Gitmo . I would certainly consider that. Are you sending him to gitmo . I would certainly consider that, yes. Kristen welker standing inside the Briefing Room where were waiting to hear from press secretary Sarah Huckabee sanders any minute now. Ill let you know when she comes out if you dont catch it yourself, kristen. What are we expecting to hear about reaction from this new york attack . I think a lot of questions about what you just played, ali, the fact that the president says hes open to sending the new york terror suspect to gitmo. According to an authority when nbc spoke, that is not legally possible. There is no Legal Authority for that right now. The suspect at this point will be charged through the regular process. So well ask Sarah Huckabee sanders to clarify, to delve into how seriously the president is really considering that possibility. Were also going to ask her about the president s other call today. He called for an end to the diversity visa Lottery Program, said he has already made that charge to congress. Of course, that is the program through which the terror suspect entered the United States back in 2010. It essentially allows for 50,000 permanent visas every year, and it prioritizes those who are coming in from low immigration countries. There are some requirements that those have to meet who get in through that program. For example, they have to have some high school education. They cant have a criminal background. But the president says it doesnt go far enough. He wants to see a meritbased system and that largely focuses on highskilled workers. The president took this chance not only to call for tougher immigration policies but to hit democrats for what he characterizes as their weak immigration policies, and Senate Minority leader Chuck Schuman in particular. He also reported getting rid of that program as a compromise in 2013. Schumer said this is not the time to politicize the presid t president. After the attack in las vegas, the president said it was too soon to talk about politics and policy and gun policy in particular. He still hasnt returned to the issue of gun policy, by the way, but in short order he has started to call for tougher immigration tactics. Well also ask Sarah Huckabee sanders about that, why the difference in this attack. We didnt have enough information to move into a policy discussion. Interesting the difference in how thats all happening. Kristen welker, well be standing by for that press conference thats going to happen just moments from now with Sarah Huckabee sanders. Well go right back to that. I just want to bring you up to speed about what we know about the dead materiterror attack th killed eight people. Were now learning the names of those people, including two relatives. Lets start with you, ann. What do we know about the seven men and one woman who were killed . Reporter well, ali, we know all their names now, including the two americans. And the two americans are identified first as darren drake. He is 32 years old. He comes from new milford, new jersey. He was riding his bike downtown when he was struck by that truck. Also nicholas clees. He is a 23yearold man and hes the lone new yorker among those killed yesterday. There were five men here to celebrate their High School Graduation anniversary. They, too, were riding bikes. They were heading down the intrepid to go to Downtown Manhattan when they were struck. They all died. A sixth man is currently recovering from his injuries that he sustained during the terror attack, and we understand from the argentinian Council General that he has not been told that five of his friends have died. And then the eighth victim is a woman named ann larei. She is a 32yearold mother of two. She comes from belgium. And shes one of two belgian families who were affected by this attack. Another family had three people who were injured, and we understand they are all hospitalized. Ali . Ann, thanks very much for that. Ron mott is at the scene in lower manhattan. Is an investigation at the scene still underway . Reporter absolutely, ali. You can see these two black panel vans. We dont know if that home depot truck is still down there. There was a flat wrecker that we believe took that vehicle away from the scene. This all got started across the hudson river yesterday at 2 00 when the suspect rented that home depot truck. They say you can rent those for as low as 19. He took that truck across the George Washington bridge that connected that bridge to manhattan. He made his way toward downtown using the west side highway and of course plowed into all these bicycles. It all ended up back here after he hit that school bus carrying small children. One of them was critically injured in all of that. And once he got out onto the street carrying a pellet gun and a paint gun, the people started calling 911 who were there near that scene, called two cops who were walking the beat. They responded to the scene. They met up with an officer and that third officer is the one who shot and wounded that suspect in the abdomen. Heres what mayor de blasio had to say about his actions. Apparently we dont have sound from the mayor basically calling him a hero, as are many other people in the city when he was able to put that suspect down onto the ground. And whats sort of unusual, weve been talking about this since this happened 24 hours ago, is that we have a surviving attacker. Obviously authorities want to know about him and how long hes been planning this. Theyve been interviewing his wife, finding out if she knows anything about this and whether there was a larger conspiracy at play here. Were literally under the shadows of the one World Trade Center, so all the folks who lived in new york city back on 9 11, this is a very eerie day. But the nice thing is we have kids on the playground. Thats what officials want to see. They dont want to see people cowering in fear after Something Like this. We can hear kids playing in the background and that is the normalcy of new york. Ron, thanks very much to both of you. Now we know the attacker had been planning this for weeks, the exact ties to terror unknown. We do know that a handwritten note was found in the truck that he used connecting him to isis. On capitol hill senators john mccain and Lindsey Graham called on the president to make the alleged attacker, sayfullo saipov, an energy combatant . Why should this guy be treated as an enemy combatant . Declaring this man as an enemy combatant would allow us to hold him, and it doesnt have to be in gitmo. A correspondent specializing in isis and all things terror. Brooke, i want to ask you about the note, the significance of this. Sure. The significance of the fact that this is something terrorist groups have been influencing people to do, but this concept of using a vehicle, the type of vehicle, the note and how to do it has all become refined in the last year or so. It has. Since november of last year, rumeo, which is the native language of the arabic state, was told to rent a truck and run into a bus, to then jump out and use a secondary weapon to attack people and also leave a note. Interestingly, in the magazine that went out last year, they said one of the phrases that you could use to nod at your leaders in the Islamic State is the phrase the Islamic State will remain. According to the press conference today, the note said in arabic, the Islamic State will endure forever. Thats similar. Thats quite similar. The note was written in arabic. S saipov was in uzbek. As a muslim, he would have known how to pray in arabic, but he would not have known how to write in arabic. He would not have known how to write in arabic and its already been suggested he didnt know how to speak arabic. The question is did he google this phrase . Ive tried to study it myself, and i can say its quite difficult. Its not intuitive if you dont learn. Its not intuitive. Its not impossible but certainly not intuitive. If you have a friend who can write arabic, its a tough gig to get them to write islamic arabic lives forever. Exactly. So its hard to say who wrote the note. Particularly if the assailant has been killed, they cant get any information. When they havent, it changes the dynamic a little bit. Yes. The Islamic State, contrary to popular conception, is theyre more right than wrong with attacks. They claim attacks by the people that are known. There were 10 attackers who fanned out across paris in november 2015. In the video that isis put out, the tenth was islam. His younger brother was killed in that attack. He was youeulogized. He never appears in any video. He was arrested and interrogated by police, and we believe thats why they dont name them, to not complicate the investigation as it goes forward. Isis and coordinated terrorist group attacks and a lone wolf, the difference between them. There is almost like a virtual counselor or something. Exactly. Were calling it remote controlled style of attack. In other words, the person is on home ground, they never traveled to syria, they never actually met an Islamic State member. But using the internet, they connect up with a handler and the handler walks through the steps of carrying out the violence. Which, if you think about it, this young man likely was expecting to die in this attack. He had essentially what was a fake gun, Walking Around meant to provoke. Meant to provoke. So i dont think its easy to get somebody to agree to throw away their life. I think its incredible that using nothing more than a cable, it was easy to get these men out from these attacks. He specializes in isis and all matters terror, an msnbc contributor. You can see were keeping an eye on the white house. Any minute there will be a press briefing from Sarah Huckabee sanders. Were going to bring that to you as soon as it gets underway. Up next, social Media Companies may be on the front line when it comes to fighting terror and prodemocracy. Google and facebook executives are facing tough questions from lawmakers about what they knew about russian Cyber Attacks in the election of 2016. Ive been proud, and i know senator schumer is as well, to represent this tech firm from california. But i must say, you dont get it. What were talking about is a cataclysmic change. What were talking about is the start of cyber warfare. Today, smart planning is helping the new new york rise higher than ever. As the world leader in unmanned aerial systems, were attracting the worlds best talent to central new york. And turning the airport into a firstclass transportation hub. All while growing urban areas into vibrant places to live and work. Across new york state, were building the new new york. To grow your business with us in new york state, visit esd. Ny. Gov. The White House Briefing is under way. I give you Sarah Huckabee sanders. Specifically robert nash, a fiveyear veteran of the nypd, was among the first to arrive on the scene and shot the bullet that wounded sayfullo saipov. Yesterday he earned something that can never be properly displayed by a ribbon or medal. He earned the neverending thanks of a grateful nation. The president has vowed to defend our country, protect our communities and put the safety of americans first. This is the oath he took as president and that is his sacred pledge to the citizens of our country. With that ill take your questions. John. Sarah, in the hours, in fact the days after the horrific shooting in las vegas, the president repeatedly said now is not the time to talk about policy, now is not the time to talk about politics, thats for another time. Right now we need to mourn the deaths. Yet this morning the president launched into a political argument with senator Chuck Schumer on twitter literally hours after this incident yesterday. Why was he so quick to go the political route and point fingers at Chuck Schumer for the fact this person was in the country at all . Look, this wasnt about going the political route, this is something frankly the president has been talking about for a long time. This isnt a new policy, this isnt a new position, this isnt a new conversation. The president has been talking about extreme vetting and the need for that for the purpose of protecting the citizens of this country since he was a candidate, long before he was ever president. This isnt a new argument, this isnt a new position, and this wasnt new for the president to speak about it. We heard today about 11 30 this morning from the mayor and governor of new york who had said at that time the president had yesterday to call. Has the president called his mayor, his governor recently . The president has spoken with both the mayor and the governor of new york. Sarah, why wasnt uzbekistan on the travel ban list . As weve outlined multiple times before, those were determinations made by several factors, in large Part Congress helped play a role in determining a lot of those factors in placing specific priorities on different countries, and that would be the reason they werent a part of that. Shouldnt it be put on the list . It may be something looked at. We certainly havent ruled it out. The question is why. There are a lot of different criteria that we use to determine which countries should be on there, and they havent been determined as one of the countries yet, but im not saying thats been ruled out, either. Jordan . Thank you, sarah. On senator schumer, can you tell us when is the last time he and the president spoke, and more broadly, the president is saying he is responsible at least in part for this attack. Does the president still see let me be really clear. The president has not blamed senator schumer. He doesnt feel the senator is responsible for the attack. We believe very strongly that the individual who carried out the attack is responsible and no one else. However, we do think that there are policies that could be put in place that help protect american citizens. Weve been talking about those for a long time and we continue to push and advocate for those policies. Does the president still think senator schumer is someone he could work with . I think we would love to work with senator schumer to pass legislation on extreme vetting. If he is willing to do that, we would absolutely welcome his support on it. John decker . Thanks a lot, sarah. The president was asked a little bit earlier when he was meeting with his cabinet about the possibility of sending this terror suspect to the detention facility at Guantanamo Bay, cuba, and he said he is, indeed, open to that. S does the president believe he is the commander in chief able to send this terrorist to gitmo . And what advantage does the president see in sending this terror suspect to Guantanamo Bay, cuba . The point he made was that he supports or would support that. Hes not necessarily advocating for it but he would support it if he felt like it was the best move. Are there advantages in terms of sending any terror suspect to guantanamo . Thats a question we would have to dive into deeply and talk to an Agency Management before making that decision. Matthew . The president said he was ready to step up already extreme vetting. I wondered if you could tell us specifically what extreme vetting entails and whether it might have had an impact on preventing yesterdays attack. Sure. Some examples of extreme vetting would be handling the bio graphical data, improving our intelligence streams, improving information sharing with partner nations and foreign Law Enforcement and intelligence services, and an overall heightened scrutiny and more thorough review procedures for cbp and other agencies that would play a role in that process. Sarah, the Guantanamo Bay question. Does the president believe this suspect should be classified as an enemy combatant . I believe we would consider this person to be an enemy combatant, yes. Would he maybe decide not to charge him in federal court and use the status of enemy comb combatant and that status but treat him differently in terms of prosecution. I dont think thats been determined. Well wait until were a little further in the process. Have you decided to charge him at all on that . We havent made any decision on that. You said you were open to the enemy combatant. I said we would be open to enemy combatant. I think the actions he took would generally occupy that. Sarah, i want to follow up on the question john was asking you earlier. Youre making the case these are not new policies hes talking about, and yet the question still remains he is delving into a policy and political question. As you were very clear after the las vegas shooting, it wasnt appropriate to talk about policies. So whats the difference now. I said it wasnt appropriate to positive lliticize the conve. Which i dont believe we are. Were talking about protecting american lives, and there are things this president has consistently and repeatedly talked about, odd advocated for pushed legislation for long before he was president of the United States that support this position. Its aint new position. There are facts that we know about this horrific tragedy that we know caused some of the things in this horrific tragedy that i think determined what those policy positions that hes been advocating for long before yesterday are very consistent with the activity that could have prevented Something Like this from happening. The president invoked Chuck Schumers name, so how can you argue that its not a political argument . Look, senator schumer supported these advocacies and i think thats a very basic fact. Its not euan funifying the country. Is he failing to unify the country . He helped them on the front end long before the gang of 8. The gang of 8 would have addressed only one part of that problem, as we talked about many times before. He may have helped isolate one part of the problem, but it would have exacerbated so many other parts of the problem that fall within our immigration system. If he only addressed one part and not the totality of it and introduced a more fully and responsible Immigration Reform like the president has proposed, like the president has outlined, then youre not addressing the problem, youre not fixing the problem, youre only making the problem worse. When hes talking about quicker, greater punishment, is he just talking about better enforcement of laws that currently exist, or is he talking about some sort of extrajudicial process, and are you looking at doing an executive order that would empower him . Would you make Something Like that public or consider, is he really serious about these are very different questions. Let me try to address the first part in terms of, i believe he was voicing his frustration with a lengthy process that on comes with a case like this. So i think that was simply the point he was making. In terms of the mandate. We kept tax votes and tax reform separately. Sarah, they said the suspect made the attack in the name of isis. How can a person make the case that we are annihilating isis when attacks like this occurs. Are his policies embolden iing. I dont think you can discredit the progress made on isis with a total defeat taking place and taking away their strongholds in both raqqa and mosul. Were meeting them in those places as much as possible and well continue to do that. Its another reason this president wants to Institute Extreme vetting, to keep more people out of our country that want to do us harm. The president said earlier todays process starts. What does he mean by starting the process . Just that, were going to continue advocating for getting rid of this program. Wed like the Lottery Program not be part of any immigration system we have in this country. Just to follow up on margarets question, so the president isnt considering any criminal Justice Reform . As i said, well look for other ways to deal with it, but he was simply impatient to deal with this process. The criterion you listed for enhanced vetting sounds very much like that for a national i. D. Card, a subject that comes up every few years with congress but has never been invoked. Is that type of legislation going to happen . We would like to see in what form that comes in, that is yet to be determined, but those are what wed like to see take place in a National Vetting program. Youre not ruling out a national id card . We would like to see certain things in an extreme vetting program. The president sent this tweet out last night saying that hes called for a step up of extreme vetting until now. Can you lay out what exactly has been stepped up in that time frame . I think hes taken a call to action. I know hes spoken several times with members of his National Security team to look and see what specific things can be done. But we have put in place executive orders already since the president has taken office that help go as far as we can at this point. On tax reform real quick, if you dont mind . Its possible that one of the things republicans are looking for right now is drastically lowering. Ly. How would bringing down the cap on 4 0 01 k s help the milgddle class . We go through this every week with you guys in the media. Hes putting together the best bill possible. We also want to make sure the priorities we figured out, including helping the milgd class, is a final piece of legislation. We support where we are. Look, i think the president if its called the cutcut bill, great. I think the biggest priority he has is making sure it does what let out what he wants it to do. If its called cutcut, then i think he would be perfectly fine with that name. Can yhe talked about wantin t meritbased immigration today and where does it lie with a component to it . It may be a component, but the fact we have a lottery system whom. One of the best things about this country is the fact that everybody wants to be here. To give that away naturally, to have no vetting system many we want people to come here for the right reasons, not to bring harm to our country, and thats something any american should want to support. They have to have a job and a minimal education. The point is they are randomly selected. Its the lowest level of criteria that any part of our immigration system has is through the lottery system. So to try and argue that this is a system that thoroughly vets people just shows a total lack of understanding for what this process is. Apparently 1,000 people come in this countries on this program. One of them has been accused of causing a problem for that program. I just know you cant select people and not have them thoroughly vetted and not know if these people want to do good things or bad things when they come here. I dont think its unreasonable to ask that people who come to this country, they ask to be vetted and not harm anyone in this country. Why did the president call the u. S. System a joke and a laughingstock. He said the process has people calling us a joke and calling us a laughingstock. As i pointed out to margaret, hes simply pointing out his frustration, and particularly for sbun. Thats the point hes making and thats the frustration he has. Getting back to George Papadopoulos, does the president recall at that march 21, 2016 meeting between president putin and George Papadopoulos . Does the president recall that . No, i dont think he does. The civil rights leader said if anyone wants to stop people from coming because they come from different countries, its totally wrong. What say you . Nobody said because they come from a different country. I think thats the whole definition of immigration is that they wouldnt want to be immigrations. The lottery is specifically for those coming from other nations that you are not favoring right now because there is a possibility of terrorism. I believe we have a fundamental right to protect the people of this country, and if we see or think someone is a threat to United States citizens that we should take every precaution that we can to protect the people of this country. And i dont think most americans would disagree with that. In fact, most americans do support extreme vetting and certainly support the protection of citizens in this country. Last question, the issue of compromise. What is the definition of compromise as it relates to slavery and the civil war. Look, im not going to relitigate the civil war. Its like i told you yesterday, i think i addressed the concerns a lot people had and the questions you had. Im not going to relitigate history here. Im going to ask the question again. Why dont you ask it in a way youre not accusing me . Im not accusing. Im asking the question, sarah, seriously. The question is, does this president believe slave on slavery, and because of the civil war, what happened. I think it is disgusting to think that somebody in this room would support slavery. Peter . What are President Trumps flaws . Probably that he has to deal with you guys on a daily. So what were you saying. Thank you, sarah. Two questions for you. What does the future of Guantanamo Bay look like from the Trump Administration . I dont have any changes to policy at this point. Could you give us a bit more information about how the president heard about this attack in new york city, who he got on the phone call, what actions he took. Sarah, will they look to enhancing terror measures with other former questions during his visit to asia . And also will President Trump call the leaders of argentina and belgium to speak with those leaders . I believe arrangements are being made to suggest those two conversati conversation, that will certainly be discussed throughout the trip over the next several days, and as. Early this week, general mcmaster will be here tomorrow to. Well let you know what later today that time should be . Most will likely take place in the afternoon. Sarah Huckabee Sanders wrapping up the White House Press briefing which he this doesnt look like after. She faced some questioning from april ryan on that. Again, a continued fundamental misunderstanding of the diversity lottery under which the new york terror attacker came into the country. Kristen welker is in the room. She was just there. Kristin, you and others pointed out the glaring difference between the president s comments after the Las Vegas Attack that you and i were talking about earlier where he said, we dont want to go down a road of looking at policy right now. We have to honor those who were killed. You asked what were the differences between then and now. Thats right, Sarah Huckabee sanders was asked a number of times, including my colleague john roberts sitting next to me, what is the difference . Why is it okay to talk about policy and politics now but not in the wake of the horrific attack in las vegas. She made the. I pressed her on on this point, particularly, ali, on the nyc attack. Were protecting american looifr lives, and there are things the president advocated for, pushed for, pushed legislation for time and time again since long before he was even president of the United States that support this position. Its not a new position. Of course, the president has been criticized by democrats Chuck Schumer as well as new York Governor Andrew Cuomo who is saying hes attempting to unify the country by going after Chuck Schumer directly. At issue is this diversity visa Lottery Program which does have some checks in place, ali. It requires people to have a high school education, to make sure they dont have a criminal background. She was pressed on that as well by peter baker. She pushed back on that and said, look, its just not tough enough vetting. He said he would consider sending the suspect to Guantanamo Bay. That is a conversation going on between a number of different agencies. She did say that in keeping with what we heard from senators john mccain and lindsey. One other headline, she was pressed on that debate back and forth over john kellys comments this week that there could ab a. She said the notion that anyone in this administration supports slavery she said is essentially absurd and defensive. Kristen, great to see you. Thanks so much, as always this social media. I just want to hold off for a seco second. We want to know if you got into this country with a special abilities visa or a student visa or a working visa. The protsz cess of getting a gr card is exactly the same. I just have to put it out there. As an immigrant in this country that came in on an o visa and then got transferred to the. It is nonsense to suggest that somebody who came in on a diversion veesh a. This is just intellectually dishonest. Rightment this is part of the Ongoing Investigation into russian interference in the 2016 election. Heres an exchange that happened just a minute ago. Over my shoulder is the two ads that have been imposed, and the debate can you just give me a. Everybody is posting in nonduplicate forms. The answer siem nis im not but ill follow up with you. Im talking about every ad you disclosed. Have you done a duplicate analysis . I would have to follow up with you, congressman. Mr. Walker . Same answer. Do you share a concern that that analysis has not been done and that the russians did use cutouts and there are far more ads out there that they used beyond the 120 millionplus views that occurred that we know about. We did try to link accounts and look across a number of identifiers. It may have picked up things like this. We were trying to be as exhaustive in our search as we could. I just dont know if its been going on like this for a long time, by the way. In front of the Senate Intelligence committee, all reps admitted they were not satisfied with their platforms response to the meddling. This is going to take part in a minute. Jo has been following this in capitol hill. Every time i get an email from you about what more youve heard, at no point does my jaw not drop more. Right, and thats what the congresspeople here are invoking. Theyre clearly not satisfied. Were standing outside the third of three hearings, ali. We just heard from the facebook general counsel, and he was asked multiple times about whether or not facebook is a Media Company or whether it. Hes saying, i dont want to. This has become the Sticking Point for a lot of accidents coming this was performed earlier in the Senate Committee as well. Take a listen. Why didnt google take any action regarding rt after the Intelligence Community assessment came out in january of 2017 . Senator, let me start by responding to initial comments to ensure that we take this and have taken in this current area. Thats sort of been the trend of the testimony all along. I think were in a different day now. Were at the beginning of what could be cyberwaer. What were you aware of senate subcommittees. We were on that platform prior to and through the. Early 2015. We had seen activity as early as 2015. And 2015, and that is the number, thats the year that a lot of folks here are very concerned about. So we also want to talk to you about some new information weve gotten from facebook. The general counsel also disclosing 20 Million People we were. This is what we reported on monday night all the way to 1500 million americans were targeted and might have seen ex. But what were really seeing for the tooirs time and what. And the number never slings a shrinks and goes oert directi the other way. On a normal day, this wouldnt be all were talking about, but then again, there isnt many normal days. Who exactly is behind these ads . When did the companies in question, the social media platforms, know about them . What can we do to keep them from happening again . I want to go to an early investor in facebook, and msnbc terror activist ive talked to, i think, the last 24 hours. Roger, i want to start with you. You reached out in 2016 about meddling concerns on the platform. You wrote in usa today. I reached out to Mark Zuckerberg and sheryl sand berg before the election. Zuckerberg called concerns about facebooks role unnecessary. It essentially is built on addiction. They want you checking constantly. Smartphones give them 16 hours a day to get your attention, so once they have you daeaddicted, then the ads are effective. What they didnt think about was a bad actor can use the same amount of swipes to interrupt with democracy. And we have some rules about the ads and the content on tv. Malcolm, the problem here is these Technology Companies and their backers in Silicon Valley have real concerns about regulation. And people like you, roger, and other investors are very concerned. If you guys dont regulate yourself properly, someone else is going to come in and regulate you and you cant be compared to, were just another immediate kwa company. Right, and theyre terrified at being a Media Company. Those times that we see the commercials on regular news. It makes it easy to track the money, the source of origin. Propaganda has been around forever, right, under the former soviet . They were massives at noon. But you have to buy a newspaper to do that. They have harnessed a weapon of speech to harness themselves. They just used freedom of speech and democracy against itself. Were going to have to admit that first. Theyre admitting things happened, but what they wont admit is they maify have been a fault for that. Its different than television, different than newspapers. Now they can turn it to each individual they were targeted very specifically. And the message each one reached was based on this huge trove of information about that person and yesterday senator kennedy from louisiana raised an important point about facebook has all this personal information and the general counsel denied, oh, no, we dont. Its like, of course, yes, they do. They had people embedded in the Trump Campaign who would have had access to all of that stuff. I mean, we have to be we have to recognize this is different. Weve never seen anything like this. Tv, broadcast, any fool puts it on and you see whatever you see. We try hard to figure out who our specific audience is watching us right now. They dont have to try that hard. They developed infrastructures at facebook and twitter to know when you see a message paid for by somebody, somebody paid for you to see that message. Youre a payoff. It doesnt go away. Television, change the channel. When you go to facebook, its always stuck to the right, stuck to the left. The addition of people retweeting information that meets their world view, create theirs own social media bubble, its fascinating how a Foreign Intelligence Agency were the first to see this to the point where vladimir putin, when he started hacking the dnc in the summer of 2015, many other things were going on. This was a large Scale National directed offensive against american democracy. They saw their chance. They took the shot and this is really important. Let me play you more from what happened earlier with this discussion about foreign money involved in influencing elections. Lets listen in. The political ad was paid for by rubles. Isnt that a red flag . How could that happen . How you vet your contact and how you vet your users . You have identified two extremely important areas of investment for us. And opportunities for us to do better. There you go. Opportunities for them to do better. Lets be smart about this because your companies are involved in the most cutting edge of technology. If its not rubles, it will be bitcoin. There will always be a way for them to figure it out. What do Technology Companies have to do to do this . Its not easy. Theres no switch that says stop this. This is fundamental to the platform. In order to keep this from happening, theyll have to change the way facebook operates. The way that the profit model works. Theres no the reason they fought so hard to be classified as something other than a Media Company is because the cost of policing all this stuff changes their model completely. It doesnt wreck facebook. Its one of the most Profitable Companies in the entire world and will be significantly more if they act in a civically responsible way. Can it become significantly less valuable because enough users start to see this enough and say, i just dont trust the stuff im seeing . Thats a different issue. Thats what theyre bringing on themselves now. Theyve now put their trust relationship and their brand on the line. And every time they go into one of these hearings and pretend like they dont know or its not their duty to know that doesnt sit well. Tv is intimate. Its in peoples living rooms and bedrooms but the phone is in your bathroom, its everywhere you go. This gets to you in places that nothing could have ever gotten to you before. Roger, great to see you in person here and malcolm. Weve got to stop meeting like this. Malcolm nantz, msnbc terror analyst and Roger Mcnamee is a cofounder of elevation partners. Nbc nightly news anchor lester holt had a chance to sit down with tim cook. He weighed in on social media to influence the 2016 president ial election. Do you think the social Media Companies have been a little late to acknowledge how they were used by those trying to influence the election . Russians . I think they learned along the way a lot. And, you know, i think its best to ask them if they should have projected it or not. I dont know. What i do believe, though, is i dont believe the big issue are ads from foreign governments. I believe thats like 0. 1 of the issue. The bigger issue is that some of these tools are used to divide people, to manipulate people, to get fake news to people in broad numbers and start to influence their thinking. And this, to me, is the number one through ten issue. Okay. Great conversation. For more of lesters conversation with tim cook, tune in tonight to nbc nightly news. Were back with a check of the markets after this quick break. Causing a lack of sharpness, or even trouble with recall. 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