Duly elected members of congress is not consistent with ed being an ally or a democracy. And ensure the full rights for palestinians. Joining me now is governor who is scheduled to be congresswoman omar and tlaibs tour guide. That aims to raise awareness about communities in the west bank that live under military occupation. Thank you for joining us. I think the world is curious to understand what you were going to show these two congresswomen in their plan to come and visit israel and the west bank. Yeah. So, its great to be on the show. And, you know, weve been around for 50 years. We are a group of israeli vets. I served as a paratrooper in the west bank. And our group have actually started in the city of hebron. A bunch of soldiers who served there back in the years of 2000. Through their experiences they came out and decided to share what actually it means to maintain military control over another people. Weve been conducting tours in the city. That was exactly what we wanted to show the congresswomen there. I mean, hebron is the largest, one of the largest palestinian cities in the west bank, and the only city where in the heart of it youll find a settlement of 750 israelis guarded by more or less 650 Israeli Soldiers. And because of that reality, since the mid90s after a massacre that was committed by a selter from an adjacent settlement where 29 palestinians were murdered, the city is going through a destruction process. Basically the city center of hebron has turned into what i think no one can describe as other than a ghost town. We were expecting to show the congresswomen this reality on the ground and share with them our experiences and actually explain to them i think the complexity of this reality that were trying to highlight because this reality in hebron is no one knows enough about. And we, we believe, are positioned well to actually shed a light on that. So heres the situation. You were a former military member. Many of the group breaking the silence your Group Humanitarian organization, a political organization, were members of the Israeli Defense forces. There are organizations in israel made up primarily of jews, israeli citizens, who are critical of the occupation or some of the effects of the occupation, none of which makes any of your antisemites. No. Obviously, its sometimes absurd to follow the twitter fights that are going on, on the other side of the pond. I believe as an israeli that sees himself as an israeli patriot, i love my country, i do what i do for the sake of my country. I just think that it doesnt make sense in 2019 to maintain the military control over millions of people by force. And i think that in that sense the Israeli Military occupation is a jewish problem, is a problem that me as a jew i have to deal with, and i have to think about day in and day out how i can fix. I think part of the reason that we agree to meet the congresswomen was to come in and say, look, obviously millions of palestinians are suffering under military control. But this is something that i have a responsibility for. Its not only something palestinians have to fight against but israeli jews and jews around the world. And there are people who are doing that, and obviously i would say its opposite from antisemitism, which is a real threat. But it has nothing to do with the work that obviously we do or any occupation activist is doing. Other things that youre going to show them, and they learn from you and they leave, what would success what would they be thinking . I assume theyre not going to be leaving hating israel, theyre going to be leaving understanding some of the complexity that youve tried to describe here in a couple minutes of what that occupation looks like on the ground for jews, for israelis, for muslims, for arab, christians, everybody. Yeah, totally. Alongside meeting us, they were supposed to meet with some of the palestinian activists in the city. Some amazing activists that have been working together with us on various issues and meeting some of our groups. And i think that thats part of the reality thats important to get away from the city of hebron. Many people talking about the reality on the ground talking about the occupation are sort of shying away from diving into the nittygritty. And i think when you go to a place like hebron, when you walk on the main street of this city, what used to be the main market area, and you walk through a street that Israeli Soldiers called a sterile road. And its sterile from palestinians. There are places where palestinians literally cannot leave the front door of their house. Some of our friends remember that running through the streets and in through doors. And today its basically a closed market. I think taking away from that city with the complexity of the reality, with the different political players is that there is something that is simple, and that is that maintaining military force over a civilian population is something that has to end yesterday, has to end 53 years ago. And i think that taking that away isnt so complicated once you go to the ground, once youre on the field. I think that thats part of what made the netanyahu government so scared in allowing them in to really see this reality which is straightforward compelling and fundamentally wrong. I want to ask you something because there has been an alarming rise in antisemitism around the world including here in america. There is also a consciousness growing around the world and in america of the things you are describing about the things that israel does in its occupied territories that are not fair and not right. How do we manage, how do you manage to tell people that they can be critical of the activities of the government of israel in a way that does not involve antisemitism, and, in fact, can be they can condemn antisemitism in the same moment that you can say what israel is doing in the occupied territories is wrong . Yeah. I mean, i would imagine that there is a few viewers back home that are critical of the current american administrations policies, and they will speak out against it, they will mobilize, organize, you know, write op eds, go on the press and try to push their agenda. Thats part of the democracy. Theyre not antiamerican. Theyre not antichristian or not antiamerican muslim or antijewish if they criticize specific policies, right . Racism hatred has nothing to do with real critical questioning. I think that as a jew and as someone that my familys history is rooted in antisemitism sadly, i will be the first one on the lines coming and fighting antisemitism, and i would expect that from any person around the world, not only someone who is jewish. Sadly, there are hatred thoughts and racist ideologies and different political sections around this issue. But i think that there are things that you can look at and talk about right and wrong. I believe that israel has a right to exist. You know, israel is my home, and i hope that it will continue to be my home. I just dont buy into the equation that the existence of the state of israel means continual and perpetual occupation over millions of people. I would actually separate those two. And i would say our existence and our thriving actually is tied into ending this military control. And pushing that has nothing to do, obviously not with antisemitism. But i would even argue definitely has nothing to do with antiisraelism. I think that that agenda is the most proisrael agenda you could put on the table today. 180 degrees from the agenda that sadly my government administers are promoting. Avner, thank you for speaking with me. He was supposed to meet congresswoman tlaib and omars tour guide. Joining me now is someone with vast experience in dealing with foreign governments often in critical times in our nations history. Elizabeth holtzman, she currently serves as an attorney with Eric Feinstein where she focuses on government relations. Our viewers will know you from our involvement in the coverage of the mueller report. But you were a member of congress, and you were a member of congress at times when we discussed our relationship with israel, a relationship that involves a transfer of a lot of money to israel and a very strong appliance, political alliance, an alliance in terms of safety and security arntd world. Tell me what you make of this situation. Im kind of shocked. Im shocked that a president of the United States would use the power of his office to try to humiliate two congresswomen, two muslim congresswomen, two congresswomen of color, and that this endeavor to misuse the powers of his office and to humiliate his political opponents, this endeavor is being supported by the government of israel. Israel has for such a long time enjoyed the support of the United States and the United States congress. And both parties. There is an impression out there that democrats are antiisrael and congress is proisrael. And many members of congress have been to israel and seen it. And i think one of the important things about your prior guest was that hes an israeli. It shows the vibrancy of the israeli democracy. Thats something that people wont necessarily know sitting in the United States. Correct. And so it seems to me surprising for israel to be participating in any kind of display of disrespect for congress, but i think its also surprising that they would keep a member of congress out. I remember when i was in congress, we were in a cold war with the soviet union. Many members of Congress Went to the soviet union at that time. I went to the soviet union. The soviet union followed us and they knew we were going to be critical. We knew we would criticize them in the soviet union and when we got back. We met people who told us about what the conditions were really like for soviet jews. I came back, i criticized the soviet union. And that was actually an adversarial government. America and israel are not adversarial. But the soviet union didnt shut its doors to us. And actually some positive things came from those trips. One of the things that came out of it was a Corporation Agreement over evidence about nazi war criminals living in the United States which would never have been possible if we had not gone there. So important things can come out of congressional meetings with people in other countries. One, you can voice your displeasure to the government officials. Two, you can actually learn much more about how these countries are working, both for good and for bad, if thats the case. And why would you stop it . And your mind would broaden. So if people think that Rashida Tlaib and ilhan omar dont have a correct view of whats going on in israel, they were going to go there. And they mightve learned something very positive. And they might learn negative things. But its really important for israel and for the United States for people to say congress, american tax dollars go there. Billions of dollars go there every year. Congress is entitled to see whats happening with our money. Elizabeth holtzman is a counsel with Eric Feinstein and a former u. S. Congresswoman. As we enter the last hour of trading on wall street, it looks like they are about to end on a positive note. I have to look at where we are for the week because it has been a rough week. We started with an 800point drop. The dow is up 280 points right now, about a percent. We are all in the green today. Yesterday was a little mixed. We had an up day on one market and a down day on another market. My producers have checked for me, today they are all on track to be down for the week. Despite warning signs that a recession might be on the horizon, President Trump is betting that a Strong Economy is going to propel him to the second term in the white house. The president told supporters during a rally in New Hampshire last night that if it were not for him, the economy would be in trouble. You have no choice but to vote for me because your 401 k s down the tubes, everythings going to be down the tubes. So whether you love me or hate me, you got to vote for me. [ cheers and applause ] Nbcs Kristen Welker joins us from new jersey where the president is vacationing this week. Kristen, tale of two messages here. The president very, very confident about the economy and public behind the scenes. He and others in the white house are starting to worry about signs that a recession could be on the horizon. Reporter and you could see that dichotomy play out, ali, on wednesday, that day when the market did drop by more than 800 points. President trump was tweeting sending out basically a tweet storm pointing the finger at the fed trying to argue that this was all happening because they had kept rates too high for too long and have been too slow to lower them. Of course economists disagree with that assessment saying, look, there are a range of reasons including President Trumps trade war with china as well as instability globally. I can tell you that some of his aides and top allies are concerned about what theyre seeing. And on wednesday the president did reach out to some ceos along with some of his top officials to talk through some of this and the topic of the Global Economy was raids. There was broad agreement that there were head winds and deep concerns about that. Youre absolutely right. Privately there is concern but publicly a very different message. Ive been talking to larry kudlow, for example, for months and he feels as though the economy is strong and will continue to be so through election day. And thats what you saw President Trump project yesterday when he was in New Hampshire. Bottom line, ali, i asked the president directly several months ago is he going to run on the economy. He said yes. So he really sees his reelection chances tied up in the economy, ali. Kristen, please dont go too. Im going to come back to you in just a few moments. Like im acting like youve got Nothing Better to do. I dont, ali. Thats not true, but thank you. Joining us to continue this, a Senior Adviser to the Investment Firm schroeders. Its one thing to not be honest about where the economy is going or if its going to be in trouble. Youll recall in 2008 really into when we now know the recession was already underway, you had ben bernackie. I hope theyre not fooling themselves and i hope theyve got some plan to move forward if the inevitable recession, because they happen, does arrive. I thought catherines post. And i would exclude larry kudlow. Whether hes got or even a crisis that could come from overseas, whether the uk crashes out of the eu, whether germany and other European Countries fall into recession. Or whether more importantly this trade war creates a worldwide slowdown, which it already has. Can they deal with the downside. This is not at all at the feds feet. I think its right to worry about this that and also to suggest the president suggest that the economy will not be all right without him defies historical definition of whats happened in this country over the course of the last 240 years. So i think they are playing this in a very strange way, something we have not seen before. I hope it gets played a little more straight in a little while. Because recessions happen. How you react to it is important. Ron insana. President trump may be using his skill as a Real Estate Developer to pursue a deal to make the United States a lot bigger. Nbc news has confirmed a wall street journal report and the president has expressed an interest in buying greenland. Greenlanders aring about mosting the report. The islands Foreign Ministry said in a quote were open for business, not for sale. A greenland resident said i think we take it as a sick joke. Its going to come up in conversation this weekend. Greenland isnt actually green or at least not really very green. 80 of the island is covered in ice. It only has about 55 to 60,000 residents. Got a considerable amount of Natural Resources such as coal and uranium. It is a selfgoverning country within the kingdom of denmark. It also provides nearly 600 million in subsidies. The island has strategic importance to the United States because of its proximity to the Arctic Circle and, in fact, russia. Greenland is home to the air force base located 750 miles north of the Arctic Circle. This also isnt the first time the u. S. Has considered buying greenland in. 1946 president harry truman offered denmark 100 million for the island. In 1867 the year the u. S. Bought alaska from russia, the state Department Also looked into buying greenland and iceland. Nbcs Kristen Welker is back with us from new jersey to tell us how the negotiations are going for the purchase of greenland or at least how serious is this . Reporter well, thats the big question, ali. And weve been talking to officials here, and the reality is the president s top aides arent exactly sure how serious he is about all of this. What we do know is that they have started talking about it. Would this even be possible or legal. A question for the white house counsels office. So all of those are big questions. But i think the bottom line remains greenland is saying thanks but no thanks in a statement from the government they say of course greenland is not for sale. So, at that point you have to consider that its case closed. But, look, President Trump obviously a former Real Estate Developer. So the fact that it has all of those Natural Resources that you just talked about, the fact that it is of strategic importance is what has clearly caught President Trumps eye. It is worth noting that he is going to be in denmark in september, ali. So a chance for him to talk to officials there about a potential sale if he were interested actually in doing that. We have asked officials if hes going to actually hold discussions about this when hes in denmark. No response to that yet. But again i would just underscore this is a president who likes to throw around debate ideas and so its not entirely clear that this is a real proposal or something that hes just interested in. Kristen, thank you my friend. Kristen welker is in berkeley heights, new jersey, with the president. Up next reports that President Trump is moving forward and plans to withdraw troops from afghanistan as u. S. Negotiators near a deal with the taliban. Plus, an el paso manivitis the public to attend his wifes funeral after she was killed in the august 3rd mass shooting at an El Paso Walmart. You are watching msnbc. Its time for the biggest sale of the year on the sleep number 360 smart bed. Can it help keep us asleep . 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And earlier this month, he told advisers he wanted to withdraw all troops before the next u. S. Election. The u. S. Has had troops in the country since the start of the war in 2001. Right now there are about 14,000 servicemen and women deployed there, 15 have died so far this year. I am joined by wall street journal ann gearrin. Whats the push and pull here . Reporter well, ali, you laid it out exactly that the president sees this as kind of a pointless exercise. He recently referred to the role of the u. S. Military in afghanistan as policemen building gas stations. He thinks that the country should be able to stand on its own, maybe possibly a small u. S. Counterterrorism force which is what the pentagon wants. But that the bulk of the current 14,000 u. S. Forces could come home. Hes especially annoyed that he was talked into adding 5,000 forces two years ago. He didnt want to do it then. He thinks its been a wasted effort. And at the very least what theyre talking about today in bedminster is pulling out those 5,000 fairly soon going back to the roughly 9,000 that were in the country when Trump Took Office with hopes to draw the rest down in a stepbystep fashion after that. In the reporting you write that in exchange for doing so, the taliban would agree to renounce al qaeda and to prevent it from activities such as fundraising, recruiting, training, under taliban control to. A lot of viewers that would sound like a fan taskical deal, weve had no particular relations with the taliban over the years and now were going to cut a deal with them. Whats the reality and likelihood of that happening and whod back that up . I think it would also tristr a lot of people as remarkable that any of those things would be on the table. Successive u. S. President s refused to have any direct dealings with the taliban or would only do so in the most remote and circuitous ways for fear that it would cut the Afghan Government which is backed by the United States out of the discussions about its own future. The Trump Administration took a different approach. All those issues you listed have been on the table in pretty open discussions which both sides have acknowledged that have been taking place for months and led by a veteran u. S. Diplomat who was at the meeting today in bedminster and is laying this out for the president. The question of whether the taliban would actually follow through, what leverage the United States would have, is a separate issue. And we do not know where those discussions are going. And Lindsay Graham for one is not into it. He said, mr. President , he tweeted, learn from president obamas mistakes. A bad agreement puts radical Islamist Movement all over the world on steroids. And thanks for your reporting. Up next, democratic president ial candidates are converging on atlanta to court young black churchgoers, a voting block more important now than ever. Youre watching msnbc. Volunteerism. Fundraising. Giving back. Subaru and our retailers have given over one hundred and sixtyfive Million Dollars to charity. We call it our love promise. And its why you dont even have to own a subaru to love a subaru retailer. Love. Its what makes subaru, subaru announcer Important Message for women and men ages 50 to 85. Right now, in areas like yours, people have already called about Life Insurance through the Colonial Penn program and received their free beneficiary planner. Have you received your free planner . If not, i encourage you to pick up the phone and take advantage of this free offer. In addition to your free beneficiary planner, youll also receive free information on affordable whole Life Insurance that has a lifetime rate lock that guarantees your rate can never increase for any reason. 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Its a faithbased event which is expected to attract around 5,000 people. Today we heard from senator cory booker, pete buttigieg, and julian castro, Senators Elizabeth Warren and Bernie Sanders will speak tomorrow. The event marks a critical opportunity for these contenders to garner support from africanamerican churchgoers. In this case, young ones. Buttigieg has been pushing his douglas plan for black americans. Cory booker just unveiled his plan to combat white supremacy. And castro has pushed his recent Police Reform proposal. Joining me now is nbc news shaquille brewster. Shaquille, youve been there for a little while, youve been talking to people in the room. What are they most concerned about, what do they mostly want to hear from these candidates . Reporter well, first they want to have these candidates show up. And there was a deep sense of appreciation that you had these candidates, three of them today, two of them tomorrow who came to speak to these young black millennials. This is a Young Leadership conference here in atlanta, georgia, about 5,000 Community Leaders and Church Leaders from around the country coming here to speak. And the fact that these candidates came and took questions and mingled with folks afterwards, there was a deep appreciation of that. Second i want to say there is a sense that the people here wanted the candidates to not only talk about, not only hear the rhetoric. They didnt just want the focus on issues affecting them but they wanted to hear the specific plans. How are they going to enact these things that theyre talking about. Listen to what one attendee told me. I want to hear that they have put a strong interest in what is good for all americans, not a certain set, type of race, or culture or religious background or a walk of life or preference but just people as a whole. I want to hear that they are considering of people. I want to hear that they have figured out what are the things that are really affecting america as a whole. I want to hear that they are well spoken and that they are poised. I want to hear that they know what theyre talking about, and its not just a whole bunch of i do it better. Thats what i want. And so you heard the candidates talk about this plans and their proposals. You heard senator booker talk about white supremacist and gun violence. You heard buttigieg talk about his douglas plan for black america. You heard secretary castro talk about his plan to reform policing in this country. It was something that many people who are being introduced to these candidates for the first time. Shaquille, good to see you as always. Shaquille brewster in atlanta for us. Here is some of what the candidates said there this afternoon. That if we do not deal with this in our time, it could wreck the whole american project in our time. As you know, the first thing that we need to do is get the White Nationalists that is currently in the oval office out of the oval office. [ applause ] if i am president of the United States, i will not forget where i came from. I will not forget the communities that first put me in office. And i will judge myself not by how the wealthy and the privileged are doing. The metric of my life is always judged by how people like the folk who are my neighbors right now, how we are doing as a total. Joining me right now pastor Michael Mcbride whos the cofounder of black church pac which is cohosting the conference. Patrick, good to see you. Thank you for being with us. Give me some sense of what church churchgoing young africanamericans, whats the hierarchy of things they want to hear from a candidate about their lives . Well, this is what we know. We know that the voters that were in this room today will be the engines that will drive the turnout when it comes to both the primary and the president ial campaigns, and they needed to be talked to directly, not through surrogates, not through comrades and allies and other organizations. The black church needed to have a facetoface conversation, and we wanted to start with the millennial audience who are on some of the conservative side of the spectrum, but they needed to be listened to and heard, and today we did that. Talk about gun violence, mass incarceration, issues of student debt, the same issues that were hearing throughout the country. Right. So tell me what that means when you say some of them are on the conservative side of the spectrum, which is the case for a lot of africanamericans, how does that fit into these discussions . Because most africanamericans will be concerned with income inequality, wealth inequality, housing, gun violence, criminal justice reform, and the rise of white supremacy, all of these things will be interesting. How do they differ across the political spectrum . In other words, what might a more conservative churchgoing young millennial africanamerican might want to hear from a democratic candidate . Well, we want to hear that the president of the United States, the next one, will protect them from both systemic and structural violence and personal violence, violence of policies that would put them in so much debt that they cannot even with a good job earn a quality living. They will want to know that a radical White Nationalist terrorist with guns will not storm into their churches and into their schools and harm them. They want to know that if theyre driving down the street they will not be racially profiled. We asked the congregants and the members here how many of you know someone who has been shot, how many of you know someone whos been racially profiled. All of them raised their hands. Gun violence has not just compelled, were talking about police violence. Just because we go to church does not mean that we are not touched by these issues. And the candidates have to come talk to each part of the black voting base. The black church is not a monolith. We are a spectrum. We are glad to have this conversation starting here, but we are going to engage every part of the black church population and make sure that the candidates come and let their own vision be heard facetoface with the people in our congregation. All right, pastor, lets continue the conversation at some point when youre continuing down this road because i think i want to get more feedback from you on this and how youre feeling about what these candidates answers are actually like for you. Pastor Michael Mcbride is the director for the Live Free Campaign with faith in action. Breaking news, the new york medical examiner will release Jeffrey Epsteins autopsy results. What will the cause of death be . Tom winter, correspondent for investigations joins me now. What are we hearing . So what were hearing today is that we are expected to get this determination. Remember back to sunday we heard word from the office of chief medical examiner that they wanted a little bit more time, essentially, that they did not yet have a determination on Jeffrey Epsteins death, that they wanted some more time. As weve been reporting this week theres been no indication to date that theres any sort of foul play here. It is presumed that this determination will be suicide when it is released later today. We do expect that later today. As far as folks talking about an autopsy report, were not going to get some 30, 50, 100 page report that we can comb through here today. Very few states allow the release of that information. I can think of only one off the top of my head. But we should get a determination of the cause. We will get a determination. Do they ever not do that . Do they ever say undetermined . There are certain cases where because of a lack of evidence or perhaps in a case where a body has decomposed or theres other mitigating factors where they cant come to a conclusion, i would be very, very surprised if that were the case here today. And i do expect and i think the Law Enforcement community expects this to come back as suicide today. Well wait and see. We do expect that report. But i think at this point heres my question for you, this hyoid bone thing theyve been talking about, what happens if the medical examiner says, look, there is this interesting thing. We dont really know why it wouldve been can you seed and there may be more evidence when other people deal with evidence. In other words, does the medical examiner ever think about anything that doesnt happen on that table in the morgue . Thats a super question and thats absolutely the right question to ask. And, yes, they certainly do. One of the things that they talked about on sunday is they wanted more information. There is an fbi investigation into this death. Theres other records that can be gathered. Theres other medical records that can be gathered. So it is totally common, and it is accepted practice to go and say, you know, i give a hypothetical. Say they found a bruise on his hand. They could say, you know what, somebody remembers him taking a fall or he stomach baeld, you know, when he was trying to get through to meet with his attorneys. Can we go back and take a look at the video to make sure that when he fell he hit his right palm and that the video matches. Its that type of back and forth that occurs whenever youre conducting an autopsy, and whenever youre kaukting an autopsy of this nature of this highprofile of an incident. Can we account for every knick, cut, broken bone, et cetera. And so i think thats the type of thing that theyve been doing over the course of the last week or so or less than a week obviously. So here it is about six days after his death, and it appears well get that determination today. So thats what we can expect. But, yeah, thats the exact back and forth that happened. Tom, thank you as always. And he will be back with us as soon as we get that report. Coming up with just months to go before the first primary votes are cast, state Election Officials are raging Major Concerns about Election Security making a plea for federal funding to safeguard ballots against cyber hacking. Youre watching msnbc. Watching. 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Ask your doctor about ibrance. The 1 prescribed fdaapproved oral Combination Treatment for hr her2 mbc. One of the countrys biggest security vulenter contracts can be the very old computer software. The federal Election Assistance Commission held a meeting yesterday with state Election Officials and other stakeholders. It was prompted by an Associated Press report last month which found that a majority of the countrys 10,000 voting jurisdictions are using Outdated Software. It is so old that microsoft is going to sta going to stop sending out updates next year. Ben, how much of a problem is it . Is that that were going from free updates to maybe paid for updates . Or is the software so old its not really top of everybodys mind . You dont really want to be using that old software for your voting . Just think about it. We have four nation states who are going to be attacking our election in 2020. And we have Computers Running windows 7 that are helping to run those elections, administer them, not do the Voting Machines themselves. And were talking about 10,000 jurisdictions and the majority of them running Outdated Software that seems like a pretty big security risk. Is this unique to the election industry . Or is this a big problem or a lot of people have old software . Well, i think that when were talking about elections, you want the latest and the best solution. I think we can all relate to not doing enough security and software updates. But were not running national elections. Yeah. We need a higher bar when it comes to selecting the next president of the United States. What does this solution look like . So Windows Microsoft says they are working on a solution. They want to make sure that windows 7 is not a barrier to having a secure election, but in the meantime, you know, local jurisdictions are racing to do some of these patches themselves or in some cases they say, well, theres not enough time, we cant do this, were just not going to use those machines at all. We are going to separate them entirely. Just the ability of sometimes were talking about poor cashstrapped jurisdictions, places that have trouble paying their water bills, places that have trouble putting in roads. They dont have an i. T. Staff. Were having these people to be on the front line against foreign nation states. That is exactly what the problem. Ben, thank you very much. Our Senior Business reporter. Coming up, he lost his world when his wife was killed in a mass shooting at an El Paso Walmart earlier this month. Now Antonio Vasco is inviting the world to join him in remembering her. You are watching msnbc. 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Theyre coming in as far away as australia and theyre running out of room inside of the church. This is the outside of the church and you see weve got bouquets of flowers that have been up the stairs, theyre filling basically every available inch of space in this beautiful presbyterian church. They have them here. Theyre starting to put them in this room over here. Then i want to show you this. This is absolutely remarkable. Remember, this was a service that they thought no one might attend and now we have this whole church filled with flowers from complete strangers all across the world. Wow. Come with me down here, we have these bouquets that stretch all around this room, hundreds and hundreds of people donating this. Were expecting thousands of people to come out to this. The entire city of el paso was invited to this funeral. I want to tell you a little bit about antonio bosco, the man who lost his wife of 22 years during that horrible massacre. Every single day in el paso he shows up to the makeshift memorial outside of the walmart and he prays and he grieves at his wifes cross that bears her name. He kisses that cross. Its really emotional for everybody to see. So its just its remarkable to see this community, and not just this community but people all over the world coming together to show him that she will not be forgotten. In fact she will be celebrated here. Her memory will go on forever, and again the flowers just continue. They are over here, theyre over there. Let me see if i can read you just a couple of these messages. Theyre remarkable, ali. So over here youve got some flowers. This one, dear mr. Bosco, please know that you are not alone on this day and future. Youre in my thoughts and prayers. Sending you my warmest condolences, your friend in new york, paulina. Each one of these flowers has their own personal messages. Again, this church is expected to be filled with people saying goodbye a little later. 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Lets have a look at the markets as trading winds down for the day. Dow is closing more than 300 points higher, gain of 1. 2 . That still doesnt wipe out the losses we saw this week because we had an 800loss day, more than 3 . The other markets are doing the same thing. We have up markets in all of those cases. This is because of the yield, we talked about yields earlier this week. I wont talk about it again because nobody ever wants to talk about yields but the low interest race have come up a smidge. That wraps up this hour for me. See you back here at 8 00 eastern for all in with chris hayes. You can watch on sirius xm radio, tune in, apple tv and msnbc app and all over social media. Thank you for watching. Deadline white house with Nicolle Wallace starts now. Hi, everyone, its 4 00 in new york. In public and in private donald trump is reportedly shane by the prospects of an economic downturn. Having pinned all of thinks hopes for reelection on the strength of the economy. He also woke up to ominous poll numbers from his most favorite network, fox news, that show him losing to all of the top Democratic Candidates for president in 2020. Here are those numbers. Biden beats donald trump 50 to 38, Bernie Sanders 48 to 39, Elizabeth Warren 41
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