Appears to be unconscious, and moments later, rice drags her body out of the elevator. This afternoon, the ravens tweeted they terminated ray rices contract. Moments later, a spokesman for the nfl tweeted, Roger Goodell has announced that based on new Video Evidence that became available today, he has indefinitely suspended ray rice. Back in july, this video was released from a camera outside of the elevator. Janay palmer did not press charges. And rice was given just a twoday or twogame suspension from the nfl. But today, the emergence of this new video is setting off a fire storm of controversy and questions. What should the policy be . And what did the nfl know about this video . Today, before suspending rice indefinitely, the nfl released a statement saying, quote, that video was not made available to us, and no one in our office has seen it until today. But that statement directly contradicts what some Sports Reporters wrote this summer. So all kinds of questions tonight. And this nfl Story Highlights a bigger issue that we have all over the country. Joining me now, our msnbc goady taylor and former head coach of the new york giants, jim fossil. Thanks to all of you for being here. Thanks. Thank you. Coach, let me go to you first. Whats your reaction to the suspension . And should the nfl, what should they have done months ago . Should they have done this months ago . Reverend, this is all coming out. I dont know anything about who saw it, when they saw it. Its a sad day. Heres a young man that had a clean record, hadnt been arrested, as far as i know. Hadnt been arrested. Had no drug problems, had nothing. But it is sad to see what went on in that elevator. Im sure alcohol was part of it. But it is sickening to see that, and i think there has to be things done. Now, the only good news coming out of this whole thing, reverend, is that any athlete or actor or anybody else thats under the spotlight, if theyre stupid enough to do this again, i think it will have an impact on males thinking they can attack the female and not suffer serious consequences. But whats disturbing to me is the nfl said they didnt see the video before today, but people who covered sports reported a much different story back in july. Veteran Sports Illustrated reporter wrote, there is one other thing i did not write or refer to, and that is the other videotape the nfl and some ravens officials have seen from the Security Camera inside the elevator at the time of the physical altercation between rice and his fiance. And listen to what espns Chris Martinson said on july 25th. Listen to this. We saw the tmz video of what happened outside, when he was dragging her out unconscious, and inside the elevator, im told for those who have seen the video, it wasnt pretty. In fact, she attacks him, we dont know the reason why, and she strikes her, strikes her hard, and her head, according to the sources ive spoken with, struck the rail inside the voord and she was unconscious. Now, that is quite detailed and exactly what we see on this new tape. So the question is, is the nfl lying now . It is really hard to imagine that when this happened, and they were doing a thorough investigation, that they wouldnt have seen this video, that is the elevator video, by the way, and that months later, tmz of all places, releases this video. I dont know whether or not they have seen the video. What i will say it and i saw it this morning, its sickening to watch what happened inside the elevator. But whether or not they saw that part of the video, what they did see was her being dragged out and being completely knocked out. But they described what happened in the elevator. Somebody had to see it. How did these reporters describe exactly what was on the tape if someone hadnt seen it and told them . I think what youre seeing is probably a coverup here. Right . Because if they had seen it, obviously they made the decision not to suspend him, or only for two weeks at that period of time. My point is, it doesnt matter whether they saw the full video or not. The video is horrible. No doubt about it. They should have made the decision months ago. No one should be praising the nfl or the team, by the way, who also have the ability to cut him off the team months ago, for the decision made today. That should have been done far longer than right now. But, coach, we dont know if the nfl hierarchy saw it or not. It could have been sources. But the sources had to see the video. They described what was on the video. And the real overriding question is that if the nfl, for whatever reasons, didnt see this video, then how did they make a ruling, if they didnt see everything . I think the nfl, a lot of the punishment that i think people dont understand, they take the history of the player. Players dont get suspended for the year on a first offense of hgh. They dont do that. They suspend them for a while. And on a second offense and a third offense, it gets worse. Now, i know Roger Goodell personally. I dont know ray rice. The only thing in my heart of hearts i can say is Roger Goodell is a standup guy. He came out and said he made a mistake. Lot of people wont do that. He said that. Now, i got to believe and i could be wrong, but i got to believe that they hadnt seen it when he suspended him for two games. But should they have seen it . I just know roger is a standup guy, and hes a discipline airian. But whether they saw it or not, we dont know. But should they have insisted on seeing it . Obviously they had to know there wasnt was inside the elevator video. Should they have seen it before they made a ruling . When you look at the fact look at some of the other players who have been suspended from the nfl this year. Just this year now. Why they were suspended and how long they were told to sit out. Brandon meriweather of the washington redskins, he was charged with a helmet to helmet hit in a game against ironically, the ravens. He was suspended two games, the same as we saw the suspension here on rice. Matt prater, of the denver broncos, charged with violating the leagues Substance Abuse policy with alcohol. He was suspended four games, twice as much as rice. Josh gordon, of the cleveland browns, he failed a marijuana test. He was suspended for a whole year. [ all speak at once ] let me go to goldie, coach. Ill come back to you. Im sorry, im sorry. Ive always said that if her name was marijuana, he would have gotten a much harsher sentence the first time around. But let me clear up a few things. There are several infractions that a player can make that are covered under the rules of the Players Association that they bargained with the nfl. There are some of these things, like Domestic Violence that fall into the discretion of Roger Goodell, of the commissioner. So he decides how long that sentence is going to be. He laid out some brand new criteria for us where none seem to have existed before. I would assert that some criteria should have always existed, given the number of reports and under reports of Domestic Violence that happen across the nfl and all professional sports. So ill lay that to the side. The other part of this is, they did not, at the time of the release of this, give a accurate account of what happened in that elevator. The young woman didnt attack him, she deflected his first punch and then he punched her again until she was knocked out. Thats what were seeing on this tape. That amounts to aggravated assault. So you got to ask yourself, why didnt a d. A. Prosecute him for that . Why is he eligible for a Diversionary Program . And at the same time, if the nfl seemed to have known enough about this tape, they had to have seen it. If they saw it, why was he only given a twoday suspension . I personally dont believe that no one from the nfl saw it. Too many characterizations were coming out contemporaneously when all of this went down. We heard it from toptier reporters, straight from their mouths, how it was being characterized by nfl spokesman and people from the ravens. Coach, let me go back to you. Goodell did say a week ago he got it wrong. But look at this. Ray mcdonald of the San Francisco 49ers was arrested on Domestic Violence charges on august 31st of this year. The nfl hasnt taken any action against him, waiting to let it play out. He even played yesterday. How do we feel about that, coach . Well, as a coach, longtime coach, and youre dealing with young men, okay, theyre not all going to be correct. I go back to the duke la crosse situation where a girl accused players on a la crosse team of rape. He kicked them all out of school. He fired the coach. He got rid of everybody. Then the girl came back and said, no, i didnt get raped. I made the story up. So as a coach, i always believe in letting the authorities, the authorities that are investigating it and they can get to the truth, let them do their job, and then ill react to it. Unless its something very, very, just a murder or something. The authorities didnt do their job. [ all speak at once ] let the authorities do their job and then ill take action. Duke la crosse, the authorities did take action. There was action. But here you have a guy that was arrested. You have now a whole list of what you do now on Domestic Violence. Nothings happening to this guy. No, and the crazy thing here, when you look at the nfl, up until right now, theres no real clear policy for dealing with domestic abuse. Up until now. Now they say, we should look at doing something about that, which i find a little bit crazy. This is not the first time this has happened. Its not the last time its going to happen. So to your point, how can you look at all the situations that have happened and not treat them fairly . Its really hard to look at this video and look at how the nfl has handled this, and how the team has handled this. It looks really bad on all of them. The nfl does have a new policy. Roger goodell wrote team owners a little over a week ago, saying that he got the suspension wrong. Now for the first offense, six games suspension. Second offense, banishment from the nfl for at least a year. And this policy applies to all personnel, not just the players. But i think my real concern is the gravity of Domestic Violence should not be cheapened, goldie. This is very serious and i think they should have seriously looked at everything before they made a ruling here, goldie. We are talking about peoples lives. To delay can cost a life. Jof an belcher killed Cassie Perkins last year, shot her seven times. So weve got to be very careful when we say we need to wait until the authorities do their jobs when we ourselves have a job to do. They had access to the tape. If they didnt take advantage of that, i think thats malfeasance. And i think youve got to remember, aside from all of that, it is a place of business. Kids are watching and look at these as role models. Domestic violence is a seriously issue. Goldie taylor, abbey huntsman, and coach jim fossil, thank you for your time tonight. Thank you. And be sure to watch abbey on the cycle weekdays at 3 00 a. M. Eastern right here on msnbc. Still ahead, much more on the tmz sports video. Well talk to steven a. Smith about the leagues response and what pro football needs to be doing going forward. Also, new witnesses come forth in the Michael Brown shooting. Well tell you what theyre saying and why it could have a huge impact on the grand jury. And new u. S. Air strikes pounding isis terrorists in iraq. President obama will soon address the nation about the isis threat. But you wont believe who republicans are turning to for advice. Well review this blast from the past next. Its monday. A brand new start. Your chance to rise and shine. With centurylink as your trusted technology partner, you can do just that. With our visionary cloud infrastructure, Global Broadband network and Custom Communications solutions, your business is more reliable secure agile. And with responsive, dedicated support, we help you shine every day of the week. Centurylink our social Media Community is on fire about the ray rice news today. As we mentioned, this tmz sports video emerged this morning, and the nfl suspended rice indefinitely. We want to know what you think. Our question tonight, should ray rice be banned from the nfl for life . Tweet us at politicsnation. Coming up well have your answers and get reaction from espns steven a. Smith. 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As america debates how to handle the terrorist group isis, a new poll today Shows Growing support for the president s plan of action. 76 favor Additional Air strikes. 62 support military aid to forces fighting isis. But at the same time, 61 oppose putting u. S. Boots on the ground. Thats exactly what the president outlined in his interview with chuck todd on meet the press on nbc. This is not going to be an announcement about u. S. Ground troops. We are going to be, as part of an international coalition, carrying out air strikes in support of work on the ground by iraqi troops, kurdish troops. What i want people to understand, though, over the course of months, we are going to be able to not just blunt the momentum of isil, we are going to systematically degrade their capabilities. Were going to shrink the territory that they control, and ultimately, were going to defeat them. Already the plan to defeat isis is in motion. On sunday the u. S. Broadens military campaign, conducting air strikes to protect the haditha dam. In western iraq, isis has been trying to seize the dam, which supplies power to baghdad. 148 air strikes have been launched against isis over the last month. Tomorrow, the president will meet with key congressional leaders and on wednesday hell lay out his plans for isis in a speech to the nation. Joining me now, msnbcs military analyst colonel jacobs and salon. Com joann walsh. Thank you for being here. Were hearing reports that this air campaign against isis could last years. Is that kind of sustained action needed to defeat them . Well, the number i heard was three years, but that grossly underestimates how long its probably going to take. Really . Im reminded of general mccrystals observation some time ago when he said, its going to take a decade in iraq. And i think thats probably a pretty good estimate so you think it could take a decade . Sure. Dont forget. Its not just our dumping precision guided munitions all over the bad guys. Whats really important is the seizure and holding of terrain on the ground. And thats going to take a coalition of all of the forces inside iraq, including a lot of people who dont like each other very much and have not worked together, which is why were going to have to work very hard to make sure they all work in concert. But air strikes is just for support. The real work, the heavy lifting must be done by the iraqis on the ground and thats going to take ten years. You know, joan, there seems to be a lot of support for air strikes, and yet theres a lot of support saying no boots on the ground. Heres what the president said about the idea of putting boots on the ground in iraq and syria. You also cannot over the longterm or even the medium term, deal with this problem by having the United States serially occupy various countries all around the middle east. We dont have the resources. It puts enormous strains on our military, and at some point, we leave and then things blow up again. Is this a hard lesson that we learn a hardearned lesson, i should say, after a decade in iraq . Yeah, i think it is. Colonel jacobs is right. The problem in iraq is that there arent groups cooperating, not civil institutions, there isnt that history and its hard from the outside to create it. We cant occupy a country semi permane permanently. When you look at syria, one thing the president said that i dont know theres evidence for, he said we are currently working to shore up moderate rebels inside syria and i dont know how you identify them. And i dont know how you support them. Thats one of the things they think people worry about. Its kind of an oxymoron. Rebels are not moderate. We said the same thing about iran. What we really need to do is encourage the moderate revolutionaries. Well, moderates are not revolutionary. The same thing is true inside iraq. Theres got to be some leadership inside the country that can galvanize the disparate forces otherwise, it doesnt work is your point. I dont think its going to work. Joan, today were hearing calls from centers for boots on the ground. Senator John Isaacson said we need to put together a wideranging coalition and have our special forces support it. And senator Lindsay Graham said, what youd want to do is to interject special forces into the killtheleadertype operations. Are we about to see a big push from the right for troops on the ground in iraq and syria . I think theyd like to see that. I think this idea of special forces, i dont want to be naive. Special forces may be operating there. They often dont telegraph what theyre doing. So for the president to say, we have special forces in there and theyre going to take out the leaders, i dont see the utility in that. And special forces can lead on a slippery slope to more forces and conventional forces. So it seems very irresponsible. Theyre always asking him to do more. Hes never doing enough. The New York Times described the threephase plan from the president. First air campaign to roll back isis gains in iraq. Then training and equipping the iraqi military, the kurdish fighters and sunni tribes. And the final phase is destroying isis inside of syria. What are the Biggest Challenges ahead, colonel . The last one. I mean, that really is a big challenge, because its a very tough political decision for the president to make. Dont forget, this country talked for a long time about how asad must go. Very bad guy. Need to get rid of him. And all of a sudden the only way youre going to be able to get rid of isis inside syria is to wind up being an ally of assad or whoever replaces him. By the way, not only that, allies of iran as well. I mean, can you do thyou can do ground and in the air, but doing it politically in the United States, thats a tough road to hoe. Dont look now, but the house members are meeting tomorrow with dick cheney. I mean, were already hearing rhetoric from some of the right that sounds like an echo of the bushcheney era on foreign policy. What are we going to hear now . Listen to this. Isis says they want to go back and reject modernity, well, i think we should help them. We ought to bomb them back to the stone age. After being counselled by dick cheney tomorrow, what are we going to hear . You can make sound bites of neanderthal right wingers saying we should bomb every imaginable Government Back to the stone age. Colonel jacobs, its incredibly irresponsible and dick cheney is the last person anybody should be listening to on iraq or syria. Im going to have to leave it there. Thank you for your time tonight. Welcome. Coming up, Key Developments in the Michael Brown investigation. Two new witnesses come forward. What did they see . And how might it affect the grand jury . Thats next. 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One of them talked to a local tv station last month. I started hearing pop and when i looked over, i see somebody staggering and running. When he finally caught himself, he threw his hands up and started screaming, okay okay okay okay okay. The one just started shooting. He didnt say get on the ground. He didnt say anything. The first his gun was down, and then walked until he got eight to ten feet away from him and then shot at him six, seven shots. I heard it seemed like seven. Then he put his gun down. Thats when michael stumbled forward id say about 25 fight or so and then fell right on his face. This matches up from other accounts weve heard from other witnesses. But unlike them, these two workers are outsiders. They did not know either brown or wilson. And have no ties to ferguson. Tonight, many questions remain as we wait for the grand jury. The investigation continues. Joining me now, liz brown attorney and columnist for the st. Louis american. And former u. S. Attorney kendall coffee. Thank you for being here, first of all. Thanks, reverend. Liz, how important are these witness accounts to this case . I think these accounts are very important, but it is important to underscore, reverend, the fact that these witnesses have been interviewed by the police department, the county police department, and the fbi. They have not been interviewed by the grand jury. And there is no guarantee that they ever will be heard by the grand jury do you think they will be . I doubt it. Because these are narratives that move in the direction of indictment. And everything that is being done so far by this prosecutor has been deferential to the potential defendant, and signaling to this grand jury, with whom he has a long relationship with, over a matter of weeks, that we want you not to indict. One of the things that also came out today was the fact that this grand jury will be deciding what charges are going to be brought. Thats extraordinary to just hand over to the grand jury. You decide whether its firstdegree, you decide whether its seconddegree, you decide whether its manslaughter. The prosecutor and his office are agreeing, this is what we want, we want an indictment, and we want these charges brought. Thats deferential and other dfrts dont get that deference in a grand jury hearing. Youve been a u. S. Attorney, youve prosecuted cases. Should the grand jury hear this . Should they hear from these two witnesses and is it troubling that its open ended that hes not arguing for specific charges . Well, of course he should. I agree with almost every lizz has said. I think he will put one or both of them forward because a lot of this grand jury process is about cover. But when youre a prosecutor, you carefully manage the grand jury process. You make the decisions ultimately. You dont throw open any kind of evidence that comes through the door to the grand jury. And you certainly dont throw it open in terms of the ultimate charging decision. So while this might be a process that seemed like its going to get more cover for a prosecutor, it clearly creates less chance of a prosecution. Now, lizz, weve heard similar accounts to what these two witnesses that have just surfaced, from other witnesses. Listen to this. I witnessed the police chase after the guy. He was unarmed. He ran for his life. They shot him, and he fell. The kid body jerked as if he was hit. And after his body jerked, he turned around, puts his hands up and the cop just continues to walk up on him and shoot him until he goes all the way down. How valuable are these witnesses to this case . Theyre extraordinarily valuable. This grand jury does not need to see all of the evidence that is being brought before them in order to make a probable cause determination about whether or not a trial should be had on this issue. Every witness seems to say the same thing, that Michael Brown was shot running away. Thats where it ends. Thats where it ends. Kendall, the common denominator seems to be every witness was saying, his hands were up. After Michael Brown stopped and turned around, quote, that officer wilson began backing up as he fired at Michael Brown. And that after the third shot browns hands started going down and he moved about 25 feet toward wilson, who kept backing away and firing. The workers also said he could not tell if browns motion toward wilson was a stumble to the ground or, okay, im going to get you, youre already shooting. What does this mean for officer wilsons claim that he shot in selfdefense, kendall . Well, i think these witnesses are incredibly important, because they are neutral. They are objective. Theyre just guys who happened to be there at this tragic moment. And theyll be very, very believable. One of the things id be fascinated to see is what is the officer wilson saying about whether the hands were up . Because if he denied that in the statements hes given, and im not saying hell go in front of the grand jury, but hes given some statements to the police authorities, and if hes insisting there was a bull rush, or a bull charge, when witnesses like the ones were hearing about today said absolutely not, and there seems to be little support of that, all of a sudden you have a selfdefense account that may have some demonstrable faulties and that becomes some of the most important evidence of guilt if you are falsely claiming certain facts happened to try to prove your innocence. But the witnesses, these two are saying that the Movement Toward wilson was after he was already shot. One says he was shot, that shots rung out three or four times before he started moving forward. Absolutely. And that makes it stronger. But theres some inconsistency among all the different eyewitnesses as to the movement. All of them seem to be saying that he was not charging the officer. And if thats how the evidence lines up, i think theres going to be a very critical contradiction with what the officer is saying. And again, im confident. We dont know for a fact what the officer was saying when he gave his account, but i serial doubt he said he was putting all these bullets into a man who had his hands raised and surrendered. Thats assuming these witnesses ever make it to the grand jury. We dont we dont know that they will. Whats the reaction in the community right now . The action in the community is the same as its always been. There has not been an indictment, theres deferential treatment given to this defendant Darren Wilson, and that theres an effort to make certain that an indictment will not ensue. So the community is very much watching this because they are concerned and they also believe that theres not going to be an indictment issued in this case. There hasnt even been an arrest. You dont need an indictment for an arrest. There you go. Theres supposed to be a meeting tomorrow night of the city council. Lizz brown, kendall coffee, thank you for your time tonight. Thank you. Still ahead, new questions about the tmz sports video and the nfls handling of the ray rice scandal. Should they have acted sooner, and whats the next step . Well talk to steven a. Smith. Also, just delayed, but not denied for the central park five. A big ruling today in their quest for justice. Stay with us. Setting up the perfect wedding day begins with arthritis pain and two pills. Afternoon arrives and feeling good, but her knee pain returns. Thats two more pills. The evenings event brings laughter, joy, and more pain. When jamie says. Whats that like six pills today . Yeah. 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You can see Baltimore Ravens running back ray rice and is then fiance janay palmer, go into an elevator in an Atlantic City casino. You can see they have an altercation and he then punches her in the face. He knocks her out. Shes down on the ground, and appears to be unconscious. Moments later, rice drags her body out of the elevator. Joining me now, sports journalist and espn first take host stephen a. Smith. Thank you for being here tonight. Good to be here, reverend. How you doing . Im good. You made some controversial comments when the story first broke that got you suspended. But today you came out strong and said that ray rice should leave the nfl voluntarily. Whats your reaction to the ravens and nfl suspend saing hi now . First of all, its entirely appropriate. Even back then, ive always said a man has no business putting his hands on a woman. Ive never deviated from that. Let me say this. When you consider the video, if a picture is worth a thousand words, then a video is worth about a hundred million. Because to see that video, to see this individual strike his then fiance in that fashion, it doesnt surprise me at all that they didnt even get halfway through before the ravens waived him, cut him, and the nfl suspended him. It was definitely an appropriate decision, it was something that was long overdue, because a lot of people find it difficult to believe that the nba im sorry. The nfl and the Baltimore Ravens did not have access to this video beforehand. They say they did not see that until this morning. Do you think they didnt see it . And if they didnt see it, should they have waited . I think they should have waited. Its appropriate for me to say they have seen it when theyre denying they havent seen it. What i will say, people out there who are suspicious and say, excuse me, this is a multibilliondollar establishment, you have former and present law officials who work under your umbrella, you b bigger than the nfl. Were talking about the gravity of what Domestic Violence means in our society. First of all, youve always spoken against Domestic Violence. Thats a part of your history, my history. Ive been in this business 22 years to be exact and obviously ive always been a staunch advocate against Domestic Violence. Theres no excuse for a man to put his hands on a woman. Youve got to walk away now more so than ever before. The spotlight is on you and appropriately so. Its clearly something that should have attention brought to it. A lot of women are explaining about the plight of Domestic Violence for quite some time. And too many individual males have been getting away with it. I think that day is coming to an end. And i think this is a step in the right direction, not just for the National Football league, but professional sports altogether and society as a whole. We asked our social Media Community if ray rice should be banned from the nfl for life. Heres some of the responses we got. Ray rice belongs in jail, forget banning him. I think ray rice should be suspended six games only, because terminating him takes money and livelihood from kids and wife. Michael says rice should not be suspended for life, but a year with no play or pay will send a powerful message. I tend to lean towards a yearlong suspension is appropriate and the reason i say that as opposed to banning him for life. There are people, whether its vehicle manslaughter, stallworth was driving behind the wheel and ended up killing an individual, leonard little, that name kapels to mind, somebody died because of their actions. You have to take that into consideration. In the case of michael vick, he resurrected his life and career, he deserved to be applauded for that, but he did maim and kill and electricute dogs and served his time. He was able to come back. Were receptive toward him and applaud the man hes become, his efforts with the humane society. So people can resurrect themselves and make amends. I dont think ray rice should be perceived as a finish product, but today is a very bad day. Being cut by the Baltimore Ravens and suspended indefinitely by Roger Goodell definitely ensures that he will not play nfl football for the 2014 season. And i dont think theres a soul alive who would argue with that kind of ruling. But to say he should never play football again, thats a different story altogether. Stephen a. Smith, really great having you here. Thanks for your time tonight. Thank you. Well be right back. Please, please, please, please, please. [ male announcer ] the wish we wish above all. Is health. 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It stemmed from that one night over two decades ago when the five teens were accused and quickly arrested at the scene of the crime. They said they did nothing wrong. Under relentless police interrogation, the teenagers confessed to the crime but almost immediately recanted. The young men were convicted and all spent years in prison, but they didnt do the crime. I spoke with them in december of 2012 about the interrogations. They were telling, you know, everybodys families that all you got to do is say this and well let your sons go home. You know. This amount of trickery they were using was so devious that it caused even our parents at the point of saying, you know what, maybe if we just go along with it, well be able to get out of here. 25 years ago, america was different. New york city was different. But now we see theres beginning to see some change. I was among those that stood up for these boys. I watched one do 13 years and come out and work for us for three years. Im glad to see them get compensated. But no one can give you 13 years back. No one can give them the time back. We must continue to do better. Thanks for watching. Im al sharpton, hardball starts right now. Devastating. Lets play hardball. Good evening, im Chris Matthews in washington. Here in an elevator, we see a man beating a woman to unconsciousness. We see him drag her limp body across the elevator floor. For this he was fired today from his job. Fired not because of the beating he gave this woman, but because you and i just got to s
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