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He wants immunity before he opens his mouth. Speaking of the white house, this question is having the first daughter in the official role the best thing for america . Ivanka trumps new job at the white house raises ethical question. And mike pence said he wont do it, but would you . He wont spend time alone with the opposite sex. Not for dinner. Voice your opinions on the pulse questions. Grab your phone or any digital device you have got. Go to pulse. Msnbc com. You can vote as anymore times as youd like. Well share that data right here on the screen as question go. Okay, lets start this hour though with three pressing questions faces the white house on a sunday. Number one, did Trump Officials dig up intelligence reports related to incidental surveillance of Trump Associates . Two, did those Trump Officials show them to the House Intelligence Committee chairman . Then finally the big question, if so, why . The top ranking democrat on that same committee, adam schiff, offered his first on camera comments since viewing the said documents in question this past week. The white house officials tells schiff those documents were the statement ones viewed by house intelligence chairman nunes. A statement that for him doesnt quite add up. Take a listen. How does the white house know that these are the same materials that were shown to the chairman if the white house wasnt aware what the chairman was being shown . It was told to me by the Deputy Assistant that these materials were produced in the ordinary course of business. Well, the question for the white house and for mr. Spicer is, the ordinary course of whos business . According to reports, three white house officials helped chairman nunes view the documents that were talking about on the white house grounds. Nunes calls those reports though mostly wrong. The challenge was was finding a place to be able to view this information, to be able to get my hands on this information so there were people that probably knew about this. Knew about me being there. But the fact of the matter is, that doesnt make them the source of my information. All right. That brings us to the first pulse question of the day. Do you agree or disagree the house skel Intelligence Committees russia investigation should be halted over questions about chairman cnunes . Let us know what you think. All right, lets go to kelly Kelly Odonnell at the white house for us. As we were running through what has happened so far today, the question is what is next in the investigation . Were starting a new week. Reporter there will be some developments but they come from the senate side, richard. We expect that the senate Intelligence Committee which has a team of investigators, professional sfaf professional staff as theyre known, will begin doing behind the scenes interviews. They have identified 20 witnesses and so the initial interviews will be within that group of individuals where they think they can get some information that will help shape their information about russian interference in the 2016 election. Again, behind the scenes so its a very early starting point. Im also told by sources that House Speaker paul ryan remains confident in the leadership of devin nunes to lead the house intelligence commit can tee. Despite all of the controversy. And all of the attention hes brought on himself. So at this point, no expectation that the speaker who would have the power to decide Committee Chairmanships has any plans to make a change at house intel. When devin nunes talks about seeing the materials you were explaining in your opening piece on white house grounds that means the executive Office Building which is a Tall Building next to the white house, not in the white house itself. The 18 acres here actually comprises a couple of different buildings so he was in a different building there. Same place that congressman adam schiff got to see the same materials where the National Security council is located and where they have some secure facilities to look at intelligence types of data, materials, that sort of thing. That falls under Different Levels of classification. So he was nearby, but not necessarily inside the white house for that. And so this week expect the pressure to remain high. Theres something talked about on the various russian aspects of this investigation, day by day. And the president keeps some of it alive by tweeting his objections to this, saying the real question should be in his mind about surveillance and a leaks and not about alleged ties to anyone associated with donald trump. Richard . Revisiting the wiretapping tweets he had made earlier. Also the New York Times is reporting that fired National Security adviser Michael Flynn failed to report income from russian linked entities on one of two Financial Disclosure forms that were just released yesterday. Now, the senate Intelligence Committee rejected flynns request for immunity in exchange for testimony in their Russian Investigation and that happened last week. The president tweeted his support for flynn seeking immunity calling the investigation a quote witchhunt. And then this morning, he tweeted again saying that quote the real story as Kelly Oconnell is telling us is about surveillance. Ted lieu said agents do surveillance on one, suspected agents of foreign power or two suspected criminal activity, which is it . Thanks for being here with us. Why did you tweet that, what did you want from that . Thank you, richard, for your question. I want a full investigation into this issue because u. S. Officials only do surveillance for one of two reasons. Either there is a suspected agent of a foreign power or theres suspected criminal activity so lets find out what is there and by the way, the president himself can declassify these documents. If trump has nothing to hide he can show the American People whats going on. Are you alluding to the documents that again adam schiff the lead democrat on the House Intel Committee is alluding to, also what we understand that chairman nunes had seen . Is what what youre alluding to . Yes. Let me tell you how ridiculous chairman nunes political stunt was. He goes to the white house and gets these documents from white house officials. The next day hes he calls this press conference saying ive got these secret documents showing surveillance and a i have to run back to the white house and brief them on the very documents the white house handed them the day before. Chairman nunes needs to resign. This political stunt was designed to mislead the American People. So nunes is saying that is not the case. Were on the question if the house investigation is even worthwhile moving forward with at this moment, that we should be looking at the senate at this moment. Right, if the white house wants to clear its name, it would ask chairman nuns es to resign because no one beliefs him any more. But hes entirely partisan, trying to mislead the American People. We cannot believe him anymore. What might turn this around . The senate said no, but if the House Intel Committee says yes to Michael Flynn which were talk about a second ago and give him immunity, might that turn this around . The are you confident in the house effort right now . A great question, richard. As a former prosecutor myself, i know people who believe theyre innocent typically dont ask for immunity. So this is a very huge news break that Michael Flynn is asking for immunity. It shows that he has information that he believes American Public wants to see. This highlights why we need a special prosecutor because only the department of justice itself can decline prosecution over immunity issues. A Congressional Committee cannot offer that on behalf of the department and thats why we need to appoint a special prosecutor in addition to an independent commission to look at the issues. You know your constituents as well as constituents of republican members of congress, they want some progress here. They want to see something coming out of congress. Just because the Approval Rating as was well know is not necessarily high on the hill. As question move forward to as we move forward to issues around the russia connection which is the tax and the budget, which we expect in the next couple of weeks to be hitting the house, what do you expect, what do you want from that piece of legislation . Thank you, richard, for that question. Lets take a step back and consider how shocking it is that the president s associates and maybe the president himself is under investigation by the fbi for possible collusion with russia. At stake is the legitimatesy of the trump administration. There needs to be a pause of whats going on. Congress should not be voting on Supreme Court and Lifetime Appointments or on major tax reform. We need a pause and see where this fbi youre saying stop everything until we answer the questions about the russia connection question thats not routine, absolutely. We should make no major decisions because we dont know if we have a legitimate president. The country could be shut down because we dont have money. Well, hearings on Supreme Court nominations and tax reform should not occur. When it comes to this yes. But obviously we need to continue to move forward on the budget. We dont know if our president is legitimate. All right. Representative ted lieu from california, thank you so much, sir. Thank you. All right. Joining me to discuss this, betty woodruff, political reporter, and kevin cirilli. You heard ted lieu, one who is known for using expletives in his tweets. Hes unsavory i should say with the president at the moment. Maybe outtweeting the president in terms of the use of language. This is really what were seeing on the hill, isnt it . A bitter separation of left and right. Is this are we going to see any progress as i was just alluding to . We have a tax plan, we have a budget thats upcoming as well. I think its extremely unlikely. Nancy pelosi knows that her caucus is about as unified as its ever been. As House Republicans are at each others throats over the Affordable Care act, the democrats have worked in lock step, working together, agreeing on basic policy issues, voting as a bloc. Thats important. That makes democrats and it benefits them politically, of course. They can go home to their constituents and say theyre fighting against trump to say their constituents like that, thats helpful. But it makes pelosi very powerful when the white house comes to her because she has that caucus so disciplined. I think its unlikely well see democrats becoming more warm or more amenable to republicans Going Forward because theres not much in it for them right now. Ill get over to you, kevin, the relationship that speaker ryan has with leader pelosi. How do they get along . Its been talked about that perhaps you know speaker ryan may go to the other side of the aisle and say, i need help here. Look, theres some evidence they have a cordial relationship but ask john baoehner when they go to the other side of the house. Boehner broke the so called hastert rule that had the democratic support but didnt get the support of the republicans. So paul ryan is courting disaster potentially if he decides he has more luck reaching out to democrats than working with conservatives in his own conference. Kevin, your thoughts . Well, i think whats interesting are two things. First and foremost, look, the House Freedom caucus led by mark meadows whatted a victory of sorts had a victory of sorts as any derailing any advancement of the obamacare and now comes the hard work. Who in the white house is going to be negotiating with these tea party members, with people like senator ted cruz and rand paul whom the president spoke with recently . That remains to be seen because House Speaker ryan is in charge of whipping in the house and he was unable to do that. Lets look behind the scenes, the second point id make, who exactly are House Republicans negotiating with in the white house . Is it the former chairman of the republican party, Reince Priebus or do they have another alley in the Vice President s office in mike pence . To the broader point of whether or not democrats are going to get on board with this, certainly not in the house. But look at senators who are up for reelection in red states, people like senator Heidi Heitkamp and joe manchin, those are the type of democrats who might work with republicans on energy in particular. Betsy, you heard the comment by adam schiff. He said i did see the documents, the documents that were allegedly in question here. But he also cast some doubt are those the actual documents that chairman nunes had seen . What is the next move for the lead democrat in the House Intel Committee investigation . We can expect him to put significant pressure on nunes to be as prtransparent about this investigation as possible. The way that the republicans has handled it has undermined a lot of confidence in the House Intel Committee. One thing of course thats important for context on this, is that Michael Flynns request for immunity which was major news story could be a bit of a head fake. Alex whiting a harvard professor wrote about explaining that often when folks like flynn ask for immunity publicly its more of a pr campaign than an act chu actual indicator he has information. If he could take down prominent members of the white house, he would be negotiating privately with folks in the Justice Department to hammer out a deal. The fact that him and his lawyer have gone public with this immunity request means that its more likely that itretheyre tr to stir up pressure to give him immunity from whatever prosecution could end up happening. I think its important not to overstate the significance of his request there. Kevin, to you here. The things were looking forward to this week, we have obviously have gorsuch. One of the topics we have been talking about. China, a meeting with President Trump there in florida. And of course we have the Senate Investigation as a as they do some 20 different interviews this week. What are you watching . Take your pick, right . Look, i think from the economic standpoint, President Trumps meeting with chinas president xi jinping is going to be fascinating. Last week he started to tweet out, it will be a tough conversation given how can critical he has been on china and of course on the trade agreements. Lets all it will be interesting to see whether or not this meeting yields any significant results on trade when they head down to the club at maralago to have their big two day summit. I think theyre both wondering what the other is like. What are they like and how they communicate. Who knows . Whats the bedside manner. Well talk about that in the next hour in fact. Thank you. Sure thing. For the first pulse question, agree or disagree, the House Intelligence Committees russia investigation should be halted over questions about chairman nunes . First overall, look at the numbers it is 83 saying yes we should halt that process. And then when we look at political breakdown, its pretty much the same over democrats, independents and republicans. Agreeing that it should be halted. Then when you take a look though overall, strongly agree when we look at male versus female, and some slight variation seeing those are female strongly agreei agreeing. 81 agrees. 19 disagreeing. He could be the man that could make the break the Russian Investigation wide open. Why were Senate Investigators so quick to turn down general flynns offer to testify in exchange for immunity . Your chance to weigh in on that. The next pulse question agree or disagree, mike flynn should be given immunity to tell everything he knows in the Russian Investigation. Log on to pulse. Msnbc. Com america. Because my dentures fit well. Before those little pieces would get in between my dentures and my gum and it was uncomfortable. 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Now im mashing these potatoes with my stick of butter. Why dont you sit over here. Something for everyone is awesome. Find your awesome with the Xfinity Stream app. More to stream to every screen. So theres a lot we need to learn before entertaining anything like this. Is theres a lot we need to theres a lot we need to learn from other witnesses but i start off with a healthy skepticism. That is how the top democrat on the House Intel Committee said hes approaching mike flynns immunity request. He is saying here its too early in the investigation to consider that. The lawyer for President Trumps former National Security adviser said his client has a story to tell. No one has taken him up on that story yet. This was the reaction from the kremlins spokesperson. You yon certained about anything he might say about his contacts with russia . No, were not. Any blamings that russia could have been interfering in domestic after fafairs of the u states is slander and it has no evidence at all. That brings us to our second question of the day for you. Agree or disagree mike flynn should be given immunity to tell everything that he knows in the Russian Investigation. You can go again to pulse. Msnbc. Com america. Now lets bring in msnbc chief legal correspond end ari melber and the author of how to catch a russian spy. Youve been digging deep on this and whats the downside from the senate or the house granting immunity here long term . Immunity can mean more than one thing. One is the Congressional Committees using their authority to grant immunity for the testimony thats provided basically saying whatever you say wont be held against you. Remember thats the opposite of what you see on the crime shows. Whatever you say can be and will be held against you. The other one is the other one that prosecutors provide. That is where you actually say, youre going to immunize someone for potential prosecution for cooperation. Participants under the law are granted immunity for testifying for the federal government and that refers to the idea that the fbi or doj might say youre turning someone in. Were nowhere near that, because nobody is taking flynn up on any of this right now. Which do you think is more likely . I think if it were to happen. Based on what we know at this early juncture it is unlikely to anyone will hand out immunity because hes a senior figure. When you talk about collaboration immunity, people think about it, again from the big movies. A low level drug dealers turns on the high level mafioso. The National Security adviser is a senior position so to the extent he needs immunity from something he may have done in the eyes of the law, i dont think thats going to be cleared away any time soon. Naveed, one intdz mated that the intimated that the conversation went like this, what kind of fish can you bring me . Who is bigger than the National Security adviser . Was she alluding to the president . I think that is the big quesonnd look, the other thing we dont know, richard, what does the fbi have . I mean, it may be possible that what the fbi has, they dont need general flynn to corroborate. They may have enough evidence to pursue charges without flynns offer of testimony here. So we dont know yet. It seems like a very early, early offer in an investigation which is probably still in its you know, fairly early stages here. Im not sure exactly what the intention of flynn was to come out so early off and say this. You know as previously you reported i think it may be a head fake a bit here. A head fake. Ari, what are the processes like . How does this happen . Because were hearing from the lawyer openly, at least that there was a story to be told. How does this request for immunity happen and then how does the reaction happen . The short answer is not like this. Right. Because i would like immunity, please. And a big dramatic letter. Hey, i have a story to tell. I have been impugned. Theres a showmanship that jumped out to everybody. Very specifically and privately a discussion with again either granting entity, the congress or a prosecutor saying we know what youll provide. We know where its going. The lawyers dont typically ask questions they dont know answers to in the open court or hearing. And here well immune use on the fact that you have something to provide. Either because youre turning somebody over bigger or a larger example we need it. Let me give you a positive example. You could imagine after the 9 11 event that the country might care more about getting all the facts than whether anybody broke some misdemeanor. So you could imagine a scenario where an nsa or a cia agent who saw something go wrong is granted immunity saying oh, you know what, if they put the classified information in the wrong pile and they didnt translate this material in time and that was a contributing factor to why we were caught off guard we care about getting the full story than we do about prosecuting one individual. There are certainly times that the National Interest is greater than the individual prosecution. But is this one of the times . We dont know yet. Naveed, you heard what the kremlin spokesperson said. Theyre not worried about this at all, if an immunity is granted or not. Whats your thought on this spokesperson speaking out on national tv here in the united states, a very uncommon situation. If theyre saying theyre not worried theyre worried. You know, look, this is were talking about flynn, talking about a connection to trump but were not talking about what the russians did. I think there was a very clear and deliberate and planned out operation and i think that operation really consistented of two parts. The second part was a very concerted effort to recruit u. S. Persons. I think, you know, we talk about the house, we talk about the senate, we talk about the fbi investigation. I think that question of what exactly the russians did, how they were able to, you know, potentially pitch which is the beginning stages of recruiting u. S. Persons i think this is something that both republicans and democrats should rally behind. This is a big, big problem. I think that it emboldens pure adversaries like china to look at this as a mode thats successful. Im concerned that we have senior members in the trump cabinet that were approached with an intent a clear intent to target them for recruitment. That concerns me greatly and i think that when it comes to investigations that part of what russia did is something that needs to be focused on. Naveed and ari thank you. Dont miss ari by the way, growing up trump. A special segment of aris show the point tonight. 5 00 p. M. Ari will talk to young people across the political divide about what the trump era means for their generation. All in the studio right here. Thats tonight. 5 00 p. M. Eastern. Thank you. We have been asking you by the way, agree or disagree, mike flynn should be given immunity to tell everything he shows in the Russian Investigation. This is what youre saying so far in terms of the overall tug of war. 94 of you disagree with that. Then we look at age, people 18 to 34 are neutral. People older than that disagree with that. That he should be given immunity. And looking at the graph of the political breakdown we can see here that republicans in most cases are neutral. Independents, democrats disagreeing. 88 disagree that mike flynn should be given immunity to tell everything he knows about the Russian Investigation. Thanks for doing that. Well have another question for you. 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Or is this crossing the line . Is this nepotism. Lets take a listen. I dont really have an issue. Many times in the past thats been done in other administrations. I think its nepotism at the highest level. If i took one of my two daughters over there and i said, hey, were going to give her a job it would be wholly unappropriate. At the end of the day, i think he can have he can do what he wants. Hes the president. Daddy, can you help me . It seems problematic, what are her qualifications to be adviser to the president . It was extremely divided and they were from all over the country. Whats interesting is that first daughter and first son influence is not new. Its not always official as icaiva ivan ivankas role is, but not unusual. I spoke with National First Ladies Library historian karl anthony and he pointed out many first children with big roles. Going back in history a little bit, julie nixon eisenhower. She was instrumental in the Reelection Campaign in 1972. She spoke at rallies and she was tasked with interpreting her fathers message. Theres recordings of her and her father speaking on the phone after that. And anna roosevelt. She was even chosen even when first Lady Eleanor Roosevelt could travel. Sometimes her father would choose anna to go with her, for example, to the conference in yalta. John eisenhower, he was a first son. This in an official kastcapacit. He did accept the salary. But historian anthony said theres a recent and more relevant example of this. The most relevant parallel here between ivanka trump having an official office in the west wing and having an official title is actually to the example in early 1993 of first Lady Hillary Rodham clinton being given a west wing office and being tasked with heading president clintons Health Care Reform effort. So as karl anthony just said theyre very similar. West wing office not accepting the salary. A lot of people are upset because ivanka does not have government experience. Shes just a business woman whereas hillary was a government servant. Something that is actually unprecedented here is that both ivanka and her husband both have official roles within the government. Thats the first time thats ever happened. There have been three first daughters married to Government Servants but did not actually have official roles. So the real issue, hillary, was the first lady. And ivanka is the first daughter. But this gets at nepotism. Looking at where the u. S. Lands in nepotism, we are in the middle. I want to point out that enormous influences is down here at 1. And no influence is over here at 7. So in finland, not prevalent at all. In zambia, very prevalent. We fell into the middle of the scale. One of the things thats very interesting to me when i was speaking with the people a lot of people said what upset them is that this wouldnt fly in the real world. For them they couldnt give their son or daughter a job in the way that President Trump has with ivanka. But i went through some census data. I found out that 22 of americans by the age of 30 will be working for the same employer at the same time as their father. And in addition to that, 6 will work at a company that their parent recently left. Richard . I guess that means im going to become a pastor. I dont know. Very interesting. Its a sunday, why not . Very interesting stuff. Savannah sellers, thank you. All right. Lets bring in political analyst robert trainen and a democratic strategist. Thank you. Ivanka reacted to the criticisms and she put out a statement. She said this heard, i have heard the concerns some have with my advising the president in my personal capacity and volunteering complying with the ethics rules and i will instead serve as an unpaid employee. Robert she was saying im no longer the unpaid adviser, im the unpaid official employee of this great country. Does that relieve some of the concerns that you might have here . Yes, it does. Because the reason why she just said it. She now is is an official Government Employee. So what does that mean, richard . It means she has to fill out ethics forms and she has to be transparent. It means she needs to use a government email. It means that in fact she could be subpoenaed before congress if need be. It means just that. Shes a Government Employee whether shes making 1 4u00 10 year or 1, she has to abide by every single ethics law that every single Government Employee has to abide by. Thing is a good thing and kudos for her for proactively doing this. You heard savannah describe the precedence here, right, that we have seen before in the history of our great country. Does that make this okay, another chapter if you will . Robert says things are on the up and up. No not for me. America kicked aristocracy to the curb over a hundred years ago for a reason. I think there are thousands more capable conservative women who could have taken this role and denied that role simply because shes her fathers daughter. Thats the very definition of nepotism. You know, she has always been an informal adviser to her father and any of his work, whether it be in business. And when he was running the president ial campaign. Thats not a surprise. But she can continue to have that influence doing her work, her women at work policy stuff shes been doing through her business. And not necessarily in the white house. Where theres more experienced individuals who have a lot of great credibility who could be doing that work for donald trump. Speaking about business, the Financial Disclosures on friday, the white house releasing over a hundred of them. Big numbers here, righ Jared Kushner and ivanka trump worth over 740 million. I think its not the quantity, but the potential congliktflict interest of the countries theyre doing business in and what the deals might be going now and forward. Thats good question. I dont think anybody is surprised by the number, at least i was unt. I looked at some of the comments, people werent surprised. I think the question is whether or not theres some congliktd of interest and whether or not you can recuse yourself given the broad portfolio you may have in the white house, ie, Jared Kushner. When you look at his business in terms of the real estate dealings its impossible for him to recuse himself because there are so many things there. I think thats a deeper question that quite frankly the American People need to ask the president is whether or not that is appropriate because i think thats a legitimate question to be raised. The question were asking here is ivanka in the white house good for the president , good for the country we . We are seeing a white house in turmoil right now. Your thought as a progressive here. Yeah. Heres the thing for me. I dont think we should be in the business of putting children in the white house specifically to run policy. Either hes doing this because a lot of the gop, talented conservatives out there who have worked on president ial administrations for years dont want to work for him. Certainly having several appointments open indicates that might be the case or hes grooming the family to take over a throne. Amanda carpenter, a conservative commentator wrote for k cosmopolitan, this unpaid job gives off the air of a royal princess. Not that she thinks she is one, but it looks like this. And if Hillary Clinton did this for chelsea there would have been a lot of screaming and appropriate for that. What is not the country we have been. Republicans always talk about meritocracy. We have prided ourselves on being the country that people work for what they get. This is not an example of that in any way, shape or form. I know you have no reaction, but well get you next time. Thank you both and have a good sunday. Thank you. Now we have been asking this question, agree or disagree, ivanka trump having an official job at the white house is it good for the country . This is what youre saying so far. 98 say no. Not good for the country. Then when we look at the educational level, pretty much everybody is saying no. Not good for the country. Except high school is slightly different. Statistically again, very, very close. Then finally here, you get the picture here. A lot of folks strongly disagreeing on this should ivanka trump have an official job at the white house, 97 disagreeing. Thank you all for participating. We have another question for you coming up. Every marriage has its rules. Like do not put an empty carton back in the fridge or dont touch the thermostat after we agree on the correct temperature. 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Well, it all started with a Washington Post profile on Vice President pences wife karen pence which he was alluding to the Vice President. It said this in part, in 2000, mike pence told the hill he never eats alone with a woman other than his wife and he will not attend events featuring alcohol without her by his side either. Critics called this sexist. One woman who worked for him in congress, said his personal decision no tot dine alone with to not dine alone with female staffers was never a hindrance and never kept me from reaping the rewards of my job, end quote. Do you agree or disagree, Vice President pences rule of never eating alone with a woman other than his wife a good idea . Here to talk with us is liz from vox. Com. Is it sexist . Yes, but a different kind of sexism than were used to seeing. We have two men in the white house, one of them has bragged about sexually assaulting women and the other one says he does want dont eat alone with a woman. Its benevolent sexism. It comes off as a compliment, but its sexism with a wink and a smile. Its still basically saying that women and men are different and that women should be or can be excluded from very important parts of society because they are women. Would it be different if he was hes not in the sales position specifically lets just say, but lets say he worked in sales for a larging the company he had to for a Large Tech Company and this was part of what he did day to day, is that a different policy . You cant do it . Imagine if he was a woman. Could a woman could i do that if i was in that position . Exclude men from any gender. Exactly. So its wrong. And its not something that women can do. Obviously its also a reflection i think of the antiquated why and the antiquated view that a lot of members of the gop have of women. If you look at the way that mike pence and donald trump have conducted themselves in the white house, you know, signing executive orders restriction restricting womens reproductive rights and restricting access to a good point. By itself, yeah, you can have that role and you can be a feminist and you can do your job well, but amongst everything around thats been happening with this administration, it fits in with a bad thematic. A badnary gi narrative. Where are the women in this administration, there are some, but not a lot. Its one of the most white and male administrations that we have seen in a very, very long time. So are we Going Forward . Are we going backwards . I can see where across the generational lines those who are younger would go, i dont quite get this. Its very different when it comes to those who are having the younger perspective on the way equality might or might not exist. Republicans need the young voters. So do the democrats. Liz thank you some, his plank with vox. Com. Thank you. Still time to weigh in, agree or disagree, Vice President pences rule of never eating alone with a woman who is not his wife a good idea . The results, next. An. Except for every ladies night. Only glad has forceflex to prevent rips, leaks, and punctures. So whatever you throw in the bag. Stays in the bag. Be happy, its glad. Before fibromyalgia, i was a doer. I was active. Then the chronic, widespread pain drained my energy. My doctor said moving more helps ease fibromyalgia pain. She also prescribed lyrica. Fibromyalgia is thought to be the result of overactive nerves. Lyrica is believed to calm these nerves. Woman for some, lyrica can significantly relieve fibromyalgia pain and improve function, so i feel better. Lyrica may cause serious allergic reactions or suicidal thoughts or actions. Tell your doctor right away if you have these, new or worsening depression, or unusual changes in mood or behavior. 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