Longtime butler and a strong new push on equality from president obama. From Rockefeller Center in new york, this is politicsnation with al sharpton. Good morning. Im al sharpton. Donald trump wants gop leaders to take him seriously. But he spent days dealing with other issues like hateful talk from a former butler, claims about phony calls to reporters back in the 90s, and his own admission that he doesnt have policies, just, quote, suggestions. Gop leaders dote want to deal with any of that. Speaker paul ryan made it clear what they do want after meeting with trump this week. What is it that we need to do to unify the Republican Party . We are now planting the seeds to get ourselves unified, a process on how we unify. Unifying the Republican Party is very important that we dont fake unifying, we dont pretend unification, that we truly and actually unify. I dont want us to have a fake unification. What it takes to unify, unite all of us. A unified Republican Party. Can we unify . How do we unify at all . Can we unify . Okay, we get it. They want unity. Ryan hasnt endorsed trump yet, but trump says hes willing to wait. I thought it was a great meeting. We had we discussed a lot of things, a lot of very important things. And i thought it was really a very, very good meeting. I think paul felt the same way, and everybody else did also. I dont mind going through a little bit of a slow process. Its a very big subject. I mean, we have a lot of things. And i think for the most part we agree on a lot of different items, and were getting there. But the same day trump reached out to republicans, he suddenly had to distance himself from his longtime butler who sparked outrage for writing on facebook that president obama should be, quote, shot. And then doubling down in an interview with nbc news. I think he ought to be hung. I think he should be hung. I think he should be hung next to Hillary Clinton, and i think it should be public. I think it should be televised. I think it ought to be done from the portico of the white mosque. It used to be the white house. The Trump Campaign has disavowed those comments. Trump also denied a report that back in 1991, he posed as a publicist named john miller in phone calls with reporters. How are you . Good. How are you . Whats your name again . John miller. What is your position . Well, im handling pr. Hes starting to do tremendously well financially. The people that you write about really are i mean, they call they just call. Actresses, people that you write about just call to see if they can go out with him. Hes living with marla and hes got three other girlfriends. Now, i dont know whether to call him donald trump or john miller, but i do know that republicans have a few more things to think about as they decide whether to unify with their presumptive nominee. Lets bring in our pam. Panel. Democratic strategist and former congressional candidate krystal ba ball, New York TimesNational Reporter yamesha and editor in chief of reason magazine, matt welch. Thank you all for being here. Thanks for having us, he have. Krystal, can trump get gop leaders to take him seriously when there are headlines about butlers and fake calls . Well, if the things that he has already said and done werent deal breakers for people like paul ryan, im not sure whats going to be. I mean, i dont think we have to look at the people that hes hired or things that he did 25 years ago to find things that should be absolute red lines and nogoes for people like paul ryan. I mean, if you have to really think seriously about whether to back a guy who was reluctant to distance himself from david duke who called mexican immigrants racist and has repeatedly made insulting comments about women, people with disabilities, et cetera. Called mexicans rapists. Exactly. Did i say racist . My apologies, yeah, rapists. So i dont think that these are going to change anything for these leaders. Ultimately they want to win. And if they calculate that backing there trump is going to be the way to win, thats who theyre going to do. Even digging a little deeper, he says that things he said like the muslim ban was just a suggestion. I mean, like, everything he says is a suggestion. Listen. Yeah, it was a suggestion. Look, anything i say right now, im not the president. Everything is a suggestion. No matter what you say, its a suggestion. Well, will trump voters care that he may not mean or believe what hes saying . What trump has really shown is that he can say a lot of different things, kind of contradict himself, and still keep winning and still keep his base. The idea that the people that are supporting trump are really motivated not only by his policy ideas, but theyre motivated by what he represents. They think that hes going to be making quote, unquote, America Great again. They think that hes going to be the person who is going to kind of solve their problems. I think a lot of the people that are Backing Trump have economic issues, are looking at their futures, and really worried about whether or not their kids are going to be able to make it, whether or not the world that theyre seeing is going to be a better one in the future. And whether or not theyve lost something. I think a lot of people that ive talked to, even though i covered Bernie Sanders, a lot of people are really anxious about the country and really anxious about whether or not we come out of a recession. So i think that trump saying that he has suggestions with policies i dont think is really going to change that much for his base. Hes running on the force of his personality more than any specific policy suggestion, really. But matt, you know, gop senator johnny isakson, he has said he didnt want to talk about trumps policies. He said, quote, i need laryngitis as quick as i can get it. I mean, was this a good or bad week for trump . How long can elected republicans dodge questions about trumps views . Itself going to be a great season for vicks sales on capitol hill. No, a lot of people are going to be holding their nose. Like mitch mcconnell. Mcconnell never opposed donald trump. He didnt go the showy paul ryan move. He just said hes going to be our nominee, okay, whatever, but i dont want to talk about it. Ryan made a big show of it. Now ryans going to have to be ritually humiliated and brought to heel. So youre going to see a lot of people try to protect the downballot races so theres no trump damage to that and focus on that instead and not really talk a whole lot. But meanwhile, with paul ryan and Lindsey Graham and other people. They dont have a choice. Hes going to be the nominee. Right. So theyre going to want to try to influence him. So ryans trying to tell him about longterm deficits which has always been his project. Lindsey graham and the hawks are going to be trying to tell him hold on, dont talk about dissolving nato. But can you unfluns hiinflue . Krystal, his Senior Adviser in talking to Chris Matthews this week, he said he expected at the Gop Convention let me show you what he said. All right. Break some eggs, though, right . I dont think we have to break any eggs. Reince priebus is going to give us an exciting convention . Come on donald trump is going to give you an exciting convention. What do you have . Do you have movies . Were going to put a program together. Its not put together yet. This is the ultimate reality show. Its the presidency of the United States. A reality show, krystal . A reality show . I mean, what are they thinking in the trump tower . I dont know. I think thats a very revealing comment because i do think that they kind of think of this as the ultimate reality show. We can get caught up in these questions of whether the leadership of the Republican Party is united or not and whether theyre all going to back mr. Trump and some have already said that they wouldnt. But if you look at the party, mr. Trump has already unified most of the party, as much of the base of the party as the democrats have unified behind Hillary Clinton. So these leaders are missing the fact that he has already vanquished 16 opponents. They need to be asking themselves harder questions about what that says about their party and what that says about their role in the rise of trump. What has paul ryan done that has contributed to this environment that has created donald trump . Ill tell you one thing, that none of them have been able to do that mr. Trump has actually been able to speak to some of the economic anxieties of the base of the party. And paul ryan and the others have othered absolutely nothing in terms of solutions. Thats what she should referring to. Let me ask you this. The butler and his outrageous statements, the claims of a fake pr calls, will any of these stick to trump . I think if we look at the past, we can say that trump has been able to kind of dance around a lot of things and distance himself. You think if he goes into a general election, though, whether or not thats going to matter is a different thing than whether or not its going to matter to the Republican Base. I think the Republican Base and the people that have already supported trump, theyre not leaving because of what his butler said or because of any changes in his policies or even because of what Republican Leaders say. But i think when he goes into a general election and you have somebody talking about hanging a sitting president and you have somebody talking about hanging your opponent, i think thats going to matter to the people and independents and the people that are trying and the 17 million Republican Voters who didnt vote for him because while paul ryan said that he has gotten the most votes in the republican history in terms of republican nominees, there are 17 Million People who voted against him. And that means something. And those people, i think, are going to care about that. Matt, the point is that i think she makes a good point. The point also is, lets remember that all of the republican primary voters, thats just a percentage of the vote that is in the general election. I think its less than 20 has voted. So youre dealing with a much broader base of voters that you have to contend with now who may react much differently than the Republican Base voters that voted in the primary. Correct, but as krystal pointed out, hillary or democratic voters, about 20 of them, say theyre not sure about voting for hillary. Its only about 25 of republicans. Those numbers are are surprisingly close. There are more democrats than republicans. So its not totally apples to apples. But the other thing to think about, its not right now about trump unifying the Republican Party. Its about trump going after Bernie Sanders voters. That is the moment that he had this thing seemed up, he started talking about how nafta was the worst theres no way. Theres no way. You might say theres no way. Im talking about strategy, not about possibility. In order to win, he needs to go after women voters, which is going to be a hell of a thing for him to do. But independents support Bernie Sanders, young people support Bernie Sanders and women support Bernie Sanders. Lots more straight ahead. Straight ahead, the premiere of our Campaign Series the trump effect. 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If you have diabetes and burning, shooting pain in your feet or hands, dont suffer in silence step on up and ask your doctor about diabetic nerve pain. Tell em cedric sent you. The top of the ticket always has a significant effect. Im going to vote for our republican nominee. I fully intend to support our nominee. This morning, were launching a new electionyear series, the trump effect gop under pressure. Well highlight downballot races where republican incumbents could be in trouble with donald trump at the top of the ticket. And today its missouri. Gop senator roy blunt says hes skipping the convention this summer and has been trying to distance himself from trump for months. Any thoughts as you watch donald trump run for president . You know, i think hes mostly a distraction from trying to find solutions. But now blunt says hell support the presumptive nominee. He even met with trump on capitol hill, and that could be an opening for his democratic challenger, jason candor is missouris secretary of state and a military vet, giving blunt his toughest race in years. This week the Washington Post said that blunt faces a tough posttrump reality. No seat is safe. Joining me now is senator blunts democratic challenger, jason candor. Thanks for being here. Thanks so much for having me. Now, senator blunt met with trump this past week. What should missouri voters think about his support of donald trump . Well, ill tell you what missouri voters do think about it. Theyre pretty frustrated with the fact that their senator has said that he doesnt have time to meet with judge garland, no time to do his job. But he does have time to meet with donald trump. Its yet another example of senator blunt choosing to put his party in front of his country. Now, you know, senator blunts office put out a statement after the trump meeting, and it says senator blunt reminded him that tone and language matter in our efforts to defeat Hillary Clinton. Senator blunt urged donald trump to unite americans. Do missouri voters worry about trumps, quote, tone and language or about his policies . Well, i think everybody across the board has a lot of concerns, naturally, about donald trump. I mean, he is unfit to be president of the United States. And i think that leads us to additional concerns about senator blunt. The fact that senator blunt, again, demonstrates that his constituents really have become lobbyists and his Political Party. And in this case, his Political Party has demanded that he do certain things like endorse donald trump and say that he wants to take the country in a new direction with donald trump. And so i think senator blunt has demonstrated that thats whats important to him, not whats going on at home or doing his job but doing whatever his party and lobbyists tell him what to do. Let me ask you something near and dear to me. Your state senator recently passed a voter i. D. Law voter i. D. Bill, and your office has said that it would disenfranchise 220,000 voters. I mean, do you feel the intent of this bill was to reduce democratic turnout in an Election Year . Well, missouri is a state that has never had a single case reported of voter impersonation fraud, which is the only kind of fraud in that piece of legislation. Not one case. Not one case of voter impersonation fraud. Now, i as secretary of state have done more formal investigations than any other secretary of state in missouri history. But theres never been a reported case of voter impersonation fraud in missouri. This piece of legislation, if it were to be voted in on the ballot, it would actually take effect in a future Election Year. But this is another example of where folks like senator blunt have decided to focus on things other than what is most pressing right now. I mean, theres a reason that, for instance, we have so much momentum in this race. I mean, just in the first three months of 2016, we actually outraised senator blunt. Thousands of people went to jasonkander. Com and made a corroboration. Whereas blunt with all his special interests over decades of investing in him and financing his campaign and lifestyle werent able to compete with that. So whether its donald trump or whether its other issues like this one that are really meant not to do anything like raising the wages of middleclass missouriens, its pretty clear that they dont want to talk about the things that missourians care about. Missouri candidate for senate jason kander, thank you for your time this morning. 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After a Major Development in a Police Shooting case that brought National Attention by a cell phone video. It captured Michael Slager in 2015, then an officer in South Carolina, firing eight times as scott fled from a traffic stop. This week a federal grand jury indicted slager on charges including depriving scott of his civil rights. Slager has already pleaded not guilty to murder charges. But these new charges appear to be the first recent civil rights indictment in a nationally known Police Shooting case. Slagers attorney called the charges extreme and said, quote, it really feels as if officer slager is carrying the burden of many past cases that were handled differently. One question now. Is this a precedent for other cases caught on tape . In new york, eric garner died after being placed in a chokehold by police. Put your hand behind your back. I cant breathe. I cant breathe. I cant breathe. I cant breathe. I cant breathe. I cant breathe. A new york grand jury declined to bring charges against the officer. There are reports of federal grand jury is considering a civil rights indictment, but nbc news has not confirmed that. Would that grand jury and others that may confront similar questions look to what just happened in South Carolina . Joining me now is former federal prosecutor paul butler. Thanks for being here, paul. Great to be here, reverend. So why this civil rights charge against Michael Slager but not in some of these other cases that weve seen recently . You know, we have videotape, which from a prosecutors point of view, is just compelling evidence in this South Carolina case. We literally see the officer shoot mr. Scott eight times in the back and then plant evidence. And, of course, files a false Police Report full of lies. So thats very compelling evidence in this case that we dont have in all of the cases. Now, we do have video in the eric garner case, so im hoping that the Justice Department is going to look at this as just the beginning. You know, the department declines to bring charges 96 of the time in these cases. 96 . For too long africanamericans have looked to the federal government to vindicate civil rights. So this is a promising beginning. We had a video on tamir rice, and there was no indictment. So we see videos because of technology, with the camera phones, with the videos now with your cell phones, really, are more commonplace. But we still this is the first time were seeing it actually leading to a federal indictment in all of the recent cases. Yeah, reverend, as you know, africanamericans have been complaining about abuse by police for decades. Yes. Now, the videos help for people who just didnt believe that the police could act like that because people believe their own eye, so they see it. Now, theres another group of people who believe it just just dont care because they think the police are doing what they need to be doing. So sometimes even when therz individu theres video, its hard to get a conviction. But again, this is a very promising start. Loretta lynch, the attorney general, maybe shes trying to act boldly in her last few months in office because, again, theres a crying need for this kind of intervention from the federal government. Now, i note also that slager is also being charged with misleading investigators for claiming that scott was coming toward him. The video shows scott running away. Which is also now a charge here of his misleading investigators. Honestly, reverend, to me, thats one of the most troubling aspects of this case because, you know, normally the police file a report, and judges tend to believe it. They think that the police are telling the truth. We know that this Police Report was full of lies. And we have seen that in other cases where theres been video thats contradicted what the police say. In chicago, with the Laquan Mcdonald case, and it just makes my heart ache for all of the cases in which there are these allegations, but we dont have video. Yeah. Now, you know, it brings me to raising that this week the fbi director was quoted as saying that videos may have a Chilling Effect on police the New York Times wrote, and im quoting here, james comey said that while he could offer no statistical proof, he believed after speaking with a number of Police Officials that a viral video effect with officers wary of confronting suspects for fear of ending up on a video could well be at the heart of a spike in Violent Crime in some city cities. President obama has pushed back on this in the past. Whats your take . First of all, its weird for the nations chief Law Enforcement officer to be saying that the police are afraid to do their be jos because of a bunch of videos or protesters. Its just silly. You know, theres no evidence of this ferguson effect or viral video effect. Its true that crime is going up in some places. Its going down in other places. And the cops i know, people who i know who become. Cos, they do it to serve and protect, not because theyre afraid of some kind of protesters. You know, the real concern is it makes it sound like the fbi director thinks we need more aggressive policing. Thats the last thing that we need. The president has said we need police to act as guardians, not as warriors. And it just sounds like the fbi director is going for this ar yo warrior mentality. And real quickly the worst thing is this mindless speculation about criminal justice thats brought us to this place now. Where we had the new jim crow, mass incarceration and vast race disparity. We really need evidencebased policing. We dont need this, again, mindless speculation from the fbi director. The president pushed him back once when he went down this path. I hope he pushes him back again. Well, yeah, youre correct in which youre saying the president did push back before. And i might note that most of these videos are not done by protesters. Just citizens that happen to videotape some of the encounters. Paul butler, thank you for your time. Its great to be here. Thanks for having me. Up next, auditing donald trump. His hideandseek on taxes lands him in our gotcha. vo making the most out of every mile. Thats why i got a subaru impreza. Love. Its what makes a subaru, a subaru. Unless you have allergies. Flonase is the first and only nasal spray approved to relieve both itchy, watery eyes and congestion. No other nasal allergy spray can say that. Go ahead, embrace those beautiful moments. Flonase changes everything. And so. 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Do you believe voters have a right to see your tax returns before they make a final decision . I dont think they do, but i do say this. I will really gladly give them. Theyre not going to learn anything, but its under routine audit. When the audit ends, im going to present them. That should be before the election. I hope its before the election. He hopes its before the election . Excuse me if i dont believe him. First of all, the irs says being audited doesnt stop you from releasing your returns. Even president Richard Nixon did it in 1973. And second, trump already promised to release his returns back in 2011 if president obama released his birth certificate. If i run, youll see what a great job because ill do a full disclosure of finances. Including your tax returns . Well look at that. Make im going to do the tax returns when obama does his birth certificate. We have a birth certificate, but do we have trumps tax returns . 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But, of course, Bernie Sanders may have something to say about that. Lets bring back our panel, krystal ball, yameesh alcindor and matt welch. Lets start with the attacks. Why is she so well suited to go after him . She really is kind of the perfect antitrump. While he talks all this populist rhetoric and pretends to be a man of the people, you look at his tax plan and it tells a very different story. She, on the other hand, has real credibility in terms of taking on the big banks. She was enemy number one for the big banks. And on setting up the Consumer FinancialProtection Bureau to look out for ordinary folks. And you just know, even if you dont like Elizabeth Warren, you know she wakes up in the morning and goes to bed at night thinking about how she can fight for middleclass americans. So that really makes her the perfect person to go after him here. Yameesh, i brought up about it has been reported that the clinton people are looking possibly at warren as a running mate. Look at what she said this week about joining the clinton ticket. I love my job. Im here in the United States senate doing exactly what the people of massachusetts sent me here to do. For me, im going to keep doing my job every single day. And im not thinking about another job. Now, help me out here. Did that sound like a yes or a no or neither one . That sounded like im open to taking the job if they offer it to me. And he think that shes showing herself to be someone who is ready to attack donald trump head on. And i think the 16 republicans that he beat out now know that if youre going to defeat trump, the thing that you have to do is go after him and go after him in a way that mirrors kind of how he goes after people. So i think while Elizabeth Warren is saying that she loves her job, part of her job is already attacking the republican nominee, which would be part of her job if she was the Vice President ial nominee, too. Now, matt, you know, there was also a report this week that Vice President biden had mentioned Elizabeth Warren as a possible running mate during his first strategy session. Theres clearly an appetite for someone like war. In t warren in the democratic party. Is that why Bernie Sanders caught on . Yeah, this enters slot was the warren slot. If she runs against hillary, i think she wins, right . Absolutely. She was what everyone wanted. They got bernie instead. And bernie blew up. It was a very big thing and caught fire. So yes, but im not sure as a running mate it makes a lot of sense because you think about it, hillarys been pulled to the left particularly on economics by bernie. Usually at this stage in the race, shes going to be wanting to tack to the center. Granted, donald trump has blown up the right left categories and will be going against hillary from the left on a number of issues, actually. But still, are you really want to talking about that, krystal, you know, democratic senator dianne feinstein, she wants Bernie Sanders to drop out, saying, quote, its actually harmful because she cant make that generalelection pivot the way she should. Trump has made that pivot. Is he is his continued presence, im talking about Bernie Sanders now, is his continued presence in this race helping to shape the partys message, or is it just hurting the party . Well, heres my problem with that quote. The premise of that quote is that Hillary Clinton needs to change somehow now for the general election. Well, what do we mean exactly by that . Has she not been straight with us about what shes going to do and what shes going to prioritize for the general election . So that whole premise bothers me. There are millions of people who have backed Bernie Sanders. He has brought a lot of energy into this race. And i think thats only a good thing for the democratic party. A democratic party, by the way, that has really relied on young people to win its past victories. So i dont think its a bad thing for him to stay in it. And i want to see what kind of changes he and his supporters make for the party itself. The reality is he has gotten millions of peoples support, no problem no question, rather, about that. But shes got 3 million more votes in these democratic primaries. She does have more votes than him, and i think the thing thats interesting, i wrote think story this week where i was able to get my hands on this draft proposal put together by a group of anonymous Bernie Sanders supporters and volunteers. Theyre also calling for him to drop out after california. Theyre saying lets go after donald trump. Theyre saying lets go after donald trump and theyre also saying we dont we create an independent organization where we can now go after donald trump. Thats the first goal. And then after that we wont be part of the democratic party. We can then go on and push progressive policies. So even on the people who support Bernie Sanders are saying, look, the writings on the wall. Theyre going their own way. And lets not waste this energy. A lot of people look at what happened after obamas election in 2008 and say we had all this energy, but then it went away because we never really thought very hard on how to do that, and obama for america which became organizing for america, a lot of people felt like that just didnt harness the energy. So there are a lot of progressives worried about that. Matt, im hearing a lot of the same, and i read her article, and im hearing a lot of the same around, and people are going even as far back as independent runs like ralph nader that we dont want to be responsible to elect a donald trump. Sure. And you think about it, donald trump is using sanders right now. He is saying that, you know, sanders, a corrupt hillary is going after the superdelegates. You know, you have a lot of sympathy for sanders. Hes right about trade, you know, unlike Hillary Clinton. For the next two months, thats what that game is going to be. Hes going to be using Bernie Sanders quotes against hillary. And hes going to be hoping, i think, probably more hope than actuality that there can be just like theres a never trump movement, a little Never Hillary Movement among disaffected sanders supporters. The longer sanders stays in, the more wounded the feelings are going to be of the hardcore bernie people. I think they will turn to hillary at the end. I have to hold it right there. Thanks and enjoy the rest of your weekend. Thanks, rev. Still to come, the Obama Administration makes a major stand for equality all across the country. Why do so many businesses rely on the Us Postal Service . Because when they ship with us, their business becomes our business. Thats why we make more ecommerce deliveries to homes than anyone else in the country. 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On friday the Obama Administration sent a letter directing Public Schools to give transgender students access to restrooms they identify with. Or face possible loss of funding. Its a policy that many schools across the country already follow. But, of course, some on the right are outraged. He says hes going to withhold funding if schools do not follow the policy. Well, in texas, he can keep his 30 pieces of silver. We will not yield to blackmail from the president of the United States. But the administration is taking a stand. The Justice Department is suing North Carolina over a law that bans transgender people from the bathroom of their choice. With a policy statement from attorney general Loretta Lynch. Let me also speak directly to the Transgender Community itself. No matter how isolated, no matter how afraid and no matter how alone you may feel today, know this. At the department of justice and indeed the entire Obama Administration want you to know that we see you. We stand with you. And we will do everything we can to protect you going forward. And please know that history is on your side. Joining me now, jonathan capehart, Washington Post opinion writer and msnbc political analyst. Hes been covering the story for the post. Thanks for being here, jonathan. Thanks a lot, rev. Jonathan, is this letter a signal from the white house that theyre not shying away from a fight . Oh, absolutely. And we should have known something when attorney general Loretta Lynch stepped out there a couple of days ago and what the Justice Department is doing with North Carolina and its socalled bathroom bill. And when the attorney general looked right into the camera and said she wanted to speak specifically to Transgender Americans and telling them basically that the Justice Department and the federal government has their back in all of this, that the directive that was sent out on friday is sort of the next step. The Obama Administration is taking fights for equality and antidiscrimination extremely seriously in the closing months of the administration. Now, will the attorney generals words help sway the federal judges who will soon be dealing with these matters . Well, it depends on where those federal judges sit. We already know that in a virginia case, the federal judge sided with the transgender students. But, you know, weve got federal judges on the bench who were appointed by president s reagan and h. W. Bush and w. Bush. So as these cases make their way lawsuits make their way through the system and make their way to federal courts, appeals courts and then probably ultimately to the Supreme Court, this is it will be sort of will sort of mirror the conversation on Marriage Equality where some courts will see the light, if you will, and other courts wont. And it will be up to the Supreme Court interpreting the constitution and interpreting the law to determine whether equality stands. Now, many in the Civil Rights Community including me came out strongly seeing this as a civil rights issue. The attorney general spoke explicitly about how the law relates to civil rights. Watch this. Statesanctioned discrimination Never Looks Good and they ever works in hindsight. It was not so very long ago that states including North Carolina had other signs above restrooms, water fountains and on public accommodations keeping people out based on a distinction without a difference. Now, how important is it that the attorney general frames this in a larger context . Because it makes people understand that forget about the differences in the discrimination and the differences in the equality. The ultimate thing that the people who are harmed by these laws and these bills, these legislation is discrimination. And so for the attorney general, the first africanamerican woman attorney general to link Transgender Equality fight with the fight against jim crow, the fight against segregation makes it clear that there is a long line here between what happened with africanamericans in the 1950s and the 1960s and still ongoing and whats happening now in terms of the currentday conversation about transgender rights. Let me ask you quickly im out of time, but what about those that feel that the governor of North Carolina and others are just playing politics to drive out their votes up for reelection. Because in many areas this is unenforceable like at airports. Whos going to inspect people to see if theyre transgender or not . A lot of this seems like a ruse to manufacture some of us. No. Just to highlight that, rev, this law thats in North Carolina was proposed, debated, passed and signed into law in less than 24 hours. Jonathan capehart, thank you for your time this morning. Thanks, rev. 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