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Trump slightly higher than total viewership for hillary. Well dip back in here for a couple more minutes here to see if hes got anything new to say and well get things started. Lets take a listen. The ones done for the wedding. 33,000. Ive done a lot of weddings. I mean, how stupid is everybody . How stupid are we to hear this . 33,000 emails for the yoga. Yoga and a wedding, and they were personal. Ill bet you in this room we have people that im not a big email person. You know why . Im not a big i dont like email. I like the old days. I like the days because today they Just Announced somebodily s else was hacked. They have no idea who is doing it. These things are amazing. The kids growing up, i have a young boy barron. Hes very smart but using the computer so much. No way he can find out. So we go back about an hour later and hes playing with the computer. We had it on lock. And we said wait a minute. We had it on lock. You needed a sequential number. We said how did you do that . Im not telling you, dad. No, these kids are genius. And its getting worse and worse because they live with it. I grew up and it was a certain age they start. Now they live with it. Its like their right arm. They can do it so well. And i like the old days, especially for the military and things like that. You want to attack or you want to do something, its called courier. Its called lets put it in an envelope and hand it to the general. Lets not send it over the wire so everybody is probably reading it. Well, okay there. I think donald trump perhaps endorsing the courier pigeon method of delivering messages there. Donald trump not a fan of em l emails. Actually a nice fun, warm moment about his son barron. Donald trump discovering what all of us with kids aged 9 to 15 know, which is the kids know a lot more about technology than we parents do anyway. Lets get started with the show itself. Both campaigns have stormed the trail today. Well keep an eye on this if he says anything else noteworthy. The Clinton Kaine ticket launched their bus dur to try to lock pennsylvania down and jumpstart things in ohio. Their message today squarely focused on trump and what they say is his dark vision of america. The Republican Convention was like a twisted and negative tour. It wasnt a tour of this country. It was a journey through Donald Trumps mind, and that is a very frightening place. That is a very frightening place. Donald trump painted a picture, a negative, dark, divisive picture of a country in decline. Im not telling you that everything is just peachy keen. Im telling you weve made progress but weave work to do if were going to make sure everybody is included. The campaigns are looking at what is a highly fluid and unstable battleground map right now. Well go deeper into the battleground map later in the hour to see how serious this could shake up. We begin with the road ahead. What to watch and how to watch it. The olympics begin in one week. Labor day comes shortly after that. The race for the white house is about to freeze in place. We just dont know what place is yet. Which means next weeks slew of post convention polls are critical to at least understanding where this race is going to be. Could be the difference between a month of momentum or a month of panic. Heres how to read the bounce. Dont just examine the headtohead numbers. Look at Favorability Ratings to see if the conventions helped trump or clintons personal popularity or trustworthy numbers. Also the total support for the third party candidates. That will show you if skittish democrats and republicans are coming home to their candidate or still sticking to protest vehicles like those two third party choices. Kasie hunt is with the Clinton Kaine ticket. A new stop along this threeday bus tour. I understand youre about to get kicked out. Lets try to get this live shot before you get escorted out by security. If you see a guy in a suit with another earpiece, thats why im running out the door. But a quick note on your earlier conversation. This factory makes lincoln logs and kinects toys which touches a little nostalgic string for me. We are in the middle of pennsylvania. We left philadelphia. On our way to harrisburg. As you outlined, theres a reason why were here out of this convention. And thats because pennsylvania suddenly more in play than possibly in any election cycle in recent memory. Of course, mitt romney mades late play for it. Thinking that they might be able to have the pipe dream that is pennsylvania. More real this year. And the Clinton Campaign knows thats the case. Thats why theyre airing ads here and not in colorado, for example. Of course, its all about White Working Class voters in some of these towns where the economy has structurally changed, and a lot of them havent bounced back. This is a small factory but many large ones, towns dependent on manufacture having disappeared, and a lot of people, of course, inclined to go for donald trump. Shes here. Shes in western pennsylvania outside pittsburgh and eastern ohio which is really the same region of the country, youngstown, cleveland and we finish in columbus. All places where she was both weak in the primaries and has shown weakness in general election matchups as well. Kasie hunt on the road in the bus tour there. Thank you. Over to hallie jackson. She is at the said trump event we were just talking about. You can fill us in on what we may have missed over the last four or five minutes. What have you seen . Absolutely. And a little from the beginning of that speech. This was the moment a lot of folks have been looking to. How would donald trump respond to Hillary Clintons attacks against him last night and to those other hits against him by speakers at the dnc stage. He came out and almost immediately addressed this after, as trump often does, talking about the big crowds that have gathered. You would have seen a line of people standing behind me waiting to get in. Donald trump starting a little late. He was unsurprisingly unimpressed by Hillary Clintons speech. Would you have bet on that . He said it wasnt wonderful. He thought it was very average. But he did have praise for chelsea clinton. And one interesting note, in the beginning of his remarks, he talked about the friendship between his daughter ivanka and chelsea clinton. The two of them are close and have talked about the relationship between them and how the campaign has changed that. And trump saying he went to ivanka and said, really . Do you really like her and have to be friends with her and ivanka said, yes, i do like her and we are friends. He said it would be so much easier if you werent. Thats all weve heard from trump about last night. He has been tweeting about Michael Bloomberg calling him little plMichael Bloomberg and general allen. Its interesting. We were just noting he was talking about his rust belt strategy. Also he just seems to be in a chipper mood for some reason considering he wasnt so much last night. He seems to be very irritated. Yeah. Especially after the iowa event. We were over with him in cedar rapids and davenport. He was very, i dont want to say vintage or classic trump but angry, yelling. He did seem irritated. Talking about some of the attacks against him from previous that had happened earlier in the week. Today he does. He walked out. Jovial. Joking with the crowd. He has been on the campaign trail all week long. We dont expect to see him out over the weekend. Perhaps friday afternoon here in colorado. Heads on to denver. I thought his campaign understands the importance of doing well here. Right now it doesnt look like its on the battleground map. A lot to chew on after today, last night, last week and whats going to be a frozen race in a week. The hills reed wilson, Clarence Page and sarah fagan. All right. Lets just be simple about this, clarence. A lot there. Youve been to more conventions than any of us here. All put it i think. Im not giving you that. Okay. But in your experience, what do you think the impact of these conventions are going to be . I havent seen two conventions quite this raucous since the days of the mcgovern fight, the goldwater fight. Made covering political conventions great again. I was hoping for a quiet week after cleveland. A lot of people were. And turned out that it wasnt. But this is all indicative of what weve been talking about all along. The public is dissatisfied with the status quo. They arent clear on what kind of change thats been the debate between trump and Hillary Clinton over what kind of change they are going to bring about. And whats going to do the country the most good. And were finding splits where the republicans are divided between the trump folks and ted cruz folks. Now the democrats are divided between the bernie supporters which are divided among themselves. I talked to bernie supporters the other day and said bernie has already endorsed Hillary Clinton. Why are you still out here protesting in front of my office, in fact. And they said, well, the moonlight goes on. So bernie has created something here. Sarah, when are you ready to di jefgest the convention bounc . I think possibly by tuesday well have a sense of what mrs. Clinton got out of her convention. A lot of mixed evidence on the republican side. Donald trump just went up in the ratings. People were interested in the show he put on. Whats weird about the ratings. Democrats got better ratings every single day but the last day, which is interesting. Which is trump v. Clinton. Trump v. Clinton and also the two former president s, of course. And michelle obama. And the biggest stars in the Democratic Party were earlier. The biggest star of the Republican Party is at the end of the week. Thats probably why we saw. I was critical of our Republican Convention because i thought as many people did that it was dark and negative and he was not optimistic and never made the pivot to the general election. I thought democrats were too optimistic at times. While they had a beautifully produced convention and great speakers, im not sure that they didnt strike enough of a cord with enough americans about how they are really feeling. They may not get the bounce they hoped for. Reed, where are you . Im not entirely certainly race is going to freeze for the next month. Why is that . Because the olympics are going to be on. Everybody will be watching the olympics and while the Clinton Campaign and Trump Campaign are not necessarily up, well see a mass of ad blitz from the primary anti or pro clinton pac. The race is not going to freeze because well have one side communicating its message with nothing coming from the other side. And by the way, they arent stupid. Theyll be broadcasting during the olympics. You are assuming that these tv ads have an impact. Right. Which is this is something im not convinced that president ial tv ads will have the impact. Not the ads that the Clinton Campaign has been putting out. You pointed out, you said when looking at the polls, Pay Attention to the favorable numbers. Watch where Donald Trumps fa r Favorable Unfavorable rating is now after his convention, whatever glow hes gotten out of that. Watch where it is three weeks from now when the olympics close when the Clinton Campaign has been eating him up. Nobody is undecided about donald trump. But there are going to be a whole bunch of people who have reason to change their mind. You, nbc, have been asking some questions in your polling, very interesting questions. And getting to this group of vote chers is almost onethird that doesnt think either candidate is qualified, has the judgment, the temperament, what are those what is that third of the electorate doing . They naturally lean republican. They are more republicans in that group than democrats, which shouldnt surprise you. Right. But the problem for trump is they only narrowly lean to him. Theyre going to tell us, their behavior will Tell White House is going to win the election. You brought up a lot of the sanders folks. The most remarkable thing to me was how progressive liberal, whatever word you want to use there it was. And it felt like a speech Bernie Sanders would have been comfortable giving. Let us remember, this is the natural inclination. They were good baby boomer activists. When she was pushing for health care, for clintons Health Care Program it was too radical at the time. Shes being pushed back to where shes at. Its funny. Its like who is the Hillary Clinton thats going to be a little bit of this. We did a fun mash up of clinton and sanders. Take a listen. It is time to break up the largest Financial Institutions in this country. Wall street can never, ever be allowed to wreck main street again. Make tuition in public colleges and universities free. Make College Tuition free for the middle class and debtfree for all. A constitutional amendment to overturn the disastrous Citizens United decision. If necessary, we will pass a constitutional amendment to overturn Citizens United. She won the nomination. Bernie sanders won the platform. Imagine her frustration now that she has swung so far over to bernies side. And so many bernie supporters dont trust her still, even though she agrees with them more and they have a better shot with her. Theyre still giving her a lot of trouble. And thats especially in states where its safe. I dont know if you heard Nicolle Wallace on wednesday night, she wasnt alone. A lot of republican, particularly bush era republicans loved Barack Obamas speech. Thought he struck the perfect tone for what bothers a lot of never trump republicans. And there was an assumption that it could open the door. Did Hillary Clinton carry the no, i think she went back to the Elizabeth Warren Bernie Sanders wing of the party and had a tick list that makes republicans say, eh, i could get with you on Foreign Policy because your temperment is better than Donald Trumps but the environment, abortion, every other liberal cause, im not with you on those and im not supporting you. The democratic those two nights of the Democratic Convention, wednesday and thursday, the two prevailing theories. Persuasion elections or motivation elections. President obama said that donald trump not just him. Michael bloomberg. The whole night of it. For clinton, the bloomberg himself, john hallen, military leaders as well. Theres the persuasion side. Clinton went with the mobilization side, turn out the democratic voters. Thats been the prevailing attitude of the obama team. Thats how they won in 2008. For all the teeth gnashing, there were no signs that called him a liar or the never trump people never showed up to that convention. There werent many. The anticlinton people were there as delegates to bernie. They werent there as delegates to bernie, but nonetheless they stood they shook her up. She did miss applause lines in her speech because some of the sanders protesters they were there monday and thursday, all week. Well take a quick break. Coming up, why the battleground map is now more volatile than ever with more party strongholds on the brink. Well explain how it called all play out over the next 30 to 60 days. The new ruling on the voter i. D. Law and what that could mean for voting laws around the country and battleground North Carolina and your vote come november. Stay tuned. Americans are buying more and more of everything online. And so many businesses rely on the United States Postal Service to get it there. Because when you ship with us, your business becomes our business. Thats why we make more ecommerce deliveries to homes than anyone else in the country. The United States Postal Service. Priority you we told you what to watch in the next couple of weeks when it comes to the bounce and how to judge it. Ahead of that, lets look at what we now know about one group of democrats that would be critical to Hillary Clintons bounce and whether its a big one. According to our latest poll, among democrats, 65 have a favorable view. 20 have a negative view. Who are those 20 of democrats who are not sold on Hillary Clinton . At least before the convention . First off, just over half of them say they approve of the job president obama is doing. And 42 say they disapprove. So they are more likely to like him. All right. Maybe his speech will then help persuade those folks. In contrast, democrats who feel positively about clinton overwhelm league approve of the president. Majority of democrats with a negative view of clinton have a positive view of Bernie Sanders, nearly two out of three. So big sanders supporters, not fans of hillary. From these preconvention numbers, anticlinton democrats are split over who theyll vote for. 39 clinton. 24 said theyd vote for trump. When you include the libertarian n green parties into the question, a whopping 22 of those democrats with a negative view of clinton say theyd vote for jill stein. Well see whats happens in the polls in the coming week. But if a weeklong show of credible leaders serving as character witnesses does not move the needle for Hillary Clinton with democrats, then you have to ask yourself, nothing will. Well dig into that and what that could mean for the battleground map later in the hour. E bingestudying. E bingestudying. 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The Appeals Court concluded that the North Carolina General Assembly enacted the challenged provisions of the law with discriminatory intent. Making no bones about it saying it was essentially racially motivated. And that the restrictions quote target africanamericans with almost surgical precision. Governor mccrory said three democrat judges are undermining the integrity of our elections while maligning our state. Well immediately appeal their decision to strike down our voter i. D. Law and also review other potential options. While North Carolina voters will no longer be required to show a photo i. D. At the polls, plenty of states still have some version of voter i. D. Law on the books. Some are being challenged in the courts. Joined now by justice correspondent pete williams. The three in one week. Obviously North Carolina being a battleground state here. It can have an immediate impact. Where does this get appealed first . Is it a full they havent said. Circuit or could be a full circuit or the Supreme Court. But there are eight states that will have voter i. D. Laws in place for this president ial election that didnt have it four years ago. Alabama, mississippi, north dakota, tennessee and virginia. And then the three you mentioned that are currently in the courts now, North Carolina, texas and wisconsin. Actually only tennessee and mississippi are not currently in court challenge. Every other one is being challenged in the courts . Yes. Weve already had circuit Court Decisions on texas and wisconsin in the last two weeks. Either rolling those restrictions back or going back to the courts saying you have to soften the blow. Any of them going to the Supreme Court . They havent said yet. The Supreme Court has a sort of rule they sat down in a case a couple of years ago. The closer you get to the election, the less likely we are to take up the challenge because peoples heads are guessing oin spin. We dont want to step in at the last minute and change the rules again. The window is closing for getting to the Supreme Court. That would be a normal Supreme Court of nine justices. Now with this 44 split its not ideological over these. In the background is the courts decision in 2008 saying its not unconstitutional to require photo i. D. S. It does require theres a running consistency here in at least the circuit level that were starting to see these laws have been going too far as far as courts are concerned. Its how you put them into effect. Its more than photo i. D. S. If it was just photo i. D. , would these laws probably stay enacted . Some of them would probably. Or at least theyd change the rules for photo i. D. If you dont have the right photo i. D. , you should be able to fill out a form and have that counted later. North carolina did something extra. It had to do with sunday campaigning and almost targeting africanamerican churches. That has early voting and sameday registration. The court said the North Carolina legislature looked at how africanamericans vote and then rolled back the things that they are most likely to take advantage of. Africanamerican and minority voters are more likely to move so theyre more likely to show up at a precinct in their county but the wrong preprecinct. A systematic way of making it harder for africanamericans to register to vote. Thats what they say. Youve been covering a story that i remember covering as well. Chandra levy, the missing intern. Got linked to a former congressman back in the day. She was murdered in Rock Creek Park in washington, d. C. Suddenly charges are dropped . They were going to retry the person. Theres a report in People Magazine because you reported they just said, what did the prosecutor say . They said they basically didnt think they could prove this case beyond a reasonable doubt. There were developments in the last couple of they didnt say what the development was. And today in a People Magazine interview, Chandra Levys father seemed to hint at what it was. A witness who seemed to be compromised. This has been the problem with the case. There were no forensics here. It looked like a likely suspect to the government. He had already been convicted, had pleaded guilty to assaulting two women in the same park where Chandra Levys body was found here in washington, Rock Creek Park. But the strength of the case was bl built on a jailhouse informant. The government got new information that he admitted he made that all up, he lied. Does the prosecution still think they know who did it and they just dont have the evidence or are they now, hey, this may be an unsolved mystery . Its more the latter. The lawyer for gary condit, the congressman here, extracted something from the Justice Department today that you dont normally see. A statement that he is totally cleared. He is no way a suspect. Theres no doubt, speculations, people would go to him. His lawyer was trying to put an end to that today. Pete williams, a lot of busy times for you, sir. Still ahead, Donald Trumps town hall in Colorado Springs continues. Hes head a rally tonight in deb denver. Is he setting his expectations too high in colorado . Steve kornacki joins me. Well look at the battleground map and the various paths trump is trying to create. When it comes to healthcare, seconds can mean the difference between life and death. For partners in health, time is life. We have 18,000 people around the world. The microsoft cloud helps our entire staff stay connected and Work Together in real time to help those that need it. The ability to collaborate changes how we work. What we do together changes how we live. Donald trump i could stand in the middle of 5th avenue im Hillary Clinton and i approve this message. And shoot somebody and i wouldnt lose any voters, okay . 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Still ahead on mtp daily, Steve Kornacki and i are going to look at the different paths to 270 donald trump is trying to create. Later, what was your favorite moment from the conventions . See if your pick makes our list of best and worst. First the cnbc market wrap. Thanks, chuck. Stocks close out a month of gains though they ended mixed today. The dow falls 24 but is up nearly 3 for july. The s p ads 3 up more than 3 for the month. The nasdaq adds 7 up more than 6 in july. Not a winning session for exon mobile. The oil giant posted sales that sank nearly 60 from a year ago and fell far short of estimates. And the economy grew at 1. 2 annual rate in the second quarter. Economists expected growth of 2. 6 . Thats it from cnbc, first in business worldwide. You wanna tell me about the boy in this painting . I dunno. Maybe nobody understands him. Well, if he were here, id say that being different is what makes him special. 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This year the map could be different judging by the number of states where the winner doesnt break 55 . So looking and so could have more tossups in the rust belt states that obama and clinton carried. Or more have to be in play for the gop for donald trump if hes going to have a shot at this. Let me bring in Steve Kornacki at the big board in new york. Steve, do me this favor. Lets start with this ohio, Pennsylvania Rust Belt strategy of trumps. If he pulls it off and sweeps the Northern Tier and throw in wisconsin and michigan, show us where were at. We were talking about when we say rust belt, a particular voter where trump is doing better than mitt romney. That is economically downscale white voters. Lets look at the states on this map where you got a larger number of blue collar white voters and these are also states where it looks like barack obama may have overperformed with blue collar white voters. A lot of room for slippage and growth. This is the nbc map right now. Also including states that lean one way. Making them blue, making them red. Lets start with pennsylvania. Thats a trump target. A natural trump target. Ohio. Another state on the clinton bus tour. Iowa is right in that wheelhouse. Im not talking about polls. Just demographics. Wisconsin would be in that wheel house. Michigan would be. You see youre starting to get close to 270. Still not there. Demographically, this isnt rust belt but New Hampshire would fit that. It fits that profile. New hampshire. Right. And nevada is iffy. Not nearly as clear cut but we can just throw it in to show you what it would do. That would put you over. One other wild card here. We cant show it on the map yet. One Congressional District in maine that fits that to a t. They give them out by district up there. He could squeeze an electoral vote out of there. That would get him over 270 with all of that. He can pull this off nfd that means he could lose florida, lose colorado, lose virginia, lose North Carolina. So there is a path, but, boy, is it narrow. Thats impressive that its there. Have you seen a poll with donald trump within Single Digits in michigan or wisconsin . Thats what im saying. Its theoretical. You are looking at the demographics and saying the numbers would be there in theory. You look at michigan, wisconsin. There hasnt been any polling yet. Ive heard theorys in wisconsin, some may be residual from the primary season. Donald trump did not do well in wisconsin in the primary season. These are states you have to go back to in wisconsin, back to 84 to find a republican who won. In michigan. Its interesting. If you go back to 2004, george w. Bush got within three points of john kerry there. When you start looking at where those votes came from, he did overachieve with blue collar white voters. Bush started to go down that path and didnt get there 12 years ago. It does show, and it does with nevada and even, i agree with you, especially reno. Reno, that area looks more like the working class demographic than other parts of nevada. Thats where hed have to overperform. Its interesting. The path does exist. Steve kornacki, thanks very much. Sarah fagan, ill start with you. Im skeptical of this path, but it exists. The fact of the matter, if this is what he drives home, there is a path to 271. And its clear thats what his strategy is. That was reflective in the convention. Its hard to imagine a scenario which donald trump loses florida and wins wisconsin and michigan. I dont think hes going to win nevada if he loses colorado. So hes got to win florida, in my view. Hes got to win florida if hes going to be elected president. Thats interesting. It shows you he can trade pennsylvania for florida but it means also wisconsin and michigan and thats where were less skeptical. Were teetering on whats called the i4 corridor in florida. The swing vote area. But i certainly agree, im surprised hed be able to pull off that big of a coup. By the end of august, if he has not if we are not in single digit territory in michigan and wisconsin and suddenly we dont have paths to 270 for trump. The paths to 270 for trump are going to be wall because of the blue wall, the 18 states plus the district of columbia that have gone democratic in each of the last 16 elections. That includes pennsylvania and michigan. The interesting thing is were seeing the Clinton Campaign venture into territory the dont necessarily have to vent sbour. They have four coordinated offices open all right. You can expect to see advertising. Maybe its just a ploy but advertising in a state like georgia, in missouri, the mason dixon just came out. It has them tied. There are the fact that everybody dislikes donald trump and everybody dislikes Hillary Clinton means thats every state is a swing state. Its so unstable this battleground map. And on one hand it does feel as if he does underperform republicans in any state that is more diverse than the national average. North carolina, florida are perfect. Colorado, nevada. Sure. Particularly these younger, more diverse north carolinians becoming more diverse as a state. But, look, whats looks pretty easy, easy in quotation marks for donald trump is florida, pennsylvania, which has been consistently tied and ohio. And ohio and pennsylvania are doable. Hes got to win florida. The problem in florida shes down by more than five. Down close to double digits. Its a state thats voted republican often and more so than democratic in the past. Its a home state of Donald Trumps. He spends a lot of time there. It was an important state for him during the primaries. I remember obamas team back in 08. They saw there was a pocket there on the west coast of florida virtually ignored by everybody. They focused on that and carried the state. This is how changeable florida can be and how pivotal. Ohio is the same. Karl rove is expecting famously, expecting to win ohio in 2012 and would have if white blue collar voters had showed up. What if trump carries a lot of those rust belt states but its a losing strategy and then suddenly we have a new blue red map. Heres the problem republicans have faced for a long time. The blue wall, even if you take out pennsylvania. You penetrate it a little. Republicans have to run the table in terms of swing states. The republican version, the equivalent of the blue wall, red wall, 22 states only add up to 190 electoral sorry, 180. Only two decent size states in that wall, georgia and texas. There was a piece pointing out that people dont talk about still half the electorate, almost half the electorate is noncollege educated white voters. And he is way overperforming mitt romney in almost all those states. And thats how he gets there. No question long term the demographic change in this country do not work well for the donald trump strategy. I was going to say and the trump strategy it could work in one election. The problem donald trump has is he doesnt have to overperform mitt romney. He has to overperform george w. Bush who won twice n those electorates no longer exist. Lets take a break. You guys will stick around. Wrap up the week with the highs and lows from cleveland and philly. My big high right now, Law Enforcement in both cities. You guys did great. Thank you. Hear, hear. Stay tuned. Americans are buying more and more of everything online. And so many businesses rely on the United States Postal Service to get it there. Because when you ship with us, your business becomes our business. Thats why we make more ecommerce deliveries to homes than anyone else in the country. The United States Postal Service. Priority you if you then youll know howuth, uncomfortable it can be. 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Thats on sunday, your local nbc station. Check your local listing. We have some time shifting going on thanks to a sporting event. So make sure you know the right time. Well be back with the lid and the most standout moments from both conventions right after this. Bp drilling teams train in Virtual Reality simulators in here, so were better prepared for any situation out there. Because safety is never being satisfied. And always working to be better. Nobody knows the system better than me. Which is why i alone can fix it. Remember, our founders fought a revolution and wrote a constitution so america would never be a nation where one person had all the power. There you go. The balloons have dropped. By the way, they both did good balloon drops. The sets are broken down. Convention season is over. Halftime is over. Donald trump and Hillary Clinton are officially on the long road to november. What moments will we remember from cleveland and philly . Time for the lid. We made them all pick. Start with the rnc. Reid, your most standout moment was this. These are people who work hard but no longer have a voice. I am your voice. Why did you do that . This is how donald trump won the republican primary. Take a look at the exit polls that came out. About three quarters of voters who said their top priority was picking a candidate who told it like it was, voted for donald trump. Thats how he won the primary. He is the voice for the people who feel like they have been silenced. It was the most effective construction in that speech was when he said im not with her, im with you. I thought that was a very smart play. Clarence, here was your standout moment. This is a nation where every coin in our pocket and every bill in our wallet says in god we trust. So are we willing to elect someone as president who has as their role model somebody who acknowledges lucifer . Standout moment, yes. Explain. Im delighted to see dr. Ben carson has come out against the devil. Hes antidevil. This is kind of the old time religion aspect of the Republican Party we dont hear that much about in these days of trump, but ben carson got up there and very boldly expressed i could see some Establishment Republicans getting their foreheads, but i have to tell you, there is some on the right that is obsessed with saul alinski. The book is called rules for radicals. The irony here is the one president ial candidate who did use it as a guidebook was not clinton, not obama. It was howard dean in 2004. I will never forget. All right. Sarah, here was your standout moment. Vote your conscience, vote for candidates up and down the ticket. That would have been mine, too. It was a wow moment for a host of reasons. But it said to conservative mormons in utah, conservative christians in the midwest that it was okay not to support their partys nominee. I think ultimately, he did a huge disservice to donald trump, potentially a disservice to his own political future. We wont know that for a couple years. It was gutsy. I am always impressed when a politician puts their career on the line. He did it. Lets move to the dnc. I will go backwards. Pick your moment first. Here it is. Hillary clinton was right when she called my son the best of america. If it was up to donald trump, he never would have been in america. There were so many other ways that could have so many other parts of his speech we could have excerpted. Why did you pick that . Because when you lose a child in war, you have the right to stand up at a convention with moral indignation and lecture a politician and he did it so well, and there was literally no response to it. I think for people who have questions about the republican nominee, he encapsulated that better than anything that anyone else at the Democratic Convention said. What was amazing, the democrats didnt promote that. That wasnt a hey, Pay Attention to this. I dont want to say it was organic, but it caught fire in a way that i dont think Convention Organizers thought. He had that room, too. He really did. It was unbelievable. Clarence, this was your standout moment. Cant wait to see it. Hes trying to tell us he cares about the middle class. Give me a break. Thats a bunch of malarkey. So glad you picked malarkey. Dont you love it . Biden, this is the thing about joe biden. We underestimate him in so many ways, in the early obama days, hes just joe. No, joe biden is one of the most serious politicians around but one of the most liked people. Hes oldfashioned politician to me. He knows everybody in the neighborhood, he goes to every funeral, every wedding and he reaches people. Know what i would like to see, Hillary Clinton take speech giving classes from him. Hes so good at modulating his voice. So good at getting everyone to listen to him. He just knows how to do it. Impressive. Takes 40 years to learn that. He controlled that room, too. Reid, here was your standout moment. Imagine if you dare imagine, imagine him in the oval Office Facing a real crisis. A man you can bait with a tweet is not a man we can trust with nuclear weapons. I think you picked the right quote to pick from there, if you just judge by social media. It was the single most shared quote on facebook, i believe. Its going to be a message we hear from democrats and by the way, from the republicans for clinton and from everybody else for clinton, too, over the next 102 days. Questioning Donald Trumps fitness for office. If political logic still exists which im not sure it is applicable this year, is that person ready for the most powerful, most important job in the world is one that is asked every four years. That was a great distillation of the question. Very quickly, what was your quick low moment . 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See you sunday with a big postconvention meet the press. With all due respect starts on time. Im john heilemann. Im mark halperin. With all due respect to donald trump, not everyone voting for Hillary Clinton is little. Welcome to gotham city, the political media industrial complexs obsession with veep stakes and conventions is now over. The general election is now upon us. Today on the eve of the hundred