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Rev. Al Sharpton reviews the days top political and humaninterest stories and interviews newsmakers from across the political spectrum. Might be shrinking a little bit, but that base is going to stay the same. The Republican Party hasnt changed. It remains free trade, doesnt like his tariffs, remains very solidly behind brett kavanaugh, they like neil gorsuch, they like the military buildup, they love 4 gdp. If the president were not dragged down by the scandals and the russian investigation, 55 , the generic ballot right now is 7 if you look, about 5 of them, but it is about 7 , i dont think there is a blue wave, i think that Heidi Heitkamp will lose in north dakota. I think that joe manchin will lose in west virginia, joe donnelly in indiana will lose, bill nelson will lose in florida. I think the republican to pick up four or five seats in the senate and theyre going to hold the house because you do not have outside of the core msnbc audience, outside of your core support, al, there just isnt the churning and the Resistance Movement that we thought would materialize in the michael cohen tapes arent going to spark it. The assessment you just heard from you, theyre going to pick up four, five senate seats, when you look at the fact that we are hearing in the media blue wave, but we really dont know. I travel a lot, im on the ground a lot, i dont feel a lot of energy, more than you gave us. But i dont think were at the cemetery, but i do think that were in the hospital on the left. The question becomes to me, what does any of this i think you raise a very legitimate point, what does any of this do in terms of giving energy to people who come out and vote, do the russian investigators even matter in terms of the midterms . And suppose if mueller comes back and says i found nothing on the president , but ive got everybody else, doesnt back fire. I think thats a rare possibility. I dont know thats going to happen. I think based on what we know now Dont Know Whats going to happen. That he comes back with nothing. We know enough now to know i think the president knew something. We dont know exactly the extent. Suppose mueller comes back and says all of this we cant indict him. I cant indict him. You dont think donald trump will use that for a victory lap . Absolutely. Will that not affect the midterm. It will affect absolutely and it will affect the midterms. Heres the thing. I think the people around donald trump meaning his son, his daughter, his soninlaw, theyre all implicated in this, not just on the Collusion Side and meeting with russians and trump tower, but also the Trump Foundation now is in a legal pickle and also the Trump Organization now, the cfo being subpoenaed is a very Significant Development and maybe more significant than the cohen tapes. I think this is going to impact the midterms. But what im looking at in terms of the blue wave, im looking at the special elections we had. Certainly not a perfect indicator, but it does show when you see the state, doug jones in alabama, extenuating circumstances there, but you see Women Running For Office for first time, first time women candidates winning and women going out to the polls and organizing to elect these women to office, so i do think there is a blue wave when one of the things that im seeing is that the message of the democrats has not gotten out as sharply as the republican, you mentioned the 4. 1 gdp, they had that a couple of times under obama, but nobody is talking about that on the democratic side. So it looks like a major accomplishment when in fact hes done what President Obama did more than once. You know, it is your party. My party is out there talking economic growth, military strength, and judges. Youre out there talking impeachment, abolish ice and a bunch of marginal issues that dont impact anyone. No program on health care. It is called obamacare. What are you talking about . My party, we would be in charge of the senate and the congress and the white house. I might be a member of the party, but i havent quite made it my party. That might be the problem. Thank you. Coming up, are we getting closer to figuring out what happened in the private meeting between President Donald Trump and Vladimir Putin . And later, a new documentary, reexamines the life and leg acy of Trayvon Martin, whose death became a catalyst for the black lives matter movement. Well be right back. And should not be used more than once a day. Tell your doctor if you have a heart condition, high Blood Pressure, glaucoma, prostate, bladder, or urinary problems. These may worsen with anoro. Call your doctor if you have worsened breathing, chest pain, mouth or tongue swelling, problems urinating, vision changes, or eye pain while taking anoro. Ask your doctor about anoro. Go your own way get your first prescription free at anoro. Com. Get your first prescription free are you ready to take your then you need xfinity xfi. . A more powerful way to stay connected. It gives you super fast speeds for all your devices, provides the most Wifi Coverage for your home, and lets you control your network with the xfi app. Its the ultimate wifi experience. Xfinity xfi, simple, easy, awesome. Appreciate you characterizing my questions. My questions is to get to the truth. We Dont Know What the truth is. Though it happened two weeks ago, we still Dont Know What was said in a private, but official meeting between President Donald Trump and his russian counterpart, Vladimir Putin. So this week the Senate Foreign Relations Committee tried to get that information out of Secretary Of State mike pompeo. But he did not say a word about that one on one meeting. Earlier i spoke with senator ben cardin who sits on the Foreign Relations committee. Did you get any insight at all from his testimony on what was discussed in those two hours where these two leaders of various states that have been adversarial, what did they talk about . Well, we do not have a readout for what happened in the room, mr. Pompeo would hide behind the fact that he said that no policies have been changed. But he didnt exactly tell us what was discussed or even what subjects were discussed in the one on one meeting. He did go over some general areas that were talked about, but he did not give us a real readout on the socalled agreements that were reached and why there would be a need for a followup meeting as early as this fall. He did not really give us much comfort in that regard. Isnt that alarming given that were dealing with the whole question of russian interference in the elections of 2016, his whole country based on democratic participation, as well as were hearing about tariffs, were hearing about trade agreements, all of which could have been discussed by the russian president and the u. S. President and we know nothing about it. Isnt that alarming to you . What is alarming is the fact there was a one on one meeting without third parties being present to record what was done. The director of National Intelligence said he would not have recommended that type of a format for the president of the United States meeting with mr. Putin. So we really dont have a clear readout. Thats one of the reasons why there is an interest in getting the notes of the interpreter. We do know that in russia they were cheering as to what happened in helsinki, and the white house, they were scrambling. So we really it is very concerning we dont have a clear readout as to what was talked about and what was agreed in helsinki. How troubling is it to your colleagues in the Foreign Relations committee that we have no real understanding, not only of the meeting, let me broaden it, but real understanding of where we are with the russian interference in an american election. You have the president standing next to putin saying he has no reason to believe they were involved, then he comes back and says he misspoke one word which really the whole spirit of what he said in many words confirmed that one word he claimed misstated because if you look at the body of what he said, he clearly was not indicting putin or russia. Does that disturb members of the committee who has to deal with not only our affairs with russia, but our affairs with foreign powers all over the world . Absolutely. I think the Senate Foreign Relations Committee understands what is at risk here. You had the president of the United States getting a free pass, even worse than that, to the president of russia, who interfered in our elections. No question about that. Thats beyond any dispute that russia interfered in our election, and mr. Putin directed it. With an opportunity to be clear thats unacceptable and that was brought up at the summit, President Trump passed on that. Worse, sided with mr. Putin rather than his own intelligence agencies. Thats why there is a concern not only for us to find out exactly what happened in the room, between the two leaders, but to pass additional legislation to protect us against the 2018 elections because we think the message in helsinki, by President Trump, to mr. Putin, you can do this again, and there will be little consequences. Talking about concerns, let me raise another. Many of us are concerned about the nomination to the Supreme Court of judge brett kavanaugh. Where do you stand on that and im asking you this, in light of the fact that Senate Majority leader Mcconnell Has said he wants to move quickly, and there are many on the other side of the aisle, the democrats, that are saying they want to be able to go through his long extensive record as a judge and is working the white house under the bush administration. This is very troublesome for many different points of view. First, Leader Mcconnell said for President Obama, 11 months was not long enough to consider a Supreme Court nominee. Here we have Leader Mcconnell saying for President Trump, couple of months is adequate time. Secondly, with nominees that have worked in the white house, the tradition of our senate is to get all their records during that time theyre in the white house, that was done for justice kagan. And we are we asked for the same exact information in regards to judge cavanaugh and so far we have not gotten that understanding with the republicans. So thats extremely troublesome that we may not get access to the full record of judge cavanaugh. And then lastly, when we look at his background, our objective here is that before voting on this nominee, we want to know whether he will be an independent voice on the Supreme Court to protect your rights against the powerful, whether that person is president of the United States, congressman, or the corporate america. And judge cavanaughs background gives us real concern about that, in regards to health care and regards to Consumer Rights and in regards to interfearing with the Mueller Investigation by the president. So that information is critically important for us to be able to make that case to the american people. So on all fronts, we are very concerned about this nominee. Certainly, and adding to that, of course, the Civil Rights Community that i work in, the voting rights, and affirmative action, other things, that this judge has a background, not one we agree with, and making rulings, but you touched on something that is very troubling. And that is he has taken the position that a president should not face any kind of indictment or accountability in terms of criminality if, in fact, that is established proven or even accused, while hes in office. What happens if the Mueller Investigation comes back and says something about this president and you have someone he nominates sitting on the Supreme Court and it becomes a Supreme Court decision on whether they can proceed or not. Will you and others ask that this judge and for that matter Justice Gorsuch have to recuse themselves . It is a very important point. Were not at that point yet because we still hold out hope that the confirmation process, were going to find out information about that and well see whether how the senators vote on this confirmation. Were not at this point that hes already been confirmed, but i do want to underscore the point that you made, the list that the president chose this nominee was done by an outside group, with an agenda, and thats unprecedented. And why did judge cavanaugh sort of stand out with President Trump. We think it is because of his outspoken record against the president of the United States being held during his term of office to outside investigations that he could defer all of that. Which seems to say that he would be a solid vote on the Supreme Court for President Trump against the Mueller Investigation. Thats deeply troubling to us. Deeply troubling. So your point that youre raising is absolutely accurate. It appears that the president wants to get a person on the court that will agree with his position where it is critically important that the Supreme Court act as an independent check and balance on the presidency. Thank you. Up next, a brandnew edition of living while black. Be right back. At t provides edgetoedge intelligence, covering virtually every part of your business. So this wont happen. Because youve made sure this sensor and this machine are integrated. Atta, boy. Yes, some people assign genders to machines. With edgetoedge intelligence, youll know your customers love this color, dont love this one. Never getting grape again. You can adjust in near real time. If someone tries to breach your firewall in london you start to panic. Dont. Youve got allies on the outside, Security Algorithms on the inside. If its jammed up here, its hot in here. You know both those things, you can do this. Your flowers wont wilt. At t provides edge to edge intelligence. 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Then a 78yearold black florida woman filed a lawsuit against banking giant wells fargo, a year after she alleges a white Branch Manager suspected her of forgery and called the cops who ultimately confirmed her identity, enabling her to get money, but no kind of apology, she said. And in buffalo, new york, the manager of a Dollar General store lost his job this week after calling the law on a black teacher because she dared to use companyissued coupons. On learning the story, Buffalo Police were so over it, that they didnt even bother to keep a record. As i will continue to say, these videos, these stories visually confirm the argument that i and other activists have been making for years, the difference between prejudice and racism is power. And this case, the power of biased civilians to invoke the state and constantly be believed or to take that action themselves and consistently live to tell about it. 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Also facing a legal battle is the family of marquis mclaughlin, the 28yearold father of three shot and killed in an argument at a Florida Gas Station last week. His death evoking that of Trayvon Martin six years ago because of the states Stand Your Ground Law and rule. Joining me now is civil rights attorney ben krumpf. Let me start with you, the mclaughlin case, Stand Your Ground is the defense argument, white male shoots and kills mclaughlin in front of his girlfriend and three of their children. Next sunday, a week from today at 4 00 at the st. John Baptist Church On Palmetto Street in clear water, florida, i and National Action network will join you and the family raising this issue of Stand Your Ground, this rule in florida and 13 other states, i believe, that we will pose since Trayvon Martin. Tell us about the mcglockton case and why the Stand Your Ground Law is so egregious to so many of us. Well, reverend al, thank you for coming to clearwater on behalf of the mcglockton family. Just like the killing of Trayvon Martin six years ago, you have a white man who is the initial aggressor, starts the confrontation, and then kills an unarmed black man and gets to go home and sleep in his bed at night. Now, it is troubling on so many levels that you have this subjective fear, not objective at all, but you get to go home and sleep in your bed at night. Black people do this, they are behind bars that night arguing they were defending themselves. It is a double standard, especially when you consider what happened in this case. This strange cop wannabe comes up to this woman who is sitting in her car, with her two toddlers, 3yearold daughter and a 4monthold baby boy in the back seat and starts hitting on yelling at her, cursing at her, and pointing his finger at her, and her boyfriend, who is with their 5yearold son in the Convenience Store is alerted and comes out to defend his family and his property. If anybody had a right to Stand Your Ground, it was marquis mcglockton. But when he according to the tape that were running was clearly even backing up, i dont even know how you say you are in eminent danger. They got into an argument, him defending his girlfriend and children who the man had come after, arguing at them, and hes backing up and the guy shoots him. How are you in imminent danger. Absolutely. Watch the video. You dont have to take anybody word for it. When he pulls the good, everybody starts to back up. Marquis takes four steps back, four seconds he there say white gentleman there walking up, he jumps back as well. He is not an objective fear this is not justified on any level, this Stand Your Ground Law is a License To Kill Black and people of color with no consequences. And thats what we see happening over and over again, and the legacy of Trayvon Martin is that his family starts to tell their story and their docuseries is at the crux of this political season well deal with that docuseries in the next segment and ill be with them tonight at the apollo. But, jason johnson, when we look at this, when we look at the case in mobile, alabama, that both ben crump and i have been down there with clemens when we look at what happened with nia in california, are we seeing an emboldening of people that really want to come out and just aggressively deal in a racist manner, are we just seeing it again being exposed because one of the things that ive questioned is why the media has not been talking more about what happened to mcglockton. People argue why does al sharpton and others march if you dont rally and do things, they dont make it a news item. It is like we dont matter. Yeah, there is several levels to this. I think it is important for the audience to understand the strength of distinction. What happens to nia, that woman in california, thats terrorism. And we have seen a rise of White Nationalist terrorism in this country. You see large numbers of vaguely employed white men with bizarre criminal records who are killing black people at random, stabbing them with knives, shooting them with guns, and then, you know, only sometimes running sometimes not running away, demonstrating theyre willing to kill a black person. What you see with so many other viral videos, with Somebody Being yelled at for speaking spanish in new york, and the shooting with mcglockton in florida, thats just the emboldening of white bigotry by a White Nationalist, White Supremacist presidency and his cronies like, you know, Jeff Sessions and Steven Miller and all the other White Nationalists hes empowered. It is a daily danger to live life as a black person in this country. That has never not been the case. But the emboldening of your random white bigots and then the loosening of the grips on white terrorism in this country has raised the stakes for all of us. It is extremely important to take into consideration. Im not going to tell you to avoid any white man that walks up to you and doesnt seem to know you and might possibly stab you. That would be crazy and make it difficult to use the subway. I will say this, it might be in black peoples best interest to be more invested now in buying guns and teaching yourself about safety and making sure that you vote in every single local election that you can to get rid of police chiefs, prosecutors who do not take these cases seriously. In florida, there is a governors race this year, there is a senate race, state legislature races. Shouldnt the Stand Your Ground Law be prosecute of what the citizens in florida raise to each of the candidates to take a stand, given what happened to trayvon and the acquittal of zimmerman on using Stand Your Ground really as a basis for what he did, given what now has happened to marquis, shouldnt that be a central test for every candidate in the state of florida . Should we be saying that next week when were in clear water . Absolutely, reverend. And Dont Forget Cory Jones and palm beach who you preached the eulogy because the Police Officer raise Stand Your Ground in that case. It is a critical issue, especially to people of color because when they kill our young people, theyre saying Stand Your Ground. There have been exonerated, they have been not held accountable. Can you imagine, reverend al, if this was a black man who approached a white woman with her two children in the back seat, yelling and cursing at her and when the father came out to defend his family, that black man shot this white strange man . It would not only would he be arrested, if he made it out of the parking lot without being shot, and thats why im so proud of senator cory booker, senator Kamala Harris and senator bill nelson and others for demanding the Department Of Justice start an investigation since the local Law Enforcement agency says theyre not going to arrest him. The State Attorney and the federal government are the only two people who can bring justice for marquis mcglockton. Im going to have to leave it there. Thank you, Benjamin Crump and jason johnson. Up next, a new Documentary Sheds light on one of the most talked about and controversial events in the last decade. Well be right back. Let your perfect drive come together at the Lincoln Summer Invitation sales event. Get 0 apr on select 2018 lincoln models plus 1,000 bonus cash. Copd makes it hard to breathe. So to breathe better, i go with anoro. Go your own way copd tries to say, go this way. I say, ill go my own way, with anoro. 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A miscarriage of justice that sparked a movement and made Trayvon Martins hooded face a symbol of todays civil rights struggle. Tonight, i join trayvons parents at the Apoll Joe Theater In Harlem for a screening of rest in power, the Trayvon Martin story, a powerful new film documenting not just the tragedy of his death, but the enduring legacy of his life. Joining me now is Sabriybrina Fn and tracy martin, the parents of Trayvon Martin. And coexecutive producers of rest in power. You Treyvon Martin and coproducers. When this whole thing started and here we are six years later, Stand Your Groundwreck back in the forefront of civil rights struggles, young activists already fighting in clear water. We want to go in and deal with it. The documentary becomes even more important because this is not something of the past. It shows what people like you and i and others warned if we didnt begin. Absolutely. I truly believe history is going to continue to repeat itself as long as people try to cover up and pretend like Stand Your Ground is a good law. This is not a good law for africanamericans, and they need to do something about that immediately before more africanamericans are being killed. The Stand Your Ground does not work for us. Its not a law that benefits us at all. As a matter of fact, its used against us and allows people to walk free with no recourse. You know, tracy, one of the things that always got to me as i was involved in these cases is people dont realize the familys side, the union side. I remember the first time i sat to you in the office and you started talking about but, rev, this is my son and telling that story. He was coming to see you when he was shot and killed. And the family side that you and sabrina feel, that missing seat in every holiday never leaves. And i think part of what this documentary does is show a lot of the human side not just the movement side. Correct. Often we talk about the movement and how we tried to progress after the death. For many its a story, but for us this is our livelihood. We know, we look at it as this is our son, we raised, we nurtured him and so a piece of that had been taken away from us. And 2,045 days later were seeing the same thing over and over again. The acquittal is allowing White Nationalists and White Supremacists to go out and take kids away from their families the way trayvon was taken away from us. This cant continue to go on. You all founded a foundation. Jayz is coexecutive producers. So youve not just looked back. Youve not just sat and just continued to be more memorializing Affyo Memorializing of your son but youve become an activist. You said in the documentary his being shot down made you stand up. Absolutely. I think a lot of pressure was taken off of me when i started helping other mothers of other families, we started going to other cities to lift up other families for them to be encouraged. Its good to know you have people standing with you that when they say i know huyou feel, we know how they feel. We had channeled that negative energy because of what the verdict was. We do back to school programs. We have a lot of programs we do to help not just only the community but help the nation in trying to channel that energy into somethingpe positive. Im going to see you tonight at the apollo. Were going to have a discussion Fisher Investments never does. And while some advisers are happy to earn commissions from you whether you do well or not, Fisher Investments fees are structured so we do better when you do better. Maybe thats why most of our clients come from other money managers. Fisher investments. Clearly better money management. 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King, Jesse Jackson and others have done, we did our style, our way with the same goals. And then we look at the generation behind us, my own daughters actually, my oldest daughter dominique got mar aid last october. And her and her husband announced last month that they are having a child, my first grandchild will be born. And then i thought about it as i hear about the case now in clear water, florida. I hear about what happened in the waffle house in alabama, and i went down there and nia in oakland and i think about what kind of world will by grandchild have. Thats why the struggle must continue from generation to generation not if we win, till we win. Equal protection under the law for everybody. And one standard of equal opportunity. It expresses itself differently, different styles, but we cant

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