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Of 12yearold tamir rice. But who has the final word . Im going the speak to an attorney for the family in just a few minutes. And black or white . Are you africanamerican . I dont i dont understand the question. Seems simple enough. She claimed black heritage on her black application to secure her job at the naacp. Now her parents say its not true, shes white. Were asking you, should Rachel Dolezal keep her job as a local naacp president . Weigh in at pulse. Msnbc. Com. We start with tantalizing new developments in the hunt for escaped prisoners in new york. Today the Clinton County District Attorney gave details about the woman authorities are questioning in relation to the escapes. Specifically about all investigations that she may have passed illegal contraband to them prior to their escape. Joyce mitchell based on our investigation, has not provided power tools. She brought contraband in the facility but im not going to get into what it was. Joyce mitchell has not been arrested or named a suspect. However, as the search enters its seventh day with 800 federal state and loy call officers now involved authorities clearly believe she is a key figure in determining how richard matt and david sweat escaped. Joining me now from upstate new york is nbc news correspondent john yang. John, i want to talk about the search. Tell us about what the da is saying about Joyce Mitchell and ebbs plaining the contraband and relationship with the other prisoner sweat. If you heard, thomas he was very clear he did not according to their investigation bring in power tools to the prison to give to these two escapees. I should stress he kept saying power tools. And on sunday the head of the major of the new York State Police for this region for company b told me that they had found what he said not sophisticated Cutting Tools in the prison, which suggested to me some sort of cutting edges or cutting blades. So we dont know if that was part of it. He does say she does acknowledge she did bring in contraband to the prisoners. He said he wouldnt be specific about it. He said contraband can be anything from toothpaste to extra food to magazines, not supplied by the prison, to cocaine. When we asked him if he could be more specific he said its not toothpaste and its not cocaine. Its a pretty wide gap there that were left with. We also know the District Attorney told us that in the past 12 months there was a complaint filed against joyce with mitchell, saying that she had an improper relationship a too close relationship with donald sweat. We know from investigators that she was close also to richard matt. But they investigated, the prison investigated this didnt find enough evidence to discipline her and so the matter was dropped. It was handled internally within the prison. The da said he never knew about it until the questioning began. He said that theyre still talking to mitchell. She has, he said the information she originally gave was a little not very detailed but shes giving more and more. They do expect her to be charged. Thomas . John real quickly, we know we have new imams out of the two men and also from your reporting it seems were seeing a really hightech manhunt as we enter day seven. Reporter thats right. Theyve got the bloodhounds on the ground. The area that theyre focusing on now continue to focus on is because of that scent that the dogs picked up the other night. They also found some wrappers of food that are consistent with what food that would have come from the prison. They found bedding. Theyve also got some very hightech eyes in the sky. Theyve got lenses on these highpowered cameras on helicopters that can read license plates at 2,000 feet. Theyve got infrared devices. You know weve seen these helicopters passing over these woods at night without spotlights. They dont need spotlights. They wait for everything to cool down from the day, go over these things. They can see heat images. They can detect patterns even detect people down there. So thats what theyve got going for them. Thomas . We can tell from the shop behind you how tough the ground conditions are as it is pouring down rain as we enter day seven of the search for these two men. Nbcs john yang. Thank you. A former assistant special agent in rnlg cha of fbi, nypd joint Terrorism Task. You hear from johns reporting there about the fact that there was contraband brought in. They wouldnt be overly specific about what it was other than to say it wasnt the power tools. Do you think that mitchell remains the linchpin to the break they need in this case . Shes definitely an important piece. More and more information seems to come out every day, obviously. Theyre talking to her every day. Its been reported that they used her telephone to make calls. And she knows whatever this contraband is she sh we knows what she could have given them. Power tool or plain old and tools. They were able to get out of the prison and what is not being reported that she might have given him a phone, money, who knows. Theres a lot of other pieces that obviously the investigators are not going to say. They want to keep its ss close to the vest. Day seven, who how are the odds in their favor now as the clock continues to tick with them out there free . Under normal circumstances, more time gives them more an advantage. I mean, it shifts from a traditional manhunt to more of a fugitive investigation. But there seems to be more, you know physical evidence that the investigators are finding, the dogs are picking up on a scent, candy wrappers. Was that from day one . Were in day seven now. How old is that, the physical evidence. But that still you noekser leads, its promising. New conversation thats taking place after the Clinton County d. A. Said something provocative today. A suggestion about how it would be easier to find these two. Take a listen. Maybe we can do something to you know affect a better understanding or better means of what we have to do such as hey, lets consider putting gps units on each of these inmates in these facilities. Comes a time that they escape well, then they can be detected. How practical of a policy is that to implement . Tough question. I think there would be a lot of legal implications, a lot of people would not want to see Something Like that. I think, you know right now that debate is for something down the road. The key focus is trying to find these dangerous guys and not worry about kind of should gps be implanted or somehow these guys be wearing monitors 24 7. The coverage intensifies. Manhunt intensifies. People in the neighboring area of concern are arming up they are physically carrying guns on them to protect themselves. Thats a double. Edge sword. Right to bear arms. Want to protect themselves. If these two guys that are criminals and murderers were able to overpower them that would provide them easily with arms. Even trained professionals. Many Law Enforcement professionals get shot by their own weapon because a weapon is taken away. It is a doubleedged sword. But its every persons right to defend their property and themselves the way they feel they can. Its also a dangerous situation for Law Enforcement because as they are out searching the woods and if somebody gets spooked and they have a weapon now, you know, that just makes it even more dangerous for the searchers. Msnbc contributor, don, thank you. Were going to continue to monitor the manhunt for the two escaped prisoners. Coming up a deep dive into the longest prisones escapes in u. S. History. And a closer look at now inmates gain the system. Targeting and preying on certain prison employees through grooming. Votes are about to get under way in the house on measures related to the president s second term priority. A landmark trade agreement with asian nations. Nancy pelosi is is on the house floor as we speak and president obama made a rare personal appearance on capitol hill earlier today. He met with nancy pelosi and attended a caucus meeting in a lastditch effort to green light his fast track trade agenda. Mr. President well, you know i dont think you ever nail anything down right here. Its always moving. Despite reports of hand clapping and cheers for the president behind closed doors, Many Democrats emerged unmoved. I urge each and every member of this congress to do what is right, stand up for the working people of our country. Im going to be voting with the people that i represent. They want a no vote i vote no. The tpp will be a truly pathetic package. I urge no no no votes this afternoon. Stand up for americas workers for a change. Wow, a lot up there luke russert following the drama for us. Luke the big question is did the president s appearance make the difference that he wants. Im going to play the two different reactions. Basically the president tried to both guilt people and then impugn their integrity. I dont think it was a very effective tactic. A number of us insulted by the approach. This is our only opportunity to have a major impact to maybe change it get enforceable standards in this every second every minute of every day of his administration hes been at the forefront of fighting for workers and working families for our country. For us as a caucus now to not even give him the decency and respect and trust him a little bit, we will have plenty of time in the future to analyze and determine whether it makes sense for our district, our states our country, i think is selling this administration short. Weve got Speaker Boehner saying the best idea is to vote yes on this. So is the president s legacy deal going to be torpedoed by his own party . Its a good question thomas. Right now as you alluded to House Minority leader nancy pelosi is speaking on the floor. Before coming on with you i was listening to her speech. Its rather unintel jibl. Shes all over the place right now not necessarily giving what her position is on this issue which kind of resebl blmbles where she has been on this issue for some time because shes usually the progressive conscience of the democratic party. However, president obama wants this as a legacy issue. Its our understanding that where pelosi goes so will the party usually when it comes down to the vote counts. Im trying to decipher where she is. Shes uncomfortable about the Fast Track Authority but the real vote at hand here thomas, it gets ampcomplicated, taa, trade adjustment assistance. It helps disenfranchise workers who lose their job because of International Trade deals. What labor and progressive democrats try to do is say vote against this and it kills the entire deal. Never have the vote. Its unclear what pelosi is doing right now on the house floor. Ill get back to you later on in the show. But it seems to me that hes coming out against the overall deal and how fast its going but on this specific piece of legislation shes still up in the air. You have to Pay Attention to that. Fast. Lets have this sound we turned around for nancy pelosi and her speech from the floor. Lets listen. Its about time why are we fast tracking trade and slow walking the highway bill . We have an opportunity to slow down we all know we have to have want to engage in trade promotion and the rest of that. But we have to slow down this. It is not, whatever the deal is with other countries, we want a better deal for americas workers. All right. So it doesnt sound like shes pushing democrats to support this in the fast track fashion. Correct. And so when we talk about all of these acronyms the tpa, thats the trade promotion authority, that would fast track this trade agreement that president obama himself could negotiate. The idea is that you want to have one negotiator the commander in chief as opposed to 335 members of congress. Democrats are uncomfortable with that because if the tpa goes through, it means that theres no amendment process. We expect the tpa to be able to carried by republican vote. The question is the taa, that program i told you about earlier, which is usually a democratic priority, if they sink it it does not have enough republican votes because republicans consider it welfare. Thats the Million Dollar question. Will that program live and well know that in a few short minutes, thomas. Luke russert reporting for us on capitol hill. Controversy where a prominent civil rights leader says shes black but now her parents, theyve outed her as white. Rachel dolezal is head of the spokane, washington naacp. Shes now coming under fire for allegedly pretend took africanamerican and doing so for years. Now her parents spoke out about the situation on her this morning. Were just saying that we are, were confirming the truth. We are her birth parents. She has not explained to us why she is doing what shes doing and being dishonest and deceptive with her identity. They also revealed dolezals birth certificate proving their parentage. It stands behind her advocacy record and say racial identity is not a key tearia for leadership. Dolezal told a local newspaper its not as easy as it seems and it leads us to our bing pulse question for you. Should Rachel Dolezal keep her job as local naacp president . Vote now at pulse. Msnbc. Com. Im going to speak with the former head of the naacp in spokane to get his reaction to this story. Coming up police comb the countryside for an entire week searching for two escaped killers. So how unusual is it for a manhunt to last this long . 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Flavor at full blast the highly charged case of a 12yearold ohio boy fatality shot by a white Police Officer heads to a grand jury. This after a judge said there is enough toefd prosecute officers involved in the shooting death of tamir rice. Rice was playing with a pellet gun last november at a park. Police received a report of a person flashing a gun that was, quote, probably fake. Two officers responded and shots were fired at the preteen within just seconds of their arrive value. Tamir rices mom told nbc news months ago she was optimistic about justice being served. At the end of the day he was still a kid, 12yearold kid. Walter madison is the attorney for tamir rices family. He joins me from cleveland. Thanks for being here. The judges ruling is advisory. He cant compel prosecutors to charge the officers but does it bring the rice family sense of satisfaction or confidence the grand jury will deliver an indictment . It does. What it represents, the cleveland, it represents a blueprint of what being engaged in your government can do for you. Theres transparency in that process. And it builds trust. Its something that should be looked atlanta all 50 states as we try to narrow the gap between africanamericans and Law Enforcement. We have the attorney for officer Timothy Loehmann who the judge suggested could be tried for murder. The order issued by the Municipal Court could not impact the investigation. Do you think the prosecutor in the grand jury is likely to be influenced by this ruling though . Well, i think the focus is wrong. I think what the focus should be on is the power of the people and how being engaged in our system in a constructive and intelligent and civil way can effectuate change. This judge has been a judge for 31 years. Hes a Public Servant and he as well as the people perceive an injustice. Its very interesting to see what the prosecutors will do who are also Public Servants in honoring the peoples wishes. Its not its just a simple matter of procedural justice. Thats all that anyone is asking for. And if you cant do that its really not fair or genuine on your part to expect people to give you legitimate authority and respect you back. Tell us about the civil case. How does this influence that . Well, i think i think the crux of the matter is that at all corners is closing in on the foot dragging of the city in all respects. The judge in federal court has indicated that there needs to be an answer by these officers to the complaint. Thats a signal that time has moved on i guess, to a point where its perked where weve got to have some movement in this civil matter. In a criminal case youve got a judge probably one of the senior most judges in the entire state of ohio who has said look theres probable cause for murder warrant. And so in essence what you have is a murderer a potential murderer going to work collecting a check from the taxpayers. I think the legal scholars who have been following this and regular folks as well feel it has been moving extremely slow to get to this point. Rice family attorney walter madison. Thanks for your time. I appreciate it. Thank you. Coming up, the woman who shis seas black but her parents say, uhuh, shes white. Weve been asking you to weigh in on her bing pulse question. Should Rachel Dolezal keep her job as local naacp president . When we come back the man who used to hold that job. And what mark kirk is saying now about his epically embarrassing joke about his colleague lindsey graham. First, check out the moves on boeings latest dreamliner. The company showed off the 787s near vertical takeoff ahead of next weeks paris air show. Its almost standing right up in the air. The company says no passengers were onboard. The citi double cash card. 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Prominent civil rights agent vis in spokane, washington under fire after her parents said she is not africanamerican, as she claimed, she is white. Rachel dolezal is the local leader of the naacp and also teaches Africana Studies at the university. She made headlines in spokane in february when she said that racist and threatening letters had been sent to the naacp post office box and a reporter recently interviewed her about those incidents and asked her about her racial background. Is that your dad . Yeah thats thats my dad. This man right here is your father . Right there . Do you have a question about that . Yes, maam. Okay. I was wondering if your dad really is an africanamerican man. Thats a very i mean i dont know what youre implying. Are you africanamerican . I dont understand the question of i did tell you that, yes, thats my dad. He was unable to come in january. Are your parents, are they white . Dolezal has told a local newspaper the situation is not as easy as it seems and there are complexityies. Joining me now is the man who used to have Rachel Dolezals job. James wilburn is the former president of the Spokane Branch of the naacp. Sir, its great to have with with me. You were quoted in a jezebel article theying is a some members had doubts about rachels background and it was discussed among close members to me and we kept it like that. Is that accurate and if so why did you keep it under cover . Because it was not an issue. I mean the election was over and she was the new president and, i mean what friends say among friends should stay among friends. It was not no one planned to contest it. So it was just a conversation with some more guys you know. So nbc news sir, was unable to reach Rachel Dolezal and she had no comment to our affiliate khx but dolezal told a local newspaper that the situation is not as easy as it seems and there are complexities. She dismissed the question as by product of contentious family lawsuit. At issue today, should dolezal stay in her job or do you think she should not stay in her job . I think thats up to the executive committee of this local branch. They will determine that. Its not for me to decide. And i wouldnt want to make a Public Statement that would sway their investigation going on. And i wouldnt want to sway the investigation one way or the other by a statement that i would make. Do you have a personal feeling though about whether or not, if this woman fraudulently presented herself to attain the role, is that an improper way to go about getting the job . Well, my personal opinion would be im really trying to keep the viability of the branch, you know. Weve done some hard work in developing collaborations and partnerships with both the Spokane Police department spokane Public Schools and city hall, the mayor. And i would like to keep those relationships going with the naacp Spokane Branch. And so i wouldnt have any i wouldnt want to say anything that would damage that relationship. As an old african proverb that when elephants fight, the grass gets killed. When you look at the media frenzy right now around whats going on with the investigation, im concerned that the naacp branch, the grass, will get killed in the process. So the naacp did release a Statement Today saying ones racial identity is not a qualifying criteria or disqualifying standard for naacp leadership. The naacp alaskaoregonwashington state conference stands behind herred a have cassadvocacy. In your estimation has she done a good job in this role . I havent been keeping up with what shes been doing but i do know that theyve had europe menamerican president s in the of the Spokane Branch before. Spokane is only 1. 9 africanamerican, so its obvious that there would be europeanamerican population involved in the naacp. So i think even now it may be 50 50 with the membership of the local. Bra if not more europeanamericans. Its not unusual to a a europeanamerican in that seat. Former president of the spokane naacp, thank you, sir. Want to go back to a story were following. That is the house is now voting on the trade deal. Were going to have the first vote on the taa, 15 minutes. The second vote on the tpa. And then the third vote is going to be on trade facilitation and trade enforcement act. Were going the keep an eye on this. The house will vote separately on all of the above. But both measures must pass in order or the package to advance. So this beauty can be yours with a down payment and 10 financing. Oh larry, lawrence. Thanks to the tools and help at experian. Com i know i have a 798 fico score. Oh. Thats the sound of my Interest Rate going down. According to this score alert, my fico score just went up to 816. 816. 816 816 fico scores are used in 90 of credit decisions. So get your credit swagger on. Go to experian. 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Says she has not passed them power tools he did say the prison worker brought in contraband into the facility. Miguel almaguer is on the phone. Miguel describe what youre saying how intense this has become day seven. Good afternoon. Were three miles away from the bridge. You may hear the choppers hoovering over head here. Weve seen three or four helicopters in this area over the last several minutes. They seem to be intensifying. Their search efforts in heavily wooded area we spoke to officers who cordoned off streets here. At this point they will tell thus is another tip they are following but we can tell you they are intensifying their search for those two inmates who escaped began just a few miles away from here. Miguel, what are the fresh leads, if anything, we have the canine scent the other day but now its raining. How is that hampering the efforts . Its not a good thing for the search dogs, the search dogs depend on a fresh skrebt. Officers have been able from our understanding to be able to tell them to give them a scent for them to track but the rain does affect the scent so if the temperature so those are things that are not good for the dogs here but we know the dogs are out working. Again today they are in this area. We spotted them earlier this afternoon. Again, it appears that they are following more leads here. Well let you get back to work and check in with you later. Thank you. It is here the 2016 race weve all been waiting for. On saturday Hillary Clinton reintroducing herself with a major rally on new yorks roosevelt island. Then monday its jeb bushs turn on the launchpad. His official president ial Campaign Announcement at Miamidade College in florida. Meanwhile, today a car load of bushs republican competitors are in utah for a meeting with big gop honchos and donors. Clintons democratic rivals are not ready to concede the field. Heres Bernie Sanders talking about the trade issue with Andrea Mitchell in the last hour. It is hard for me to understand how any candidate, Hillary Clinton or anybody else cannot have a position on what is a major, major issue facing the american people. Youre for it or against it but you got to have a position. Steve is looking a the road ahead for clinton and joins me now. Its great to have you with us. It is going to be a wild weekend for clinton as she reintroducing herself. Its hard to remember that she hasnt really already done it through the facebook announcement but here we go with a bigger party. Well, its a big weekend for obviously and we can talk all about the advantages she brings to this race and tend to think about how does she matchup against jeb bush or republicans. There are hurdles shes going to have to clear on the democratic side. Hi. Hi, everybody. Weve already seen her soft launch by video, by van brought to you by massive pack of media. But now begins Hillary Clintons hard rollout. More fun. I think we have a huge fun deficit. Reporter in new york city on saturday, the first big rally, the First Official event of Hillary Clintons 2016 campaign to be held on an island just off manhattan named for a member of another democratic dynasty, and while its easy to think of Hillary Clinton as already competing in a general election governor rick perry, Governor Scott walker jeb bush. This is exactly how she looked at this stage of the race eight years ago. Tonight is your answer. For a firstterm senator from illinois proved the only sure thing in politics is that there are no sure things. This time around shell need to get through a growing field of fellow democrats and you can expect each one of them to be gunning for hillary when they face off in six planned debates. Clinton won last weeks wisconsins straw poll but only barely with senator Bernie Sanders of vermont breathing down her neck getting 41 to her 49 . Hillary has a commanding lead in the National Polls but if theres going to be a hiccup for her, or worse, its going to come early. First out of the gate iowa. Thats a contest where then senator clinton finished in third place in 2008. I see whats happening. We have to reverse it. She did better in New Hampshire, winning but this time around a neighbor from right next door vermont, is going to be on the ballot. We love you bernie and i appreciate that. I love you, too. Reporter most likely outcome, clinton wins iowa and wins New Hampshire and wins them convincingly, locks up the nomination early. Just remember when it comes to picking president s these are two states that often have minds of their own. Thomas there is a fight on the democratic side and right now you have to say the biggest worry clinton has there is probably Bernie Sanders at this point. Well wait to see what happens tomorrow. This breaking news we want to take you to now is happening in louisiana where the attorney for one of the angola three is speaking. Albert woodfox, about his release and whether or not he will be freed today. Fifth circuit, and we believe we are confident that when the merits of this case are litigated that the District Court will be affirmed. Thank you. Thats it. No further comment. Thank you. Do you know how much longer . It remains until the appeal is litigated. How long might that take . We just theres no way of knowing. Is there any time set for the start of the appeal . Theres been no briefing scheduled. Thank you guys. Woodfoxs reaction . Thats it. Thank you, guys. Were learning now that Albert Woodfox would not be released today. Federal judge this week ordered woodfoxs release, barred the state from trying him a third time in the 1972 death of a prison guard. So the state appeal as we just heard there, his attorney talking at the fifth circuit, and whats happening right now were going to check in with nbcs mark potter standing by now at the camera who heard the full account from the attorney for woodfox and, steve mark whats the breakdown . Well, Corrine Williams just came out. I dont know if you saw the beginning of her statement. She said we are deeply addition appointed that after 48 years of incarceration in mr. Woodfox will not be released today. She said that the ruling originally from the District Court freeing him was the right one. She said the facts in this case are extraordinary. Its very clear that he should be released. Now what this means is that he will be held in jail through the length of an appeal thats being argued right now. She did not say how long that would take. He will be incarcerated for the length of that appeal. And she also would not say whether there was any reaction from her client mr. Woodfox. Obviously a very disappointed legal team and the supporters will be disappointed. We have been told earlier that mr. Woodfox will be held here in this jail for the length of that appeal. He will not be going back to the state prison at angola. This is a prison with 39 that can hold up to 49 prisoners. Its a small jail. I dont mean to say prison. Its a small jail. He is currently not being held in isolation. Those are some of the things we know. And thats about it. The decision has come down from the fifth Circuit Court of appeals in new orleans that he is not to be released. We will get more details shortly. Thats the announcement right now. And again, a great disappointment on the part of his legal team. For woodfox, mark the extended order was going to run out today. How close were we to that running out . We were about 20 minutes. Everyone expected that the judge that the judges would rule. This is not a surprise that we got a ruling. And so it was anticipated, we were all here waiting for it. And a lot of people thought that because of what the District Court did that the Appeals Court would follow suit and free him today. As you can see, podium was set up for him to come out and talk arrangements were made but he is not getting out. He will not be getting out now for the length of the appeals process on whether there should be a third trial. The state wants there to be another trial, another murder trial for the 1972 killing of a prison guard, a brutal stabbing. There have been two convictions against mr. Woodfox in connection to that case. Two of those convictions were overturned. The state went back to file a third indictment. And the judge threw that out. But now its being appealed me want dont know how thats going to go. We have folks coming up to the microphone right now who is going to speak to us thomas, if you want to listen to them. Can you tell us who you are, please . My man is Stan Miller Brett millers brother. My sister wanda calendar his sister. And the only thing we really have to say is its been a Long Time Coming and were very happy that the Appellate Court decided with the das office. Youre the brother and the sister of the slain prison guard . Yes, sir. And you heard the ruling and your Immediate Reaction was what . Praise god. Yeah. Thank the good lord. You believe he belongs in jill . Yes, sir. Yes. Yes, sir. Why . What made you convinced . There are all witnesses, two court cases. All witnesses and two court cases and a jury that convicted him. Twice. Twice. And our constitutional right to have a trial by jury. And we could not understand why a jury was not accepted twice in this case. What were your thoughts about all the people who rallied together arguing that he should be released that the trial was unfair . Well, we had just as many rallying that he should not be released. But the media only covered the ones who were rallying for him and not for us. What do you make of the fact that your brothers wife supported the rulings . My brother was married to this lady only two months only two months. And several occasions shes tried to go on different deals, movie deal book deal whatever for money. And we still believe thats the reason shes done this is for money. Her view did not represent the family . No, sir, not at all. No it didnt. We havent really seen her three or four times in 48 years. Another thing, she never showed up at a court case. I think she visited his grave one time after he died. She never was present. She never went to anything to represent brent. Everything was always against brent. The issue now is whether there should be a third trial . Yes. Whats your position on that please . 100 . What do you think he can get a fair trial . Thats what the judge said with no witnesses we feel that hes had fair trials, sir. Hes already had trial by jury twice and found gullity twice. So to us he has had fair trials. The judge said there was prejudice in the case. Do you believe that. Opinion. Thats his opinion. Thats not our opinion. We have no racism or prejudices in us. Were not made that way. Were all christians. And thats going to be all. Thank yall. Can you spell your names . Spell your names for us. Stan stan. Miller, miller. Youre the brother. Brother. Yes, sir. Wanda calendar. Were hearing from them asking questions along with other media representatives that Albert Woodfox would not be released today. The brother and sister of brent miller killed 43 years ago, allegedly by the man youre seeing right there, Albert Woodfox. Hes 68 years old and said to be in poor health. We just showed a image, black and white photo of the prison guard brent miller. The order for him to be released today has been overruled and he will be held until they can further the appeals process. We heard from his attorney who came up to the microphone. As mark potter reported there had been some thought he might be released and set up the microphones to hear from woodfox but we heard from the brother and sister of brent miller instead. Were going to hear from mark potter in our next hour. We do want to return to the mass i manhunt for richard matt and david sweat. New York State Police say the focus of the search continues to be centered along state route 374. Thats in the town of plattsburgh. More than 800 Law Enforcement officers are involved in this. The search will now go into its seventh day. It is the longest escape from a new york state prison. My colleague is here now with the look at the length of other new york escapes. Not nearly as lodge as seven days. This data comes to us from the new York State Department of corrections. Community supervision. And this one by richard matt by far the longest, at the maximum security level now on day seven. Lets look back. According to this report from 2009 and 2013 there were ten escapes. Lets break those down as far as how many were captured here. Take a look as we find this out, within that time 20092013, within just six hours, five were apprehended during that time. And all were taken back into custody within just one day. Lets look even further back. Look at the escapes from 200520 09 and see how that breaks down. Nine inmates broke out of new york state prisons in that time period. How long did it take to catch them . Heres what were looking at when it comes to that breakdown. Two within five hours. Five people are those inmates were apprehended. All of them in custody within just three days here. Those numbers are quite low compared to the data we got from even further back from 20022006. And that is when 18 inmates escaped, almost double the pamt weve seen in years after. And during those years the data shows that those inmates, they were captured within 12 hours as far as bear with me here as we move this right along. Those were captured within 72 as far as the 12 hours later. And then all were taken into custody in less than four days. This is what were looking at here. The reports say that historically most escapes at new york state happen at minimum secure facility when it comes to the outside perimeter fence that medium or maximum security prisons. The last escape from inside a maximum security prison in the state business the elmira escape back in 2003 thomas. Fascinating look. We appreciate the breakdown there and much more at the top of the hour with an opportunity to speak with one of the residents whos living in the area that is the epicenter of the focus of this manhunt. What its doing to that community. Next 100 hours, meet the press Moderator Chuck Todd here to talk about the big week in politic that is we have all been waiting for. 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So that little gash it required some stitches and what happened before tipoff that set fans on social media abuzz as lebron tucking in the jersey, a cameraman overshares the kings jewels with an accidental full frontal shot of the bballer. A tough night all around. They lost 10382. If you think thats awkward, try this on for size. An illinois senator making a mistake all of us wearing microphones for a living know to avoid. Never forget that the public is listening. I always forget. Well hopefully not going to the bathroom. Listen in this situation. Republican senator mark kirk regrets the joke about the single colleague lindsey graham. Listen. Ive been joking that he doesnt have a have a rotating first lady. Hes a bro with no ho. That last part yeah that did it. He said that he regrets the comments and leading opponent was quick to pounce. Tammy duckworth launched a fund raising come pain writing in a letter on duckworths behalf saying this kind of sexist language has no place in the u. S. Senate. Microphone or not. So coming up at the top of the hour return to the breaking news and thats the hunt for matt and suite. The new leads for two convicted killers who escaped from prison in upstate new york. We have details of the woman suspected of helping them. Drama on the hill. The first of three votes on the trade bill fails to pass after president tries to drum up support for it. Was it call for naught. Another arrest in the terror plot in boston last week. Authorities charging the conspireing to behead the woman behind the draw mohammed contest in texas. Well dive into that and more. When it comes to good nutrition. Im no expert. That would be my daughter hi dad. Shes a dietitian. And back when i wasnt eating right, she got me drinking boost. Its got a great taste and it helps give me the nutrition i was missing. 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Plus, new information about the woman who allegedly helped them escape and may have been involved with both inmates. A fast track trade bill in jeopardy in the house business the first of three votes just failed miserably making democrats less likely to support the measure. Nbcs chuck todd will join me. Also ahead are you africanamerican . I dont i dont understand the question. A prominent ncaap leader accused of lying about her race. Were asking should she keep her job as a local naacp president . Weigh in now. Well have your results this hour. Hi. Im thomas roberts. We start with upstate new york and how Authority Notice that area in the seventh day hunting for the two escaped convicted murderers. Today, they released new photos of the men highlighting richard matt and david suite. Identifying them with the tattoos they have and more information on the prison worker investigators are speaking with in regard to their escape. Joyce mitchell has not been charged with a crime or named a suspect. However, today the Clinton County d. A. Will provide new details. Andrew wiley says while mitchell did not transport power tools per se into the prison alleged that mitchell brought something inside. She brought contraband in the facility and but i wont get into what was. We want to go ahead and talk about what this is goingdoing to the People Living around the search area of new york. Clark currier is a resident there. What have police been telling you and other residents about how to protect yourself and also to stay informed about the search activities . Well tom, right now my company is right by the 374 roadblock where all the satellite trucks are set up so were getting a little bit of information from them and plus from the troopers that are manning the roadblock. Pretty much keep theyre asking us to keep all our outside lights on keep your doors locked. Stuff like that. Report anything unusual, such as clothes missing from the line any vehicles missing. Any food missing. That type of thing. So how tense are you . How tense are your neighbors . Well its its getting gradually more intense. The whole situation up here. The choppers last night, theyve used the imaging, the thermal imaging radar so theyre flying 24 7 yesterday. Which were very Rural Community so were not used to hearing any traffic on the road let alone flying over the top of you. And we got two very dangerous people in the wild and we dont know where they are and we know when where they werent but we dont know where they are. So its concerning. Clark thank you, sir. We appreciate your insights as someone living through this. Nbcs john yang is joining me now from morris sonville, new york. Reporter well, its hampering and helping a little bit right now, thomas. Within the last half hour we have reports from others in an area further away from us of increased activity especially in the air. The way theyre keeping us out of this perimeter, we cant see much on the ground but we can see in the air and as you see the weather is not great today. The ceiling is low but its high enough that theyve been able to get those helicopter assets into the air. If you think of this search area as a triangle the prison in dannemora, were at one corner we are at the southeast corner. The activity seems to be at the Southwest Corner about as far away from us as you can get but what were hearing is that the helicopters seem to be guiding the searchers towards something. Now, the helicopters that were let me start on the ground. The bloodhounds need fresh scent. Sometimes the wet weather can hurt. This cool wet weather can actually help with that thermal radar that the caller was talking about. It the different shl between the area the atmosphere over and the body temperature is increased so it makes it easier to spot people so we know that theres a helicopter up there and thats maybe what theyre using. And so, john do you know when we talk about how hightech this is from especially the air and the images of canines on the ground and other teams of investigative force that is are out drag dasnetting this area have they been able to concentrate on one specific spot . Its not that my sense that im getting, obviously, we are not getting a lot of details but the sense im getting from putting all the pieces of what were hearing together is that its not that concentrated. That it is an area where theyve had some good hits. They have had some good hits on scents and physical clues. There are wrappings from food consistent from what food you would come from inside of a prison. They found bedding. And i think all of those things have led them to this general area and then specific tips from people sort of direct them into various places and i think with that they feel theyre narrowing in. Nbcs john yang for us in new york. Thanks so much. Now special former agent in charge of the fbi nypd joint Terrorism Task former and a former atf officer. Matt we are in the seventh day of this search for these two escaped murderers. Do you think that they are this good or theyre just getting lucky . I dont think theyre getting lucky. What you are seeing is Law Enforcement take a very aggressive approach but a very deliberate approach. Theyre using grid searches technology. Theyre using bloodhounds. Theyre using troopers agents. S. W. A. T. Teams and theyre going through this thing very meth logically. Attention is given to Joyce Mitchell. Not arrested or named a suspect but a wealth of information. What do you make of what the d. A. Said today about the contraband she brought in not specifically power tools but Something Else . Well whether its power tools, hand tools, it was enough to help these guys break through a prison wall and escape. So, you know the other thing is what are they not saying publicly . In addition to tools, did she give them a cell phone . Did she give them money . Are there other instructions . Did she have some knowledge about where they might be going . These things are very important. Shes very critical right now in this information. I know they continue to speak with her every day and we learn more and more. The d. A. Touched on mitchell and Something Else about how they could help with this in the future. About future escapees. They can a listen. We dont have that sound queued up. But apparently the d. A. Talked about putting a gps tracking device into prisoners. Matt, do you think thats a good idea . Do you think that policy would fly in the future . Well i think right now you have the technology. With cctv and other things in place. I dont know that it would or not fly but relationships need to be paid to inmates, contractors and guards. Mitchell admitted that she was going to be the getaway driver and popping up out of that manhole and she wasnt there, they had to go with whatever their plan b was going to be. So if they didnt have her to depend on an theyre only depending on themselves and on foot, they dont really have survivalist training. Its rainy, cold. It would that they must have some backup plan of another person on the outside that could be helping them. Possibly not because if they were depending on her and if that relationship was such that they knew they could count on her, they may not have even developed a plan b. They dont have a reputation for being a survivalist. Theyre in the adirondack mountains. They could be walking in circles night after night after night an enthats why part of the reason why i think Law Enforcement has a good handle on a general location of where they might find them. Why not arrest mitchell . They need to keep speaking with her. Shell obviously be able to he can get an attorney now and make it is stakes that much higher. She is cooperating. No need to rock the apple cart right now. And then worry about the legal issues after shes given her story. All right. Gentlemen, thanks so much. I really appreciate it. So we have been watching the fastmoving developments over the hour on the hill. The house voting now on a fast track trade bill and not looking good for the president s trade agenda. Luke russert is on the hill. Bring us to speed on the very latest because if the taa doesnt go there that means theres nothing for tpp. Reporter this is the most wild mess i have ever seen, gone forward on the house floor. Im going to try to walk you through it. Walk with me. Im with you, buddy. Lets go. Reporter so tpa, the fast track approval for the transpacific partnership, the overall trade deal that just passed on the house floor with 219 votes. However, the way in which the procedure was written for that to occur was that taa, the trade adjustment assistance that bill that would give help to workers disenfranchised by job loss to occur from the overall trade bill would have had to pass too. That bill went down after nancy pelosi out of nowhere came out against it strongly. It went down hard. Most all democrats voted against it. However, we were under the impression that if that bill were to die then the next one the tpa couldnt go forward. Kevin mccarthy, the Republican House majority leader switched it up and moved forward and now told that this in fact can move forward if theres a revote on that taa that happens before tuesday. So were kind of scram bbleing here to figure out the parliamentarian procedure is and the twitter posts of pelosi against the president , it seems to me that despite the infighting within the democratic party, obama might get one more shot ahead of tuesday to try and push this through on another taa revote. Its very confusing. Trying to figure out what it means. Overall, more likely than not, obama gets another chance at this. Dont believe all the stories about the death of this bill quiet, thomas. Okay. Theater taking place on a friday afternoon there on capitol hill. Luke thanks for walking us through it. Well have much more on this coming up with nbc meet the press Moderator Chuck Todd here for what it means for the president and will he make it go through next week casino. 100 hours in the race for 2016 we have been waiting for. Hillary clinton and jeb bush both officially kicking off their campaigns. 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President obama lobbying Congress Today and were just finding out from luke this is all playinging out the theater of it all. Its potential to live on next week. What do you make of all of this . Well look. It could live on to next week or send it back to the senate or maybe without the trade assistance. But remember let me explain why nancy pelosi said she was sadly voting against taa. The entire idea of taa, the trade Assistance Program to get democrats, reluctant democrats to support fast track so thats why she said she was sad, the idea behind it shes supportive of it but she doesnt want to see fast track move forward. She knew clearly what that tells me is she knew as we found out the lates for fast track were there in Congress Just not this. So, look. I think it tells you a couple things. Number one, labor still has a little bit of teeth left in them. Its a movement with shrinking membership and National Impact but because of the way the House District lines are drawn, everybody is in a very partisan district now, particularly the democrats remaining. Remember any sort of swing voting democrats most of them drubed out in 2014. So you have only democrats representing very democratic districts so labors threats were very real to them. So i think thats number one. Two, i have to say, you know, the president a lot made of the president going up there, trying to whoo democrats in last 48 hours but the seeds of the white house and congress the seeds of this very tepid to bad relationship, were planted seven years ago. This has never been a great relationship. He didnt theres a lot of things he could have done better over the years and cant help but wonder if this is the consequence. Talking back to the future go way back to the future because we have big things going on this weekend. Bernie sanders was on Andrea Mitchells houring and hitting about Hillary Clinton not having a real position on trade but Hillary Clinton and the Campaign Launch on saturday and then jeb bush coming out on monday. What do you make of the big media events and finally going to be in it officially with the big fan fare that we have seen for the others . Whats interesting is both campaigns believe they have to do the same they have the same challenge in frnt of them and both are going to try to use the announcement speeches to begin dealing with the challenges. And one is to reintroduce themselves. Right . They both have famous last names but if you talk to both campaigns they say you dont know the real Hillary Clinton or you dont know the real jeb bush. Jebs not his brother. Hillary is not bill. You hear this a lot from both. So obviously what both have to do with their announcements is try to introduce themselves as not with their last name so literally with hillary its you hear a lot about Hillary Clinton rodham, a lot about her mother dorothy rodham. With jeb bush his days in florida. Probably hear a lot about his family, his personal family which is a hispanic family. His mexicanamerican wife. I think both have the same challenge ahead of them using the announcements to deal with that challenge. The question is whether voter wills buy it. Chuck todd thank you. Hearing from Kelly Odonnell that voting stopped for the week. You can catch chuck this weekend on meet the press because if its sunday its meet the press. Thank you. Appreciate it. The 2016 president ial field seems like its growing by the day. We have ten republicans in the race and four democrats and including Bernie Sanders who spoke about why hes running in a field that includes the frontrunner Hillary Clinton. Im not running against Hillary Clinton. I am running to take on a billionaire class which has enormous power to make sure that every kid in this country regardless of income gets a college education. Bernie and hillary not the only candidates out there. Francis with a list in the hundreds for the white house. Yeah. Close to 400. What you were just counting right now, that was 14 right . But lets go into the hundreds. 400s. Nearly that number of people who have filed a statement with the federal election commission. Most have absolutely zero chance of winning and really amusing to see the colorful cast of candidates out there. Bring them to you and lets start with this lady. Princess kadeisha from california. And this is her official statement of candidacy. And a part of the form you will see right here this is the section where youre supposed to name the president ial campaign committee. Look what she writes. 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So these are just some of the people of 400 here or nearly 400 hoping to get in on this president ial race. So how can you get in on it . You at home thomas you, too just be a u. S. Citizen at least 35 years old, fill out the required forms and doitd online. I cant. Im only 34. Of course you are. The only requirement is raise or spend more than 5,000 and less than 10 of the almost 400 registered people have done that. So far. So were already saying you know how will you manage the debates and fit them . How do you give them equal time with the characters . Just for the sake of amusement, i guess, good fun tv you could add them as well thomas. Im glad you had to read the names and not me. Those are hard ones. Thanks so much. Also ahead, well talk about the list of highprofile prisoners, the last one known in the angola 3. Albert Albert Woodfox still in prison. Plus a new arrest in a plot to attack boys in blue in boston. 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At this stage, the only outcome that could serve the interests of law and justice would be mr. Woodfoxs Immediate Release and we are so sorry that that did not happen today. Nbcs mark potter in st. Francisville, louisiana, we heard from the family of the slain prison guard, brent miller. Reporter we did. It was a pretty exciting few minutes here about 20 minutes before he could have walked out this door had the ruling gone the other way, the attorney whose clip you played walked up here to the microphone announced the ruling had gone against him. Mr. Woodfox would remain in jail for the length of appeal going to be argued over the next few months over whether he would have a third trial in connection with the 1972 stabbing death, a brutal death of a prison guard, brent miller. His family members spoke. The sister and brother of the prison guard and they said that they supported the appeal court ruling. Lets listen to what they had to say. The only thing we really have to say is its been a Long Time Coming and were very happy that the Appellate Court decided with the d. A. s office. Reporter now, the attorney general who also argued to keep mr. Woodfox in jail and whos appealing a ruling that there would be no more trial issued a statement, the office saying we are pleased with the courts decision. The inmate should remain in custody. Always been the states priority to ensure justice for the brutal slaying of brent miller. Again, the prison guard. And to hold accountable this murderer who has an extensive history of violent crimes. We are told that the prisoner will remain here in this parish jail and not going back to angola for the length of that appeal. We dont know how long it takes. But the estimates are it could easily take months. Back the you. Mark potter in louisiana, thanks so much. We want to go the White House Briefing room and i understand josh earnest is talking about capitol hill and the stalled trade deal that the president wants to see pushed through. Thats the reason he got this job in the first place. Thats the reason he was reelected into this office three years ago and its what he is going to continue to keep at the top of the agenda for 18 months and if were going to walk the walk coming to those progressive values then its going to be important for democrats and republicans to come together around trade adjustment assistance. This is a program that will lapse on september 30th. Thats a problem because republicans have traditional opposed trade adjustment assistance and republicans enjoy significant majorities in both the house and the senate and if democrats want to make sure that were looking out for the interest of middle class families, we need to make sure that this that trade adjustment assistance doesnt lapse. The good news is we are not just going to extend the program. Well significantly expand it. The proposal before the house right now would nearly double that program in size. And according to an analysis put up by the white house today this is actually a program that will benefit 100,000 American Workers each year for the next six years. That is a substantial benefit to middle class families willing to go and make sure that they can get the training and skills they need to compete for good middle class jobs. Thats always been at the top of the policymaking agenda. It is today. And it continues to make that case in the house to build a bipartisan majority in the house for that legislation. Thats a slightly longer windup than i intended but why dont we go to your questions now . Lets start with leader pelosi. Okay. How does appointed is the president that she turned against the legislation after remaining uncommitted for so long and made a personal appeal to her. What happened there . Well the the president has enjoyed a very long warm productive relationship with nancy pelosi. As the speaker of the house, she helped shepherd in one of the substantial progressive legislative agendas in history. That on her watch working closely with president obama we pre prevented a second great depression. We reformed the Health Care System in a way that it has benefits of which are becoming clearer every day and bigger every day. She presided over house of representatives that voted to reform wall street. To make sure that taxpayers would not be on the hook for bailing out big banks that make risky bets. She works legislateively with the administration to end dont ask dont tell and achievements that the president is proud of. Achievements that required the skillful leadership of then speaker nancy pelosi. Since that time there have been other important theres been additional important progress on other priorities the president s identified from the fiscal cliff and making those at the top of the income scale were paying their fair share to protecting the president s ability to prevent iran from obtaining a nuclear weapon. You know i dont know if anybody wants to talk about the iran negotiations today, but if they do one of the points of emphasis to remind you of a letter written and signed by just about every democrat in the house of representatives, the president feels confident that hell be able to use deploem sy to prevent iran from obtaining a nuclear weapon. Theres an active effort by some in congress to try to interfere with that ability but since House Democrats have signaled theyre prepared to stand strong with the president , we think we can accomplish that goal. I dont think anyone that suggested that priority is threatened with a disagreement over this particular issue. Well make an aggressive case to the House Democrats including leader pelosi yitds important to support trade assistance. Whats the president going to do to try to turn that around with the next vote . Well, the president has spent a lot of time talking to members of congress about these issues being a priority. And the fact is as i mentioned at the top, making sure that workers have access to trade adjustment assistance is a top priority of the president s. The truth is its a top priority of every democrat, too. Last time on the floor of the house of representatives it wasnt just a situation Many Democrats voted for it. Every democrat voted for it and 195 members of congress who democrats who were still in office. So, and as i mentioned earlier, were not suggesting to merely renew. Were suggesting or four years ago, were suggesting that they should actually support a legislative package to enhance it. It would almost double the size of the cap. Freeing up additional funds to help workers. It would allow 17,000 workers who over the last 18 months had the eligibility for trade adjustment assistance denied to allow them to have the applications reconsidered again. We have been listening to josh earnest talk questions of what took place on capitol hill today as the vote on taa failed and nancy pelosi said that she was sad to say to be voting nay on that. Tpa passed and now we have john boehner saying hes going to bring back a vote for the taa coming up next week to see if these two can move together. This is after the president made that rare appearance on capitol hill this morning to lobby for the efforts the move through. Want to move back now to the top story and that is more than 800 officers now descended, working in unison to hunt down these two escaped prisoners from upstate new york. Nbcs john yang reported in this hour helicopters with sensors focused on an area east of the prison. This is the Clinton County d. A. Gives us new and more information on the prison worker authorities are questioning in relation to the escape. Joyce mitchell is not named a suspect or charged with a crime. However, the d. A. Indicated today she transported some kind of illegal contraband to the prisoners prior to the escape. Adam riece is in new york. Vermont within distance of this search area. The governor spoke out about what the concerns are for his state. But authorities are on high alert and you visited Homeland Security there today. What did you learn . Reporter right. Well, we still think theyre in this area. The perimeter south of where i am, east of the prison. A fivemile perimeter. This is area dhs is focused on. Containment and saturation. Now theyll saturate it. They have 800 Law Enforcement officers, federal, state, local, literally grid by grid inch by inch. Now, this is some very difficult terrain and you see the weather around me. The weather has been awful all week. Rain, cold. Theyre going inch by inch through this terrain. Its heavily wooded area. Some of these officials told us you cant see ten feet in front of you. Now, dhs gave us a tour of their facilities. They showed us their assets. The dogs searching out there. That may have picked up a scent as well as from the air. They got a new blackhawk chopper in yesterday using that. They told us what they can and cannot see from the air. Heres what they had to say. Take a listen. This particular grid thats been identified just southeast of dannemora is heavily forested, rocky, dilt to traverse so that combined with humidity, rain you know the geographic allayout makes it difficult for a sustained search and trying to keep the folks fresh. We dont want them going in there tired and then having a possible encounter with these foeblgs and not at the maximum capability. Reporter now, the elements dont get better tonight. Theres concern both for the escapees in terms of where they can move to and the people searching for them. The temperatures going to drop below freezing tonight and could get down to 20 and the weather is not helping. The terrain is rough, woody. Storms over past ten year that is made the area more difficult to comb through. Thomas . We can see the rain pouring down right now. Adam thank you. We are joining by can disdelong. You have been inside the Clinton Correctional Facility as recently as last summer. Tell us about the conditions there and the working relationship between those prisoners and the prison personnel. I didnt witness a tremendous amount of firsthand witness of interactions between prisoners and personnel. But for the little that i did see, i have to tell you i was surprised when i heard that this happened. That huge wall that you see in the videos goes up 40 feet. It also goes down 40 feet. Than they told me last summer theyd never had an escape. In the hour and a half i was there interviewing a man for the crime that he was convicted of murder, in that hour and a half there were three alarms went off and prison personnel was running to the area in full almost what i would call s. W. A. T. Gear. Its a very secure maximum security environment there. No sounds like its pretty intense and obviously your assessment of what to physically see by the walls itself it sounds impossible to escape from and here we have two men able to accomplish that. Yes. But it seems as if mitchell really is the lynch pin here to being the person who cannot only give the investigators the insight they need about the mindset of these men, but also the proper details about what she was able to assist them in for their own escape. I was surprised to hear that they believe she brought contraband in. I can tell you that when my camera crew and i went through, we were searched all our equipment was searched. It took at least 45 minutes to get in. And leaving, they did the same thing. I was surprised to hear that this happened. I was also there when we were checking in the prison personnel going through the same procedure. They cant just walk in with a backpack or a purse. It has to go through the xray machine. Was there for you guys obviously you were a larger group coming in but a checklist, not just on the way in but out and inspecting to make sure that everything that you were approved to take beyond their walls was also being removed back outside the walls. That is correct. Its amazing. We continue now on day seven the search for these men as they continue to allude investigators. So far former fbi profiler can disdelong, thank you for your insights. The fbi made a second arrest in a plot to kill Police Officers in boston. 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Rachel is the local leader of the naaacp spokane, washington and coming under fire as her parents said she is not africanamerican as she claimed. She made headlines in february claiming racist and threatening letters had been sent to the naacp post office box and a reporter interviewed her about it and asked her about her racial makeup. Is that your dad . Yeah. Thats thats my dad. This man right here is your father . Right there . Do you have a question about that . Yes, maam. Okay. I was wondering if your dad really is an africanamerican man. Thats a very i mean i dont know what youre implying. Are you africanamerican . I dont understand the question of i did tell you that, yes, thats my dad. And he was unable to come in january. Are your parents are they white . Shes told a local newspaper the situation is not as easy as it seems and complexityies and questioning if she should step down as an naacp leader and the bing pulse question of the day. The pulse is live. Keep voting. Joining me is trisha rose chair at brown university. Great to have you with us. We spoke to the former president of the spokane naacp in the last hour and said that this was a question that had come up about her raise while she was about to be put in this role but it wasnt a question so much that alerted or alarmed them. Take a listen. It was not an issue. I mean the election was over. And she was the new president. And i mean what friends say among friends should stay among friends. It was not no one planned to contest it. So it was just a conversation with some guys. You know . For this branch of the naacp, do you think thats the right approach not make a big deal about it . If they heard about it so what . Yeah. It seems to me that there have been nonblack naacp heads in various parts of the country before. It is not a requirement that you be africanamerican to lead. In any way. In fact, its been a multiracial organization from the beginning but i do think its important people represent themselves honestly and the honesty given in this organization thats trying to produce Racial Justice and to deal with the history of the hostileity hostility, hatred and discrimination of black people theres a clear understanding about what peoples identityies are and what position from when theyre speaking but not a prerequisite. We got this statement saying ones identity is not a criteria or disqualifying standard for leadership. The naacp alaska oregon state conference stands behind ms. Dolezals advocacy record. Should the question be about whether or not she checked off the wrong boxes on the application . Well, im not sure she checked off the wrong boxes by mistake. I mean theres still a lot of information unfolding and seems quite clear she is behaving and identifying in ways that would lead people to believe that shes africanamerican. And in the other footage you showed shes uncomfortable discussing this question which strikes me as quite odd. If youre going to be africanamerican in your mind then why not actually follow it all the way out . But shes caught in a gap here and i think she should have to explain that. But, you know i dont think she should in the cases where she signed, you know participated under the grounds of identifying as africanamerican on the citys committee as an africanamerican thats troubling because, you know now we are seeing there might be opportunities for africanamericans to participate that have been denied that are being redressed by inclusion. So for her to take the slots up seems problematic. Running the naacp, you think she would be aware of that and want to give more opportunities to africanamericans with discrimination. Thats the point. There are some complexities personally going on with her family as the parents have been out speaking about this outing her and her heritage. Yeah. Trisha thank you for your time. I appreciate it. My pleasure. Thank you. Today at 3 00 p. M. Eastern, the case for and against closing the prison at Guantanamo Bay in cuba. But first, collin quinn joining me here in studio to talk about Political Correctness in comedy. Going to get his take on dolezal and whether or not she should keep her job with the naacp. If you read this thing, hes coloring outside the lines big time. Song Rachel Platten fight song two million, four hundred thirtyfour thousand three hundred eleven people in this city. And only one me. Ill take those odds. Be unstoppable. The allnew 2015 ford edge. When youre not confident your companys data is secure the possibility of a breach can quickly become the only thing you think about. Thats where at t can help. We monitor Network Traffic worldwide, so we can see things others cant. Mitigating risks across your business. Leaving you free to focus on what matters most. You know the importance of heart health. 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This book you know youre coloring outside the lines. Yes. I said that in the tease and trying to have a serious dialogue and also highly vulnerable in the book because its personal stories. Yeah. I wanted to i dont have obviously enough grafitas personally and i have to put it together for a memoir diatribe. What is your makeup . How do you identify . I identify as the new head of the naacp chapter of spokane. I understand theres an opening. There is and thats the bing pulse question of the day. Francis, you have been tallying how we are going here. Colin, wlooklook over. Should she keep her job . 61 of people say, yes, she should keep her job. 39 say, no. You know what . Not the matter of her holding that position and her ability to do so but misrepresented herself, you know in that role. So this is what people are saying as far as our viewers go. Yes. What people dont talk about, too, there are no black people in spokane and she is actually you know most street cred in spokane. I think 1. 9 . There you go then. 1. 9 . Your friend Jerry Seinfeld said he wont do College Campuses anymore because its too pc. Do you agree with that . I agree hes not doing College Campuses. I dont know that they afford big jerry anyway. Yeah. That theyve been pc for a long time. It spread from there. College campuses and like whats going on here . This is strange. How can we have better conversations in the country about race and ethnicity if were trying to be too polite . Thats the problem. You need people that dont get along with each other to have the conversations. You know what im saying . So youd have to put it like people in shadows and i know it sounds absurd for the first year until they get used to the dialogue because now aways people, they wont have it. Its just everything is a commission forming moment. Every time somebody says something thats not exactly correct, 100 inclusive, people really do say, its time to study whats going on. If you Say Something that is a little bit out there, most of the times people have to backtrack an apologize. You cant take the conversation to the next step. Yeah. Because in here you talk about the fact you wish that you were jewish and the fact that you want to be an irish drunk poet. Yes. You have a lot of things going on inside that body. Yeah. I feel like a lot of people do that. You just look at all the different groups i want to be them for six months or them. Its a normal thing that people dont talk about except Caitlyn Jenner apparently talked about it and brought it another level. Whole new level. We think about it. Not that in particular. So one thing that we do know is youre in a new play colin quinn. Jerry seinfeld is directing it . Yeah. Youre good buddies. He is a huge supporter. You were on Remote Control. He might be. That was a dealbreaker at the time. I think, you know. I love how you dish the dirt in this book on Remote Control and if youre a genxor like me and talking about you talk about a lot of things. Yes. Coke. You talk about drunks. You talk about chicks with sharp ie sharpies. I wasnt doing it. I was finished at like 19. Thats the problem. You had a good run until 19. Now on a ep ekn epic run. em a big fan. The coloring book. Although theres nothing in here to color. I have no crayons. I may put out a separate book some day. And an addendum. Thanks so much. That wraps up our show here today. Until then keep the information going on social immediatemedia. The cycle is up next. Woman its been a journey to get where i am. And i didnt get here alone. There were people who listened along the way. People who gave me options. Kept me on track. And through it all my retirement never got left behind. So today, im prepared for anything we may want tomorrow to be. Every someday needs a plan. Lets talk about your old 401 k today. 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Heres what we know right now. The search remains centers three miles or so from where suite and matt escaped. More than 800 officers and agents are combing through thick brush to find them. Attention continues to so you should clin con correctional employee Joyce Mitchell who sources close to the investigation say agreed to be the getaway driver before getting cold foot