, lets bring in our Political Panel, the founder of black women news, media, and post of the colbert show. And serious exum. And former gop strategist, rick wilson, is cofounder of the lincoln project. So rick, i am going to start with you because you and i have had this conversation. There is a Running Conversation with us now. What is it . What is it . The democrats dont get. Right, we are a deeply polarized nation for one thing. We are never going to go back to where president s have, fiftysix percent Approval Ratings for the current circumstances. I will say my theory of the case is this, when donald trump secures the nomination in the next five weeks or something, every single republican no matter what they said about it, no matter what the reservations are, we are going to get in line. They will be behind him. Right now, donald trump has can rely on a unified Republican Base but joe biden has a Democratic Base that is sniping, and complaining, and saying i wish i had this, i wish i had. But you dont. Hes going to be the nominee. He is the democratic parties leader. Get behind, him dead in line, get to work, there is an existential threat to the party, the country, the world standing of stage and a lot of these people were saying why cant i have gavin newsom . You cant. Thats it. Get to work. Okay. Wow. I think that we have done it. Church is out. Drop the mic. That same and d. C. News poll found that almost half of the voters i do not want biden to run again cited his aides was a major they address thatninrvw w, lets take a listen to that. There is not a fortune 500 company in the world looking to hire a ceo in his 80s. So why would an 82 year old joe biden, be the right person for the most important job in the world . Because ive required a lot of wisdom. And now more than the bush majority of people who experience than anybody has ever been for the office and i think that ive driven myself to be honorable as well as also, effective. You hear the patch, experience, qualifications, honor, what does this president have to do to persuade voters that his age is an asset, and not a liability . I think that he has not been the most exciting person in terms of making news because he does not have the flare, trauma, and scandal that donald trump does. But this is the reality. Voters are not picking a prom date here. They are going to be picking President Biden or the criminally indicted, twice impeached insurrectionist president , for the guy who hates mickey mouse. So i think one democratic voters in particular see what is at stake here, they see how completely extreme rhonda sentences, how still crazy donald trump, is it is going to be a nobrainer and they will make the right decision. I think that is really what they have to see is that there is a clear cut choice here, and not just gavin newsom writing to run off on a whitehorse for them. That is an interesting point because on the republican side of the aisle, republicans are standing by their man. The former president , despite those mounting controversy. The impeachments, let alone what is happening now. Two thirds of gop primary voters believe that the investigations into trump are politically motivated. And they must support him now to stop his opponents from winning. It appears that trump is getting a boost from all that chaos. So what does this mean, i mean, how does this you said, i think you are right, trump seals this deal and moves on. But what does that mean in a general election for those republicans who still might be on the fence or are they just going to rank up . As you talked about, in the 2024 cycle for a number of reasons. The Dobbs Decision put off a prochoice gop which is much more than people thought. The sixweek Abortion Bans are driving me crazy, they hate it, and of course, the reality of trump with more and more republicans with the republicans, they all thought that they were gonna get rhonda santos, they all thought that they were gonna get so many normal, sweater vest style guys, instead of crazy donald again. It is crazy donald again. So we will see, biden having an opportunity to talk to those people to make an economic argument in particular with those folks. And look, one of the other problems here for the president s democrats do not take a victory lap. They dont go out and talk about their accomplishments. Instead of saying while, we passed and it extremely amazing infrastructure bill, people mona but what they didnt get until they did. And how it helped people in the country. I think that biden is not ready to talk to some of these republicans Going Forward, it is not a huge cohort but it is big enough to do what we did in 2020, and patched together a coalition of democrats and moderate republicans to reelect joe biden. Rick makes probably one of the most incredible points in this conversation. The democrats do not sell what they did. So people begin to believe stuff that may be is not true. You have the economy, and this massive divide for example, between the data and how people actually feel. So at some point, that perception becomes a reality. So how do democrats, to ricks point, pivot and actually have the conversations . That Unemployment Rate is down because you all are going back to work. You are going back to do construction because of infrastructure. Jobs are opening up because inflation is coming down. The cost to you to do business is less. How do they make that . Why havent they so far . I think democrats have to be relentlessly on message. That is something that republicans are doing, regardless of what is happening in the news cycle. It is antidry cleaned, anti transport crt. And they have been hammering that message home for years. Democrats, on the other hand, tend to go with wherever the wind is blowing and respondents of the news of the day. If democrats can never decide to drag the news cycle, or ignore the news cycle if they are not driving it, and the message of their accomplishments, then we could see that that message will start to resonate with the voters. But it is the groundwork that the republicans are doing theyre not going to get their message through. We got the 12 punch with Rishi Colbert and women, rick wilson. We really appreciate you guys, thank you very much. Thank you. Right now, voters and grapevine texas are headed to the polls and a high stakes School Board Elections. The big question . Will they elect a group of christian nationalists back candidates or not . And what is at stake if they do . 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And it represents not just where politics are heading in politics, but also other places around the country as well. There are three open seats here in the School Board Race and it candidates running. But many of them fall across one single line. On one side, we have candidates who are backed by a conservative, christian, sulfone company is packed. They are associated with people who openly embraced Christian Nationalism horse abortive of policies that lawmakers and texas are currently debating that include bringing the Ten Commandments into the classroom, a section, an hour of prayer into schools and also limiting conversations about race, gender, and sexuality in schools as well. And on the other side we have a ragtag group of people, many of them are also conservative, but they are uncomfortable with the religious overtones here. And in some cases, they have teamed up with more liberal candidates and families who are concerned about issues of diversity and inclusion here. I want you to listen to a conversation that i had with one of the candidates. Her name is kimberly phoenix. She identifies as a conservative catholic here. But she is concerned about what these policies my due to the Education System into its teachers. Take a listen. We are already in the situation where we are replacing teachers that have had ten, 15, 20 years of experience with one here teachers. They are hiring people who dont even have teaching certificates. Thats not the kind of educational experience that i came here for for my child. And we are going to lose a lot of really good people. Some really fabulous teachers. But i have told a lot of them that i would rather them go, and teach somewhere then stay and be broken. You can hear just how high some of the emotional stakes are here in this community. This is coming monday, what we hear is that teachers from the district will be deciding whether or not to sign contracts to continue teaching here. 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God of compassion and mercy, not to be served but to serve. Give grace that i may find my service perfect freedom, and in that freedom, knowledge of the truth. Grant that i may be a blessing to all the children of every faith and belief. That is together, we may discover the ways and means, and be lead into the paths of peace. Through jesus christ or lord. Amen. Joining me now to discuss is the professor at the university of roman, throw him, ten and msnbc royal contributor. Suzannah, this was it magnificent day. The first uk coronation in seven the years. Can you speak to us about the historic moment this represented and not only the coronation itself but the fact that charles actually paid a lot allowed. It was historic. It hasnt happened in 70 years but we saw something that had been happening since 973, regalia in the 16 60 is going from a coronation textbook. The first joint coronation in 1154. But you are right, we have this moment at the very beginning when the king was met by a child who greeted him in the name of the king of kings. And he replied, i come not to serve but to be served. And then this prayer, this publicly voiced prayer of personal prayer by the sovereign, which has never happened before, and again the theme of service, and also something very interesting, he said he wanted to be a blessing to his children, or to gods children of every faith and belief. That came out a lot as well. If some of inclusivity. If there was a deeply christian ceremony, it was also something that was to be for all people of different faiths. So i am a straightup i was sitting there with my trumpet this morning and enjoying everything at five a. M. But a lot of people were very critical, and have been critical of the monarchy and controls. Dozens of protesters were arrested before the coronation. Some wearing not making tshirts. But at the same time, today was still a big party. What does that say, susana, about where the british people are on their monarchy . Yeah its. I do think the decision to arrest Peaceful Protesters was a misstep. I think that it gives the wrong message about the fate to which the king has now been confirmed as had or at least his head ship has been confirmed in todays ceremony. But the Republican Movement in the United Kingdom is still a minority. Something like 26 in recent polls have suggested that they would rather have an elected head of state. And that is a minority and it really had the star power of the momentum or the narrative to change that situation, i think. The vast majority of people, if not actively pro, at least in different. So there are a lot of people, i think the latest was 56 , or 58 of people who would like to retain them. So the other thing to say is that the Prince Of Wales and princess of wales, William And Kate are very popular. They have an 80 approval rating. So if we look at the future, and to their children, i think the future of the monarchy looks pretty strong. You are looking at the future but clearly, prince harry didnt seem to play much of a role in it. He sat on the third row of the ceremony and was reportedly not invited to appear on the balcony with the rest of the family. Did this surprise you at all and how did the public receive it . Yes, was he not invited onto the balcony or did he choose not to be there . I think that is the whole question when it comes to prince harry. I think that he and meghan wanted to step back and to have a more junior role in the royal family. But was not granted to them. So he now has a position, as you say, on the third row of the abbey. Im very glad that he was there. I think it was a moment of support for his father. But he doesnt appear to have stayed long enough to have a reconciliation with his brother. So we still have that family feud ongoing. 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