Means for the former movie mogul next. And with that, we say good morning, saturday, february 22nd. Im corey kaufman, alongside can d kendis gibson. Good morning. Reporter good morning, we are seven hours from caucus sites opening up across this state. The energy here is palpable. It is top of mind for nevadans right now. 75,000 people have cast their ballots. Is that going to be an indication of whats to come or are we maybe going to see the opposite because so many people have caucused. There are 36 pledged delegates up for grabs in a tight and still crowded democratic field. Last night, i attended an Elizabeth Warren rally in las vegas. She came out swinging in our debate this week with Michael Bloomberg. Well hear from voters both who have committed to her already and who are still undecided about what they are looking for in a candidate. We are also going to talk to a Senior Adviser to the state Democratic Party about what they are doing to ensure we dont see more caucus chaos like what we saw in iowa. We have a lot to go over this morning. Im happy to be here with you both. Seven hours still to go before they get to the votings. Our thanks to lindsay. Well check back with you. The brand new reporting about russian interference in the 2020 election. This time, senator Bernie Sanders confirming officials telling his Campaign Russia is actively trying to help him win. The New York Times reports that u. S. Intelligence officials gave a warning to house lawmakers that russia is meddling to once again help President Trump get elected. Nbc White House Correspondent hans nichols joins us now. How are both camps reacting to this, President Trump and senator sanders . Differently. From the president he had a rally out west yesterday and he seemed to be down playing these reports and from Bernie Sanders when he was confronted with them, he confirmed that his campaign had been contacted by officials telling him that russia is trying to help tip the scales on his behalf, and then he had a strong and stark warning for russia to back it off. So listen to their two different approaches and then well talk on the back end. Its disinformation. Thats the only thing theyre good at. Theyre not good at anything else. Do nothing democrats. That putin wants to make sure i get elected. Listen to this, so doesnt he want to see who the democrat is going to be . Wouldnt he rather have, lets say, bernie . Wouldnt he rather have bernie . The Intelligence Community has been clear. Whether trump recognizes it or not or acknowledges it or not, they did interfere in twi2016, Intelligence Community tells us they are interfering in this campaign right now in 2020, and what i say to mr. Putin, if elected president , trust me, you are not going to be interfering in american elections. Now, according to the Washington Post, the president had been briefed at least on some of the information about Bernie Sanders. When the president was speaking there he hadnt seen the report. The report hadnt come out from the Washington Post that Bernie Sanders campaign was being helped by russia and that was the intelligence there. So the president might not have been dealing with all the information when he had that. This is going to be a challenge for his new acting director of National Security, Richard Grenell. The president dismissed Joseph Maguire. He had been interim and the acting at dni. He dismissed him in part because the president was angry about what he heard in the briefing to house lawmakers on what russia was doing in 2020. This isnt going back. This isnt 2016, this is looking forward. This is a challenge for Richard Grenell. He is the ambassador to germany, and he is a political type, and there is concern from House Speaker nancy pelosi and others that youre putting someone with that much political experience not necessarily all the intelligence experience in that position. So a real challenge for mr. Grenell. Most note worthy, grenell is a loyalist to the president , thats perhaps why he got to that positionme that position. Hans nichols thank you. Susan del percio, msnbc political analyst, and republican strategist. And hayes brown, good morning to both of you. Good morning. Susan i want to start with you on all of this. What do you make of the two reactions. I wasnt surprised by either one. The president is one to lie, as we know. I think theyre up to 16,000 lies or 15,000 lies recorded by Fact Checkers at the Washington Post, and at his rallies, the president spews off whatever is off the top of his mind. Bernie sanders treated the information as classified which he was supposed to. What was disappointing is the flippant remark he made at the end of the press conference, which was basically why dont you think it came out now, and he made a comment about the Washington Post and having it be a day before the nevada caucus as if it was a politically motivated thing. Thats very unfortunate. Its unfortunate for our country. We need to have true belief in our elections and that its secure and the point about the incoming dni, rick grenell, is very interesting because he has no background whatsoever in intelligence or management. So thats a disaster. Who was bernie alluding to might have planted this . Well, it wasnt so much. That was what was so disturbing. I dont think he was implying that the president s team did it. I think he was implying that the media may be out for him because he has been i mean, people criticize him, and he doesnt like it. Hes very similar to the president in that way, frankly. Hes angry, and he yells back and wants to say, you know, this is false information. We have seen leaks coming from these highly classified briefings and somehow they keep getting out to media, to the chagrin of the Sanders Campaign or at least what their reaction is to it, their official reaction. Hayes, im wondering if you find the timing suspect. We mentioned the fact that these are classified bits of information. Maybe he couldnt say much but he has been holding on to it for a month now. Is there anything he could have done. He kind of did a little bit in the debate, teased out that maybe some of these people, the bernie bros that everyone has been attacking lately for their attacks against various officials including the Culinary Union in nevada, maybe they are russian bots trying to stir up chaos, and when he said that at the time, a lot of people were extremely skeptical because the phenomenon of Bernie Sanders supporters going after people online has been documented for three, four years now. This report shows that, well, he kind of was hinting at that a little bit during the interview on the tarmac, Bernie Sanders was asked when did you first learn about this, about a month ago. He had been holding on to that as susan pointed out, it was likely a classified situation where he received a briefing and was told dont put this in the public. Once it was in the Washington Post report, he confirmed it. He has known about this for a minute now. I think this was probably the best way it could be handled. Im sure there will be a lot of monday morning quarterbacking on this one though. And one thing to play up on that. There is one other thing he did which was very important and so unlike the president. He did immediately come out and say russia do not meddle in our elections. I will hold you accountable. This is unacceptable. He didnt deny it, didnt pretend it didnt exist, and he didnt keep it low key. He did exactly what every president , anyone whos running for president or the president should do. What do you think is the motivation, particularly with ber Bernie Sanders and the russians there. The russians meddle in our elections for a host of reasons. One could be they see, theyre reading trumps tea leaves, he wants to run against Bernie Sanders. Maybe thats the best way to keep trump in office. The other thing thats way more important is they like to create uncertainty and have the American Public not trust one of our basic most important pillars of our democracy. In 2016, the Sanders Campaign was one of the camps russia was told, dont attack the Sanders Campaign. Leave him and trump alone, then we support, according to the mueller teams investigation. The fact is they do justme to s chaos. They want everyone to be who are bernie supporters is all of this fake. Its so easy to then attack the Bernie Sanders campaign if he does end up becoming the nominee, and pin trump against this socialist agenda. It is, but its also important that at the end of the election, the russians can be successful if people dont feel that the elections were secure and the integrity of our american elections are there. Then they can go back to there people and say look, even the americans dont have fair and free elections, why do you want that. People are troubled when the president jokes. Its dangerous. He is truly dangerous to protecting our democracy. Interesting times we live in. Thank you so much for being here. As we mentioned, it is officially now caucus day in nevada, with more than 70,000 votes already cast during the early Voting Period this week. Officials there are now working to make sure this process runs smoothly and there is no repeat of the iowa debacle. Most candidates racing across the state trying to get ahead of this next contest and this next primary. Right now, senator Bernie Sanders that has the lead in nevada in the polls with 30 . Followed by Pete Buttigieg and joe biden closely on his heel. 17 and 16 . A good number of candidates are going to be starting the day in nevada before moving on to other states. Michael bloomberg isnt on the nevada ballot but his Campaign Making headlines, offering to release three women from the n nondisclosure agreement. In a statement we want to offer confidenty agreements. Bloombergs move comes after senator Elizabeth Warren blasted the ndas during the debate hammering bloomberg repeatedly on stage in las vegas friday night, and warren posted to her strong debate performance as a threat to President Trump. If anyone doubts whether or not i can fight him on a debate stage, i think we have the video from wednesday. I think theres a 50 50 chance that donald trump looks at debating me and doesnt even show up. Joe biden also in las vegas last night rallying the crowd when he criticized sanders medicare for all plan and insists hes the one to show up obama. A public option, medicare if you want it. If you want it. If you want it. And if you cant afford it, you get it for free. And by the way, i can get it done. I can get it passed. Ive done it. Pete buttigieg addressing his record with black voters in an event in vegas, acknowledging his missteps in appealing to voters of color. There are also a lot of times we didnt get it right. There were things i could not see because i dont have the lived experience of being treated differently because of the color of my skin. Thats the promise that i will make, that i will always show up. I will always listen. I will always learn and these voices will be elevated and empowered in my white house just as they are in my campaign. In vegas, tom steyer sticking to his message that washington needs to work for people beyond the beltway saying hell take the power back. They have made it clear that they would like to continue to control the country from washington, d. C. Thats what they want. And i have been saying all along were going to take the power back and send it out to the people of the United States. This is our one chance. Senator Amy Klobuchar in elko, nevada, challenging people to get out and vote and stand up for democracy. Its our job to stand up for democracy, you have a job tomorrow to caucus and be your own jury here, we even have a bigger job as you go out and talk to your friends and neighbors and maybe people that havent been that involved before or have fallen out of love of politics because of all the negativity, its your job really to be the messengers for our democracy. Also Bernie Sanders hitting on democracy in his speech to las vegas voters saying at the end of the day, getting President Trump out of office is at the top of his list. Yeah, we disagree on issues. Thats called democracy. We disagree on issues. But we cannot disagree that the president of the United States is simply not the kind of man that we need to have in the white house. Lindsey reiser is covering all of this for us from las vegas this morning where theres intense scrutiny of the third voting contest of the year. You have had your eyes and ears down there, what are you seeing . Reporter well, of course there is a lot of fear about interference in the election, particularly the news has dropped that the russians are trying to interfere in the primary. I spoke to a Senior Adviser of the state Democratic Party about what they are doing to protect the process, preserve the integrity of the caucusing, right down to the web site they are using to record the results, they are not disclosing that, they werent as of yesterday because they didnt want that to become a target. I want bring in jonathan allen, nbc. Com political analyst. How does this sanders, russia revelation change the energy and environment today . I think its hard to know exactly. I think its probably whats important for nevada where weve already seen so many people caucus early. Obviously this doesnt affect votes that already went in. I think that senator sanders was quick to distinguish or make a distinction between his reaction between potential russian interference and President Trumps reaction. For most democratic voters, i think at least in the shortterm will not change their opinion of him. If they liked him, theyre not suddenly going to say to themselves, oh, my god, russia likes him, i dont like him anymore or vice versa. Also its important to remember that Bernie Sanders got help in 2016 according to u. S. Intelligence officials from the russians. This isnt the first time, and thats information that voters already sort of have baked in that the chaos theory of russian intervention has included Bernie Sanders as a potential chaos candidate, and that is not affecting his success or at least has not prevented him from having discuss so far. I dont think its going to have any effect in the shortterm. Well have to see about South Carolina and super tuesday. Reporter i dont want to act like i know exactly what the motive is of picking Bernie Sanders, is that because they see him as the weakest democratic candidate . I think in the first place in 2016 russia looked at him as a way of causing problems for Hillary Clinton and weakening her in the primary. And im not sure what Vladimir Putins thinking now, and if i was, i would probably talk to u. S. Authorities about it. Switch lines. But i think that but i do think that theres a desire on the part of the russians to find whatever they can that causes conflict, and Bernie Sanders causes conflict within the Democratic Party because hes asking them to be Something Different than they have been, and the country is different than it has been. There is also on the other side potential because hes on the left end its more clear for russia how that works for any other outside government. Your latest article talks about the debate on nbc and msnbc about how the candidates came out swinging against Michael Bloomberg. Has there been any fallout for th his campaign from that night . There was a poll yesterday where he appeared to drop off about 3 in national polling. From democrats that i talked to, theres an expectation that hes really got to have a good performance in the South Carolina debate next week. That he needs to reassure people who have been supportive of him or open to him because that was as bad as it gets. There were a lot of fights in las vegas, boxing, ultimate fighting, you name it, and that was like its own category of beat down. Speaking of bloomberg, he Just Announced that hes going to be releasing three women from nondisclosure agreements so they are going to be able to talk freely about how they were treated at his company. Do you think thats a desperate attempt to maybe sort of turn on some voters who were turned off by his responses at the debate regarding that subject . I think hes trying to find a way to stop that story line from continuing, and i think hes trying to soufind a way to soun reasonable about nondisclosure agreements. The problem for him is this opens up a million new questions including are there women outside of the company that have nondisclosure agreements with Michael Bloomberg, will they be released from them if thats the case. And why just three . Are there men that have nondisclosure agreements with Michael Bloomberg for various things other than harassment or whatever. I mean, this is the kind of drip drip drip story that i think is going to be difficult for him to have go away quickly. Jonathan allen, thank you for joining us this morning, and were going to hear more from voters about what they want to see before they caucus, that havent cast their ballots and more on what the state party is doing, hiring paid employees at the call center to pick up the phones and avoid what we saw in iowa. Trying as best they can. Thank you so much, well be checking back in with you soon. Coronavirus fears turning into panic, fuelling protests around the world as the disease hits the 80,000 mark. 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Of course just after three this morning, temperatures expected to be in the 50s all day which i will take. Breaking news in the meantime concerning the coronavirus. The number of confirmed cases outside of mainland, china. Is rising, including right here in the u. S. Right now, there are 36 cases across the country. That number includes 18 people who spent nearly two weeks quarantined on the diamond princess cruise ship in japan. At last check, there are more than 76,000 cases of the virus worldwide and more than 2,300 people have died with new deaths reported in italy and iran. In the meantime chaos breaking out in cities across the globe and officials are blaming misinformation about the virus. Nbcs chief Foreign Correspondent Richard Engel reports from hong kong. Reporter fears of coronavirus are reaching hysteria. In ukraine, the mobs came out, attempting to block a convoy of 72 people, mostly ukrainians who just returned from wuhan, china. Even though their country men had been screened twice for infection. In South Carolina, the number of infections doubled overnight to 200. Nearly all of the cases tied to a secretive church considered a cult by other local christians. Health Officials Say 500 more Church Members are showing symptoms and may be infected. Many have gone underground. China remains the epicenter with millions forcibly confined to their homes. Some living on the upper floors of apartment blocks getting food delivered in buckets on ropes. Yet the virus still spreads. 30 countries and territories, nearly 80,000 cases. The World Health Organization unsure how far it will go. This outbreak could go any direction. While the virus does not appear to be highly lethal, rumors and misinformation are sowing panic. Social media i think is often at its worst when we are at our most vulnerable. So people are spreading rumors about the coronavirus to get clicks . I would hundred percent guarantee that. Its a scary thought. That was nbcs richard eng el reporting. Also until the news, reduction of violence in afghanistan is officially underway and could lead to a peace deal involving americas longest war. Matt bradley live in london. What have you been able to glean from the agreement. Reporter thats right, guys. Afghan and american troops, they woke up this morning to an unfamiliar sound, quiet, and after more than 18 years, the guns may have mostly fallen silent as you mentioned on the longest war in u. S. History. That reduction in violence is held for more than 16 hours. So far, there have been no reports of any violations. The terminology is important. This isnt just a truce or cease fire. No one is expecting hostilities to end completely. The idea is if this reduction in violence lasts for at least a week, then the u. S. And taliban will get together on february 29th and sign a longer term deal, and that could eventually lead to the permanent withdrawal of the more than 13,000 american soldiers who are still in afghanistan along with a lot of their nato allies who number in the thousands. This is all still a really big if, there was a peace deal agreement in september, and the president scrapped it. That was after a Major Taliban terror attack but in the past, there have been some successful reductions in violence. That could mean good things back in june 2018, the taliban and Afghan Government had a cease fire. Its early in the process. Barring major disaster, it looked for the moment that the u. S. Is on the road to peace in afghanistan finally. Guys. Finally, after all these years, 19, almost 19yearold war there in afghanistan. Nbcs matt bradley, thank you. Well, the president versus the court, how two separate legal actions by the president this week have George Conway comparing him to king kong. 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Make the world you want. Welcome back, on february 22nd, a very important nevada caucus day. Early voting has been underway. We are just a little bit less than nine hours away from the official caucuses starting. Lindsey reiser is on the strip for us in las vegas and this Early Morning, we expect a lot of people to hit the streets today, but theyre hitting the streets right now for a whole other reason, im sure. Reporter yeah, lets not get to that, luckily we havent had any major incidents with party goers, hopefully well keep that trend going. This race is significant in nevada for many reasons. Nevada, an early caucus state, really one of the first states with a large diversity that were going to be hearing from, as opposed to iowa and New Hampshire. Last night i attended an event here in nevada. It was a get out the caucus block party specifically for Elizabeth Warren and i talked to, of course, here youre looking at a break down of that voter population. I talked to the lot of voters about what theyre looking for. We are through warren supporters, we have liked her for years, we want to see her tonight, see what she has to say. Other voters said i came here tonight because of her performance in the debate on went night, the nbc msnbc debate, where she came out swinging right from the get go. The last debate, i wasnt happy with my performance, i didnt feel like i showed voters how hard i can fight, how badly i want this. That was not the case this time around. A lot of people were saying i was impressed by what i saw, it was a glimpse of somebody who could take on donald trump potentially when november rolls around. There are a host of issues that are important to nevada voters. Lets listen to some of them as they run the gamut. It matters when someone understands when the banks are pulling shenanigans. Im here to find out what Elizabeth Warren is planning to do for the black community. First and foremost. Thats my main concern. Elizabeth warren was compassionate for the people in puerto rico. I didnt have electricity for six months in puerto rico. Shes always straight to the point about everything and she seems to be the one thats always put a little fear into trump in the beginning. Reporter all right so i want to bring in lynette hall and max gonzalez with the Young Democrats here in informed. Good morning to both of you. Thank you so much for joining me. Lynette, lets start with you. You are already a committed Amy Klobuchar voter but you are going to be caucusing today. You havent cast your ballot yet. Tell me both why youre supporting amy and why youre caucusing today. For me, its about experience. Amy has a proven track record of being effective in the senate and throughout her career. I think she has the grit and the toughness to take on trump in november and actually beat him. For me, thats the main goal, and i think shes the best person to do that, and i also think that she has the ability to build a Wide Coalition of support across the country, which we need to win wisconsin, michigan, and all the states we need to beat trump. You heard me saying that a lot of voters impressed with warren on her debate performance, how did you feel about how Amy Klobuchar did. The last debate she had a strong night, a lot of fundraising a lot of support, a great showing in New Hampshire. Do you think she did great . I thought she did great. I thought she stood up for herself, and answered the questions with the knowledge she brings to the table. She said shes been in the arena, and she knows what shes doing. We dont need someone on the job training so i think that she demonstrated that well in the debate, and i appreciated that. Max, you are part of the same organization, but you are in camp biden. Thats right. And you have cast your early ball lot. Tell me why you have already early caucused and tell me why youre a biden supporter. When it came to early caucusing, i have to say that the nevada Democratic Party is really trying to help voters to go out and vote because i think they understand that the whole caucus process isnt a very easy process for many people and voters have every day lives. Theyre trying to get people out there to participate in the process. The reason why im supporting biden is because hes a strong candidate and also this is a very unique election in which our main priority as democrats should be to removing donald trump from the white house. And biden has the ability to bring in a lot of people from across the voter spectrum when it comes to registered democrats and he is the candidate that is going to be able to do that in november. And of course biden not having as strong of a showing in iowa and New Hampshire, hoping for the diverse vote in nevada. Do you think that today, tonight, when the results come in hopefully tonight that basically youll see what you want for your candidate, but youll see that he was able to bring up that support . Definitely. I am confident that Vice President biden will be able to bring in those voters that are here in nevada as nevada does really represent the rest of the country. Iowa and New Hampshire i would say personally does not represent the majority of democratic voters but nevada does and im sure biden will be able to really show his true strength here. And our viewers saw a break down of the numbers of previous years. 75,000 people have cast their early ballot. Definitely will be interesting to see today whether that affects turnout and which way, of course, max and lynette, thank you for joining me this morning. We have two different perspectives here in nevada. Its really a glimpse of course of what were seeing across the board. Coming up were going to really hone in on what is being done to protect the process, really make sure that the phone lines arent being jammed of course by trolls like we saw in iowa. Were going talk about what theyre doing to try and prevent things like that. Theyre looking at the iowa example and doing the complete opposite, i assume, in nevada, theyre trying to. Not taking the app anymore. I mean, weve got early voting counts that have already started, of course that wont be released until we get the full results but we appreciate it. And sometimes the truth hurts when its about President Trump. Often someone else feels the pain. Up next, the latest casualties of the president s ire and why it could even include the nations security. Hello, i saw you move in, and i wanted to welcome you to the neighborhood with some homemade biscuits oh, thats so nice and a little tip, geico could help you save on homeowners insurance. Hmm cookies uhh, biscuits. 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Asking will Richard Grenell destroy the Intelligence Community, but Jonathan Stevenson who writes were used to this president naming unqualified loyalists to high positions but this is not just another disparagement of the separation of powers. Within the executive branch itself it is a calculated insult to the integrity and professionalism of the u. S. Intelligence community. One that threatens to further impair the function of the sound intelligence collection and analysis. That is the information, u. S. Policy and to politicize the relationship between the white house and intelligence agencies. Weve got one more for you, George Conway saying the trumps king kong nickname has come into full fruition. He writes in the Washington Post it reflects trumps desire to escape straits in particular legal constraints that conway urged was by two developments, the latest executive clemency spree and continued tax against the federal judiciary. Joining us hayes brown, the world news editor i should say, a reporter for buzz feed, thanks for having me. I want to start with add mccravens editorial, it was poignant and gave me chills. Scathing. It was. Lets talk about the fact hes going over the president s ego, saying theres a concern for National Security. Whats your take on that. I think admiral mcraven is entirely correct. Such a well respected person in the National Security sphere. He was the person who oversaw the raid that took down o osama bin laden. He makes a valid point that maguire for the fact that he was in the Trump Administration and was named acting dni by the president , he was never really someone who was on board the trump train. He was a professional in the Intelligence Community who really was willing to say when the ukraine stuff came over his desk over the course of the last summer into the impeachment inquiry, he was willing to say, like, if im called to testify, i will testify and tell the truth, and he did behind closed doors. He spoke to the impeachment inquiry behind closed doors in a deposition, and i think that mcraven is right to say that for maguire to be forced out, for allowing this briefing to go to congress, which is wild to think that you would ever not Want Congress to know that russia is interfering potentially in 2020 u. S. Election. The fact that he was allegedly fired for allowing that briefing to go forward spells out troubling things for what the Intelligence Community is and what it should be. Yeah, he was doing his job. He was doing his job. The constraints on the Intelligence Community were put into place after watergate and the Trump Administration has been so determined to knock them down one by one, and shove those guardrails away. Absolutely. Lets follow up on that stevenson oped from the New York Times because in it he says, and he warns of the dangers of a trump naming yet another loyalist in Richard Grenell whos the ambassador to germany there, as the acting dni. Is there anyone out there who looks at this appointment and doesnt see an issue . I assume their last name is trump if they are, because heres the thing, it really didnt hit me until i would say yesterday at one point, the president has appointed a loyalist to be in charge of the Intelligence Community, to say whether or not the intelligence coming into the cia, and all the other intelligence gathering operations within the u. S. Government, the dnis job is to take that information, synthesize it and put forward, you know, a vision for what is happening in the world, and present that to the president so that the president and the executive branch as a whole can make informed decisions. If the person who is in that job is not someone who is willing to take the facts that come in and present them unvarnished to both congress and the president , that is a huge problem for actual Decision Making in this country. What do you do when you cant trust whether or not if the cia says, oh, we believe that, you know, pakistan is doing x, y, z in comparison to india, if you cant trust that because you worry that it might play into say trumps wanting to go to india to get a new trade deal with modi, what do you do then . I will say thris as much as hes getting a lot of peak for his lack of intelligence experience there is a history fact that Richard Grenell being in the cabinet is the first openly gay person to serve in the u. S. Cabinet and being named active dni. For whatever that is worth. That is out there, that is true, and hes also acting because they werent sure they could get him through the senate, republicans telling the administration, we dont think he can be confirmed if you name it. And were trying to wave the president off. Hayes brown, thank you so much for coming in with this insight. Thank you. A deadlock reported in the trial of Harvey Weinstein. The jury says it has agreed on some of the counts against the movie mogul but not all. So could this mean for freedom for weinstein . Uldnt be at my. Best for my family. In only 8 weeks with mavyret. I was cured. I faced reminders of my hep c every day. I worried about my hep c. But in only 8 weeks with mavyret. I was cured. 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Danny cevallos to help break it down. Danny, what happens if that is the case . The most likely outcome is whats called a partial verdict because it seems theyve reached th unanimity on some of the counts. But they are deadlocked on the predatory sexuality assau predatory Sexual Assault count. The law disfavors these. They create a big mess. You know, at the appellate level. But it does mean that the defendant can be recharged on those hung counts. And, simultaneously, convicted on the convicted counts. But judges hate it. Theyll deliver whats called an alan charge. Go back in there, jury, and deliberate. Really push. Defense attorneys like me dont generally like that charge because we think it encourages the jury to hurry up and reach a verdict and that verdict is often guilty. What does it say about how his defense team has done . Particularly, that young lady that you see there so far. Donna rotunno i believe you are talking about. Yes. I think theyve done have very good job. This is a very challenging case because you have duty bound to challenge the credibility of these accusers but do so in a way thats not overly harsh. I thought they did a good job. They exploited inconsistencies in their testimony and they did that very well. At the same time, it is always a challenge to defend against someone getting up on the stand, taking an oath, pointing at your client and saying thats the guy that did this to me. Does having a partial verdict make it easier for the Weinstein Team to file these appeals and possibly be successful in it . Any verdict of guilty is really difficult to overcome on appeal. Generally speaking, you want a mistrial if thats the case, on all counts. But with a highprofile defendant like this, a mistrial isnt really the victory it is in an unknown defendants case. Because its likely that the prosecution might want to prosecute that particular defendant again. Danny, appreciate your being here. Thank you. All right. Sounding the alarm about the kremlins latest role in influencing u. S. Elections. Two very different reactions from the president and Bernie Sanders and why russia may want to help votes. And lindsey riser is live in las vegas just hours before the nevada caucuses get started. Lindsey. Yeah, guys, coming up, we are going to hear from tim hogan, the Communications Director for the Amy Klobuchar campaign about how she did in the debate and how she is trying to move momentum from New Hampshire here to nevada today. We live in las vegas coming up. Applebees new irresistabowls now starting at 7. 99. Now thats eatin good in the neighborhood. Oh, oh, announcer ® onceweekly ozempic® is helping many people with type 2 diabetes like james lower their blood sugar. A majority of adults who took ozempic® reached an a1c under 7 and maintained it. Heres your a1c. Oh my a1c is under 7 announcer and you may lose weight. Adults who took ozempic® lost on average up to 12 pounds. 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The big question now, where are her kids . Good morning to you, everybody. It is saturday, february 22nd. Im candace gibson, alongside corey coffin, and Lindsey Reiser who is covering for us all things las vegas. Lindsey. Yeah. We are going to be talking about what state democrats are doing here to print an iowa debacle. Hiring paid workers to pick up the phones. And also not disclosing the sites they are going to be reporting results on. We are as going to be talking to one of our road warriors about bidens campaign. All right. We are going to have more from lindsey in just a moment but we want to begin with new reaction this morning on russias attempts to interfere in the 2020 election. Senator Bernie Sanders denouncing the kremlin last night after reports that russia trying to help his president ial campaign. The Intelligence Community has been very clear about it. Whether trump recognizes it or not or acknowledges it or not, they did interfere in 2016. The Intelligence Community is telling us they are interfering in this campaign right now, in 2020. And what i say to mr. Putin, if elected president , trust me. You are not going to be interfering in american elections. In the meantime, President Trump at a las vegas rally over night dismissing intelligence reports that russia is meddling in the 2020 election to help him get reelected. They said, today, that putin wants to be sure that trump gets elected. Here we go again. I was told a week ago, they said, you know, theyre trying to start a rumor. Its disinformation. Thats the only thing theyre good at. Theyre not good at anything else. They get nothing done. Do nothing democrats. That putin wants to make sure i get elected. All right. Joining us now, jenna mclaughlin, National Security reporter for yahoo news. And reporter for the Washington Post. Thank you for being in. My goodness. Jenna, want to start with you. The president there calling a briefing given by senior intel officials to lawmakers on National Security issues a rumor and disinformation. Is that how National Security officials actually see it . I think at this point, based upon some of the briefings that ive been in with the National Counterintelligence center. Reading, you know, public opeds from the top intelligence officials, yes, the russians have been continuing to meddle in the elections. They never really stopped. And a lot of that has to do with disinformation with sowing chaos. And, rhonda, your colleagues at the Washington Post broke this story about russia attempting to help Bernie Sanders. What more do we know about that . Well, what we know is he and you saw it from the clip there when hes talking to reporters on the tarmac he came out, very strongly, saying that when he is president , he would stop this. And he tells putin, he appears to be talking directly to putin in that clip. Saying to stop this. And when he when he sanders becomes president , that he will not allow this. So he came out very strongly. I think, right now, everyone is waiting to see if this is going to affect him in his standing right now as a frontrunner. Of course, we have the nevada caucuses in hours from now. So i think thats what the next part of this is is seeing how does this affect him moving forward . Yeah. I think that voters really want to know how his campaign is going to continue on as far as trying to thwart these efforts. Jeb that, you wrote in an article saying quote Intelligence Experts are skeptical Richard Grenell as director of National Intelligence is a good fit for the job. What have you been hearing from National Intelligence officials on all thats happened in the dnis office this week . Whats the reaction been like . Absolutely. I mean, its its chaos at the top. Many have compared it to a hollowing out, a decapitation, perhaps. Theres no longer a fulltime dni. There hasnt been one since late summer when dan coats left. There is no deputy dni. The official that the cia had sent to to odni to sort of act as the deputy before one could be nominated, has also left. There is no general counsel. So the dni is really sort of without top leadership. And while some intelligence officials might argue that thats a fair thing, you know, the cia used to lead the Community Maybe is perfectly happy to not have a dni in charge. Many others say this position was created after 9 11 to make sure Something Like that would never happen again. So its a very Important Office that deals with all the money in the community, all the coordination in the community. And someone with large amounts of National Security experiences is meant to be at the helm. So then that said, what level of danger does putting somebody like this, with no no, experience i see in there. That remains to be seen. I had seen reports that Ambassador Grenell had requested access to the intelligence underlying some of the recent reports about russian meddling. We will see how much he can do in a short period of time. Also, he is still in germany. Its unclear whether he will do the job from germany. Or whether he will try to do it from locally and return to germany. Its an interesting scenario. Rhonda, lawmakers on capitol hill received a briefing last week. From your reporting, are they taking that threat of russian interference with this upcoming election seriously . Given all of the fallout that has now happened with the president. I think they are. And i think youre going to continue to see a few hearings, whether they be closed door or open hearings in the coming weeks about this issue. And we have to remember that if you go all the way back to when Robert Mueller testified in july, he talked about russia, potentially, interfering in this 2020 election. And then you had others during the public testimony phase of the impeachment. Fiona hill mentioned it. She said russia is still very actively hoping to interfere in this next election. There were so many people throughout this year who have come in front of congress saying that this is a real threat. So i do think house democrats, probably, will bring this back up. I think the House Judiciary Committee will be one of the committees that youre going to see bring this back up in the coming weeks. These warnings have been coming since 2016 and now somebodys actually sounding the alarmabili alarm about it and of course we will see how this unfolds. Jenna mclaughlin and rhonda clovin. They get the chance to decide in the democratic primary today. Caucuses begin in just a matter of hours across the state. But that said, more than 70,000 people already voted during this weeks earlyVoting Period. The latest polls. Right now, on the screen, showing Bernie Sanders is the favorite. Leading the group with 30 . Pete buttigieg and joe biden are all but tied at second at 17 and 16 . Elizabeth warren at 12. Amy klobuchar at candidates havn working their way across the sate and the country. Bloomberg of course isnt on the ballot but his campaign, certainly, making news today. He is offering to release three women from his companys nondisclosure agreements. The women complained about inappropriate comments they said bloomberg made. Saying, quote, we wont offer confidentiality agreements to resolve claims of Sexual Harassment or misconduct Going Forward. The other candidates targeted bloomberg at the debate and events across nevada this week. And one made one last appeal to voters in that state. Come on. You all live in las vegas. This is the place you can put down the betting line. Im just offering you this. I think there is a 50 50 chance that donald trump looks at debating me and doesnt even show up. Whether it is racism, whether it is over religion, whether its over the language you speak at home, whether its over disability or orientation or gender identity, whatever it is, weve all got to stand up for each other right now because we dont know who theyre going to go after next. If we do that, everyone will be safe. They have made it clear that they would like to continue to control the country from washington, d. C. Thats what they want. And i have been saying all along, were going to take the power back and send it out to the people of the United States. We disagree on issues. Thats called democracy. We disagree on issues. But we cannot disagree that the president of the United States is simply not the kind of man that we need to have in the white house. Its our job to stand up for our democracy. We even have a bigger job as you go out and talk to your friends and neighbors and maybe people that havent been that involved before. Or have fallen out of love of politics because of all the negativity. Its your job, really, to be the messengers for our democracy. Ed the good news is the field narrowing. The better news, youre also taking really closer looks at the other guys now. Youre all taking a real good look. Theyre not bad folks. Theyre just not democrats. Anyway. Well, Lindsey Reiser is live for us in las vegas on the strip. And, lindsey, clearly based on the 70,000 people who have already voted in the early voting, there is a little bit of excitement going going into todays caucus day. Yeah. Really could go either way. Could that be an indication of the fervor right now around caucus day and how jazzed up voters feel . Or a lot of them have to work today so maybe they are deciding to stick this one out. But lets talk about one of the key significant factors thats playing out in nevada and that is diversity. Lets pull some of the demographics to show you the makeup. Iowa and New Hampshire, you guys are used to us talking about the racial makeup there. Iowa, 85 white. New hampshire, 90 . Nevada, 48. 7 . 20 are latino. 8 are asian here in nevada and of course one of the candidates thats hoping to really capitalize on that diverse electorate is joe biden. A road warrior whos been following the Biden Campaign for us. Biden not having as strong of a showing in iowa or New Hampshire. Tell me how his camp is feeling about their chances today. Well, they are feeling a bit more positive. A lot of his messaging, ever since iowa and New Hampshire has been lets wait and hear from these minority voters. As we come to nevada, as we move forward into South Carolina, even looking into super tuesday, they are really hedging their be bets that these minority voters will turn out. And something i have noticed just in the past week covering him here, it feels different. The events look different. The energy is there. In iowa and New Hampshire, a majority of them were much older and white. Here, you see a diverse mix in age and also in background. So you do sense that energy. But whether its enough, thats obviously something that the campaign is worried about. Well, and one other thing thats really been playing in are these debates. And how do you feel biden did on wednesday nights debate that was right here in las vegas . There were some moments where people on twitter were like wheres biden . And then there were some other moments where he kind of came out swinging. You know, really saying im the one who can get it done. Thats been his claim to fame. How do you feel he did . Yeah. In the beginning, i think a lot of the reporters who cover him were wondering that same thing. Where is he . He should insert himself because all of these you saw senator Elizabeth Warren, obviously, trying to take early. Very early. I think it was four minutes in is what i noted down in my notes. And all these other candidates kind of jabbing gaensz eaagains other. And then he started to insert himself. Whether that was powerful enough, we will see. But he obviously kept a moremeasured tone and thats something that he has been trying to do. Im the uniter. And marianna, quickly, bidens cam not confident in how today will go. No. We have heard from biden himself saying, listen, this could be iowa 2. 0. Caucus chaos. So they are worried a little about that and the results and how that could affect him moving forward because he needs that momentum going into South Carolina. We are going to be speaking to a senior of the state party. But corey and candace, for now, well send it back to you as we continue our live coverage here in las vegas. Lindsey riser there on the vegas strip. Just after 4 00 in the morning, our thanks to you. We are going to have continuing coverage of the nevada caucuses today, all day long. Brian williams will be here. Nicolle wallace. Chris matthews. Ari melber. Joy reid will work late into the evening. It all starts at 2 00 p. M. Eastern time, right here on msnbc. And coming up, surprising admission with the acting white house chief of staff said about immigration thats not making the president happy. And roger stones lastditch ploy to stay out of prison. Were not talking about a president ial pardon, though. Nyquil severe gives you powerful relief for your worst cold and flu symptoms, on sunday night and every night. Nyquil severe. The nightime, sniffling, sneezing, coughing, aching, stuffy head, best sleep with a cold, medicine. [ fastpaced drumming ] we are reporting live from las vegas ahead of caucus day. You are looking at the live picture of the strip where, believe it or not, ice pellets are falling from the sky. I believe they call it but hopefully any meteorologist can tell me but its melting before it hits the ground. Weve talked about many of the candidates. Lets talk, now, about Amy Klobuchar. She saw incredible momentum coming out one of the debates out of New Hampshire and that really helped her in New Hampshire both in delegate count and in fundraising. Right now, she is in fourth place in terms of delegate count much but shes been basically really hoping to keep that momentum from New Hampshire headed into the caucus day here. Lets heard what she had to say in terms of how she is matching up against Mike Bloomberg, one of her fellow candidates. I actually welcomed mayor bloomberg to the stage. I thought that he shouldnt be hiding behind his tv ads. And so i was all ready for this big day. And then i looked at the memo from his Campaign Staff this morning. And it said that he actually thought the three of us should get out of the way. That is what his campaign said. Because we should pave the way for him to become the nominee. Of course, that was debate night on wednesday night here in las vegas on nbc and msnbc. I want to bring in tim hogan, Communications Director for amy for america. Lets talk about that debate performance. First of all, she was really strong in the debate. And as, do you feel like in fighting among the Democratic Party is normal, kind of fair game in a primary . Or do you think its hurting rather than helping . Well, i think she had a strong debate performance. I think that clip you just showed shows that shes not going to step aside. We had a strong debate performance in New Hampshire, as well as nevada. She raised 12 million in just a short amount of time after the New Hampshire debate. So we have the resources to compete not only here, nevada, and South Carolina, but also in super tuesday states. Did you see the same kind of fundraisi fundraising after the las vegas debate . We saw the same. And she is someone, who because our campaign on the rise took some attacks on the debate stage but has shown she is strong and i think what voters care about right now is someone who can demonstrate that they can beat donald trump. That they can build a big coalition. And Amy Klobuchar has proven that, time and time again. Whats your reaction to reports that russia is meddling from afar, actually trying to help Bernie Sanders campaign . Well, i think what senator klobuchar noted yesterday is that particularly with donald trump with russian interference, it needs to be taken seriously. He shouldnt be throwing people out of his administration and not listening to his intelligence officials. The reports are serious and they should be listened to. We also know that on debate night, there was a lot of back and forth between Pete Buttigieg and Amy Klobuchar. Lets listen to that exchange. You are staking your candidacy on your washington experience. Youre on the committee that oversees border security. Youre on the committee that does trade. Youre literally in part of the committee thats overseeing these things. And were not able to speak to, literally, the first thing about the politics of the country. Are you trying to say that im dumb . Or are you mocking me here, pete . I said i made an error. People sometimes forget names. I wish everyone was as perfect as you, pete. All right. She and Pete Buttigieg are kind of battling for the middle of the ground. What does senator klobuchar do to stand out among people who are deciding between buttigieg, biden, klobuchar . Well, what she said there is what i think is true is she has the experience not only in getting things done, passing over 100 pieces of loegislation in washington, d. C. , through gridlock. Making a difference in medipeop lives but she can win and she can win big. That means winning in places across the country where you can build a big coalition, have long coat tails and hopefully flip some of those senate seats so we can send Mitch Mcconnell packing and get something done. If you look at track record, you stack Amy Klobuchars record against anyone on that stage and she comes out way ahead. Quickly, where does she need to land today in order to make it to super tuesday . I think she is going to have a Strong Performance here. Regardless, we have resources to compete. We are up on the air in many super tuesday states where our competitors are not. So we feel great about where were going. Tim hogan, Communications Director for amy for america. Thanks for joining us this morning. Corey and candace, of course a lot of talk about how today is going to play out at caucus sites across the state. We are going to be hearing from senior policy advisor to the state dems about all the efforts that theyre taking. Of course, nobody exactly knows how today is going to land. Even this Senior Advisor but were going to hear some of the precautions theyve taken. We know the Democratic Party is not guaranteeing results but hopefully they are working toward getting them as quickly as possible. Which is a smart thing for them to do. Just kind of say expectations will be very low. Yes. All right. Lindsey, thank you. And we are also following this story from the Washington Post. Acting chief of staff mick mulvaney, at a private event this week, told the crowd that the u. S. Is, quote, desperate for legal immigrants. Mulvaney, reportedly, saying we are running out of people to fuel the Economic Growth that weve had in our nation over the last four years. We need more immigrants. This is according to a recording of his remarks obtained by the post. Nbc news has not heard this recording. Joining us now, White House Reporter from the hill. Morgan, good morning to you. Of course, we know this administration has taken a hard line on immigration, specifically ilLegal Immigration but also Legal Immigration when it comes to trying to just reoverhaul the immigration system. So the one of the thoughts is, does mulvaneys comments match up with what you are hearing in the white house . Well, i think there are two important things here. First of all, this has gotten quite a bit of attention because it does seem to put mulvaney at odds with people that have more hardline immigration views in the white house. Like stephen miller, who has advocated for and indeed succeeded in pushing policies that have curbed both legal legal and ilLegal Immigration. I think its also important to remember that there are others, like jared kushner, who have advocated for, you know, revamping the immigration system in a way that attracts highskilled workers. Highskilled immigrants. So there are sort of diverging opinions in the white house. But obviously, you know, for trump, the prevailing effort seems to be curb both legal and ilLegal Immigration at this point. And, morgan, for the most part, what does this say about the president s relationship with his acting chief of of staff . Well, that has been something that has been the subject to to of chatter since october when mulvaney gave that Infamous Press conference about get over it. Right. You know, i think that there have been rumors for several months that mulvaney could be on the outs. But ive been i have heard from sources that hes not expected to leave. And thats really just rumors at this point. Of course, we know that a president ial tweet can change that at any moment. So i think there is just a lot of uncertainty about many in the administration and mulvaney is still there. And i think thats thats a story at this point. Okay. So the post also reported that at this same event, mulvaney talked about the republican partys perceived hypocrisy when it comes to the deficit. Apparently he said, quote, my party is very interested in deficits whether there is a democrat in the white house. The worst thing in the world is deficits when barack obama was the president. And then donald trump became president and were a lot less interested as a party. So you mentioned the fact that, you know, its not necessarily confirmed that hes going to be going anywhere. But how does this play for mulvaney . Well, i mean, it doesnt look good. Its its its another controversy for mulvaney. Admitting admitting that and that coming out in the press. But, you know, as weve seen in this administration, there are various news stories that come out. You know, every single week. So this could be a blip by next week. The funny thing about what he did say. They were all just facts. Yes. Yes. 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Part of the irresistible scent collection from gain developing this morning, as the nevada caucuses are set to get underway, we are learning that russia has been trying to interfere in the democratic contest. Senator Bernie Sanders confirming that his campaign was told by u. S. Officials that russia is trying to help him win. This as the New York Times reports u. S. Intel officials issued a warning to house lawmakers this moscow is meddling in the 2020 election to help get President Trump reelected. Nbcs hans nichols is joining us now from the white house this morning. Hans, good morning to you. Any reaction so far from the president overnight to this news . Not over night to the new, candace. The president indicated yesterday that he thought this was all disinformation. This is really a test for the president and his new director of National Intelligence on russia interference. He has a new odni. We will see how they respond. Theyre taking a different approach, though, than senator sanders, who has acknowledged that hes received a briefing about russian potential efforts to help his campaign. And he had a message for putin. President donald trump, back from a west coast swing where he downplayed reports that russia is interfering in the 2020 president ial election. Putin wants to be sure that trump wins. Give me a break. Reporter the president dismissing intelligence from his own administration, including ousted acting director of National Intelligence, joseph mcguire, after his office briefed lawmakers about russias current meddling. I was told a week ago. They said, you know, theyre trying to start a rumor. Its disinformation. But Democratic Frontrunner Bernie Sanders confirming that officials have told his campaign that russia is actively trying to help him win. And responded with warning for the russian president. Let me tell mr. Putin. The American People, whether youre republicans, democrats, independents, are sick and tired of seeing russia and other countries interfere in our election. Before the Washington Post exclusive report came out that russia was actively working to help senator sanders and other reports that trump wants to see trump reelected, trump suggested if putin interfered in the election, he would do so in favor of sanders. Wouldnt he rather have bernie . Who honeymooned in moscow. Trumps comments coming as ambassador Richard Grenell takes over as acting director of National Intelligence amid criticism about his qualifications. This is dangerous to our country. Itd be like sending me in for brain surgery. With one potential candidate for the permanent job, Republican Congressman doug collins opting for a senate job instead. This is not a job that interests me. Its not one that i would accept. The but president insisting that four great candidates are under consideration at dni, promising a decision within the next few weeks. And, guys, in the past the president s blown past those selfimposed deadlines on making nominations, sending something formally to the senate. He does have a little urgency here though because Richard Grenell is serving in acting capacity and he really only has until midmarch. I think march 12th. And if the president doesnt send another name to the senate by that time, grenell has to leave so the clock is ticking. The president saying he has a lot of candidates in mind for this position but they clearly have a challenge and that is how to navigate the 2020 election and make sure that politics and or foreign interference doesnt affect american dm democracy. Guys. But, hans, if you name someone before that march 12th deadline, grenell could still yeah, grenell would get a another couple months. The vacancies act indicates he would get a couple months. That could be extended if the senate doesnt move quickly on whatever the nominee the president would have to formally send to the senate. So grenell could be here through, really, there is a confirmation process and you have a new dni. But that person would be senate confirmed. And remember, the president prefers acting so its going to be interesting to see how they untie this not. Hans nichols in d. C. Thanks, hans. Just hours before todays nevada caucuses get underway, a live picture of the strip. It is lit up like its 6 00 p. M. But it is 4 36 in the morning there. Its great. 24 7. Lindsey, good morning. Yeah. C candace, i think it always looks like this. You wouldnt know the time based on the traffic. I think this might be the city that never sleeps. But, you know, looking ahead to today, we want to talk about what safeguards are in place to make sure there is integrity in the process. Make sure its not chaotic hike it was in iowa. I spoke with john summers and hes been Senior Advisor to the state Democratic Party. He is also Communications Director for senator harry reid and i asked him what specific things are you doing so that the public can trust that it wont be chaotic . The process will be protected. And he said, you know what, i think a lot of voters appreciate we cant tell you exactly everything that were doing because, of course, that would sort of run antithetical to protecting the process. So even down to the website where theyre posting the results, they werent even releasing that because they didnt want that to be a target. And so he says, you know, people just have to trust us that we are doing what we can. Really going from a hightech option in iowa, that app, to a a lowtech option. They have a iptab with builtin calculators and managers and captains will then call phone lines. There is a call center thats managed by 200 paid employees to pick up those phone lines. So i asked john summers a little about the safeguards and even whether maybe the fact that theyre transitioning from hightech to low tech might jam up the process, might slow things down. Lets take a listen. Its going to take a little more time. Its going to take longer than it took four years ago and there are a few reasons for that. For one, we have more candidates, right . Four years ago, we had two candidates. Now, we have a handful of candidates. On top of that, we have more people. And as we talked about earlier, last cycle, we had 84,000 people who participated. Again, weve already had 75,000. Nearly, 75,000 participated in the caucuses. So we have more candidates. Weve got more people. And the rules for reporting have changed by the dnc, which requires a little more time and on the back end of, you know, pulling together all that day and reporting it the way they want it reported so its going to take a little more time. How much more time it takes is hard to know. I should also add what happened in iowa and and all the additional Quality Control that goes on top of that. And moving from a system that was hightech to lowtech is also going to slow down the process a little bit. Do you think its possible that well go to sleep on saturday not knowing who the winner was . It might be possible on the east coast. But i think, you know, the partys going to do everything it can to report the to be able to report those results on saturday night. So, candace and cory, kind of as you guys were talking, may be lower expectations a little bit. Not making any promises about when we can expect to hear anything but i also talked to him about the issues important here, uniquely to nevada voters. Of course, water being a huge one here in the desert. Environmental issues and Climate Change. Also, healthcare. The Culinary Union, the Largest Union here in nevada. They want to keep their healthcare. Weve heard theyre not big fans of medicare for all because they want to keep their strong programs that they have worked so hard to protect. And also, of course, big on everybodys minds is nominating somebody who can beat president donald trump. I do love that Climate Change is a lot of voters say the numberone important thing, a lot of democratic voters say the numberone important thing is to beat donald trump. Do you think that voters in nevada share that sentiment . Oh, absolutely. Absolutely. And and i think any one of those candidates has the ability to do that. I think some are probably better positioned to win than others. But when you look at the national polling, every one of those candidates is is in a better position to beat trump. Of course, what the poll says today doesnt really mean a whole lot on election day. But the polls, generally, seem to hold and thats encouraging to us. I think the main thing for us is to make sure we keep our eye on the ball and make sure that we continue to talk about the issues that are important to, you know, people here in never h nevada and all across the country, which is obviously jobs, healthcare, major. The economy. And Climate Change has risen to one of the top issues that people are most concerned about. And a lot of people already have cast their early ballots. 75,000 people, in fact, to break down the numbers for you guys. 2016, 84,000 people, total, voted. In 2008, 118,000. So that could go either way. That could be an indication of whats to come or we may see a ton of people coming out today. Or maybe there is a lot of people who work today. Maybe they dont like actual inopinion caucusing. Its a very kind of personal event for some people. They maybe want to keep that inside. The nature of caucusing is that you are out there with your neighbors and trying to convince them to go to the other side so not everybodys a huge fan of that. But we will have to see how many people turn out today. The fact that they have so much early voting also could mean that there is going to be less turnout for the caucusing. That could be. Absolutely. Lindsey reiser in las vegas, thank you. A mystery in hawaii takes a new turn. A mother is arrested in the investigation into her two missing children. Finally, found in hawaii. Why friends say the woman was obsessed with the end of times, as her children remain missing. But first, roger stone with another bid to avoid prison time. This time, taking aim at the judge who just sentenced him. whistling whistling hello, i saw you move in, and i wanted to welcome you to the neighborhood with some homemade biscuits oh, thats so nice and a little tip, geico could help you save on homeowners insurance. Hmm cookies uhh, biscuits. 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But as a defense attorney, you got to try everything that may work. In this case, stone has filed a motion for a new trial. Very common thing to do. The judge is still considering it. Thats still open. Thats why you have this new motion to disqualify the judge because of that line. Now, it is true that judges must avoid, not only the actual conflict but, any appearance of conflict. However, this was a line, as the judge was sort of thanking all of the jurors and the court. And it was kind of a throwaway line to me. The jurors served with integrity. Judges always compliment jurors as they are on their way out the door. You have begin up your time. Youve devoted your many hours. We thank you. And so this, to me, seems like a throwaway line. But as defense counsel, you have to try everything. And the theory here is that by complimenting them for their integrity, the judge is now disqualified from evaluating whether this new juror claim of juror misconduct is valid. And the juror misconduct thing, its all about this one juror, who is a registered democrat. Told them during the questionnaire, including stones attorneys, that he had ran for office. So do they have any any defense here with this in. On the first for recusal, i dont know that theyre likely to succeed. Butt but like i said, you got to try. On part two, on the motion for a new trial, it is possible. New evidence arises that questions the integrity of the jury is something the court should look very seriously at. But i think, ultimately, the judge looking at this will be amy berman jackson. I dont believe the recusal motion will be successful. Danny have sass lis, thank you. Breaking details on the coronavirus. Protests as pandemic concerns rise. And could it spread in the u. S. Like it has in asia . Some answers next. Thousands of women with metastatic Breast Cancer, which is Breast Cancer that has spread to other parts of the body, are living in the moment and taking ibrance. 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The individuals were on the bus and had been on the bus for an hour or two or even more. They were exhausted. We needed to get them out of there. The thing that people dont appreciate is that on the plane that flew them back to Lackland Air Force base and Travis Air Force base had a segregated compartment where you could comfortably take care of these people and segregate them from the other people on the plane so there wouldnt be that possibility of their cross contaminating or infecting people. It wasnt an easy decision but at the end of the day it was the right decision. We needed to get them out of there and to a place they can be taken care of. Experts have referred to the diamond princess as a perfect incubator. There have been questions about if that was the right decision. When you say the right decision, what do you mean . To quarantine all those people for that many days on the ship when we started hearing more and more cases of people coming out of the ship. The one thing that was clear as you said correctly there were a lot of infections going on in the ship. There was a break down of infection control. We dont know how that happened or what exactly was going on but people were getting infected at a very high rate. There were more infected people on the diamond princess than any other country besides china. So it really was kind of a hot bed of infection which was one of the reasons why we wanted to get our people out of there and back home safely. And they did so urgently last weekend. Doctor, where would you say we are right now with this virus . Are we on the brink of a pandemic . You know, we very well might be. Our fate here in the United States and throughout the world is really going to depend on the nonchinese countries that have had travel related cases as to whether or not they could successfully prevent the sustained transmission of persontopersontopersonto person. If they cant contain that, then what youre going to have is essentially mini outbreaks in multiple different countries. Once you have that, it becomes very difficult to control, and then you have the makings of a pandemic, and right now, for example, its just been very clear that that is what is going on in japan and in south korea. Were starting to see the sustained transmissions which is very troublesome. What do you qualify, doctor, as a pandemic, thousands upon thousands of infections in the u. S. . Theres multiple impeeric definitions but the bottom line is where you have sustained transmission of an infected agent diffusely spread throughout the entire world. Its not just in one place. For example, theres an epidemic in china but it isnt a pandemic for the world yet but it very well could be. Dr. Anthony fauci we appreciate your time, the director of allergy and infectious diseases. The trouble with tech. 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Good morning, im alli velshi i las vegas, the fist true test of a Candidates National appeal because it has a far more demographically diverse delegation than New Hampshire or iowa. The Democratic State and fasc l National Apparatus are taking no chances in their effort to ensure this is not a repeat of the disaster in iowa. There are 252 caucus sites, some of which are hosting as many as two dozen precincts and that could allow for officials to monitor things more easily but it could create confusion. Early voting began a week ago, the first time the Nevada Democratic primary has allowed early voting and the turn out was very high, more than 75,000 people participated, the total turnout for the Democratic Caucus in the state. The results will be folded into todays process and will not be reported until the final tally is revealed. There is some turnovers as the part has had to invalidate a thousand ballots because the ballots lacked signatures. There are 36 delegates at stake for the democrats. As for republicans, the caucus was cancelled in what is widely viewed as an effort to help President Trumps reelection be as smooth as possible. Bill weld is the only remaining candidate against trump. Weld got 9 of the vote in New Hampshire giving him one delegate and gar guaranteeing trump wont get all the delegates. Senior digital editor, julio ricardo, the cohost of the emmy nominated in the thick podcast, and author of the think piece democrat debate winners and losers, stereotypes won, latinos lost and davhow beatinp bloomberg has reinviglatiorated democratic field. Let me start with you because we have three days of analysis into the democratic debate, and i was acwatching it with twitte in one hand and the tv in front of me watching the criticism. They talked about the moderators need to be in here more. My sense was this was by far the most exciting debate that we have seen. Maybe a little bit of sparring here and there but as Lawrence Odonnell and Chris Matthews will tell you, this is politics. Thats okay to see that. We want to see people are fighters and worthy of being on the National Stage debate sglg a debating. And a lot of candidates depressed about the possibility they were going to be into a Bernie Bloomberg end game so soon, this was a sign of life, an opportunity to show voters, im still kicking here. A lot of hand ringing about this is saying democrats need to be unified not to show contrast misses the story of what happened in 2016 or 2018. Mean contested messy primaries often end in that partys person getting elected in the end, as long as the party can eventually unify. So the hand wringing is a little bit premature. The issue is how long it takes, whether it goes too late, whether youre running against trump, and it will be july before the democrats have a nominee. Thats the danger. It could go to the convention. To end up in the middle of july first having your candidate could be dangerous. Yeah, of course and the corollary to all of this is while the people who felt signs of life for the moderates, running to be the antiBernie Sanders, Bernie Sanders came out of the debate feeling great because the field is still split against him. Here in nevada, maybe South Carolina, certainly on super tuesday, hes going to continue to be able to build a delegate lead and make the case that maybe the convention shouldnt be contested because it looks more and more likely hes going to have a plurality of delegates. Julio, lets talk about latino vote. It is not a monolith, everybody tells us this. If we look back to the 2016 and 2012 elections, more than a quarter of the latino population voted for a republican candidate. Theres a very strong Republican Base amongst latinos, so democrats need to try and make end roads there and make sense for latinos, and you said that stereotypes won and latinos lost in the debate. Tell me why . Because, you know, there was the first big substantiative discussion was about naming the president of mexico, like that turned into all of a sudden latin america gets mentioned. Let me be clear, thats not a thing. It would nice if you could name the president of mexico, and Prime Minister of canada. And i heard the word latin america. Oh, here we go. Venezuela, puerto rico, maybe mexico. And it was like lets move on, and also just what i mentioned even when here in this state where actually immigration is an issue. With voters. Considering theres a lot of daca recipients, theres a lot of dreamers here, a lot of mixed status families, and the immigration question was buttigieg and klobuchar kind of sniping at each other, and everyone was sitting back going not me. And then there are the greater issues, the fact that people latinos in this country, its not all about latin american policy. Its not. Some of them its the same issues like all of us face, wages, the economy, basic issues. Right. And one of the big things about the population that people need to know, its more english dominant, more and more assimilated. Im not surprised about the 25 that trump gets because theres a lot of people when you mention, you know, Immigration Reform or anything, thats not me. Right, and thats the part where i do think trump, all trump needs to do is neutralize the vote and scream socialize, hell probably win florida. He has plenty of support here. One of the things, latinos for trump, the campaign is a mega church here in vegas, and theres a lot of people, evangelicals, theres, you know, faithbased latinos who are like trump is our guy, and immigration doesnt matter to me. Democrats need to do a better job waking up to the fact that actually more latinos lean democratic, youre talking about 65 , and give us a little bit more here, people. Gabe, what do you think has to happen today . A couple of things i think has to happen, we have to get results and it has to run relatively smoothly. Like iowa and New Hampshire, its small. The numbers in the grand total, you need 1991 to win on the first ballot. Going to get a handful, split between the delegates. What does success look like for a candidate coming out of nevada. It depends on the candidate, the point you made earlier, what we are talking about is the whole story of nevada. This is the first state that looks a little bit more demographically like the rest of the country. Its about sending a signal. If youre joe biden and having terrible results in the first two states, youre able to have a little bit of a comeback, its a signal to the country and especially the other candidates, the candidates standing at this race tonight and whenever the results come out are the ones who disappoint or have an ability to be intro speculative and say if i didnt do well in nevada, it probably means im not going to do well in california, texas, other big diverse states that represent the country. Every one of the people will be evaluating what is the path to getting a certain number of delegates and also how am i going to have enough money to stay in the race. If they dont overperform, theyre going to have to have that conversation with themselves in the next week. Are either of you expecting, whats your most unusual expectation about today, you know, whos going to surprise and whos going to disappoint . Thats a great question. If Bernie Sanders doesnt win it will be the biggest political upset of the election cycle in democratic, you know, modern political history. I dont expect sanders to lose. Tom steyer. Theres a lot of local people, if you look, he spent a lot. Theres a lot of local activists. I talked to people. The state director. He seems to residenonate. Hes kind of like the nice billionaire, as opposed to bloomberg. And biden, you know, who knows. I mean, i dont know second place cuts it for biden. Remember, sanders came in second place in 2016 and after that, clinton ran away with the primary and never caught up. Biden has to win, i think. What do you think, gabe . I was going to say tom steyer as well because he has been advertising so heavily here, and hes a lot stronger in South Carolina than people realize. But the other part im looking at here is Elizabeth Warren, obviously had a very strong debate, a lot of people are giving her another look. As was discussed so much of the early vote was banked by that point. Its very difficult to see whatever bump she gets. Well watch closely. Thank you to both of you, nprs senior digital editor, julio ricardo. Congressman ro khanna, a cochair of the Bernie Sanders campaign. The campaign also picked up the endorsement of Dick Van Dyke but the bigger news is sanders has been confirmed that he has been briefed by u. S. Intelligence officials about russias attempts to help his campaign. Congressman, good to see you. Thank you for being with us. Politics aside, this is a major issue, the idea that there seem to be some russian strategy involved in having Bernie Sanders be the candidate to run against donald trump when we know that theres been russian influence in favor of donald trump. What did oes that tell you . Its very concerning. Some of us have been sounding the alarm for years that our nation is still vulnerable to russian interference. Heres what we need to do. First, we need to pass Election Security legislation. Theres legislation to make sure that foreign agents cant advertise on social media, that we have paper ballots. Mitch mcconnell has held it up. Now we need to pass that. Second, i believe that intelligence officials need to come to the house of representatives and have hearings and brief the American Public on what the threat is without getting into classified information so that people are aware of the disinformation that we may face. What do you make of the fact that the seems unalarmed by the fact that the director of National Intelligence had a briefing with members of congress that suggested russia is back in the game, they never stopped being in the game after the 2016 election, and the president s response to that wasnt lets get a task force together, lets solve this problem, its democrats are going to use this against me in the election. Well, the president has been deflecting attention from a serious threat since he was elected and the problem is this is not something that affects republicans or democrats. It affects our democracy. We in the house passed hr 1 that actually tackles this election interference. It has been sitting on Mitch Mcconnells desk and he hasnt moved it, and i think people are right to be extraordinarily angry and frustrated and should demand that Congress Actually protect our elections. Congressman, what do you make of the idea that theres a strategy, if theres a russian strategy to help donald trump get elected and russians want Bernie Sanders to get the nomination, that they believe that Bernie Sanders would be their best bet against donald trump because donald trump would win. What do you make of that political argument . I dont think Vladimir Putin is smart enough to have that complex strategy. I think what they are doing is try to sow discord in american democracy. Misinformation, try to cause doubt in our e lelectoral process. There is a fix for this. We can have paper ballots. We can have Election Security. We can have better laws and coordination with social Media Companies to prevent foreign actors from having disInformation Campaigns to prevent them from advertising. The problem is that congress isnt acting. The republicans arent acting and thats what we ought to be talking about. How do we prevent this. Thats what bob mueller warned us about. Congressman, can Bernie Sanders do more about the stuff that is going on in social media and his campaign . Youre a cochair, youre not one of those people who sort of tweets nasty stuff, but there has been some stuff he was confronted about this in the debate, he said its volunteers, its people he doesnt want. If people are hostile on social media, he wants to disavow himself, but its actually some people who are in the campaign, many of whom are paid. Let me be very clear. I have Great Respect for the other democratic contenders and Bernie Sanders and we unequivocally denounce any comments online that are harassing, that are bullying that are making people feel uncomfortable. That doesnt represent the best of democracy. That doesnt represent Bernie Sanders, and we dont want it. We condemn it unequivocally. Congressman let me talk about one of the issues thats going to be really big here, is health care. Bernie sanders has a remarkable and comprehensive plan for universal health care, something that i have often talked about with wonder that the United States is the only, the biggest and the standout major economy that doesnt have some form of universality in health care. That has helped label him as afta socialist. Whats the way out of that. Whats the way around that to tell people, even here, union members, that they may really like their hard fought health care but universal health care is a better idea . Ali, it comes down to a fundamental belief. Is health care a basic right. We have believed that a Democratic Party that it is for 75 years, going back to fdr and harry tr harry truman. They were the first to push for a Single Payer Health system, people dont have deductibles, copays, high premiums. Jimmy carter ran and won on Single Payer Health care. Ted kennedy, we have had candidates like Harris Woford win pennsylvania on Single Payer Health care. Bernie sanders is talking about doing something that has been the aspiration of our party for 75 years. Let me be clear with the unions. The plan is a fouryear transition. So most of the union plans will be grandfathered in because Union Contracts last for only three years. A, they will have health care and then they can bargain for better wages and better working conditions. Congressman, good to see you, thank you for joining us. Democratic congressman and Bernie Sanders campaign cochair representative ro khanna coming from oakland. Thank you, sir. Stay with msnbc for coverage of the nevada caucus, and starting at 2 00 p. M. Eastern, join brian williams, joy wallace, joy reid and our panel of political experts as nevada voters weigh in on the race for the white house. Its predawn in las vegas and im going to be with you again after dark because a whole lot of people think counting todays votes could become a fiasco like iowa. Nevada democrats hope thats not going to happen. Were going to talk about the scramble to make sure every vote is counted and on time as velshi continues live from las vegas. snoring whats going on . Its the 3pm slump. Should have had a p3. Oh yeah. Should have had a p3. Need energy . Get p3. With a mix of meat, cheese and nuts. Looking to repair dry, damaged hair without weighing it down . Try pantene daily moisture renewal conditioner. Its colorsafe formula uses smart conditioners to microtarget damage helping to repair hair without weighing it down. Try pantene. And i dont count the wrinkles. 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Democratic front runner Bernie Sanders is warning putin not to meddle in our elections after multiple reports suggest that russias strategy to help reelect President Trump is by interfering in the democratic primaries and boosting the Sanders Campaign. Now, we dont know yet if the russians have any new tactics. After 2016, its clear that online disInformation Campaigns are at the center of their efforts to undermine our democracy. Trump who has accused democrats of working to rig the election against sanders is once again down playing russias influence. I was told a week ago, they said, you know, theyre trying to start a rumor, its disinformation. Thats the only thing theyre good at. Theyre not good at anything else. They get nothing done. Do nothing democrats. That putin wants to make sure i get elected. Listen to this, so doesnt he want to see who the democrats going to be. Wouldnt he rather have, lets say, wouldnt he rather have bernie. Joining me now is nbcs ben collins an early facebook investor, and author of the zucked now out in paperback. Ben, lets start with you. Do we know what russian tactics were talking about here . Theres a political angle to this. It seems the russians would like to see Bernie Sanders be the candidate against donald trump because that helps the goal in their opinion of getting donald trump elected. Do we know what theyre doing, what the fbi told sanders theyre actually up to. We dont know but we can intuit based on the information we know from 2016 and bot researchers right now. Josh russell who is an independent researcher in indiana who covers this stuff, bots are not the think this time. Theyre not driving automated accounts to these people. What we can probably assume just like 2016, they have troll accounts posing as americans trying to stir up divides, trying to bring each party to the most extreme position and riling up bases to get angry at people within the party and outside of the party. Thats what happened in 2016. They made some Bernie Sanders accounts in the primary because they did not want Hillary Clinton to be the nominee. Now, that, you know, those accounts evolved over time to be trump supporting. That was the larger scale operation that they were trying to pull off, but you know, thats what we can intuit based on this so far. We dont have hard evidence yet, because the Intelligence Community has not let it out. Were going to seek it out. Thats what the next few weeks will be. We dont know exactly what theyre looking at. Roger, as we follow this, as we should follow this, you want to point out that there are two things we should be looking at, whether theres outside influence on the internet, disInformation Campaigns that are meant to be supportive of Bernie Sanders, so that he gets nomination, meant to be supportive of donald trump winning the election but you warned that in both of those campaigns theres a whole separate thing going on, stuff from inside the campaign that is also designed to do similar things. Ali, i think what happened in 2016 is the russians seeded disInformation Campaigns on behalf of trump and sanders that became organic. Think about this, how much resentment remains on both sides, and i think thats really what has fueled the supporters and on the sanders side you still hear people complaining about 2016 just as you do in trump events. What the russians seeded has become an organic process in the case of sanders, George Washington university has reported a network of 2,800 facebook pages. 1843 facebook groups, amplified them and those are run by americans who are true believers in Bernie Sanders who may have at one time been motivated by russian input but which now operate totally independently. To me the really big things, i think americans have to step back and go wait a minute, are we going to determine who our elected officials are or not because i am personally disappointed in senator sanders for two things. One is not bringing up the fact that hes known about this for a month. In my mind, what did he think was going to happen. This is the kind of stuff that needs to be disclosed instantly, and same with President Trump. The second issue is he should be looking at these networks and going, you know, he needs to bring the Party Together. Sanders can do much better by getting rid of all of the hate speech and all of the other kinds of bernie bro behaviors going on in those networks. That is not helping him. Its not helping the party. But its for sure helping putin. And i got to point out, i get bernie active on twitter and get involved in discussions with supporters of all the candidates and there are some great conversations to be had. Absolutely. With Bernie Sanders supporters as there are with supporters of all the other candidates but sometimes it can get a little rough and rugly. Thats also okay but sometimes theres dishonesty spread. You have been reporting on the fact that twitter is making a move starting the beginning of march to identify those things that are actually dishonest coming from campaigns or skp misleading coming or misleading coming from campaigns and youll see it on your twitter feed. March 5th. Twitter is going to identify things that are false, manipulative media from politicians, things that go viral, and otherwise would go unchecked. Right now, you know, things skew towards fear and resentment and all of the things that help out foreign disInformation Campaigns. Thats what the point of it is to divide parties and make it so there is some incentive for candidates to get ugly, right. When its sort of marked by a Scarlet Letter or Something Like that on twitter, its not going to help to be, like, objectively wrong about stuff. You know, i think generally, too, there is a difference between what bernie is doing and what trump is doing here. You know, trump said, you know, like russia, please go hack Hillary Clintons emails, right. That is a wholly different thing than we heard from senator sanders. Those are two different things. Platforms can crack down on this. Im telling you, twitter is trying. Facebook is not. Just not trying. And i think that we i think people have to start to understand, like, theres going to be two different sets of rules for two different social networks, one is much smaller. Facebook, a lot of this is going to happen in the dark and pretty much unchecked. I think your point there is very valid. Bernie sanders is out there saying he doesnt want this stuff. Donald trump actually retweets misinformation and things he knows to be disinformation. However, roger youre a little concerned about some of the ways in which twitter is going to go about identifying misleading information. To me the core issue and ben has gotten to the heart of it, they are going to start by attacking things but they have proposed the possibility of leaning into the community to determine which things are misinformation and which are not, which is a system we learned in 2016 is really easily gamed. This is the core thing we have to get down to. Ben made this point a moment ago. Facebook is not only not helping right here. They have changed their strategy relative to, you know, false alalds and things like that. Its that huge problem and people should be up in arms. We should be screaming about it. You have been doing that. You have done it in a book. Ronler mcnamee, author of zucked. Ben collins thank you for joining me so early this morning. How one of nevadas Largest Labor union could halt the momentum bernie has been building. The fight between the senator and the powerful Culinary Union over the Sanders Health care plan. Cut. Liberty biberty cut. Well dub it. Liberty mutual customizes your Car Insurance so you only pay for what you need. Only pay for what you need. Liberty. Liberty. Liberty. Liberty. When the murrays head to work. Their dog michelangelo gets to work, too. Todays job . Own. The. Bed. Stinkeee. Good thing they use new gain ultraflings with two times the oxi boost and febreze, for ultrabig, ultrastinky loads. Fresh again. Gain. Seriously good scent. And if you love gain flings, youve gotta try the dish soap. Vo for president. Ver thats Mike Bloomberg. A middle class kid who built a Global Company from scratch. Mayor of new york, rebuilding the city after the 911 terrorist attack, creating 450,000 jobs. Running for president and on a roll. Workable plans to deliver on Better Health care. Affordable college. Job creation. Common sense plans to beat trump, fix the chaos in washington, and get things done. Mike im Mike Bloomberg and i approve this message. I wouldnt even be up on this stage if it wasnt for unions and the dignity of work. Trump thinks that wall street and the super rich built this country. They didnt build this country. The middle class built this country. Unions built americas middle class give them a chance and unions will rebuild americas middle class. Here in las vegas, democrats have set their sights on working class americans begging the question, how much value do unions provide, not just to candidates but to their membership. In 1911, 146 workers, 129 of them women, were killed in a factory fire that burned through several floors of the triangle shirt Waste Company in new york city. Most deaths could have been prevents leading to the movement to fight for better working conditions. President roosevelt signed the fair labor standards act which gave workers the ability to negotiate collectively for better working conditions, fair pay for 40hour work weeks and extra pay for working overtime. Unions took a big hit in 1947 after republicans in Congress Passed the tafthartley act that allowed businesses to ban strikes and boycotts, and permitting unions to donate to political campaigns. Union organization grew, hitting its peak in 1954. 35 of americans were unionized. That drop has been precipitous. Latest numbers show a 25 decrease, now standing at 10. 3 . Thats the lowest on record since 1983. So why the decline in membership . Well, in 1981, president Ronald Reagan fired more than 11,000 air Traffic Controllers who went on strike for a pay increase and lesser hours. That was seen as the death nail for the leverage of strikes and walkouts but there have been some victories for the Labor Movement since. In 2018, teachers struck across the country in places like west virginia, oklahoma, kentucky, arizona, colorado, and North Carolina gave educators big wins with pay increases, concessions or increased budget plans, but even with those recent union victories, the urgency for workers to join a union doesnt exist the way it used to, and according to the wall street journal, Union Memberships hit a record low losing 170,000 members in 2019. The New York Times argues that labor laws are broken because President Trumps administration is quote hamstringing union activism. 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I am totally blind. And non24 can throw my days and nights out of sync, keeping me from the things i love to do. Talk to your doctor, and call 8442142424. Let me be very clear for my good friends in the culinary workers union, a great union. I will never sign a bill that will reduce the Health Care Benefits they have. We will only expand it for them, for every union in america, and for the working class of this country. Welcome back. Were talking about nevadas union workers. Joining me now is detailer, the International President of unite here. That is the national arm of the union that is the Culinary Union here in las vegas. So he knows a lot about this. I want to continue this conversation about one of the biggest things, unions in this country have fought for wages and proper working hours, safe working conditions and health care. Health care has probably been one of the biggest bites, every union leader tells me that every negotiation really centers around in large part health care. Its always a point of contention because its money. Whether its pension, health care, wages, working conditions. So Bernie Sanders says he wants a plan that, he was speaking to the culinary workers, that is better than what they have. And ultimately, coming from a place with Single Payer Health care like every other developed country in the world, it is always ultimately better, right, everybody whos not covered gets covered and everybody has ultimate choice, you can go to any doctor at any hospital. Whats the push back from your membership . Well, our union is a broad union. Some people are very much, great, thats wonderful. Because we have workers who dont have Good Health Insurance or have no insurance at all. Thats why we had a fight with airline catering. Then we have people in las vegas. Where they have a very Good Health Care plan. The folks here, the locals here say listen, we just want to have a choice. We just want to have a choice. If its as good as advertised, great, but if its not we want to have the option to keep our plan. Medicare for all as proposed by Bernie Sanders gives everybody equal choice. Under his plan, wed have to discuss how its executed but under a Single Payer Health care system like i come from in canada, one can go to any doctor at any hospital anywhere in the country. Well, i think the folks here have said, how is that going to happen, weve heard all kinds of promises in the past, you know, sort of where is the meat behind that. At the same time, if its as good as he advertises or whomever advertises, thats a no brainer. Our folks feel like, you know, a housekeeper or a cook, a cocktail waitress, theyre smart people. Let them make their own choices, you know, the woman who runs our local here said i always thought democrats were prochoice, not antichoice, they just want to have that option. Do you think you might have been fooled by the advertising that suggests or maybe its Bernie Sanders not doing a good enough job or Elizabeth Warren not doing a good enough of job of saying Single Payer Health care and universal health care in every other country in the world is about choice. Absolutely. No one ever talks about choice. I actually think that health care should be a right. I think its outrageous in this country. Its not a question of that. Im glad this question on Health Care Debate which has been raised here got lifted up. At the same time, i think that people who have been on strike here, for example, six years or nine months or have fought like hell for their benefits, theyre not just going to say, go ahead, politician, you can just take it. Right. Is there some of that there, that ownership that i have been in leadership, i have been in a union for so long and i own this health care. Its like somebody said to me, velshi, were going to change all the graphics on all the shows to one thing because its more effective and im saying, what are you talking about, we worked really hard to have our look and our feel and our name on our show. Well, people have to pay for their prescription drugs tomorrow or go to the doctor tomorrow, they dont think about two years from now, and i think whats happened, not just with our union, people in general who have insurance, i know what i have. Now, some people dont have it or its crappy, and thank god we have this conversation about having health care for all. But people have Good Health Insurance are like, hold on one second. I want to keep mine. If youve got a product thats better later, great. Well consider it. More detail needed. A little more detail about whats going on over here. Do you often have rain . Well, about once a month. Okay. We got the lucky day then. Good to see you. Thank you so much. Thank you for being with me. Coming up. The power of the president ial pardon. President trump issued seven pardons this past week to high profile felons and theres a chance that long time trump ally roger stone could get pardoned next. Well take a look at the trumpian process by which pardons are handed out when velshi returns in las vegas. Pra. It cleans grease five times faster. New dawn powerwash. Spray, wipe, rinse. Excuse me. Uh. Do you mind. Being a motour . What could be better than being a motour . The real question is. Do you mind not being a motour . I do. For those who were born to ride, theres progressive. I do. 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Thats not exactly how it went, but anyway, in all, donald trump granted clemency to four people and pardons to seven others this week. Other high profile felons receiving pardons, Bernie Carrick and eddie debartolo, the former owner of the sfan francisco 49ers. All eleven recipients had an inside connection or were promoted on fox news. This morning we thought wed take a look at the history of the pardon. It can be traced back to about 1754 bc and the code of hamarabi, the 6th backboking. He gave the rule ore king the ability to forgive crimes of citizens when warranted. In ancient greece, 403 bc, the power of the pardon rested with the people. To receive amnesty, the individual had to collect 6,000 signatures from fellow citizens. Lets move to Medieval Times now, 1,400 ad, the power of the pardon was divided between the church and rulers, kings offered pardons as a vehicle to raise cash or enlist military service, and in American History, Alexander Hamilton introduced p pardon in the federalist papers writing without an easy access to exceptions in favor of unfortunate guilt, justice would wear a countenance too sanguineary and cruel. Washington issued pardons to members of the whiskey rebellion in 1759. Lincoln issued dozens of pards to confederate soldiers for civil war related offenses and the infamous or famous pardon in American History blonlelonged t president gerald ford, september 8th, 1974, he pardoned Richard Nixon after his resignation because of the watergate scandal saying nixon had suffered enough. Joining us john allen, National Political reporter for nbc news and coauthor of shattered inside Clinton Clintons doomed campaign and carol lam. Thank you for being here. John, lets talk about what this may be, the idea that donald trump is revving up the pardons generally speaking in some cases issuing them to people who will only generate interest and controversy for a few days. Michael mikken has been acting like a guy without conviction for years. Will this soften up the party or raise some feathers . Kanye west and Kim Kardashian west ask for a pardon for somebody hell use in a political campaign, who may generate more public sympathy for their case, and then you see pardons like Michael Milken and hes philanthropic. At the same time he made people wealthy like the guy nelson pelts who held a huge fundraiser for donald trump the weekend before the pardon was issued, so big couples had to pay over half a Million Dollars to go, it raised 10 million for the president s Reelection Campaign. I dont know if you could have a bigger advertisement for if youd like your friend that made you rich to get a pardon, please donate money to me. Right. And carol, when you look at the interview with Rod Blagojevich or when he came out of prison and gave a comment, this political prisoner thing. Lets be clear. You might not think that he deserved the sentence he got but it wasnt, he wasnt railroaded. No, he wasnt railroaded. He went through a jury trial and convicted by a jury. The judge sentenced him and he lost his appeal. There are a lot of aspects to whats going on thats troubling and lets be clear. The president has unfettered authority to grant pardons but remember that the one power a president doesnt have is the power to put somebody in jail, but this is the flipside of the coin. The president can let people out of jail or he can commute their sentences, and so in a case like Rod Blagojevich, you have a situation where the president is just saying basically i think this guy got too much time and is he entitled to do that, but generally speaking, those types of decisions are reserved for people who acknowledge their crimes. Right. And have basically accepted that they did something wrong. Saying youre a political prisoner or Dinesh Desouza continues to say he was railroaded thats not going with president ial pards, ons. He pardoned some people who might get public support or right would like to see pardoned like sheriff arpaio and most people are wondering how does this affect roger stone, Paul Manafort and mike flynn . Hell get advice telling him wait until after the election. If you lose youre a lame duck, you can do whatever you want, if you win you got another term, could you do whatever you want. It will be interesting to see whether he pardons ma in a fort, stone and flynn before the next election. Even blagojevich the crimes that blagojevich was most famous for or sort of the substance of that case was around trying to sell a senate seat. Right. So the president sees some mirror image in the exercise of politics and you got blagojevich coming out and like im a political prisoner as though he was fighting to end apartheid in south africa, a russian dissident flung out to siberia. He had the power to appoint someone to Barack Obamas vacated seat. Exactly and he wanted to get paid for that or wanted to get a position in government from that and look, these things have happened the president s right, that there is often a horse trade that goes along with Something Like a senate seat. The problem is there are too twoproblems, one looking for cash or some sort of financial reimbursement for yourself, a personal gain from it rather than a political trade, ill appoint this person to the senate and i get appointed to this other thing or somebody else that i like gets appointed, thats Something Different and the other piece thats different about it isxplicitness of it. Its not the only thing that matters. You heard the president say about his russia phone call theres no quid pro quo. Carol is a prosecutor, she can tell you there are so many other things that show what that call was about that you dont need that quid pro quo there. Right. Blagojevich actually said those things so it was so much clearer. Carol, how do prosecutors think about those things . You know there are pardons. Every president does them. There have been thousands per presidency. How do you think about it . Does it undermine the work of prosecutors . Is there an amount of time that makes it okay that all right, thats what president s can do . What does pardoning these people do to the legal system . Of course for a prosecutor, who spent a lot of time on a prosecution, it can be a little demoralizing when theres a pardon, but prosecutors accept thats the president s power. Where it can really undermine a prosecuto prosecutors work is in a situation where you feel that its being useds as currency with someone youre currently prosecuting as in the palm ma in a fort and roger stone situations where theres this feeling theres something that the president who is personally involved in w these scenarios that these men are being prosecuted for, where the president might be dangling the possibility of a pardon out there. These pardons may be backdrop for whats going on with somebody like roger stone. And might be an incentive for them not to cooperate with the prosecution and not enter into a plea bargain. Thats the danger thank you so both of you for being with me on this Early Morning on the west coast. Thank you, carol, who came in from l. A. And john as always, thanks. I think ill be seeing you more today. Yes, absolutely. 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There are 36 pledged delegates at stake today for the democrats, still a tiny percentage of the 1991 delegates that a candidate needs to clinch the nomination on the first ballot. The candidates have spent a significant amount of money here in an effort to win as many delegates as possible and the latest Campaign Finance report showed how much money is already involved in the democratic race, with three candidates surpassing 100 million spent. Joining me is one of the big spenders 2020 president ial candidate tom steyer. Among the democrats hes currently second in total fundraising, second in total spending, and second in cash on hand, but as of now, zero delegates in the bag. Tom, you are hoping that this is where the game changes for you in a meaningful way. Ali, this is a new race. As you said, now were starting to get into the states that reflect the diversity of the United States and the diversity of the Democratic Party. So i think for anyone who wants to actually pull his Party Together across all the different ways, were a big tent thank goodness, were a very diverse party, this is the first chance for people to show they can pull this Party Together and put together the kind of coalition, including black people and latinos and native americans and asianamericans as well as white people that we need to win in november. So ive talked about this for a long time. I want our viewers to understand why looking at you really rich white guy, youre the guy who is going to be more reflective of the face of america as they vote in nevada and South Carolina. Whats the argument . What about you makes you the Coalition Builder . Look, the funny thing about this whole thing, and believe me, i know im white, but in fact, if you look at my ability to get voters in the africanAmerican Community, in the latino community, asianAmerican Community, native American Community as well as white people actually i talk directly to those issues. Im the person in this race, the only one i believe who will say that he or she is for reparations for slavery, im someone who worked on immigration on a personal basis welcoming people to the United States for 35 years. I have a history, we start, my wife and i started a Nonprofit Bank 15 years ago specifically to support businesses owned by black people, latinos and women, because the Financial Services industry is so prejudiced and discriminatory. So actually i have a decades long history of working with those groups in those communities with and for them for a long time and its resonating. Just before the show i asked you, theres two views of debate on wednesday night. Some said it was a circular firing squad and others it was energizing. Thank you Michael Bloomberg for getting everybodys Blood Pressure up. The person who won that debate was donald trump. What people have forgotten is what we need to do is show the American People that we have something much better than mr. Trump. Hes running on the economy. Hes a liar and a fake. In fact, his economy i call it the maralago economy. Its growing but all the money is going to rich people. There are jobs, but you cant live on the jobs that this economy produces and when he talks about how the stock market is doing well, most people dont own stocks. Im talking about a 10 tax cut for everybody who makes less than 250,000 bucks. Im talking about creating literally millions and millions of good paying union jobs because we have to rebuild this country in a Climate Smart way and 7. 25 minimum wage, ali, do the math. Yes. You cant live on that. Ive been fighting for 15 an hour since 2012 when i was picketing mcdonalds, and actually i think it should be 22 bucks that, would be a fair minimum wage. Were talking about a completely different split of the money in this economy under what im talking about. Mr. Trump keeps saying, and i go on fox news and i get in a fight with the anchor every single time. Youre kidding me, you dont think the economy is good . Not for working people. Quinn nipiac came out with a survey, number one issue is economy, health care second, climate is a distant third. Amongst democrats its climate and health care. For people who think the economy is the Biggest Issue in the swing states are believing Donald Trumps rhetoric about a great economy. If you come down from mars and look at the economy, gdp and stock price and Property Values are good, Interest Rates are low. What is the disconnect . What youre talking about is an average. You know the old saying on average, i feel pretty good. My feet are in the oven, my head is in the ice box. If you look at the numbers the money is going 100 to rich people and has for 40 years. Trump gave the biggest tax cut in history to really rich people and big corporations and hes now saying he blew up the deficit, swore hed balance the budget, we have a trillion dollar deficit and saying after the election im going after medicare, medicaid and social security. This guy is terrible for working people in the United States. Just terrible. And no one will stand up to him. Im the only guy or woman in this race who is saying i want trump on this stage and ill destroy him on the economy because hes a liar. You didnt see folks wednesday night going up against trump . Look, i i understand you want to be that guy. Im not saying i want to, im saying im the person who can do the two things that the Democratic Candidates cant, one, take him on, on the economy, i started a business from scratch, i know a heck of a lot more economics than donald trump. I can go way farther than he can and hes lying. This economy isnt working for working people and yes, of course people, he keep saying it and no one contradicts him. Secondly you got to pull this Party Together. What i saw on wednesday night is the question about does the Democratic Party go like that, the old saying we must all hang together or surely we will all hang separately, this party has got to come together across racial and ethnic lines but also pull together the people across the spectrum. Im a progressive. We need someone who can do that and take a look and think about who can pull this Party Together and who can take on trump on the stage on the economy, and i can do both of them. Tom, thank you for being with us. We hope to talk to you later on today after we start to get some results, if we do. I know youre staking a lot on nevada and South Carolina. So well continue this conversation as always. Thank you. Ali velshi, nice to see you. 2020 president ial candidate tom steyer. Stay with msnbc throughout the day. We have special coverage of the nevada caucus at 2 00 p. M. Eastern time. Brian williams, nicole wallace, Chris Matthews, ari melber, joy reid and Political Panel of experts nevada voters weighing in for the race for the white house. Im going to be watching, im going to be sleeping for a little bit of it so i can get a little rest because ill be back with you at 11 00 p. M. Eastern tonight. We are sort of hoping that by that time, 11 00 eastern, we are going to have some results. There are some rumblings that we may not, depending who you ask. Some people say i dont know if its going to happen. They were going to use the app they used in iowa. They are not using that but they are using a calculator and theyve hired an entire call center so that results can come in. Meanwhile, democrats are desperate not to repeat the disaster that was the iowa caucus. In addition to the dnc taking a much more handson approach, the nevada state democrats have hired as i mentioned a professional call center with 200 paid operators and dedicated reporting lines to help take in the results. Theyve also scrapped similar plans to use that app that was used in iowa. There are 2,099 precincts in nevada but only 252 caucus sites, meaning some are hosting as many as two dozen precincts at one caucus site. That should allow for officials to monitor things more easily. Could create some confusion. Joining me here on set, on the Las Vegas Strip the editor of the nevada current hugh jackson. Will nevada get a victory speech, and executive director of planned action, laura martin member of the National Coalition of 100 black women, las vegas. Thank you for having us. What are you anticipating happens today . Well see now that its raining but what were excited about at plan action weve trained a lot of people to know how to caucus and be excited about it. A lot of our leaders will be site leaders and precinct captain, a lot of formerly incarcerated people. We passed a law during this nevada caucus there will be 80,000 more people eligible to vote and so were excited for a lot of people who are going to be caucusing for the first time and we saw through early voting what the Democratic Party announced more than half of the early voters had caucused for the first time ever. 74,000 people in early voting, that last caucus in 2016 there were 80,000 people in total. Yes. 2008, i believe it was a big turnout here, record turnout, 120,000 people. Are you clear on whats happening today . Most people who are going to caucus caucused and see smaller turnout today and still turns out to be good numbers or do you think were seeing bigger numbers today . I dont know. I live in vegas but not a gambler or good guesser. I hope so. The Progressive Leadership Alliance in nevada who i work for we want to deepen democracy. We want everybody to participate. Feels like democracy. People remind me theres nothing wrong with coming here, negotiating with people like you do in a caucus. Its unusual, maybe antiquated but interesting way of doing politics. Like we said when we train our leaders we say youre voting with your body. Youre meeting with your neighbors, maybe people you met for the first time but negotiating voting with your buddy and literally standing with who you support. Kind of neat. Hugh . Yes. Im going to be back here at 11 00 p. M. Eastern, 8 00 p. M. Pacific time. Do you think ill have something to say about who won this caucus in. I hope so. The democrats say theyre going to muscle out some results today. Theyre insisting theyre going to do that and well see what time of day it is. Hopefully look, caucuses, i couldnt disagree with you more with respect to how quaint and charming caucuses are. Theyre incredibly antidemocratic. There are so many barriers. Theyre time specific. Time specific and people cant get off their jobs and this type of stuff but also you know, they are run by the state party and i think this is something that maybe a lot of people around the country dont realize. These are not run by the government. Nevada New Hampshire its run by the government. And nevada is actually quite good at running elections, government officials are. Right. Weve got this ferrari in the garage meanwhile we have this clunking system thats going on and going to come up with like you say, i hope some results today. Laura, you mentioned something about formerly incarcerated workers and also got dreamers involved in the political process. One in five people in nevada are foreign born. We have a big number who benefit from the daca program or sometimes people call them dreamers. A caucus is undemocratic but it is volunteerled so there will be a lot of dreamers all over nevada, providing translation in spanish, whatever people need so i think thats why the quaintness that i see in it is that everybody has a chance to participate. It is not democratic. You cant participate if you dont have child care, you work somewhere that doesnt have predictive scheduling, if you dont have transportation there and back but it is getting better, and bigger. The early vote helped with the turnout numbers. Hugh, thats one big benefit, days and days of early voting. Seems to have worked. Very much to the nevada Democratic Partys credit they decided to do this, the first time im aware of anybody tried voting early in a caucus. One thing if 5,000 people showed up and then 74,000. The other foot on that, are they going to have the early votes counted and be able to assign them where they need to be assigned today . Thats going to be interesting to watch. But you know, laura was talking about the different types of economic problems. Some of them are economic problems that prohibit people from voting, and one thing that i do want to say is, there is a lot of National Attention about nevada is the first diverse state and thats absolutely true. But there are a lot of reasons why nevada should be an early state, and one of them has to do with diversity, that is the structure of this economy. You had tom steyer talking about gdp growing. In nevada, the state gdp has grown. Median Household Income in nevada is actually lower now than it was before the thats the story. Gdp grows and stock markets grow and donald trump brags about that, Median Income and im going to show a chart of this, i dont know if my control room has it now, Median Income for decades remains the same. And the wage growth in nevada has been among the third lowest by some accounts in the country. Right. So when you talk about nevada being reflective of the country, you have so many people that it precarious jobs, parttime work, without solid scheduling, without solid wages and reliable benefits or maybe no benefits at all. The culinary has gotten a lot of attention from the media, and make no mistake, the consumer core in this town would be much less powerful if not for the culinary and wages and benefits they earned over the years. Right. That 60,000 people youve got maybe another quarter Million People that are working in food service accommodation, retail, home care, these are also some of the Fastest Growing jobs, not just in nevada but in the country, and everyone talks like mr. Steyer and every politician in nevada talks about we need to create these exciting new jobs of tomorrow. The jobs projected to grow the most are the jobs weve already got and we have to start dealing with that. Right. I feel that frankly the National Media and the candidates have failed to spotlight nevada and how it reflects those issues in the way that it should have been done. I just want to put this on. This is what youre sort of referring to, hugh. Ive got this from 1964, this is u. S. Average hourly wages since 1964. You look at the chart on the bottom and that shows how theyve increased from 2. 50 to 22. 65. Now weve adjusted it for inflation and thats the top line. Adjusted for inflation the wage in 1964 was 20. 27 an hour and today it is 22. 65 an hour, and that, laura is the issue. You have a state full of wage earning, we talk about union but put aside the word union for a while. You got service jobs wage earning people and that is the story of their lives. Yes, right now were on the Las Vegas Strip surrounded by service and retail jobs but the truth of the economy is, the rising tides have lifted the big ships and drowned out the rest of the bottom. Nevada is also a state that has growing income inequality, and its something the next president has to serious lay dress. Its not enough just to say the stock market. You have to look at everyone else working to make the businesses run. Youre absolutely right. Thanks to both of you, hugh jackson and laura martin, i appreciate it. Michael bloomberg under fire, the onslaught of troubling headlines hitting the former new york city mayor from ndas to a disastrous debate performance. 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Michael bloomberg needs to do a blanket release so all women who have been muzzled by nondisclosure agreements can step up and tell their side of the story. Senator Elizabeth Warren is reacting to Michael Bloombergs decision to release three women from nondisclosure agreements telling nbc news its not enough. Bloombergs top political adviser responded to be clear three is the total number of ndas that have been i. D. d over 30plus years pertaining directly to mike. Despite President Trumps own allegations of mistreatment of women, the daily beast is reporting the president s Reelection Campaign plans to attack bloomberg on the issue with those familiar with the strategy saying it would be great for depressing democratic turnout particularly with young voters, should bloomberg win the nomination. Joining me is the former mayor of philadelphia nutter supporting mayor bloomberg. Ndas have come under a great deal of criticism including at the company i work for, nbc news. There have been a lot of calls for women subject to ndas. Seems like a layup. What Michael Bloomberg did isnt what Elizabeth Warren and joe biden were calling for on the stage. Do you think this is enough or does he have to do more . Well he certainly took direct action again as it relates to any of the ndas that specifically involved him, which he is able to do. Were in a political environment obviously, ali, so for other candidates, nothing would pretty much ever be enough because they think that they can score points. The main issue is mike took direct action on the things can he take action on because he was involved in. He did take direct action and went farther in changing the policy of the company stating that as long as he can in charge of the company, there will not be any ndas Going Forward involving either Sexual Harassment or other inappropriate workplace activity. There are very few companies to my knowledge that have that kind of policy in place. He is an executive and leader and thats what leaders do. But it should, the leadership part of this is the interesting part. Youre right, there are a lot of companies that dont ban ndas or allow that to happen. Most of wall street has ndas but the fact is, its 2020. Shouldnt we not be doing that . Companies evolve all the time. There is a different environment now that may have existed many years ago and so companies, all companies would have to, will have to adjust. Lets pretend this part of the conversation isnt on camera, pretend me its you and me having a conversation. Okay. I ask you after the debate wednesday night, what happened to your guy . Not his best night, not our best night as a campaign organization, first time on the debate stage with five other very experienced recently experienced candidates in an environment where everyone took multiple shots at mike. I was doing a count so i could keep track of what was going on there, and i think that he just didnt take advantage of the opportunity to tell his story, to talk about his record, to respond both to the attacks but also be on offense to talk about things that he wanted to. I was thinking about this, and of course you know, ali, that politics is a full contact sport. You know, Kansas City Chiefs did win the super bowl, but they didnt go 160. They had a couple games im sure andy reid wished he could have had back. Michael did much better on tuesday. I think he got better on wednesday as the evening wore on, so lets say not a great first quarter, got a little time on the break, and then finished strongly in the latter part of wednesday nights debate. Hell do much better on tuesday. Mike nutter, well come out of the secret part of this conversation and pretend were back on tv. Good to see you, former philadelphia mayor. That was interesting. Former bloomberg cochair. Michael bloomberg later this afternoon will sit down with the reverend al sharpton and discuss his performance at the debate, efforts to reach black voters, the controversial ndas and more, today 5 00 p. M. On politics nation here on msnbc. I was last here in las vegas two and a half years ago after the deadliest mass shooting in modern American History and like every mass shooting, congress has done virtually nothing thereafter. That doesnt actually mean things havent changed a lot. Ill have that next. Sleep this amazing . Thats a zzzquil pure zzzs sleep. Our gummies contain a unique botanical blend, while an optimal melatonin level means no nextday grogginess. Zzzquil pure zzzs. Naturally superior sleep. Thats ensure max protein, with high protein and 1 gram sugar. Its a situp, banana bend at the waist im tryin keep it up. Youll get there. Whoahoahoa 30 grams of protein, and one gram of sugar. Ensure max protein. Doprevagen is the number oneild mempharmacistrecommendeding . 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Every one of those times stretching back to sandy hook shooting we were told by politicians amid the thoughts and prayers things would change but sometimes it often seems when it comes to this country and its fraught relationship with guns, nothing will change. Theres a disconnect between over whelming will of the people for common sense gun laws and the actions of our federal government. 60 of american citizens support some sort of gun control. 71 of americans favor the banning of high capacity magazines. 82 of republicans and 93 of democrats favor stricter background checks at gun shows. Trump for his part tends to talk the talk following a mass shooting for a few days or at least until he gets a call from Wayne Lapierre at the nra and he starts saying guns dont kill people, people kill people. I am and a responsible gun owner who has no issue whatsoever with laws that will keep people safer. Just because congress hasnt passed meaningful Gun Legislation in more than 25 years it doesnt mean there hasnt been any especially lately, right here. Nevada has taken steps toward sensible gun control banning bump stocks used in the las vegas massacre. Its enacted red flags for those who may be a danger to themselves and enforced safe storage of guns. 17 states have enacted red flag laws and seven have passed assault weapons bans. Weve seen individual states take action time and again after horrific tragedies. Weve seen the amazing kids from parkland stand up and say enough is enough. These laws are not contrary to the second amendment. They are about common sense and modern needs. Most gun deaths in america are not a result of mass shootings. Theyre suicides. Most perpetrators of gun vials sh show signs ahead of time. The number of families affected by gun violence continues to rise at a rate unmatched by any other nation. The nra is a protection racket for republican legislators. 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The Washington Post is reporting that officials have uncovered russian efforts to help senator Bernie Sanders win the democratic nomination but notes its still unclear exactly how the russians are interfering. Wired argued this shouldnt be seen as an endorsement of sanders but indeed as an endorsement of chaos. Sanders reaction to the news differs from trumps response. Take a listen. Mr. Putin is a thug. He is an autocrat. He may be a friend of Donald Trumps. Hes not a friend of mine. Russia, if youre listening, i hope youre able to find the 30,000 emails that are missing. I think you will probably be rewarded. The Intelligence Community has been very clear about it. They did interfere in 2016. The Intelligence Community is telling us they are interfering in this campaign. I have great confidence in my intelligence people but i will tell you that president putin was extremely strong and powerful in his denial today. Here is the message. To russia, stay out of american elections. Lets just be really, really clear. Before everybody goes off and says hey, the russians are involved in both of their campaigns, one of those people is condemning it and the other one is encouraging. The president ousted the acting director of National Intelligence, Joseph Maguire replacing him with this guy, Richard Grenell and William Mcraven is warning when president ial ego and selfpreservation are more important than National Security then there is nothing left to stop the triumph of evil. Nothing left to stop the triumph of evil. Just a few months before the election, america, are you listening . Joining me malcolm nance, msnbc terrorism analyst and the author of the plot to betray america a book that examines in great detail russias efforts to influence americas election and policy and harry litman, former Deputy Assistant director general, attorney general and the host of talking feds podcast and columnist at the Washington Post. Gentlemen, thank you for being here. Malcolm, let me start with you. The president is outraged that the Intelligence Community gave members of Congress Information that the russians continued to interfere in the 2020 election, the fact that the two of you know very well because he thinks that democrats will use that against him in the election. It kind of feels like hes missing the point on this. Hes missing the point because he fundamentally does not understand how congress is organized or what their role is. He really thinks that it is a partisan organization in which you have to keep things from the other. He doesnt understand the role of National Oversight by the representatives of the people of the United States. So when he heard adam schiff had the temerity to be in that meeting, he thought this shouldnt be briefed to him. Hes a democrat. Donald trump does not understand the constitution or what this nation is made of. And thats dangerous, because hes going to probably start with his new political commisar he sent to the director of National Intelligence to withholding information from the representatives of the people, and that of course could end up in disaster if we have a terrorist attack or another mass shooting in the United States, in which intelligence could have stopped it, but he stove piped it to just his followers. Okay, and harry, thats not sort of a weird idea that malcolms got. In 9 11, the cia had information about the attackers that it did not share with the fbi, and the thinking now, there have been books and movies made about this, is that if they shared that information, there may have been an ability to prevent 9 11, and the department, the director of National Intelligence was created out of that failure, the idea that there needs to be coordination between our intelligence department. So that person who heads that should be possibility one of the smartest brains in intelligence that this country has to offer, and a lot of people think grenell is not that guy. Hes not an experienced guy. Hes one thing and one thing only. Hes a trump loyalist, and the whole government now as malcolm says the newcom commisar is on probe to root out all people who are disloyal. Mcmaster says theres nothing to stop evil. Strong words but true. The key thing you said ali is facts. Right now trump really seemed on a campaign to scrub out facts that are unfavorable for him anywhere on the american scene. That is stalinesque. Im not saying it will succeed. You have the courts perhaps to come in as happened this week, but were talking about really a renewed, not renewed, a torqued up effort which didnt seem possible to literally scrub out history from the Mueller Probe to the intelligence, to colonel vindmans truthful testimony, if it seems unfavorable to him. It is headturning. And malcolm, theres some technical stuff that is important here. Grenell could only serve until march 11th unless the president names someone who is to be nominated, approved by the senate. The president could name someone to keep the clock running so the appointee is always active, and once again like the president would like to have his only person attorney general, might have his own director of National Intelligence. That would be dangerous to the country. It would be dangerous to the United States. If i were an exkgb director in an enemy state like russia, as Vladimir Putin is, i would encourage all of this. Donald trump himself is dismatling u. S. Intelligence. He is putting his own personal opinions above facts. He trusts Vladimir Putin who is that good for, malcolm . Whats it good for . Its not good for anyone. You dont know what nefarious plots and plans are being car rid out against the United States right now and the professionals who passed the data up the chain of command may get to a point where the data wont go any further because the political commissar is too busy trying to take out individuals in the community because he doesnt like their opinion. In israel, the chiefs are amongst the biggest critics of government because their obligation is to tell the truth, and so are our members of the Intelligence Community, but right now grenells job is to root out enemies of the state of the czar, of donald trump in the exact same way that any other petty third world dictator would do it and we are all in danger because of this decision. All right, harry, is there any firewall here, is there any way to stop this . This is a second week in a row you and i are talking about a Government Agency or Government Department that is being politicized so it could be controlled by the president. Is there a backstop . The courts, the ballot box but the two worst places for this to happen are intelligence and justice and thats where its happening. Yes. Former Deputy Assistant attorney general harry litman and msnbc terror analyst malcolm nance, thanks very much. This is a serious matter that americans have got to take seriously. Still ahead the results from todays nevada caucuses could play in the future of joe bidens president ial run. How hes making his final pitch to voters here before turning his attention to the allimportant South Carolina. Pennsylvania senator and biden supporter bob casey talks to me next. I was cured. I faced reminders of my hep c every day. I worried about my hep c. But in only 8 weeks with mavyret. I was cured. Mavyret is the only 8week cure for all types of hep c. Before starting mavyret your doctor will test. If youve had hepatitis b which may flare up and cause serious liver problems during and after treatment. 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The strategy leaving some to believe the approach may be the same the democrats will employ against President Trump in the election. Joining me is senator bob casey, a job biden supporter. Thank you for being here. What are you looking for here in nevada and, more importantly, next week in South Carolina . In the early days of this campaign, what everybody was saying was even if joe biden is not as strong as he wanted to be in iowa and New Hampshire, South Carolina would be the fire wall for him because of his remarkable support amongst africanamericans. That seems to have been cut into. Well, ali, i think now were in states like nevada and South Carolina, and ultimately in super tuesday, where the electorate is broad and diverse. Thats where joe biden does best. I thought it was interesting in the debate the other night that the debate about health care and joe bidens views on health care, i think, will play a larger role the further we get into the other primaries. Because the president of the United States is afraid of one thing when it comes to health care. Hes afraid that our party, and we have to do this, will expose the fact that the president of the United States and his party are going to take away protections for preexisting conditions. There is no question about that. All the repeal bills do that. All the efforts to sabotage the system will result in those protections being taken away. Joe biden fought to get the Affordable Care act passed, and hes been very clear about reducing Health Care Costs and making sure, no matter what, that those protections for preexisting conditions remain no matter what. I think as we get into the debate in nevada and South Carolina, these other states, preexisting conditions and the protections there are going to be central. Senator, let me talk about pennsylvania. A swing state. We saw brandnew polling from quinnipiac out this week which showed, amongst democrats, health care is the Biggest Issue, even in pennsylvania. Among all voters, the economy in general edges it out. If you are a voter who thinks, according to the polling in pennsylvania, that the economy is your most important issue, you are inclined to believe Donald Trumps talk about the economy. That is better and the stock market is good and wages are higher. Theres evidence to the contrary in many places, or there is evidence that the stock market gains are not shared by a whole lot of working americans. But for some reason, thats resonating in a state like pennsylvania, which one argues a democratic candidate is going to have to win in 2020. Ali, i think the data you showed earlier about wages and whats happened, if you talk to the average working family, someone a little below middle class, the cost of child care is killing families. Seven out of ten American Families cant afford it. Seven out of ten. Thats the reality. So when it comes to basic costs, the cost of health care itself, weve got to get that down. The cost of child care, all these issues the middle class and lowincome families face, joe biden has been fighting on behalf of those issues and those folks for a long time. But we havent done a very good job as a party. Im allowed to criticize my party. We have to do a much better job of telling people whats at stake in the election. When we do it in a state like pennsylvania, the numbers on the economy and health care will be very devastating and damaging to donald trump. Senator, good to see you. Thank you for joining me. Democratic senator and joe biden supporter bob casey joining us from pennsylvania this morning. Well be right back. I am totally blind. And non24 can make me show up too early. Or too late. Or make me feel like im not really there. Talk to your doctor, and call 8442342424. But allstate helps you. With drivewise. Feedback that helps you drive safer. And that can lower your cost now that you know the truth. Are you in good hands . He spent his life bringing people together. I know hed be happy that we are all together now. crying what is happening . [what is that . ] baby noises is that a baby nut . baby noises dolphin noises just kidding, im back. Wheres my monocle . Oh no, here comes gthe neighbor probably to brag about how amazing his Xfinity Customer Service is. Im mike, im so busy. Good thing xfinity has twohour appointment windows. They have night and weekend appointments too. Hes here. Bill . Karolyn . Nope no, just a couple of rocks. Download the my account app to manage your appointments making todays Xfinity Customer Service simple, easy, awesome. Ill pass. Thats it for me. I am going to warm up for a little while and hand it over to my friend, joy reid, who is going to take you through not just the couple hours but shell be here for a while today while we watch these numbers come in or not come in. Come in. Do whatever theyre going to do. Not come in. The part about you getting to warm up, not happening. Yeah. This is essentially a kidnapping live on television. Ill hang around with you. Stay with me a little bit. Good morning to all of you. Welcome to am joy live here. Beautiful and chilly las vegas, nevada. Unlike iowa and New Hampshire, a highly Diverse Group of democratic voters who will pick their candidate to make donald j. Trump a oneterm president. This group of voters will vote with the knowledge that russians are trying to help trump stay in power. Wait, theres more. On the eve of the nevada caucus, the Washington Post broke the news that Bernie Sanders has been briefed by u. S. Intelligence officials that russia is also trying to boost his president ial campaign. Senator sanders confirmed he had been briefed on russias efforts. Unlike russia, if youre listening, trump, sanders responded the way we expect any patriotic american political leader to do. Look, let me just say a word about russia. Mr. Putin is a thug. He is an autocrat. He may be a friend of Donald Trumps. Hes not a friend of mine. Let me tell mr. Putin, the American People, the republicans, democrats, independents, are sick and tired of seeing russia and other countries interfering in our elections. The Intelligence Community has been very clear about it. Whether trump recognizes it or not, or acknowledges it or not, they did interfere in 2016. Intelligence community is telling us they are interfering in this campaign right now, in 2020. What i say to mr. Putin, if elected president , trust me, you are not going to be interfering in american elections. Russias continuing attacks on our democracy do not stop with the president ial election. Time magazine reports an intelligent official briefed lawmakers that the russians are also meddling in congressional races, aiding some republican candidates and targeting some democratic ones. According to officials familiar with the briefing. As i was preparing to do the show this weekend, i cannot help asking and reasking and reasking, how did we get here . I mean, not obviously here in nevada, which has produced legendary politicians like senator harry reid, who opened the democratic debate this week, trying to reinforce our confidence in our democracy. The Onetime Senate majority leader, he once held the same job as Mitch Mcconnell, if you can believe that. Was one of the first, if not the first democratic leader in washington to see a young black senator, barack obama, and see a president. He encouraged him not to wait his turn and to run in 2008. How did we get from that to here . We have a president who was helped into office by a foreign adversary, and whose Political Party seems to have gone beyond even Voter Suppression, which is bad enough, and is apparently open to taking the help of that Foreign Government to cling to power. To the point where the president fires anyone who tries to warn him and his party about russian intervention in 2016 or 2020. His Party Members run to him and tattle on the intel community, not for failing to stop the russian attack but for stitching on russia. Meanwhile, our other Political Party seems to be basically cracking up in general. Locked in a racial generational battle l over how to get out of this mess, either by betting it all or launching a socialist revolution and everything in between. The razor answer is we are here, in large part, because the United States has become one of the most economically unequal countries on earth. Not far below russia. When you combine that with being a country that has also been unequal in matters of the race, gender, sexual identity, and any number of ways for so long, and where now, Neither Party can tamp down the desperation. On the republican side, by giving white americans more citizenship, extra citizenship, but dubois called the higher place in america, segregated schools, exclusive access to where you can seeat and swim. In the trump era, you have it over the brown people and immigrants. On the democratic side, by assuring americans that politics can fix it, so you dont have to work two and three jobs, and you can afford your medicine and afford to go to college and not have eight roommates. Whatever your race and economic chanc race, you ha stance, you have a chance. Politics, in short, are broken. Joining me now isvelshi, host of velshi, which you must watch, and also the director here of indivisible. Ali, the reason i wanted you to they, i stay, ive been obsessing over this and getting downhearted in where we are. In what ways is this about an unequal america with two parties fighting to answer peoples question of why are we here and how do we fix it . It is totally about that. It is an unequal world, and america is a sharper example of it. We are richer than most countries in the world, and we are actually growing in our inequality. Were going the wrong direction in america. It is prosperity. Its the issue you are not as prosperous as you should have been given what you did. What republicans are doing is theyre finding an otherness to blame for that. The blame lies you and i talked about it you and i blames with us, journalists, academics, economists, politicians who told everybody 50 years ago, increased trade going to be amazing. Itll increase gdp growth. It did. Itll increase profitability and share prices. It did. It is going to increase your wages. Well, it didnt do that for a lot of people. We didnt take the winnings from it and fix it. We didnt tell the people, wel well retrain you, move you, do something with you. We have an angry population, some are white, and we told them, the within youre in this position is women getting your jobs, asians and blacks and refugees and gays and whatever you want to blame them on. The truth is it is economic inequality thats going around the world. Thats right. That needs to be fixed. Yeah. I think at least democrats are struggling with what the fix looks like. Thats right. Republicans for the moment are not struggling with what the fix looks like. It is bad, and you better keep your attention on keeping those people from getting your piece of the pie. Yeah. It is very sort of overt, the way that donald trump has sort of made, you know turns into human form what used to be the trick of saying, youre downstairs in the thee per and the theater and blacks are upstairs. Trump is saying, youre better. This is our country. Theyre from shithole countries. It is not going to help. At the end of the day, donald trump is still shoveling money into the hands of billionaires and his friends and corporations. Republicans are still doing the thing, and it is on the black and latino, the democratic side, communities of color, like you know what, we see it. Yes, exactly. What do we do about it . Look, i think as you said, donald trump is really clear on his playbook. Democratic leaders have to be clear on ours. There is no space for a lack of courage. There is no space for being afraid of really saying what we want. Latinos, people of color, for too long, waited on broken democratic promises. This president ial has given so much space to movements of people who are shaping this race to actually change the conditions that a lot of people, who have really suffered under oppressed systems, are going to change. For example, united we dream have gotten top progressive candidates to come out and say, in the first 100 days of their administration, Bernie Sanders and Elizabeth Warren would have a moratorium deportations. That happened because of people power. To me, i feel actually really grounded in the promise of this president ial primary. I dont feel sort of a flurry of distress. I see people really changing the conditions of how this race is being run. Yeah. You cant lock out that julio castro has changed and been part of the warren team now. He is part of the warren team. Thats right. Lets talk about the strange state of the parties in a way, too. Both parties have looked outside of their core to find a leader who can fix this in their mind, right . Yeah. Republican side, they went to donald trump, who has no political ideology, other than having a problem with people who arent from the United States and anyone making movies from korea. Hes an odd duck. This morning, senator sanders talked about the democratic establishment. Hes a 30plus odd year senator that caucuses with the democratic establishment. He wants to be the president of the United States, who would also be the leader of the Democratic Party. Yup. He is almost saying, this is a hostile takeover, not a merger. We are not in the same party. Yeah. How is it thats the problem. How are both parties running with people saying, we aint in these parties . They cleaved around a few theyve coalesced around a few key issues. Used to be abortion and guns. Now, it is abortion, guns, and immigration. It is clear. If you ask most doctrinary republicans, theyll give it in roughly that order. Democrats are struggling with bigger things. Fundamentally, if this is Economic Uncertainty at the bottom, fixing education and health care will fix a lot of these problems for black and brown americans and everybody else. Yeah. What were not able to do, and i think your point is really clear, weve got to coalesce around a message. I think what christina beltrans point yesterday was this feels like an adult election. If youre waiting for the savior, the savior may not be there. Right. This is about organizing. This is about doing what you saw in 2018. Women and people of color and gun sense candidates and people like that ran for office and took back the house. Yeah. Thats the kind of thing this has to feel like. This is not about sitting around, deciding which youre voting for on election day. It is getting out there and saying, democracy and capitalism require saving right now. The basic fixes of health care and Public Education are the places were going to start to fix it. That is going to make people feel more equal in a good way. Doesnt hurt anybody to have better Public Education and to have Better Health care. Yeah. Thats what they have to articula articulate. Itll have to feel less like two tents going in different directions. Everybody who watched wednesdays debate has a different opinion. Was it a firing squad and were they all bad and wreck it, or did they breathe new energy into this fight . Id like to be optimistic and say, thanks to Mike Bloomberg, they breathed new energy into it. Or we have an election in which, because the country is cracking up, foreign entities are coming in and being able to seriously exploit it. Yes. You have john brennan and sally yates. Were in a fullblown National Security crisis, says john brennan, trying to prevent the flow of intelligence to congress. Trump is trying to stay in office. Sally yates says it is a siren, the barrage of crazy. Can we hear it anymore . We changed the iran government by getting rid of the leader. Its been done in the past. It is happening to us now. There was a piece called america is collapsing into fascism because americans dont understand it. Brilliant article if anyone read it. He talks about the fact that when the conditions will underpin democracy crumble, people run toward fascism and may run the other direction, socialism. Ten countries with the highest inequality, were two below russia. Netherlands, russia, sweden, United States. Im going in order. More republicans than democrats support expanding president ial power. The share of republicans who believe president s could be more effective if they did not have to consider the other branches of government has increased 16 Percentage Points since last year. More than four in ten think a president should be an autocrat, right . A little more. On the other side, millenials are starting to lose faith in capitalism. Youre starting to see among millennial and genzers, 51 , just over half, feel positively to genzers. The we can do anything generation is a little more positive. Baby boomers, goes up from there. We are in a situation, ali, where there is less belief in capitalism and democracy on the republican side. I have this argument with my daughter all the time. The analogy i use is that i sometimes have problems with my plumbing. I call a plumber over. I dont ask them to dismantle the plumbing. I ask them to fix my plumbing. Right. The hot water can flow. Thats what we have to do with capitalism. I am a capitalist, economics journalist. I can look and say, it is absolutely broken. The distribution part of it, which is supposed to get stuff everywhere, is not working. It is a global problem. We do actually have to fix it. You have to look at all the component elements that are broken. Health care, digital stuff, the treatment of women in society and how we deal with that, the treatment of people of color. If you actually fixed it all, we could have a working capitalism. This concept of 43 of americans thinking that greater president ial power is the answer, that is exactly what leads to totalitarianism and authoritariani authoritarianism, and it removes the checks and balances on what this country was built. Thats something the founder fathers put in. I could be pay oway off, but could be the americanization of america. If you look across the continent, right, theres a lot of this tug between plutocracy and socialism. It is happening in other countries in the americas. It hasnt happened to us. This feels a lot more like the election we just had in mexico. There was a question about it in the debate. Do people can they remember the name . These are the kind of elections in the americas that happen. It feels like were having the same thing. You know, i think about this from the prism of i come from an immigrant community. A lot of latinos, especially older latinos, have a generational proximity because of the countries they come from. Theyre not foreign questions for folks. My parents are from nicaragua. Theyre clear on what authoritarianism looks like and are noting the signals. Im a millennial, skeptical of capitalism from looking at my parents who have ideology that displaced them. Its not that we all shouldnt have access to health care and education, but we should be clear on the checks of one person. For me, there needs to be expansive solutions to the pain were seeing in this country. And we, as people, need to take ownership of our democracy. Thats right. No one is going to save us but people. Absolutely. It is interesting that one of the things we all have in common, as people of color, people with immigrant parents, people with immigrant backgrounds, we see america sort of from a 30,000foot view sometimes. It can be an interesting view when youre looking at a country where people are only living here. This has been a great conversation. Ali velshi, maria, youre great. Thanks. Up next, the country is on the line. Amid that, is the Democratic Party headed for the rails without the brakes . Thats a scary question. Two of the partys leaders will be here to talk about it. More am joy live from vegas next. [ applause ] thank you. Its an honor to tell you that Liberty Mutual customizes your Car Insurance so you only pay for what you need. I love you only pay for what you need. Liberty. Liberty. Liberty. Liberty. Do that are degrading . Ideo tapes, film reels, or photos, legacybox professionally converts them to dvds, thumb drive, or the cloud. Legacybox is simple and safe, with over half a million satisfied customers. Visit legacybox. Com today, and get 40 off. Stay two nights and get a free night for your next stay. One night, two nights, free night. Book now at bestwestern. Com. Ncan it one up spaghetti night . Cleaning power of liquid. Free night. It sure can. Really . Can it one up breakfast in bed . Yeah, for sure. Thanks, boys. What about that . 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Thats why pundits are saying, and i am saying, that we should have nevada as the first state to vote. Today is the democrats first caucus since iowa. Didnt exactly inspire confidence in the democratic nominating process. Nevadas Democratic Party has been trying to ensure the same mess doesnt happen here. Including scrapping plans to use the developer behind the faulty app in iowa. Its not just bad tech that the dnc is contending with. Theres also questions about how Michael Bloombergs tsunami is influencing the race, and a possibility of a contested convention in july. Joining me now is the chair of the dnc, tom perez, who can answer some of the questions. And william mckerrty, chair of the nevada Democratic Party. Chair minnesoman and chairman. You first, sir. The race tonight, are we going to see Election Results tonight . Yes. The goal has been from day one of the nevada Democratic Party is accuracy. We want to preserve the integ u integrity of this process. We are certain well have something out today, but the goal is accuracy. I have to say, as someone who worked in politics a little bit, this state has the this is the envy of every state party in the United States. This is the best Democratic State party in the country. Ill say that. I used to envy it when i was in florida. We should have confidence in it. Youre using paper. Is that how youre getting the results in . We realized we need to make sure we had a process that voters could feel confident in. We know that this process is going to work. Weve been training day in and day out, working around the clock to ensure that we secure a successful caucus process. One other thing that politico reported. There are people who are still nervous. Interviews with politico, and well say it is one media outlet saying that three caucus volunteers described rushed preparations for the election, including insufficient training for newly adopted electronic vote tally system and instructions on how to measure the caucuses. Should you be worried about that . Not at all. We thank or volunteers for all the work they do to ensure this Party Continues to be the best in the country. Listen, talk about what happened. We had saw a lot. What happened was less than ideal. What we made sure to do was implement a process and make sure we trained our volunteers on how they can continue to deliver throughout this process with early vote. Also on caucus day. We really like what weve been able to do. Since, actually, saturday, weve been able to hold over 50 trainings and have over 1,400 people trained since that day. Weve been working day in and day out. You saw harry reid in the intro here. Harry reid built a powerhouse party. You look at the number of democrats that are elected in this state, starting with the governor, the attorney general, the senators. Its a we have the statehouse, state Senate Majority female. I bring that up simply because that organization is what is helping make today work. Were proud to assist them, and were going to have a very good day here. The people who we met at early voting the other day, the determination that they had, we need to take out trump thm. Yeah. Our goal is to make sure this day is about the candidates, not the process. It is a mixed sort of early vote plus caucus. It is sort of a hybrid. It is getting closer. Do you see this becoming a primary though Going Forward . Our goal is to make sure that we handle where we are right now. That was putting on the first ever early vote as any of the caucus states. It was successful. We had over 75,000 people participate. Yeah. Well have a successful caucus. Lets move on to the other sort of fear that people have. Let me play for you a little piece of the debate we had, the nbc debate. Here is chuck todd asking a pointed question to the panel or to Elizabeth Warren. Should the person with the most delegates at the end of this primary season be the nominee, even if they are short of a majority . One of the rules of the Democratic Party are they should be followed. You want the convention to work, its will . It means people have deleg e delegates that are pledged to them and they keep it until you come to the convention. Leading person . All of the people. Leading person with the delegates, should they be the nominee or no . Let the process work its way out. Buttigieg . Not necessarily. Senator klobuchar . Let the process work. The will of the people should prevail, yes. Thank you, guys. The one with the most votes should be the nominee. Mr. Chairman, you, sir. Should we be concerned were heading toward a contested convention . Are you concerned about that . Joy, im not concerned about that at this point. Because weve allocated 65 delegates. You need 1991 delegates to get the nomination on the first ballot. I used to run marathons. This is somewhere between maybe mile 1 and mile 2 of the marathon. Nevada hasnt spoken. Communities of color at scale have not spoken yet. Thats true. Politics is often these processes are often momentum. Well see what happens in the weeks ahead. Think somebody will have 1,990 delegates going in . 1,991 is the magic number. It is conceivable someone will get it. That is the rule. We sat down in 2018, everybody. We came together around a series of reforms. We reduced the role of super delegates. We created you always have to have 50 plus one. It is not a new rule. Thats been in place 40 years. Right. 40 at the end of the day is not enough. Let me ask you this. Those, that Unity Convention where you made the new rules, they felt to democrats like they were done to appease the Bernie Sanders team, right, the Bernie Sanders campaign. And a lot of the rules were built to help him get the nomination in a lot of ways, right . Now, you have him likely to have, or maybe have, most of the delegates, more delegates but not enough. If he has more delegates, senator sanders, than anybody else, but not 1,991, how would the nominee be chosen . Again, the rules clearly again, everybody was involved in the creation of these rules. We adopted these rules with overwhelming consensus. People who supported secretary clinton, senator sanders, somebody else, everybody supported them. If you dont get to 1,991, 50 plus one, then you go to a subsequent ballot. At that point, super delegates, under the rules everybody adopted, would be permitted to vote. A lot of people also felt that taking away super delegates power took a lot of power away from people of color. A lot of africanamericans, a lot of latinos who were state officials. Thats all a super delegate is. They are a dedicated party member from one of the states. The legs were cut out from under th them. In a contested convention, theyd have less authority. When you reduce the power of delegates, i understood the concern but its not the case. You have to look at who super delegates were. Super delegates are members of the United States senate. Pretty white group. Theyre governors. A pretty white group. Its gotten better because of the house caucus. When i heard the argument that this will reduce the power of communities of color, we actually looked at that number. The pledge delegates who are the ones voting on the first ballot are actually more demographically representative of america. Let me read real quick, and ill bring you both back in here. Michael bloomberg is quietly, apparently, plotting for a contested convention. He is not playing in these first four primaries and caucuses. Bloomberg is privately lobbying, per politico, the Democratic Party officials and donors, allied with his moderate opponents, to flip their allegiance to him and block sanders in a contested convention. The effort attempts to prime bloomberg for a second ballot contest at the Democratic National convention in july by poaching supporters of joe biden and other moderate democrats, according to two democratic strategists familiar with talks and unaffiliated with bloomberg. What would happen . Ill ask you first, the state chair, what would happen if Bernie Sanders, lets say, were to win the nevada caucus, and he were to do well on super tuesday but not have enough delegates. In a second ballot, bloomberg, who didnt even play in nevada, were to broker himself the nomination anyway. What do you think would happen to the party . Well, our party is resilient, number one. We have, for a long time, been able to whatever the differences may be, weve been able to come together. I believe whatever happens, were going to be united in making sure we will defeat donald trump. Number one, lets talk about nevada for a little bit. We are the first early state that reflects the diversity of not only the Democratic Party but also the rest of the country. I will say, lets pump the brakes a little bit. Lets see what infonevada has t say, which has, again, one of the highest diversity, one of the most diverse of the early states. Lets see how candidates will do here, leading them to a successful super tuesday. Then well have the discussion later. Except that Michael Bloomberg is playing with a tsunami of money. 450 million in ads so far since launching his campaign. And the man who is leading in most of the polls throughout the country is not only not a registered democrat, hasnt renl st registered as a democrat, has refused, and tweeted this morning, its trending, the democratic establishment, that means you guys, the democratic establishment will not stop him from getting the nomination. He is presenting what he is doing as a hostile takeover, not a merger with the party that he caucuses with in the senate. My question, again, is do you worry, as chairman, as somebody who has dealt with the sanders team, some of whom voted for jill stein and were allowed to come in and negotiate the rules, do you not worry that if sanders is denied the nomination, even under rules he agreed to, that there will be civil war in the Democratic Party . You know what, everybody understands what is different than 2020, theres a lot of ptsd about 2016. I think everyone has that. You know what is different about 2020 . Donald trump and the existential threat to our nation. Every single one of the candidates on the debate stage for the nbc msnbc debate the other night is ahead of donald trump headtohead in the Washington Post polling, quinnipiac polling from a week ago. We understand this is not about any one candidate. But does everyone understand that . I understand youre saying that, but the senator is saying, who is an independent, he is an independent and still is a registered independent, as far as we know, he is saying this morning, in his own twitter feed, under his own name, that the democratic establishment will not stand in his way. Essentially sort of kicking to the curb 65 Million People who voted for Hillary Clinton, obama democrats, people who consider themselves lifelong democrats. Is he not one of them . Is he one of them, or is he running against them . The person who gets 50 plus one of the delegates is going to be our next nominee. Every Single Person who is not that person has taken a pledge to make sure that they come together. This is not about its not about any one of the candidates on the stage. It is about americas future. Its about our democracy as we know it. People have stepped up 2017, 18, and 19, understanding that the stakes are unlike anything in our life. Were out of time. Im getting a wrap. I have two quick questions. Number one, is senator sanders becomes the democratic nominee, and if he is president , will the Democratic National committee require him to register as a democrat in order to he would essentially run the Democratic National committee. Would he have to register as a democrat to do that . He has filed for president as a democrat. Its been done. Last question, and this is nevada, then well go. Will the order change in the next four years . Next four years, we will have the same order, iowa, New Hampshire, nevada, South Carolina, or will it become a more diverse state like this one going first . The end of every race, every cycle, we look at what went right, what went wrong, and what we have to do. Two things well have a discussion about next time are, number one, the role of caucuses, and number two, order. I think it is long overdue we have the conversation. Last time after the 2016 campaign, we did super delegate reform. We did reform primaries and caucuses. There were 14 caucus states four years ago. Theres seven now. We need to continue that discussion. Frankly, its time. Yeah. Chairman perez, thank you. Chairman mckerrty. I love the diversity. President trump tries to pass the russian collusion ball to bernie. Break out the butter lobsterfest has something for every lobster fan like wild caught lobster, butter poached, creamy and roasted. Or try lobster sauteed with crab, shrimp and more. 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The New York Times revealed friday that intelligence officials briefed lawmakers last week that russia is once again attempts to interfere in our election to help donald trump win again. Rather than do something, anything to protect the integrity of our democracy, trump turned on his top intel official, acting director of National Intelligence Joseph Maguire. Repeatedly baa raer rai baradine house. He promoted Richard Grenell to the post instead. It is not just donald trump that russia is seeking to help. We also learned late friday the Bernie Sanders campaign has been briefed on russias attempts to interfere on his behalf, too. Joining me now is former federal prosecutor glen kirshner. This feels like a 911 right now. Weve now learned not only is rushy attemsia attempting to he again using the same playbook before, boosting the Sanders Campaign again to divide the Democratic Party, but theyre also reaching down into congressional races, too, which essentially gives one of our Political Parties a vested interest in letting them do it. What do we do about that . It is a great question, joy. One thing that i think we should do, one thing i think americans should expect is that the director of National Intelligence should be somebody with the kind of extensive National Intelligence experience that is required for the job. Yet, were getting the exact opposite. I mean, right now, i think Intelligence Matters are at their zenith of importance to the safety and security of our elections. Particularly because we know Mitch Mcconnell refuses to bring to the floor for a vote any of the Election Security measures passed by the house. So who does the president install as the acting dni, director of National Intelligence . This character, grenell. If you read his bio and have seen the interviews hes given, joy, not to be a smart aleck about it but itd be the giants hiring peewee herman for its quarterback. Grenell has been saying things like, and ill quote him, that our embassies around the world should be, quote, mini commerce sections, having nothing to do with diplomacy. It should all be transactional, and it should involve what can we get economically and financially out of the countries where our embassies are situated. He said things like, you know, Political Developments in Foreign Countries are super interesting and, quote, completely irrelevant. He suggests we should get all of our information about Political Developments in other countries from, quote, the internet. You cant make this up. It is not a saturday night live skit. When you ask, what can we do . You know, it seems like one thing we should demand, and goodness, i hope that the intel committees and the house and the senate demand, that somebody like ric grenell cannot be leading up, coordinating all of the information among the many intelligence agencies that are supposed to be defending our country against interference in our elections. Yeah. Just to put a finer point on that, in what the atlantic called the Trump Administration sort of emerging into the trump regi regime, to that point, alex ward, National Security reporter at vox, tweeted the following. I asked a senior white house official if trump really removed mr. Maguire, who was the former dni, over the russia briefing. The official didnt mince words. Thats absolutely why. Anyone from here on out that opposed potus will get fired. That bad, i asked. Yup, official said. Hes not fing around. Ward went on to tweet that he meant to type opposes, not opposed. So we essentially have fully loyalists only allowed to be inside the Trump Administration. No expertise required, just blind, naked loyalty to donald trump. Joy, we see what donald trump is doing. The pattern is unmistakable. I mean, for goodness sake, betsy devos in charge of education. Andrew wheeler, the administrator of the epa, who before taking that position was an attorney working on behalf of coal magnets and lobbying against the obama administrations environmental protections. Now, dni maguire is fired, and the acting dni is going to be this ric grenell character. We see what he is doing, right . He is dismantling the government brick by brick, agency by agency. We have a state department that is really decimated. We have a department of justice that is demoralized. We have now an Intelligence Committee being headed up by, or at least coordinating efforts by somebody who has no qualifications to be in the job. We see what the president is doing. He is destroying the government for the sake of destroying the government. He doesnt have any idealogical principles hes governed by. He is really just trying to tear things down. Steve bannon would say, deconstruct the administrative state. You know, theres a handful of republicans in the congress that can hold them accountable and that can turn this tide and that can actually start to work in favor of Election Security, in favor of the security of our nation and the American People. For goodness sakes, they need to stand up and start doing their job and taking their oath seriously. Yeah. Seems to be actually one in the senate, mitt romney, who at least has some desire to do something other than take the knee. Lets go to the other side of this. The other thing donald trump is doing is sort of demonstrations of what loyalty can buy you. Roger stone was sentenced to more than three years in prison. The case, per the New York Times, was thrown into disarray last week when attorney general barr overruled a sentencing recommendation by career prosecutors who quit the case in protest. Youve had thousands, more than, i think, a thousand former members of the department of justice, or officials of the department of justice object vehemently to the way william barr is running his shop. Here is donald trump talking about roger stone on wednesday, right here in las vegas. Before we go any further, i want to address todays sentencing of a man, roger stone. Roger stone. Hes become a big part of the news over the last little while. Im following this very closely, and i want to see it play out to its fullest. Because roger has a very good chance of exoneration in my opinion. Exoneration. Hes already been convicted. Hes already a felon. You have roger stones lawyers filing to seek to disqualify the judge. You have blagojevich, the former governor of illinois, likening himself to nelson mandela, dr. King, political prisoner. What is this . This doesnt sound like a normal democracys justice system, glen. Yeah, this is the president sort of acting as what he believes he is, which is the chief Law Enforcement officer of the country. You know, i think we all sense that a pardon is likely to come for roger stone. Can i tell you, joy, there may be no way of stopping that. As a career former career prosecutor, here is how i would use that. Judge amy berman jackson, a really fine, respected jurist who was the judge in roger stones case, said at the record at roger stones sentencing hearing on thursday that roger stones lies to congress and his tampering with a witness was designed to cover up for the president of the United States. If the president decides to grant the person who perpetrated that coverup of pardon, i think that would be corrupt. I think once donald trump is out of office, that will be used as an overt act in a conspiracy charge against donald trump for defrauding the United States. There is so much more to come on this. Yeah. The trick there is to get a free and Fair Election where there can be a president who isnt donald trump. That is the trick if we can even have an election that we can trust. Thats the rub. Glen kirshner, great to talk to you. Thank you, my friend. Thank you, joy. Up next, more am joy live from vegas next. As a caricature artist, i appreciate what makes each person unique. Thats why i like Liberty Mutual. They get that no two people are alike and customize your Car Insurance so you only pay for what you need. Almost done. What do you think . I dont see it. Only pay for what you need. Liberty. Liberty. Liberty. Liberty. Doprevagen is the number oneild mempharmacistrecommendeding . Memory support brand. You can find it in the vitamin aisle in stores everywhere. Prevagen. Healthier brain. 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The do nothing democrats, they said today that putin wants to be sure that trump gets elected. Here we go again. Here we go again. I was told a week ago. They said, you know, theyre trying to start a rumor, its disinformation. Thats the only thing theyre good at. Theyre not good at anything else. They dont get anything done. The do nothing democrats. That putin wants to make sure i get elected. Listen to this, doesnt he want to see who the democrat is going to be . Wouldnt he rather have, lets say, burnie. Welcome to a. M. Joy. For those of you getting ready to vote in a Democratic Caucus, maybe youre agonizing over your choice. Your job got more complicated because this week we got confirmation that whoever becomes the democratic nominee for president will not be just running against donald trump. Theyll be running against donald trump and Vladimir Putin. We learned from reports from New York Times, the Washington Post and msnbc news that donald trump knows that too. And when he learned that the republicans and democrats on the house Intelligence Committee, including adam schiff, who led the impeachment trial against him were briefed that russia already started working in to interfere with the elections, donald trump fired him. And we learned theyre in a Congressional Elections too to ensure that trump has a friendly Republican Congress to help them implement their i mean, his, plans. We learned just yesterday that a month ago, senator Bernie Sanders was briefed by intelligence officials that russian intelligence is also targeting his campaign to boost him. Much the way the Mueller Report concluded they did in 2016. Heres senator sanders response, in contrast to President Trumps and republicans collective shrug. Let me say this about russia. Mr. Putin is a thug. Hes an auto cat. He may be a friend of mr. Trumps, hes not a friend of mine. American people, whether youre republicans, democrats or independence, are sick and tired of seeing other countries interfering in our elections. The Intelligence Community has been clear about it. Whether trump recognizes it or not or acknowledges it or not, they did interfere in 2016, the Intelligence Community is telling us theyre interfering in this campaign right now, in 2020. And what i say to mr. Putin, if elected president , trust me, you are not going to be interfering in american elections. And that is how its actually supposed to sound, what theyre supposed to say. Lets be clear this morning, america. This is nothing less than a national emergency. Our upcoming election isnt going to be compromised, its already happening p and the president and the republican partys only concern is no one will snitch. So its not if. Its when russia messes with the democratic primary, when they dump disinformation, when they try to manipulate the november election to keep their pet american president , donald trump, in power, trump will be accepted that help. Not just as a candidate but with the full powers of the United States presidency behind him and having gutted the National Security council, having floated pardons to cronies, including potentially roger stone who offered himself between trump and wikileaks. Having his administration offer Julian Assange a pardon if he would just say that russia did not attempt to attack. And with an attorney general whos acting more mafia than attorney general of the American People. So which candidate demonstrated they were ready for thatti kindf fight. Im going to come to those sitting with me right now. I want to play Bernie Sanders a little bit more of what he said. This is when he was asked about the timing of the story coming out about russia also trying to help his campaign. Take a listen. A month ago, how do you think it came out now if hyou had the briefing a month ago. Ill let you guess one day before the nevada caucus, it was the Washington Post . Good friends. So i give senator sanders an aplus on his initial response to the way that russia we learned that russia was jumping into this campaign. Im not sure i give that an aplus, because that is a little more on the trumpy side, instead of saying this is something important to come out, i dont care how it came out, im glad i know it. He tried to pass it off as an attack by the Washington Post. Malcolm x said im for truth no matter who tells it. Im concerned that theres so much surprise against the Democratic Base that this is even happening on all sides. We cant be surprised by things that should be expected. We knew in 2016 this election was deeply compromised. Black and brown folks have been telling you elections have been compromised for a long time. And we should have been on top of this the entire time. The second that Hillary Clinton lost, there should have been an allout attack on the attacks on our elections. And weve got plenty of work to do around Voter Suppression and voter disenfranchisement this adds to the work that needs to be done. And were not urgent the pomp and circumstance be wont matter because our voice wont be heard. What concerns me, you have the person leading in the poll, senator sanders, this morning waging war against the democratic establishment. If he becomes the nominee, he has to consolidate those people. But it sounds as if hes dismissing all of those voters as not needed and just the revolution will win. I am concerned that russia has won in the sense the Democratic Party is completely fragmented and i do not see a path for it coming back to together. You should concerned. The fact we have a democratic senator president ial candidate pointing at the media saying that this is the enemy, ostensible, he didnt say it clearly, but ostensibly, we should have known this a lot of time. Las vegas is beautiful, we see the strip, its land, and those 27 native communities are going to do work today in the nevada caucuses. Thats important because Voter Suppression against those 27 native communities has been real here in nevada, its been very real in north dakota, south dakota, my point is that this president will do anything to ensure that his regime continues so we cant possibly act surprised. And doing so is maybe disingenuous, naive or downright stupid. One thing that indigenous communities know, dont trust and verify. Yes. That needs to be the attitude of all democrats when it comes to whats going on here. Lets go to michael, because you did write this book, whether we can keep it. We have donald trump taking over youtubes home page, hes bought all the time and hes going to pump his propaganda into the minds of people on youtube. You have a billion Dollar Campaign to reelect him. Trumps advise ers per the atlantic believe the election will be decided by mobilization not persuasion. The campaign signalled it will return to familiar themes, threat of, quote, illegal aliens, a term parscale has reportedly encouraged trump to use and the corruption of the, quote, swamp. And its allowing a texting platform that would allow them to send messages to millions of voters phones without their permission. Ive heard Donald Trumps lin go thrown back on them just on the treat. This is whats happening, hes already invaded with his propaganda and its coming out of the mouths and tweets and soon out of the facebook pages of his people. He has a plan. Do democrats have a plan to stop it . I dont see how democrats can have a plan to stop it, joy. Whatever happened in 2016, thats not really whats going to happen in 2020. Whats going to happen in 2020 is going to be new and its going to be worse. Because bad guys think of bad stuff baa before good guys do. Its kind of the essence of what makes them the bad guys. So theyre going to think of stuff that those of us sitting on this panel having this discussion cant possibly imagine. Theyre going to think of stuff that our Law Enforcement agencies cant imagine. Yes, these protrump messages of going to get into peoples brains in ways we dont realize. So 2016, i dont think prepared us for what is going to be happening this time. Another point id like to make, blame trump, blame trump, blame trump, absolutely. But we have a Political Party, one of our two Political Parties that doesnt care this is happening. Is perfectly happy its happening. Thats unprecedented and worth noting. We should note we talk about mr. Bloomberg, donald trump and Bernie Sanders. There are a lot of other people running this is a full campaign with people running, there are women running. There are all sorts of people that are running that can be president. Dont think these are the limited options. You have the trump world eating up facebook to the point officials are afraid to test republicans or make them mad. They gobbled up the advantage on things like social media, using the internet and those platforms in a stronger way. On the democratic side you have the most active really sort of twitter presence is the Sanders Campaign which for a lot of people is tormenting them. A lot of people i know feel tormented constantly, including on social media, including black media folks. And now you have the Sanders Campaign hinting maybe those people arent real, maybe a lot of them are foreign. It seems to be so toxic on the democratic side, they cant organize to fight. Thank you for coming to me after mr. Happy fun guy. Scaring is caring. I am really i am now really energized to move to a cave in nova scotia and never be seen again. Youre right. I think, basically, the democratic voter has got to toughen up. Theyve got to stop being afraid of all the stuff thats happening online. Theyve got to stop being afraid of the possibility that Bernie Sanders might be the nominee. Theyve got stop being afraid of what the russians will do and get out there and do something positive. I always go back to the anecdote about when ulysse s. Grant came from the west to take over the union army in the east and the sub generals were saying robert e. Lee will do this or that. And finally grant lost his temper and said stop worrying about what hes going to do to me and worry about what youre going to do to him. I think if you want to find where youre going to find the courage, look to native voters, the africanamerican voters, theyve been fighting this for 200 years. I dont want to pump up jesses ego too much but when i was going to iowa he sent me an email he said theres an indian reservation in iowa you should go to. I went and talked to the people there, we started talking about Voter Suppression and, you know, voter disinfranchisement and their answer to me was welcome to the club. Where yall been for 200 years . Good point. Your name has been called so you get to respond. Absolutely. You know, charlie is 100 right. Its funny, always a funny guy. But the settlement in iowa is a perfect example of the resilience weve had to go through. That doesnt mean we get comfortable with the cyber terrorism and the Information Campaign and stuff like that. But we have to be prepared and expect it. We cant get to tthe 11th hou, the nevada caucus and say were surprised. No these tribes expect it. Theyre going to go out and perform still, get out and get the vote and make some change. For white voters you have to expect it, its happening to you now. The other thing happening, this is for white voters and some cases black voters in the republican side. When it doubt just pay. Offer cash. The party that says its against socialism. The republicans claim the worst thing in the world is socialism. However, when youre ruining farmers lives and causing more farm bankruptcies, farm suicides through your tariffs, taxes on the American People and which are gutting the farm bill, you pay them off. Here is donald trump in all caps, if our formally targeted farmers need additional aid until such time as the trade deals with china, mexico, canada and others fully kick in, that aid will be provided by the federal government, paid for out of the massive tariff coming into the usa. So were going to destroy you with tariffs and then restore you with welfare. The welfare cheats in the reagan era was black and brown women. Theyre saying, farmers no you get welfare. And theres something for the black voters. Heres some money. The blackout reach team of the campaign is handing out money. There it is. Have some money. There you go. Essentially on the republican side theyll do anything, including pay cold hard cash, is that part of the reason that youre seeing, if people are paying, lets take bloomberg and let him pay. As weve been talking about, its been a long road to get here, a rocky road and a road in which people have gotten used, frankly, to being disenfranchised. I think of candidates like Elizabeth Warren, Julian Castro appealing to the section of marginalized voters, poor folks, women of color, indigenous people. And having those questions in those communities about whether our vote is going to count, thats im incredibly worried about the longterm impact this is going to have. Folks are saying i dont know if putin stole my vote, somebody with a bag of vote, the mass incarceration stole my vote, i want my vote back. I deserve it. My ancestors fought for it. If we try to expand the base to include voices that have not been included for a long time. You can ask stacey abrams, it doesnt matter to expand the base if their voices are going to be silenced. Its strange to wake up in america where millionaires, and affluent folks, mayor pete isnt the only one that isnt, millionaires and billionaires are fighting over to how to save poor people and middle class. So you have this mix of class, race, gender all happening at the same time. And the billionaires are saying let us run it directly. We wont pay for lobbyists, well run your country, whether its trump who may be a billionaire, he wont release his taxes or its Michael Bloomberg, yeah, ill run it for you. I remember when Mike Bloomberg first ran for new york mayor. He spend i think candidates up to that point were spending 8 or 10 million to get elected. He spent 75. S it was obscene but he said, nobody owns me, nobody bought me. And that has been an argument that selffinancing, wealthy people have been able to use with some success to a big chunk of the public. But i think now we reached a point where a new corner has been turned where its not just so great anymore that theyre selffinancing, theyre buying their way into office which is an thet cal to principles of democracy and principles we hoped this country was founded on and are being more and more corrupted with everything election that goes on. I said nothing but pessimistic things. Thats because your name isnt joy, michael. No, it sure isnt. You dont have to. Charlie, its working in a sense. Look at these headtoheads that each of these this is the abc Washington Post poll, joe biden versus trump, he still once you have an established sort of reputation, its hard to take it away from you. Joe biden is still beating trump in polls, Bernie Sanders, 51 45. The thing consistent across the polls is donald trump has a hard time getting above 45, 46 against anybody. It looks like in theory folks can vote for who they like and who wins. But look at the fact bloomberg has caught on in a lot of ways doing this. Its kind of working for him. We dont know that yet. We really dont know the impact of, you know, the train that ran over him the other night. Im a great guy, so im going to give him one more debate. Im a great guy so im going to give him one more debate and an opportunity not to look like road kill. But right now hes right now, once you get him out of the commercials, hes a terrible candidate. Outside of admiral stock dale, who had the excuse of having been a pow for four or five years, he was the worst main Stage National candidate i ever saw the other night. Yeah, no, i mean were going to have to hes going to have to be a candidate frankly, i dont know why bloombergs people put him on a debate stage or insisted he be included on a debate stage two weeks before hes going to be on a ballot anywhere. They could have carpet bombed the airwaves and gotten to super tuesday. They got tricked by the snl skit where it looked so easy, right. Its interesting, ive had a lot of black women have been coming up to me a lot saying is bloomberg going to be okay . Hes the only one that can save us . Thats theoretical bloomberg. Real bloomberg is essentially Elizabeth Warrens lunch. She drank his milk shake. Not to sorry. Huh . What . Now you got to say it. Say it. I was going to say, her basic message, which came across the other night of anticorruption is, i think who knows whether itll you know, propel her anywhere. But thats the message to hit this guy with. And the message to hit the entire political system with. You can go now. Absolutely. 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Its the first time were in a state with a significant africanAmerican Community. So things that have mattered to the africanAmerican Community have mattered to me my whole career. Joe biden needs a win. The former Vice President lost his lead in the polls following disappointing results in iowa and New Hampshire. Hes hoping a strong showing in more diverse nevada and South Carolina will put his campaign back on track. Without a decisive finish in both contests its not clear what the path forward is for his campaign. Joining me now is the senior addad adviser for joe bidens campaign. Does he need to win . He doesnt need to do win, but we need to do well the the states Fastest Growing populations is asianamericans and we have strong support in that community. Theres a lot of energy and enthusiasm for joe biden. I was with him last night at his closing argument, he had the audience in tears and people were ready to caucus. The thing is, people just call him joe, right . Thats right. He has an established likability factor, people like him. He was the loyal Vice President to the most Popular Democratic priority in our lifetime, president obama. He gets that as a give me, particularly with voters of color. But now other candidates are trying to hone in on that and take that from him. Here are other candidates, former Vice President talking with mike memle about other candidates trying to take away his obama factor. If you look around everyone running is acting like they were baracks best friend. You have bernie talking about it, you have mayor bloomberg. I saw Elizabeth Warren is running barack ads. The same people were talking about how these problems didnt start just with trump. You know, even senator sanders i do remember this, when he talked about primary president obama has tied himself to adds with president obama, you had Elizabeth Warren warren who worked with president obama to make the Consumer Protection bureau. You go on and on, everyone is doing the same time. Has the obamabestie card been watt erred down . I dont think so. Remember in the early debates a number of candidates attacked president obama and that legacy and joe biden had his back. Hes a loyal Vice President to the first africanamerican president in country, people wont forget that. When you look at the other candidates trying to wrap their arms around barack obama, it doesnt have the same effect. Recall Bernie Sanders, who tried to primary him. If you try to primary a sitting president , the sitting president usually loses but thank goodness Bernie Sanders wasnt successful. But people know that joe biden have their back, like he had the back of barack obama. We can put up an emerson poll, it shows that joe biden is holding onto black voters older black voters but hes sharing younger black voters, under 30, with senator sanders. Why do you think that is happening . Polls are going to move up and down a little bit. But what we look after 2016 what did the trend lines show over time. A poll is a snapshot in time. Weve seen Vice President biden does well, squiconsistently wel with communities of colors, whether its latinos, africanamericans, and we see a little bit of the flexibility there, but we think coming out of nevada well do well. Looking forward to getting back out there tonight. And then on super tuesday, a diverse mix of states in the south with a strong mix of africanamerican and latinos community. Are you disappointed that the Culinary Union did not endorse him . It wasnt disappointing. When we landed a couple days ago, the first stop we made was culinary, there was a huge round of applause for the Vice President. We arrived and spent a lot of time with culinary workers. When hes president of the United States culinary and Labor Movement will never have a better friend in the white house than joe biden. If the former Vice President does not do well here or in South Carolina, is that it . Do you think he would end his campaign . Were going to do well out here. Youre confident . Im very confident. Does the former Vice President have money to pivot from here to South Carolina to super tuesday in seven or eight days . We have enough money to succeed and get the job done. Last week after the debate was the best Online Fundraising weve had since the launch of the campaign. And our folks who have backed vp biden from the beginning are not flaky. Theyre going to stick with him. Theyve known him a long time, first as a senator and then as a vp to barack obama. Are they prepared to fight a russian attack on him, which youve seen donald trump launch visavis ukraine . Yes, my favorite mexican proverbs, they tried to bury us but they didnt know we were seeds. This candidate is up against the ropes and does his best, whether its fighting the nra, Climate Change, protecting women. 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Newspapers report bloomberg is the democrat trump fears most. As president , universal healthcare that lets people keep their coverage if they like it. A record on job creation. A doable plan to combat Climate Change. I led a complex, diverse city through 911 and i have common sense plans to move america away from chaos to progress im Mike Bloomberg and i approve this message. In just a few weeks the 2020 u. S. Census will officially begin. And we know just how crucial the census is for determining the number of house seats, for redistricting and for allocating money to all of our communities. Now after having failed at getting a Citizenship Question added to the census which would have likely resulted in lower Response Rates from immigrant families and an inaccurate count, republicans are returning to sending out deceptive mailers. Theyre sending them out in california, on blue paper, similar to the format of the census form. Theyre labeled official documents, do not destroy. The response date is this monday, february 24th. The l. A. Times which was first to report on this particular mailer says, quote, included in the envelope is a fourpage letter from the rnc chairwoman asking for donations to the party in a promise to support trump in 2020. Unlike the official census form, the rnc survey is made up largely of political questions, such as whether Race Relations in the country are getting worse and Political Correctness is getting out of hand. The Trump Campaign defended the mailers saying its coming from the rnc. The l. A. Times story talks about people calling rnc officials and saying they stop mailing these to their elderly families and fooling them into thinking theyve mailed out the census already. This is what the official census looks like, and it would never ask for donations or opinions on issues. Do not be fooled by these republican tricks, america. Meanwhile, do not forget watch our continuing live coverage of the nevada caucus at 2 00 p. M. On msnbc. Theres more a. M. Joy after the break. Applebees new irresistabowls now starting at 7. 99. Now thats eatin good in the neighborhood. In the late 1990s, i kept warning about the coming crisis over mortgages. How these Mortgage Companies had figured out that they could target communities of color. Ive got a plan to build 3. 2 million Housing Units across this country. I got it fully paid for. And just one quick thing on the housing. Its housing across the board. Its housing for middle class families who want to be able to have a chance to buy a home, for the working families, the working poor, the poor poor. Practically every 2020 democratic candidate, including senator Elizabeth Warren has spent the days leading up to the nevada caucus vying for the crucial support of working class voters. Just last week the Culinary Union, right here, ultimately declined to endorse a democratic candidate for president. Around at the same time the Culinary Union had a rift with the Bernie Sanders campaign. Sanders addressed this tension at the democratic debate on wednesday. Let me be very clear to my good friends in the culinary workers union, a great union. I will never sign a bill that will reduce the Health Care Benefits they have. We will only expand it for them, for every union in america, and for the working class of this country. And if there are a few people who make ugly remarks who attack union leaders, i disown those people, they are not part of our movement. Joining me is daniel wasek, a precision machinist who wrote an article, a lack of respect for the working class today. Also joining us is jess morcales. Thank you for being here. Inside this state, in nevada, we know the share of households who are Union Households is 19 . We know that unions have lost a lot of the political power and potency that they had over the decades in this country but theyre still a strong hold here. When you talk to members of your organization, what do they care about . What is concerning them as voters. Domestic workers are unable to unionize. Its illegal for them. So they talk about the need for collective bargaining and be included. Right now we have our federal bill of rights thats designed to right literally 80 years of wrongs. If youre in nevada and not talking about immigration, youre doing it wrong. That comes up over and over again. I say the last thing thats important is our folks are looking to experience Economic Prosperity personally, not just hear about it, or have people say theres a policy thats going to make a difference for them. But actually know and experience in my lives i have more money in any pocketbook or health care became cheaper, it became easier to send my kids to a good school. They dont always feel that, even if policies are meant to. You have Domestic Workers doing the work that keeps the rest of the country functioning, people working in jobs that are crucial to the economy but dont get to experience a decent life they expected that their parents may have been able to. For all working class people let me read a little bit of what you wrote. You wrote someone needs to do the nuts and bolts hands on work that keeps our country going. And those who do deserve more than hardship for their efforts. Before i just i want to read you a couple things. A guy named or ren cast tweeted he said popular perception is correct, in 1985, the typical male worker could cover a family of fours major expenditures on on 30 weeks of salary. By 2018 it took 53 weeks. And then, the 1996 grand caravan did not have features that the 2018 did not. But you still needed 8,500 more to buy them. Ive travelled all over the United States. I lived in many states. Everywhere i go, i find the people doing the work that needs to be done to keep our country functioning are treated like losers for doing it. Theres a sort of general overall attitude that has changed over the last number of years. Im a machinist, and that used to be a highly respected profession. But now its looked down upon. I get dirty at work and im proud of that. Im good at what i do. I make things. That attitude has changed and i think thats an important reason that were in the situation were in now. And just to stay with it for one minute, daniel, theres the trump argument he makes he says the industries of the postworld war ii era, machinists and steelworkers and coal miners, those things that used to provide a middle class life, he can revive them, but thats factually untrue. Do people that you talk with believe it when someone says that . Or do they want to believe it . I think they want to believe it. But i think the overall disrespect for people who works with their hands, theres going to be a continued amount of the population that works with their hands. I think they want a decent life for what theyre giving to our country. I think what theyre doing, thats whats lacking, the establishment politicians over the last few decades have forgotten about that and thats got us in the situation were in right now. And then, what is it how do you feel watching billionaires fight over this . Millionaires and billionaires . Even senator sanders is a millionaire, right . Most of the people on the democratic stage are white and rich. Right. They dont personally experience the kinds of want even mayor pete whos not rich but hes still affluent. To hear them debate about what to do with the people you work with, how do you feel about that . Its hard. I work with Domestic Workers who make on average 11 to 13,000 a year. This is not hypothetical for us. Theyre calling us to say im under employed, i cant make my rent. Then you have people talking about buying this election, i only have three houses, right, like its tough. At the same time, i do think that more than any other race that weve had in a long time, candidates are having a robust conversation about what to do about the working class. I want to hear them talk about poor people. Thats a great point. I represent poor people. Theres nothing wrong with being poor. I really appreciated what daniel said about people who work with their hands. Home Health Care Workers are about to be one of the biggest sectors of the economy, it shouldnt just be the concern of me and the people i respect that those are the next big section of jobs. It should concern everyone because right now those jobs are not well paying jobs and if the next sector of the economy is not well paying, thats going to affect everyone in our country. I want the candidates talking about the poor people, what theyre going to do, and about how theyre going to make sure people have dignity and respect. Thats what were asking for, if we have dignity and respect on the job we would see higher wages, less Sexual Harassment, we would see people who didnt disrespect us because were the nannys who take f of your kids or the women who clean your house or the people who take care of your elders. Thats some of the most important work that exists in the economy. Youre right. We have another poor peoples campaign, thats where we are in america. Its not just about the middle class and who has a 401 k . Lets talk about the poor as well. Thank you so much for being here to represent very important people in this country. Daniel and jess, thank you for being here. I want to make a quick clarification on a story we reported earlier, this misleading mailer designed to look a census form it was sent by the republican communities, it was not just sent in california, it was sent all over the country. So if you see this, it is not the census. Whats on the minds of nevada voters . Youll hear from them next as were live from las vegas. Leftovers . Tracfone lets you keep your leftover data each month. Unlimited carryover data 20 bucks. What are you doing . I want to ask you about your data. Oh, i thought you said dating. This is your wakeup call, people. The new tracfone wireless. Now youre in control. The better question would be where do i not listen to it. While im eating my breakfast. On the edges of cliffs. On a ski lift. Everywhere. Download audible and start listening today. A former army medic, made of the we maflexibility to handle members like kate. Whatever monday has in store and tackle four things at once. 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And notably, these are the first ballots in a state that isnt 90 white. More than 70,000 have already voted. They added a fourday window a hybrid caucus this year. Already approaching the 80,000 total in caucused in 2016. Tremayne lee joins me now. Im going to jump in to some of the sound, the question, the q a you did. Heres frank banitez, you asked about voting for a personalty versus what they proposed . I vote for what they propose. If i like what they proposed, thats who i will vote for. So its who can defeat trump for you . Yes. As long as the candidate has a good proposal, i dont care who they are. So no concerns, according to these voters about age and ethnicity and gender, that kind of thing . Reporter not so much, joy. We always think about the sophistication of the strategist and pollsters, but when you talk to everyday voters, they care about policy, what are you going to do to make sure my health care is suitable enough to take care of my aging parent or children . What are you going to do about the environment . Especially in nevada immigration is a top concern. What are you going to do about the idea of children being snatched from their families and put in cages. I would ask the question time and again. We started the campaigning with the most diverse field in history, you had Julian Castro, cory booker, kamala harris, does it matter were back to an all white cast and they said that matters less than the policy proposals. So for these voters, they want you to come to the community with a plan and express that plan. Absolutely. Lets play another bite. This is just to the point youre making. What these latinx voters want from a president ial candidate. Take a listen. Being nevada, having so many hispanic People Living in here, just knowing what their needs are from education to a better working conditions, immigration. I mean, theres many things. Well, my main interest at this moment is health care. Health care is your number one concern . Is my number one, yes. And so, we just were talking earlier with jess morales who was saying for a lot of workers here, its your daily life, about not being able to make a lot of money. Sounds like thats what you heard too. Reporter right. When you think about the travel and Hospitality Industry in las vegas, a lot of their time is spent making ends meet and provide for their families. When they list those concerns, their issues in order, theres still a sense that politics arent necessarily listening, even though nevada latinos delivered not just a democratic governor and both houses of the state legislature, theres a sentence that politicians arent coming to the ground and speaking about their actual issues. When it comes getting through daytoday life and policies that matter, they want politicians to hear them and do something about it. Youre headed to South Carolina next . Is that your next stop . Reporter thats right. Im in california now for the next part of our race report series, where im engaging with voters a i long the trail, going into South Carolina, the big question is which way will black voters cut, you have an older generation kind of supporting joe biden but there are a bunch of young people who are fluid. Im excited to get to South Carolina and see what folks have to say. Very excited to see your next report. We love having you do this and having you part of the show. Thank you very much, my friend. Appreciate you. More a. M. Joy after the break. Alice loves the scent of gain so much, she wished there was a way to make it last longer. Say hello to your fairy godmother alice. And longlasting gain scent beads. Part of the irresistible scent collection from gain proof i can fight moderate to severe Rheumatoid Arthritis. Proof i can fight Psoriatic Arthritis. With humira. Proof of less joint pain. And clearer skin in psa. 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Welcome to weekends with alex witt. Welcome to las vegas, candidates make the final pitches, the goal avoiding a repeat of the mess in iowa. Russian meddling part two, now trying to help the Bernie Sanders campaign. It comes after a bombshell report that russia has already begun interfering to get trump reelected. We have new reaction and details at this hour for you. Just one hour from now, the caucus doors will be open for the people in nevada to choose a democratic president ial candidate. Doors open beginning at 1 00 p. M. Eastern to voters. Alicia mendez is in las vegas today. Shes going to share the stage with me for the next couple hours. Welcome. Its the start
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