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As it becomes more and more inevitable trump will be the republican nominee, people have been wondering who Donald Trumps Foreign Policy advisors are going to be. He finally told where you say hes getting his information from yesterday. Take a look. Who are you consulting with consistently so youre ready on day one . Im speaking with myself, number one, because i have a very good brain and ive said a lot of things. [ cheers and applause ] this is crazy, but we have the technology to look inside his brain. Its fascinating to see how it works. Look at this. He referred to my hands, if theyre small, Something Else must be small. I guarantee you theres no problem, i guarantee you. Why isnt it working . Let me try [ laughter and applause ] thats well done. Good morning, everyone, its friday, can you believe it . Right. Yeah, it means so much more these days. Its big. Weve had a long week. So joes in austin this morning performing at south by southwest. Playing his guitar . Its going to be awesome. Pretty amazing. The whole band. Watch out for the whole band. All nine of them. More on that later. With us on set, former Communications Director for president george w. Bush, nicolle wallace. Former treasury official and morning joe economic analyst Steve Rattner and donnie is here along with willie and me. And then theres a turn in the punch bowl. Donny is here. Its all so contrived. I like the double estrogen hit on this side of the table here. Ive never seen this before, have you . Have you ever been on the same side together . We have. I view it as two smart people sitting over there going to take you down, my friend. Very well played, willie geist. Im just going to sit here and wait for him to screw up even more. Keep going. Anything else you like . No, im just happy to be here. Good answer. Double estrogen hit . Yeah. Sounds like something you can get [ laughter ] well, were beyond that here. The Republican National Convention Opens in exactly four months from today. Thats four months for a band of Party Regulars who remain determined to stop donald trump from gaining its nomination to enact their plan. In Downtown Washington yesterday, conservative activists met privately to devise that plan. They settled on calling for a unity ticket, though who it would consist of remains unclear, leaving options open to a former candidate or someone who did not run. They encouraged all former and current candidates to hold their delegates on the first ballot at the convention and pledged to keep their options open as to other avenues which could include a write in campaign in the fall. Trump recently suggested there could be riots if he is not nominated, which one of the leaders of the group, Erick Erickson, eluded to in an interview and drew rebuke from House Speaker paul ryan. In 1860, Abraham Lincoln, it took him three ballots to become the republican nominee. If he can do it without riots in the street, the other candidates should be able to do it as well. Nobody should say such thinges in my opinion because to even address or hint to violence is unacceptable. And then meanwhile politico reports Speaker Paul Ryan met with conservative megadonors in florida last night. And while politico sources say the meeting isnt intended to be about trump, among two dozen in attendance were new York Hedge Fund manager paul singer and chicago cubs coown er todd riks who are investing heavily in the stop trump campaign. In his press conference yesterday, pryian said its increasingly likely were headed for a contested convention and maintained he is still neutral in the president ial battle and will never be a candidate. In the event that no person running for the republican nominee right now gets enough on the first ballot that you will unequivocally not put yourself forward . Its not me. Look, i didnt think i made news, i thought i was pretty clear, to be candid with you. I saw boehner last night and i told him to knock it off. [ laughter ] i used slightly different words. I used his own words that he used to use against us when he told us to knock things off its not going to be me. It should be somebody running for president. Look, i made a decision over a year ago not to run for president. I really believe if you want to be president you should run for president. People are out there campaigning. Theyre canvassing, theres caucuses and primaries. Thats who we should select from among for our next president on whatever ballot were talking about. My goal is to be dispassionate and to be switzerland, to be neutral and dispassionate and to make sure that the rule of lau prevails and to make sure that the delegates make their decision however the rules require them to do that. Nicolle, the press is really, really, really trying to get paul ryan to run for president. I dont know how many ways he can say it differently. This stop Trump Movement, you have a lot of money guys, smart people getting together, they ul want to stop trumps, they have hashtags but at the end of the day they need a candidate. Cant just have hashtags . You need somebody to run the race and defeat donald trump. Is that person out there . Well, there were 17 of them. The stop Trump Movement has been robust and litigated and the people didnt settle on the people that the Hashtag Movement folks wanted. They settled on i guess you cant call them a majority but a plurality settled on donald trump so i may have the least in common sort of with his platform, whatever it may be, but i have the most sympathy for the case hes making. Hes the person theyre voting for and this all just reeks of the same arrogance and denial that brought them to this place. And if this sort of state of denial is a cycle, no one looks like theyre ready to break it. If they want to break the cycle, they should go out to the country, get out of washington and understand why people are voting for them. The reality is, the more the stop Trump Movement is out there, the more it feeds into his brand. The more the establishment, the elite point out there and say no, thats not your candidate people say no, it is our candidate. So maybe the argument, Steve Rattner, is let trump be trump. I talked to one of them yesterday. I dont know that theyre clearly thinking about what the options are. Things like writing in a candidate, they dont understand what would be on involved to try to get on ballots if they were to run a third party candidate. Theres a lot of confusion and disorganization. At the end of the day we know theres nobody except trump who could possibly get to the convention with a majority of delegates. Number two trump will be the one who gets with the most delegates, it may or may not be over 1237 and i dont know if there will be riots and i dont want to encourage riots, im not even sure that trump does, be the idea that the convention is going to reach down to somebody who came in a distant third yet alone reach out into nowhere when you have a guy with 45 , 47 , 48 of the delegates, its surreal. Let me stay on the riot for a long time, ive known donald a long time but i disagree with his politics. He has to stop with the punch and the riots. From knowing him is that what you know of him . Im going to his left brain. Its the right strategic move also. Its time to pivot. At this point even if you cant do it from your soul, do it from a Strategic Point of view. Somebody will get killed at some point. This is my im still stuck a week ago, i know you guys have talked it ad nauseam on the kid getting punched by the hillbilly. My stomach hurt. I totally agree with you. It was the first time i got back and forth thank you for saying that. It made me sad, it made me frightened, it viscerally affected me and i said donald as my friend, dude, this is where it stops. This is where you have to say, hey, im this, im this, im this but at the end of the day im a father, a grandfather, i love my country. I want people to be safe at my events. If you are the leader, that president ial, if youre that strong, a strong man says no and i have the power to stop that from happening. And if i could add some demographic politics, hes almost maxed out sort of the anger vote and if he wants to grow now strategically, yeah. Its time to get the moms. No mom wants to see their kid at a trump rally. I have a friend in seattle and denver that like him but they would never let their kids go to one of his rallies for fear of what might happen to them. On paul ryan, didnt he say those exact words maybe alex could pull it later about being speaker. Just saying. He would be the only in ne theory. Its different now. He is the speaker. Im just saying. Im wondering if a guy like that wants to race his bullet on running for president on a spoiler race. He doesnt. Hes too young. Maybe hes not saying in the a way thats convincing it in the media. Because he said the same thing about being speaker. He doesnt want to be written in on the second and third ballot. And you cant win. This is an interesting twist. Senator Lindsey Graham has made no secret hes a fan of neither donald trump nor ted cruz. Hes definitely said that. He once quipped choosing between trump or cruz is like choosing between being shot and poisoned. Ooh, okay. Well, now hes faced with that choice. Yesterday senator graham announced he will back ted cruz. Heres a look at how senator graham picked his poison. Would ted cruz be a more acceptable nominee than donald trump . No. No . Youre in trouble, my man. Hes going to get killed. When i think of problem solver, the first thing in my mind is not ted cruz. If you kill ted cruz on the floor of the senate and the trial was in the Senate Nobody could convict you. [ laughter ] im not really happy about where the country is right now. Our party and our country is going to have to up its game. If you nominate trump and cruz, i think you get the same outcome. You know, whether its death by being shot or poisoning, does it really matter . We may be in a position where we have to rally around ted cruz as the only way to stop donald trump and im not sure that would work. Youd recommend that in order to stop donald trump . Rally behind ted cruz. I cant believe i would say yes, but yes. So i think the best alternative to donald trump to stop him from getting to 1237 is ted cruz and im going to help ted in every way i can and if i were in one of the states coming up in terms of voting and i didnt like trump, id vote for cruz. That was the whole journey right there. And a ringing endorsement. Hes been through so much. Clearly this is not about him liking ted cruz, this is about him trying to stop donald trump anyhow anyway and he thinks ted cruz has the best chance. Thats the confused tortured reality. But can i say at least hes picking of someone before. The weakness of the stop Trump Movement and what romney did is theres not a political example that you can point to where anyone achieves success by coming out against somebody. So at least lindsey and lindsey is a skilled truth teller in times of despair for the Republican Party but at least he came out and was for somebody. I think its surprising and i think in part its because cruz went 0 for 5 tuesday night there werent more establishment endorsements for cruz or kasich for that matter. The only way i think for the party through this is to back cruz, as distasteful as that would be for everyone. Kasich cant get near there. Unless they think that would be a worse outcome in november. Cruz . And there are some who think that. Well, there are some who think that but i think there are a lot who think that at least cruz is a true conservative and you have that part of them. And marco rubio came out and said ted cruz is the only true conservative left hinting maybe hell come around behind ted cruz as well. Elizabeth warren has made some news this morning, well get to that in a moment. First, the New York Times is reporting on what the paper calls unusually candid remarks by president obama regarding the democratic primary race. The times writes president obama privately told a group of democratic donors last friday that senator Bernie Sanders was nearing the point at which his campaign against Hillary Clinton would end and that the party must soon come together to back her. Thats a quote the president s comments were summarized for the times by three people present at the event and were later confirmed by a white house official. But then heres what White House Press secretary josh earnest had to say about the report at his briefing yesterday. President obama made a case that would be familiar all of you which is that as democrats move through this competitive primary process, we need to be mindful of the fact that our success in november in electing a democratic president will depend on the commitment and ability of the Democratic Party to come together behind our nominee. The president did not indicate or specify a preference in the race. Why was that so saturday . Because i dont think he was actually completely coming to terms with what happened. He obviously did. He obviously did. And, by the way, this is what people hate about washington. Just, you know what . No comment, tell the truth but dont do that. Thats like a very light version of why were dealing with donald trump because hes at least out there in a strange way is it almost better for hillary if bernie stays in the race keeping her sharp, like a team that gets possibly. If shes anointed that was the problem everybody had with her initially going in, its a coronation. Whereas youre going to have this republicans in the knife fight for the next three or four months and if hillary is already sitting on the throne the president is going to back hillary, they have a deal, he ought to keep it closed for a while, but he has it. But do you agree its better for hillary because shes going to end up with the nomination. I dont know how far left she gets. Respectfully, i dont know if i agree with that. By the way, only human being ever in seven years that said respectfully. Well, joes not here so i have to channel joe. With all due respect. Jane, you ignorant shut. Its so early, come on. I think hillary wasnt anointed, she did go through a set of primaries, some of them were tougher than others, shes won the last five of them. Thats my point. To continue that. But why . I think in the past many nominees have become the de facto nominees by the middle of march and shes done that and i think her preference should be now to get on with her priority should be to reach out for disaffected republicans. There there have never been more. Whether its cruz or trump there will be people for whom cruz is too conservative, there will be people for whom trump is too crazy and i think it would be to her advantage to focus on picking up center right voters, not fighting with Bernie Sanders. So the president was trying to nudge people in the right direction without saying inini nudged people in the right direction. Well, the president was in a closed door fundraiser. Theres no such thing as a closed door. So josh earnest was left in a position of dancing around the truth which i can show you another version of that but what i think is really happening here is that Elizabeth Warren might be trying to negotiate herself a very good position in whatever the Clinton Administration might look like. Senator Elizabeth Warren was asked yesterday about Hillary Clintons paid speeches on wall street. Now youd think the answer to that would be crystal clear, right . Elizabeth warren . Should hillary release the wall street speech . Of course she should. Right . Thats what she said, right . Got to be. Take a look. Do you believe that senator clinton should release the transcripts of her speeches to Goldman Sachs . Look, i think that our candidates are out doing what they should do in a primary. They are debating the issues. Youre not answering the question, senator. What im doing is telling you what i think should be going on right now in this election. Well, just a yes or no question, its a yes or no question. Should she release the transcripts or not . I told you i think the primaries are doing what they should be doing and the candidates are being tested. [ laughter ] oh, mika, you must be so depressed. Thats your girl. I think shes going to be veep. There must be something in play here. That was obviously dancing around the topic so i hope you get something good. Well, you just let josh earnest have it for dancing around the topic so lets have i am, in a back handed way im saying she was completely circumventing the question. Im not sure i would have continued the interview and you guys know that im good on that. But that was no answer. There must be some negotiation under way. I hope it works out really well because we need her. Still ahead on morning joe, from the committee at the center of the fight over the Supreme Court, senator Amy Klobuchar joins us, plus congressman steve israel whos walking away from washington after nearly two decades. If youre in austin, catch joe and his band at Austin City Limits. I hate to say this, i dont like joe at all. I saw him two weeks ago, hes really good. Hes not very good on the show a lot of people say that. Blew me away. I was shocked. I was ready to throw tomatoes. Willie and i saw him in des moines and i thought he was good. So theyre playing at the renown south by southwest Festival Tonight at tomorrow at 8 00 p. M. So everyone should go. Now to bill karins for the check on the forecast. Hows the weekend storm looking . A little better meerksika. Yesterday afternoon we got the european computer model in and we were like here we go, game on. Yesterday they were saying six to 12 inch snowfall for all of new england to philadelphia. Thankfully overnight they changed. These are models, not the actual forecast. So it shifted with only snow in eastern portions of new england, very light amounts from d. C. To philadelphia and minor around new york so thats good. Our american computer model agrees that with eastern areas of mass and maine around plowable snow and a nuisance snow around i95. So the roads may be wet or slushy, it will only accumulate on the grass. The other story, we have storms down here in areas of florida. Yesterday we had a significant storm that rolled through around 8 00 to 9 00 a. M. Around the dallasfort worth area. It produced epic hail and a lot of damage was done to the roofs and windshields. This was big enough to smash some of the windshields off on these cars. This was 8 00 or 9 00 in the morning so pretty rare to get a big significant storm like that that early. So the weekend forecast looks like this. Today watch out for Severe Weather texas to louisiana late today. Then tomorrow the rain and storm will be in the southeast. It moves up the coast on sunday and, again, it may snow. Youll probably see snowflakes in d. C. , philadelphia and new york sunday but a lot wont be accumulating during the day. Its after we go to sunday night that areas in eastern new england will have the best chance. Were still about 60 hours away from that event so models could flipflop again. Well keep you update. New york city looking at a gorgeous friday. No problem whatever today or tomorrow. Well watch that storm. Youre watching morning joe. Well be right back. Jake reese, day to feel alive jake reese, day to feel alive trust safelite. With safelites exclusive on my way text youll know exactly when well be there. Giving you more time for what matters most. team sing safelite repair, safelite replace. Trolling for a gig with cant blame you. Its a drone you control with your brain, which controls your thumbs, which control this joystick. No, im actually over at the ge booth. Were creating the Operating System for industry. Its called predix. Its gonna change the way the world works. Ok, im telling my brain to tell the drone to get you a copy of my resume. Umm, maybe keep your hands on the controller. Look out ohhhhhhhhhh. You know what, im just gonna email it to you. Yeah thats probably safer. Ok, cool. Youre a republican. Thats right. If donald trump is the nominee, the republican nominee, will you vote for him . Sue van, im not going to answer. Dont ask that. In your book, its clear you dont think islam hates america, that you dont think all muslims should be banned from entering the United States. Is there a point where you would feel compelled to come off the sidelines to speak against proposals like that . This is what i want americans to remember, what our real values are. And one of the very first things, one of the reasons were a country is because we believed in freedom of religion. Thats former First Lady Laura Bush there speaking out by not speaking out on donald trump saying dont ask that question. She is such a wonderful, gracious woman. Shes so lovely. One issue driving the vote this election cycle is trade. Exit polls showed us once again on tuesday thats the case in ohio and North Carolina. The majority of Republican Voters believe trade negatively affects u. S. Jobs. A similar story on the democrats side although voters from North Carolina are more divided on whether trade creates or hurts american jobs. Steve rattner has some charts to better explain the role trade is playing in this election, how Bernie Sanders and donald trump are benefitting. Steve, what have you got . Just to start with the polls. To start from your exit poll numbers about the benefits of trade, and trump won those voters is basically the bottom line, both in ohio, a state he lost, as well as in North Carolina. He did extremely well among those voters and so did Bernie Sanders. So they are appealing to people who feel trade is hurting us. But lets look at both sides of trade and start with the benefits of trade because trade does help the country as a whole. I dont think most economists would disagree with that. Estimating the benefits is a little bit hard but there are numbers around the 300 billion to 500 billion range, putting that into perspective, thats about that could be as much as a thousand, the two thousand dollars for every american that theyre better off because there is a trade. We have a huge number of jobs tide to trade. 20 of all jobs relate to trade and its not just in things you might think about like manufacturing but service jobs and things have an export component to them. And then most importantly the benefit that all of us at this table and many of our viewers see is in lower prices so things that we dont make here very much anymore are much cheaper because they can be made less expensively elsewhere. Tvs and computers down 70 to 85 . Furniture down 7 . With toys and computers theres a technology element, but with furniture, bedding, toys, its a matter of people making them less expensively elsewhere and we get the benefit in lower prices we paid. But there are problems with trade and particularly with both jobs and wages. So if you start with jobs you can see that over the last 15 years we have lost over 70 of our textile and apparel jobs. So if you want to understand what was happening in North Carolina and South Carolina in those primary votes you can you should see how many textile workers dont have their jobs anymore. If you want to get an idea what was happening in michigan and ohio you can look at autos. Ohio is the second biggest auto state after michigan where even with the auto recovery, even with the good stuff thats happening with cars, were still 30 fewer jobs than we had 15 years ago in the auto sector. And then it also affects wages and if you take a look at this wage chart, you can see that since the beginning of the recovery, wages for people in the economy as a whole have risen about 2. 5 after adjusting for inflation. People in service sectors, financial services, information, education, hospitality and leisure, even the lowpaid service jobs and hotels and things have all seen their wages go up a little bit. Whos seen their wages go down . Its been people in manufacturing and down 2. 5 sorry, down. 8 and in the Auto Industry down by a staggering 12 . So if you want to understand why people in these places, especially those working class white males that we talk about a lot are disaffected, they have a good reason to be. , we and also, isnt this everyone is so concerned what about exactly is drawing people to trump, is this one very legitimate reason why trump could go do well in those places that you mentioned. When you talk about putting up 35 tariff barriers, when you talk about forcing companies to make things in america again, that appeals to people who basically think they lost their jobs because these other countries competed with us and took our jobs away. Whats the impact in reality, though, putting up a tariff like that. It would be disastrous. It would be totally disastrous. Heres the irony of this whole thing, and maybe nicolle wont like this answer. Heres the irony. The republicans to some degree create their own problem. Really . Never heard that before. But the republicans for the last seven years have basically blocked any kind of policy action, any kind of initiative, many of which obama has proposed that would have made the lives better for these people who are now very unhappy. So its boomeranged. The failure isnt a policy failure, the failure is republicans dont have an eloquent rational relatable advocates for free trade so the party is devoid of people who can talk about how trade benefits your life. Everyone can have those products that were on your list because of trade. There are no add cats and, frankly, if its hillary versus trump there will be no debate about the benefits of trade. I dont think you can sell the benefits of free trade right now when you have so many individuals and so many key states who are hurting. I think what we should have done but its pandering to their fears. There are benefits of free trade. This is part of the crackup of the Republican Party. It no longer has a candidate in convention whos an advocate for free trade. But if you look at the exit polls, for people who believe free trade has helped us, john kasich wins those. Obviously john kasich doesnt have a lot of voters. Because theres not a powerful defender of the benefits of free tranchtde. The Republican Party would have been better off if we had done something over the last 10, 15 years too help these people. And if there were someone to communicate about the larger benefits to their lives. And thats been Donald Trumps big hit on john kasich is that he voted for nafta and look what happened in ohio. Same hit on hillary. Basically john kasich has been measure bud hes been saying what you want him to say. You have to understand there are benefits from free trade. But if somebody thinks they lost their job because of it, all the benefits in the world wont talk them out of it. Coming up, the mustread opinion pages. Plus, a lot of people waking up to busted brackets. If you picked yale to go on i did you probably went to yale if you chose yale to win. I didnt, sadly, didnt get in. Morning joe will be back in a moment. 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The world needs villains [tires screeching] and villains need cars. If you have a chance to get it into princes hands you, do otherwise you go far. Finish, turns it over, march magic for the yale bulldogs. Two seconds left. [ buzzer sounding ] that will do it. Faker. Whoa thats a jam. Inbound. Wide open disbelief for the trow janse. Hagan dribbling it out. It looks good. Hagans go to the basket, puts up a shot and ties it again. Double overtime coming up. He missed it. Edwards at the buzzer, no good. Little rock is moving on little rock beating purdue yesterday, just one of the upsets in day one of the ncaa tournament, a big bracketbusting day. You saw a pair of number 12 teams knock off their fifth ranked opponents. University of arkansas little rock outlasted purdue in double ot and the ivy league outdoes the big 12 as yale wins its firstever tournament game, beating baylor in the bulldogs first appearance since 1962. Yale hasnt been in the tournament since 1962. The baylor forward had one explanation for the 7975 loss. How does yale outrebound baylor . You go up and you grab the ball off the rim when it comes off and then you grab it with two hands and you come down with it and thats considered a rebound. So they got more of those than we did. I love that guy. I love that guy. That was awesome. Everybody talks about these are such upsets. In the last two years, number fives versus number 12 opening round 88. So much is just seedings. That was so funny something about yale, though, never having been there. Yale outrebounded baylor 3632. We saw two 11 seeds beat sixth ranked teams. Gonzaga heads in after pulling a win over seton hall. I had seton hall in the final four and Wichita State shocks arizona 6555 in round one. As you can see here, arizona coach sean miller really feeling the heat during the game against Wichita State. Just drenched in sweat. Well, hes busy. He had to change his shirt at half time. 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The delegates are not bound, theyre free to vote their conscience on all issues before the convention and the nominations. If i was dead set right now on preventing donald trump from being the nominee of the Republican Party and i myself were a republican, it seems i would be putting my effort into making sure i knew who was going to be serving on the rules committee that is going to set the rules for the convention a week before it starts. Well, youre absolutely right. Of course i think that work is going on right now. That was a member of the rnc rules committee on cnbc and late we are chris says suggest suggesting the fate of the nominee rests firmly on the hands of the republican insiders, not the voters. Joining us now, msnbc chief Legal Correspondent ari melber and in washington chief White House Correspondent for politico mike allen. Ari, you have been talking to a dozen rnc insiders on the rules committee about a possible contested convention. What are they saying . We have a new report debuting right now here on morning joe. We spoke over a third of the Standing Committee on rules, this is the rnc folks who write these rules, they do the first draft, as we just heard that other member mention because hes a member of this committee, they send it to Convention Rules committee. What were being told by these folks overwhelmingly is it is fine to stop donald trump at the convention indeed, they say the rules have always allowed for that. Heres what henry barber told us. Trump doesnt get a pass because he has a hundred more delegates than anyone else. If he cant convince a majority of delegates to vote for him, he wont be the nominee. The process is fair, its been around for decades and we shouldnt change it for the head of Trump University. But we also spoke to many who said that is true up to a point for whoever is left but you cannot go in and do the paul ryan option or the mitt romney option. Indeed, out of the 19 members of the committee we reached, only three were open to that. Here was the response to that idea that you would add in a candidate in cleveland. This is one who wanted to speak to us without their name on it but they said you want to have a world war iii and destroy the party . Then you change the rules drastically, you will have a problem, it will be a hotly contested convention. But the rules do allow if he doesnt get the number, right . Then what happens . Thats the question. Loses on the first ballot. Typically on the first ballot everyone is bound. Theres something called rule 16, its considered a permanent rule. If you come in with 45 support, those delegates support you and, indeed, under the current permanent rules if anyone breaks ranks on you, if f someone tries to drop from donald trump theyre dedelegated. Their vote wouldnt count. Then you have on the later ballots in a thicket of rules that relate to what were talking about, rnc rules plus state rules where people are bound or unbound. What you heard Curley Haugland say, he has a minority view thats more extreme that the delegates should only decide, primaries shouldnt mean anything. But i want to be clear, what were hearing from the insiders who have been thinking about this, on rules committees at prior conventions, people go back to 1976 when you did have balloting when ford had to beat back reagan. Theyre saying the establishment idea, the stop trump idea that you would bring in someone, paul ryan or anyone else, theyre saying thats dead on arrival. Weve heard a lot of speculation in washington from some establishment types who dont like donald trump that thats one way to stop him. Theyre saying they wont allow that if they have any input. Ultimately its the second rules committee rat the convention that decides on that rules package, they can open it up but they need support to do that. They have to be very careful. I remember learning in my High School Civics class about president ial elections, its not the voters who decide, its old curley haughland who picks the president. [ laughter ] so we get through the first ballot, everybodys bound, on the second ballot, what happens in . Is the Cruz Campaign going around to these individual delegates and making their case . How does it work . If past is precedent, and as i say, several rnc members i spoke to say past should be precedent. Some say if its open we can do anything we want. If past is precedent its not like anything can happen, its other names on the ballot, the rule decide what they are and so then if, for example, you only allow trump and cruz on the ballot and trump didnt clear on the first ballot if he was only a bit short he might, but if he doesnt clear, yes, you have to most intense jockeying. Think of the money and the energy and the intensity in this entire campaign, it would all boil down to getting those delegates and you can do that through any lawful means of persuasion cape persuasi persuasion, cajoling, legal threatening. One distinction. What they said, the 13 out of 16 who sid no way on an outside candidate, is that from a rules point of view or their point of view point of view . Theres a distinction there because all bets are off on this thing. Correct. So thats why its one thing if its law, which its not. The law is on the first youre bound, after that so im going to be somewhat and there are no laws, donny, this is just rules. Rules. So im going to say even though theyre saying that, to me i think in this cycle all bets are off. I think your question, the premise of your question goes to why this is so fascinating and so uncharted. We spoke to several rnc rules members who said, well, well do what the rules allow. Well do what the rules allow. Well, they write the rules and the Convention Committee has the final say on the rules so, yes, the rules can say anything. One more point on procedure because we all love procedure. The Convention Delegates can vote by majority to suspend the rules at any time. So unlike an election that is controlled by a government that has some overseeing, that if youre in a state thats the secretary of state, that i check the boxes, make sure there are certain things that have fallen. Uhhuh. This is a private meeting at the end of the day. If a majority wants to do something, they can do it. In the words of belushi in animal house food fight. Its going to be wild unless trump can get the majority before we get there. And theres a presumption that trump will be terrible at this. The presumption of the conversations that they had is that trump would not and could not outorganize the cruz camp or the kasich camp. I think its another example of the establishments arrogance when it comes to trump. He has as much potential as the rest of them in playing and gaming these rules. And willie i would not underestimate donald trump. Our reporting suggests he has a team in place ready, he has a lawyer at jones day and the political law practice. Who works on this stuff all day everyday. A former fec commissioner. The Donald Trump Campaign has a public message about these things and they have proven to be very shrewd about actually having a backup plan. Lets get to mike allen for a different angle on this election, politico reporting that many vulnerable House Republicans are planning a head in the sand strategy when it comes to donald trump. Reading from the piece, politico interviewed a half dozen lawmakers in tough reelection races, once who have perhaps the most to fear about trump as their general election standard bearer. Their plan, in a word, is to ignore him, disregard the racket in the president ial race and keep it local. Whether voters will do the same is another matter, but theyre playing the hand theyve been dealt. Few republican lawmakers were comfortable discussing trump. Some would not even utter his name. Mike, conventional wisdom is that donald trump will kill republicans down ballot in these races. Does it work to just ignore the guy . Can you ignore donald trump . No, willie. And what were seeing in this story, read between the lines and you see in the stages of trump grief for republicans the move toward acceptance in this story kevin mccarthy, the number two House Republican pointing out that excitement about trump may actually turn out voters, increase turnout. Weve seen people in the senate side saying that turnout could come up. So these house members are saying, yes, we can run along with them and, willie, some Fascinating Research thats going on in d. C. And this is going to be one of the most argued over and courted groups of voters in america. Senate candidates are trying to figure out who are those voters who would be a trump no but would be open to voting for a Republican Senate or house member. So a lot of your traditional republicans. Both sides will be targeting those people and right now theres Research Going on to figure out who those people are, what they look like. Another story up on the top of politico saying that the trump opponents dazed and demoralized. Willie on the show the other morning you were saying all these stories about a secret meeting to stop donald trump had almost turned to parody and thats what were seeing. They realize theyre too late, that theyre out of time and so that this is more part of moving toward how do we work with donald not try to have some fantasy that hes not going to be there. Mike, theres been some report too in the last couple weeks that senate republicans, those running for reelection, have been privately given permission to run against donald trump. Do you think well see that . Some of it. In a state, for instance, rob portman in ohio in a tough race, kelly ayotte in New Hampshire you can see them doing that but they are going to recognize the problem of other members of the republican field. Remember what joe used to say about old timmy tebow, all he does is win. And these powerful numbers that are turning out from donald trump, hes on track to get so close to that delegate number in cleveland. These candidates are going to be as reluctant as president ial candidates were to run against him. Thats why were getting the head in the sand strategy. All this discussion is simple, it will come down to the republicans. Do they want donald trump or Hillary Clinton . Because trump will stand up, rightfully so, people chose me, im running which means were giving it to hillary, decide. Would you rather have hillary or me . End of discussion. Donny deutsch, thank you. Hapy friday and happy weekend. I cannot believe its friday. Coming up, shes stumping for Hillary Clinton, pushing a Supreme Court nominee and packing her bags for cuba. Senator Amy Klobuchar has a full plate and she joins us just ahead. N be. Oh no this mom didnt have time to worry about a cracked windshield. So she scheduled at safelite. 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I think hes quite shakespearean. Why do his colleagues hate him . Because he did that shutdown thing. Lindsey graham loves him. Oh, yeah, lindsey endorsed him. Welcome back to morning joe. Its friday, march 18, joe is in austin today. Guess what hes doing . Playing the guitar . Informing at south by southwest the festival, isnt that cool . Can i give him another plug . I dont like joe, i dont think hes very good at this show. But i happened to see him a couple weeks ago, hes really good. Its bizarre. He has a nine person band, morning joe music. Everybody in the band is amazing. It was funny. Writes all the songs and performing at baby southwest at Austin City Limits. I was shocked, hes really good. With us on set we have obviously donnie, former treasury official Steve Rattner is here and in washington nbc news chief Foreign Affairs correspondent and host of Andrea Mitchell reports Andrea Mitchell. Also former governor of vermont and former chairman of the Democratic National committee, howard dean. Great group on this friday morning. Lets get it going. The Republican National Convention Opens in exactly four months from today. Thats not a lot of time. Four months for a band of Party Relations who remain determined to stop donald trump from gaining its nomination to enact their plan. In Downtown Washington yesterday conservative activists met privately to devise that plan. They settled on calling for a unity ticket though who it consists of might be unclear which would be problematic. If you dont have someone it is again, Steve Rattner, Like Fighting obamacare saying i hate it, we shouldnt have it but we dont a better idea. Leaving options open to a former candidate who someone maybe ran that they encouraged all former and current candidates to hold on to their delegates on the first ballot and pledged to keep their options open to other avenue which is could include a writein campaign in the fall. Who would that be . Steve rattner. Yeah, right. Ratner. Eugene robinson writes in the washington post, the gop stop Trump Movement is a pathetic joke. The stop Trump Movement in the Republican Party has been thus far a pathetic joke. The fecklessness of the whole endeavor was encapsulated by mitt romneys performance earlier this month. He told voters why they should not vote for donald trump but stopped short of endorsing an alternative. What did i just say, Steve Rattner . Anyone disagree . Cant argue with that. No. They have no other options. They have no options. So theyre trying to figure out how to bend the rules. The reason they have no other options and i said this before the break is because it will come down to trump st d standing up, rightfully so, saying look, i got 1200 or close, if you dont think the people should speak to me, ill go on my own and hillary will get elected. I dont see how this ends well. Ari melber just reported the rules committee, the people who make the rules, are not open to having an outside candidate come in at the last second so it will be one of the three people you get. Howard dean, this allows donald trump to make the case to his supporters that, look, theyre trying to steal the election from us, you voted for me, i won the states, i did what i had to do, i had the most delegates if not a majority, a plurality, bring them to cleveland and he can rightly say theyre trying to take it away from us. The interesting thing about this is the majority of people who are putting donald trump into the lead in the republican nomination are probably not republicans. They are independent people, reagan democrats whove been voting republican for a very long time. Theres actually a fairly significant crossover between Bernie Sanders and donald trump voters. And so to do this is to publicly alienate all these relatively independentminded voters from the Republican Party. Its a disaster. If theyre going to do it, they ought to go back to the smokefilled rooms and shut up and not talk to the news. [ laughter ] so peggy noonan writes in the wall street journal will the gop break apart or evolve . Andrea mitchell, that and trade and certain other kind of i think moments in our history in terms of where the people are might lead trump to everything that he needs to win this. I think there is a big crossover vote, i agree absolutely with howard dean. The fact is that Hillary Clinton is not winning white men and, you know, she won them 2008 because she was running, lets face it, against barack obama. So a lot of the angry white men, some of whom are chickly d econ disadvantaged and have lost jobs and are resentful, they were voting for Hillary Clinton for complicated reasons. Those people are not with her so far in these primaries and for most of the primaries shes losing the white men to Bernie Sanders whos appealing to them on those very Economic Issues of trade that you speak of. And theres also the celebrity factor. And i dont think we should discount that. Theres social media which is completely different just since four years ago to say nothing of eight years ago in terms of its expansion and penetration but also the fact that celebrity television whatever you want to call it is a much bigger deal and that donald trump has completely dominated all forms of media. Andrea, its donnie. Obviously the white men is the vulnerability for hillary but that stunning commercial that the antitrump ran yesterday with women kind of quoting back some of these things he said on howard stern, sure. As an ad guy i found it one of the most compelling pieces of communication ive ever seen. Obviously the math in terms of hispanics and africanamericans, particularly women line up so hard against him. How does he get past that woman hurdle where hes going to be facing that and then some . Thats the big challenge because that ad is aimed not just at being against trump but at, look, its aimed at the republican suburban women who have been the key to republican victories when you see a gender gap as big as we could have in this matchup, if it is Hillary Clinton versus donald trump, this is the womans vote that that ad is aimed at, exactly. If i was you were talking about this. How do you walk into that . Because its such a gutlevel powerful truthful message. To your point, suburban women are the swing voters, a big part of them, how do you combat that if youre donald . Well, Hillary Clinton is not winning independents. Shes not winning independents, shes not winning young people, shes not winning, as i say, white men. So you go at her vulnerabilities and what he is hinting at is that this could be one of the nastiest campaigns weve ever seen in modern history. I think the women issue is kind of like might cancel each other out in terms of how ugly it could get. Who knows, willie . Senator harry reid lashed out at Majority Leader Mitch Mcconnell and Congressional Republicans over the obstruction of president obamas Supreme Court nominee and how their actions have fuelled the rise of donald trump. Republican establishment acts bewildered, but they should not be bewildered. As much as they try to distance themselves from trump now, Republican Leaders are responsible for his rise. Republican leaders created the drought conditions, donald trump has simply struck the match. A sort of punch first ask questions later leadership is what weve come to expect from donald trump. We know where he learned it. If senator mcconnell wonders from where donald trump came, he should take a look in the mirror. All the time donald trump was watching, watching. He saw rampant extremism condoned by Republican Leaders who were either too cowardly or powerless to do anything about it. So when trump calls immigrants rapists and murderers hes doing what he learned from generations of conservatives. The Republican Party has become without question the party of trump. For too long, some economists have tried to have it both ways, giving trump occasionally a slap on the wrist each time he says something detestable but always committing to support him at the end of the day. Its precisely the kind of moral cowardice that enabled the rise of trump. I think the problem here is that thats not going to work and i well, its just not. Im not saying i agree or disagree it with. Everyone simmer down on twitter but your reaction and mine was the same. Shaking your head. I think its not really quite the facts. Exactly. Theres a lot you can say about the republicans but the idea that they somehow theyre not the ones who have been talking about putting up walls. Theyre not the ones talking about 35 tariffs on imported goods. Theyre not the ones who have been at least vocally trashing the immigrants and they want to be rid of trump. You know, i would just repeat what i said before that i think the one legitimate point i think you can make about the republicans is they enabled trump by basically blocking for seven years any kind of productive policy out of washington so you have a situation in which congress has a 12 approval rate, most americans think the country is on the wrong track because weve not done very much and so theyve helped create that problem. But i think the rest of it is a bit farfetched. There was plenty of finger pointing yesterday during a house hearing in the water crisis in flint, michigan. Governor rick snyder testified the States Department of Environmental Quality repeatedly assured him that the water from the flint river is safe, this while the head of the epa Gina Mccarthy accused the state of providing it with unreliable information but ultimately conceded the agency didnt respond quickly enough. Both leaders took lashings from lawmakers. I see responsibility. I see people that are getting fired. I see changes. I see an admission that there was fundamental wrong that happened within the organization. But then when i turn the epa, has anybody been fired . Thats a question. No, sir. Has anybody been dismissed . No, sir. You need to have the information to determine an imminent substantial threat so why do we need an epa if you cant do that. Im sorry, let me no, im asking the questions. Okay. Yes. Okay. In february is when you first arrived on the scene and it wasnt until january of the next year that you actually did something. Thats the fundamental problem. Dont look around like youre mystified. Thats what happened. You had the authority, you had the backing of the federal government and you did not act when you had the chance and if youre going to do the courageous thing, you, too, should step down. To put it in perspective, ranking member cummings, these are the kind of red flags, though, that i kick myself. I wish i would have asked more question, but i was getting hold on, i want you to finish your kicks. Did that Emergency Management system fail under your leadership in this instance . In this instance it would be much to the case i have that as you wish they would have asked more questions is that a yes or a no . In this particular case with respect to the water issue . That would be a fair conclusion. Were you wrong to run that government like a business . In terms of running it like a business, a government is not a business. It isnt. So why would you say it should be run like one . In terms of accountability and measurements and delivering real results to the people and in terms of not just flint but the state of michigan im very proud we did things, healthy michigan, bringing medicaid expansion, bringing healthy kids dental care you can go talk about all the things you want to talk about. Im going to ask the questions i want to ask. You were not in a medically induced coma for a year. [ laughter ] and ive had about enough of your false contrition and your phony apologies. You admit today that even after the whole world knew that Flint Residents were exposed to unimaginable levels of lead you did not declare a state of emergency until january, 2016. Isnt that true . I took immediate action as soon as i learned there was a lead issue. We started issuing filters to people, doing water testing, blood testing. To be open i wish more would have been done. Governor snyder, plausible deniability only works when its plausible and im not buying you didnt know about any of this until october, 2015. Pretty soon, we will have men who strike their wives saying im sorry, dear, but there were failures at all levels. People who put dollars over the fundamental safety of the people do not belong in government. And you need to resign, too, Governor Snyder. Oh, my god. Okay first of all, yes, everyone obviously screwed up terribly and whats happened in flint is an embarrassment to our country and apparently its happening in other places as well but im really glad these lawmakers took their moment in the sun to look so tough. Cant they pass some sort of emergency legislation to actually do something . Cant they get involved in a way thats constructive if theyre going to be so highly critical and grandstand on the highest level against people who were clearly wrong on many levels . I mean, i just shook my head. Again, trump. Thats all i say. Because people are so sick of that. Willie just said we wonder why people hate politicians. What a bunch of idiots they look like. Trump u. What did you just say . I said Trump University. Oh, i thought you said Something Else. [ laughter ] thats a Great Campaign slogan. Trump you like laura bush, im not going to answer what i said. So look at this, four decades ago, love canal, remember that . It was an unfinished waterway, for those who dont know, that was a chemical dumping ground in the 1940s until it was sold and made the site of a school and soon an entire neighborhood. Inform the 70s, families complained of illness, miscarriages and other effects. The federal government declared a state of emergency, moving hundreds out of the neighborhood, buying homes of hundreds more who wished the leave the area. The disaster led the government to pass the law that created the superfund designation and according to the epa, president carter approved emergency Financial Aid for the love canal area, the first emergency funds ever to be approved for something other than a natural disaster. If you need a precedent, its not completely correlational here but come on, come on. Everybody. But what it shows is the difference between washington then and washington now. Exactly. Washington then did stuff, fixed problems and got them done. Now they sit there and grandstand. Youre so great because off nasty opinion of those who messed up so badly. I dont want to ever hear those people again, i really dont. Im so sick of washington. Andrea mitchell, am i being too tough here . Youre not being too tough and the most compelling thing was stephanie gosk, our correspondent was there, shes been covering this from the beginning. You had Governor Snyder saying repeatedly he was going to carry this with him for the rest of his life and stephanie interviewed a father with a twoyearold child who spent every christmas in the hospital, major problems, lung problems, legionnaires disease with this child, this little girl and he said hes going carry this for the rest of his life . My child is going to carry this for the rest of her life. This father works is a pastor in that community. And those families who were there, they came by bus, 12 hours from flint to sit through that hearing and they were just appalled by it. Theres so much blame to go around but the fact that the stake took it over, the state made the decisions, the epa failed to follow up but theres plenty of fwliem go around and congress is grandstanding. Howard dean, even by washington standards, that was horrifying. I was horrified. But the disgrace that happened in flint, and usa today is reporting its happening in towns across the country. 350 schools and Day Care Centers testing for elevated levels of lead and kids just like andrea described. Thats not just happening in flint, thats happening everywhere. So the point if we can strip away the bad jokes written by staffers is how do we prevent this from happening somewhere else . Well, first of all, its true that the epa and Governor Snyder dropped the ball here. But i was like mika i was disgusted by the Congress People on both sides with one of whom is a good friend. That doesnt prove anything and thats what the American People want to throw up when they see that. These guys get paid about 180,000 a year to sit in washington and hope they have hearings like this so they can carry on, yell and scream. What has Congress Done about this . Nothing. Zero. Nothing. At least snyder and Gina Mccarthy are trying to do something. Did they screw up . Yes, they did. Of course. Are they trueing to do something about it . Yes, they are. Now if i were somebody in congress i would like to see congress with leadership that would appropriate money to fix these communities all over the place because everyday that this goes on that this isnt fixed more kids will be permanently brain damaged. Am disgusted with congress. My view of them just went down and thats a hard place to get to. Where is their emergency legislation . Where is their Emergency Action . Where are they . Theyre on recess. Living their comfortable lives thinking about their next elections. Really . Okay. Thats the way they want to be, thats why you are going to get donald trump. Trump u he just got a freebie from you. This is his do you think i was saying Trump University . No, but i think thats the new tagline. Because i was. Trump you, vote for me. Still ahead on morning joe, congressman steve israel and senator Amy Klobuchar, maybe they can explain this to us. Plus Donald Trumps personal information leaked. The republican frontrunner is undergoing attacks from the Group Anonymous. Hallie jackson joins with us that. And if you are in austin, texas, today, or this week bend sure to catch joe and his band at austinty limits. Can you believe that this . Its a really good band. They are playing at the renown south by southwest Festival Tonight and tomorrow night at 8 00. Come join them, youre watching morning joe. Well be right back. Another on. I have an orcogram for an owen. Thats me. You should hire stacy drew. She wants to change the world with you. She can program jet engines to talk and such. Her biggest weakness is she cares too much. Thank you. 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We won nice thats another safelite advantage. Thank you so much team sing safelite repair, safelite replace. I see your senator, what a stiff, what a stiff. Lindsey graham. I got called a jackass by this guy and i said to myself, hey, didnt this guy call me four years ago . And he gave me his number and i found the card. I wrote the number down. I dont know if its the right number. Lets try it. 202[ bleep ] its three or four years ago so maybe its an old number. That was donald trump in july giving out Lindsey Grahams phone number. I guess thats why he picked ted cruz. During a speech in South Carolina, joining us from tucson, arizona, hallie jackson. Hallie, you are reporting on a hammer gro hacker group claiming to have done something similar to trump. Absolutely, mika, even though it sounds like that information has been out floating around the internet for months or even in some cases years, but that group, anonymous, seems to be trying to get attention for its socalled war against donald trump. Taking aim not just at his politics but his personal life. Now claiming credit for hacking donald trump, the Group Anonymous calling him a would be dictator. We are very serious about stopping any proposed forurth reich by donald trump. They claim theyve released his numbers and Social Security numbers. Donald trump said Law Enforcement is investigating. Anonymous trying to get attention for their socalled war on trump. In washington, a very different battle to try and stop him, less public, too, after a secret huddle of frustrated conservatives, reassessing how to slow trump down since attack ads like this new one havent seemed to do much. He wants more Government Health care. Reporter their plan . Call for a unity ticket. If that doesnt work, plot out strategy for a contested convention, House Speaker paul ryan acknowledging that scenario looks more likely. Were getting our minds around the idea that this could very well become a reality. Reporter now taking aim at trump for warning what could happen at a convention if he leads in delegates but doesnt get the nomination. I think youd have riots. We have im representing a tremendous, many, many millions of people. Nobody should say such thing s s in my opinion to hint at violence is unacceptable. While the stop Trump Movement wants unity, theyre not saying who conservatives should unify behind. Talk of ted cruz and marco rubio teaming up shot down. No. Im not going to be anybodys vice president. Rubio now praising cruz as conservative as the texas senator faces more attacks from donald trump. This new photoshopped poster of the movie liar liar puts cruzs head on jim carreys body. But cruz may get the last half, now backed by an unlikely former foe, senator Lindsey Graham raising money for cruz less than a month after cracking there joke. If you kill ted cruz on the floor of the senate and the trial was in the senate, nobody could convict you. [ laughter ] reporter talk about an unlikely pairing, strange bedfellows here. Ted cruz will need the help of colleagues like Lindsey Graham if he wants to republican nomination but its hard. You know hes famously disliked in washington. Publicly the campaign will talk about cruz interacting with his colleagues in a professional way. Privately a Campaign Aide tells me who do they reach out to in order to pick up these endorsements . Its a difficult line for cruz to watch because of the reputation he has in washington and inside the beltway. For example, im told that he didnt know about the nikki haley support until after it happened and then even when Lindsey Graham started to soften his stance against ted cruz a couple of weeks ago, the campaign found out through that basically how even else did, looking at it online through twitter. So for cruz this is something hell have to work on moving forward trying to make sure he gets the support from the washington colleagues that he has while still keeping his message of railing against the Washington Cartel that seems to resonate with his supporters. Nbcs hallie jackson, thank you, good to see you finally there with some light on you. Joining us now, conservative strategist lisa booth, shes president of communication firms high noon strategies and contributor to the washington examin examiner. Explain the stop Trump Movement. It doesnt have a good alternative. Thats the problem because look there is no you cant deny its inarguable the fact that the vitriol for donald trump among many republicans. Two thirds of Republican Voters dont support him. If you look at exit polling from tuesday night, 37 of Republican Voters say they will. What you see right now is the split of the Republican Party. Why isnt the alternative ted cruz . Well, with senator Lindsey Graham stepping forward but he did it like this. He held his nose. He did. And he said the difference between picking between trump and ted cruz is either getting shot or poison so thats not really coming from a strong place or strong endorsement. But i think it indicates the movement potentially toward senator cruz and the reality that these guys will have to make a tough decision between two people that they didnt like very much. Hes completely unelectable in the general election. Do you agree with that . Hes completely no matter how you slice and dice, ted cruz you may like or not like donald trump but he could strike lightning in a general election. Ted cruz is unelectable and i think thats the reason they dont go to him. I would argue i think Hillary Clinton is going to have some problems, too. Just the fact that but shes clearly electable. Well see. Shes having the fact she has a race against a 74yearold selfavowed socialist and shes losing millennials by 80 in these contests or the fact shes doing so poorly among white men or the fact that people think shes a liar, you look at a contest like New Hampshire and the voters that trust is an issue for them and a prominent issue for them in their decision making, they went to bernie 92 to 6 . Thats well and good but you dont have a candidate, you dont have a strategy, you dont have a way to make this happen so and you dont have any agreement among your group as to what you want to do so its hard. All of us would like to stop trump, at least i would, but i havent heard anything from your group that suggests that you have a way to two it. Well, im trying to look at the race objectively. All right, fine. But the group of people who are trying to do it. I dont discount that. Thats the point i made to mika. Thats the biggest problem with the movement is that you have to rally behind a candidate and maybe senator ted cruz they dont have a strategy. Heres the thing, there is an undeniable antiestablishment sentiment. Eight governors are gone, four senators are gone and now were sitting with donald trump and ted cruz who are as antiestablishment as you can possibly get. Donald trump wants to completely blow up the system and governor kasich has only one his state. Well, anyhow, the club for growth has spent about 5. 9 million against donald trump this cycle and now theyre hitting trump in utah with an ad there ahead of tuesdays caucus. Take a wbr id wbr54802 look. Some people think governmentrun taxpayer paid health care is a disaster. And some dont. So we will have quality, Affordable Health care for every american. Universal health care . Im going to take care of everybody. Who pays for it . The government will pay for it. Ask donald trump why he sides with Hillary Clinton and why he wants more Government Health care. Okay, what do you think . Well, i mean, look do you wbr id wbr55102 think it will have any impact . I dont know because hes already had more than 35 million spent against him. Look at the intensity of the ads b in florida and the fact he won this state so substantially, this guy is like teflon, hes been able to survive a lot of attacks. But do the math. Its mathematically impossible for kasich to get a majority of the delegates, cruz has to win 87 of the remaining to get a majority. Donald trump is going to arrive in cleveland either with a majority or as the leading number of delegate holders and i think its going to be very hard for the Republican Party to derail that. I want to respond to that ad. Theyre getting it all wrong. Youre not going to ever convince people who are Trump Supporters on issues, on leftbrain mentality. The way to beat donald trump is you go right at women, right at latinos, right at blacks with a very aggressive fear message. If this guy is in office, you better watch out. Youre not going to beat trump on logical things that, oh, hes for health care, dont vote. They dont care. Okay, i want to follow up on a conversation that we had last block about flint, andrea mitchell. Debbie stab nenow just sent me email. Two months ago senator peters and i introduced emergency legislation to fund efforts to replace the Water Infrastructure in flint along with addressing Public Health issues. Senator inhofe is our main cosponsor along with four other dems and four republicans. Senator lee is blocking it from getting a vote. After the break, well continue to push for the vote. Thats mike lee of utah. Really . Do we disagree on flibt . We cant get emergency legislation on flint . Its hard to believe. I mean, i am very sympathetic to those who complain about things not being paid for and about the growing deficit and what we are doing to our military. The sequester, which i think was one of the biggest disasters afflicting both congress and this white house but the fact that they are not coming up with the money, its pennies compared to what we spend on other things. I invite mike lee to come on the show. This is not a massive infrastructure bill. This is a crisis that needs to be dealt with i invite mike lee to come on the show and explain how he can oppose this. Its not mike lee, though, its also the House Republicans. 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A group of senators gathered outside the Supreme Court yesterday offering a message to republicans. All were asking is for republicans to do their job. The American People overwhelmingly believe republicans have the responsibility to do their job because people get up and go to work everyday and do theirs. Reporter according to politico, democrats are planning to take aim at republican senators up for reelection, top among them, judiciary chair chuck grassley. Nbc news has confirmed at least eight republican senators have said theyre open to at least meeting with garland though some say that may not be that productive. Senator grassley was quoted as saying if i can meet with a dictator in uganda i can surely meet with a decent person in america. Well, thank you. Joining us now is that weird . No i think hi he made a logical comment. He made it clear how absurd it is for some republicans say they wont meet with him. Delayed reaction. Joining us now, congressman steve israel of new york, chairman of the house policy and communications committee. Welcome back. How are you . Im doing well, thank you. What do you make of the garland bat until you think there will be one . This is a matter of common sense. This is where republicans are so out of touch with the American People. The American People are paying senators to do a job. They expect their senators to have a confirmation hearing, they expect their senators to debate and respect the constitution and they expect their senators to vote yes or vote no but vote. And when you have republicans who say we wont even open the door, that is why the American People have lost faith in government as an institution. Is that why trumps doing so well . Its one of the reasons that trump is doing well. Why do you think so Many Democrats say theyre going to vote for trump . Well, first of all, Hillary Clinton has more popular votes than donald trump does right now in any candidate. But do you concede that there are democrats who are supporting trump . Theres no question that donald trump is tapping into an historic anxiety. A convergence of issues confronting the American People. The loss of faith in government and an institution as exemplified by the fact that michigan couldnt have clean drinking water, economic anxieties with an economy changing before their very eyes. Trump is tapping into that. Are the democrats in that group looking at Hillary Clinton as someone who has been around as part of the problem as opposed to trump who is the difference. Its just surprising you hear from so Many Democrats, you look at exit polling and see that hes getting support from not just republican primary voters. Hes getting support in a subset of a subset of a subset. What does that mean . There hasnt been one single election, one single contest pitting Hillary Clinton and donald trump together. Donald trump starts out with a 60 disapproval rating and when you get into those contests im very confident that Hillary Clinton is going to do very well. So if you were advising the Republican Party right now, youre going to they call you in. I would tell them to do exactly what theyre doing. Exactly. But we were talking off camera and mr. Ratner said they were just in and i agree with you, a loseloselose position, no matter which way they turn then suddenly you put the hearings on top of it. This is this buffoonery is at a level that i think the latest poll on the Republican Party as far as just as a brand, it is an all time i cant remember the number but its a stunning low and if youre an american and you watch this and here, by the way, obama has intelligently put a very, very, very credible candidate on the table and the fact that they wont even walk into a room is appalling, disgusting and pathetic. How low can they go at this point . Donnie, ive been asking myself that question for years about they find a way to go lower. I agree completely. Their brand is toxic. You know where i hear this . The most honest places on capitol hill, the members only elevators where members speak honestly because theres no press, you guys arent allowed in. You know what i hear from Republican House members across the country . Theyre in a dead panic. Now having donald trump at the top of their ticket hurts them and i wont say puts the house in play but it expands the battlefield,er in a dead panic. Well, donald trump stole the party from them and theyre trying to figure out how to get it back. It may be too late. But youre retiring at the end of the cycle and youve cited fundraising as one of the pieces of your job that isnt your favorite. How satisfying can it be to be in the house at the moment, not just in the minority but where the majority spends its time passing 51 bills or whatever it is to repeal obamacare, passing other stuff just designed to make a political point and when Something Like flint comes along they just grandstand and theyre not willing to do anything . Its completely unsatisfying these are the reasons i left. Ive been there for 16 years, its time to let somebody else try to job. But the fundraising regiment. The fact that when we need the post office, the only thing republicans can bring themselves to do is to name post offices, when we try to name a post office after maya angelou nine republicans voted against it because they said shes a communist. Off crisis in flint michigan, the democratic leadership sent a letter to paul ryan saying dont adjourn the congress lets stay here until we get it done. People are tired of blame. They want solutions. We have said well stay here and work until we get a solution and meanwhile two weeks were going on vacation because paul ryan wants to let members go. Dont disagree. Howard dean . First of all, thank you for your chairmanship of the dccc. Thats a very difficult job. Secondly i get asked this all the time so let me ask a retiring member who i respect a lot. How do you see the longterm way out of this . How are we going to get out of this nasty partisan do nothing approach . How do we grow out of this as a country . Feel free to speak freely since youre leaving. I will speak freely because now im liberated. [ laughter ] ill give you the solution, you have to have nonpartisan redistricting. The reason we are in this polarity is because congressional districts are drawn far to the right, far to the left. You have so many of these Tea Party Members of congress who live in fear of a primary from the right. When eric cantor lost a primary, that defined the environment. 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Yesterday boehner said we dont have a nominee who can win on the first ballot. Im for none of the above. Im for paul ryan to be our nominee. Doesnt mean paul ryan can be your go to flunky for everything. Do you know whose great at eating food in paul ryan. Paul ryan doesnt want to be the candidate because he, quote, believes the nominee should be someone who ran this year. Okay. So that narrows it down to these people. All right. Howard dean, final thoughts from you this morning on where the race stands. Oh, the race. All right. Unless you want to say Something Else. I was going to Say Something good about steve israel. Hes right. I was so amazed to hear a democrat from new york saying we ought to be nonpartisan redistricting. It will hurt the democrats in new york but help the country a lot. I think hes 100 right. I agree with that, too. Thanks so much for being on this morning. Thank you. Still ahead, more on another stopped donald trump plan hatched in another secret meeting, plus. 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Bush, nicolle wallace, we also have former treasury official and morning joe economic analyst Steve Rattner and donny is here along with willie and me. The Republican National Convention Opens in exactly four months from today. That is four months for a band of Party Regulars who remain determined to stop donald trump from gaining its nomination to enact their plan. In Downtown Washington yesterday conservative activists met privately to device that plan. They settled on calling for a unity ticket, so who it would consist of remains unclear leaving options open to a former candidate or someone who did not run. They encouraged all former and current candidates to hold their delegates on the first ballot at the convention and pledge to keep their options open as to other avenues, which could include a writein campaign in the fall. Trump recently suggested there could be riots if he is not nominated, which one of the leaders of the group, Erick Erickson alluded to in an interview and also drew rebuke from House Speaker paul ryan. In 1860 Abraham Lincoln it took him three ballots to become the republican nominee. If he can do it without riots in the street the other candidates should be able to do it as well. Nobody should say such things in my opinion because to even address or hint to violence is unacceptable. And then meanwhile politico reports that speaker ryan, paul ryan, met with conservative mega donors in florida last night. While politico sources say the meeting is not intended to be about trump, among the two dozen in attendance were new York Hedge Fund manager paul singer and chicago cubs coowner todd rikts who are investing heavily in stop trump campaigns. The report says that South Carolina governor nikki haley a vocal trump opponent is set to address the group this morning. In his press conference yesterday ryan said it is increasingly likely were headed for a contested convention and maintained that he is still neutral in the president ial battle and will never be a candidate. In the event that no person will you kn running for the republican nominee right now gets enough on the first ballot you will not put yourself forward. I thought i was pretty clear. I saw boehner last night and i told him to knock it off. I used slightly different words. I used his own words that he used to use against us when he told us to knock things off. Its not going to be me. It should be somebody running for president. Look, i made a decision over a year ago not to run for president. I really believe if you want to be president you should run for president. People are out there campaigning, theyre van cassing, theres caucuses and primaries. Thats who we should select from among for our next president s on whatever ballot were talking about. My goal is to be dispassionate and to be switzerland, to be neutral and dispassionate and to make sure that the rule of law prevails and to make sure that the delegates make their decision however the rules require them to do that. Nicolle, the press is really, really, really trying to get paul ryan to run for president. I dont know how many ways he can say it differently. This stop Trump Movement, you have a lot of money guys, a lot of smart people getting together, theyre having meetings, they want to stop trump, they have hashtags and the whole thing but at the end of the day they need a candidate. Cant just have hashtags. Is that person out there . Well, there were 17 of them. Right. Yeah. Stop Trump Movement has been robust, it has been litigated and the people didnt settle on the people that the Hashtag Movement folks wanted. They settled on you cant call majority but plurality settled on donald trump. So i may have the least in common sort of with his platform, whatever it may be, but i have the most sympathy for the case he is making. Hes the person theyre voting for and this all just reeks of the same arrogance and denial that brought them to this place. If this sort of state of denial is a cycle no one looks like theyre ready to break it. If they want to break the cycle they should get out in the country, get out of washington and understand why people are voting for him. And the reality is the more the stop Movement Trump is out there the more is feeds into his brand. The more the establishment, the elite, point out and say, no, thats not your candidate people are going so say, no, it is our candidate. Maybe the argument, steve, is let trump be trump. I talked to one he have them yesterday and i would say i dont know that theyre even clearly thinking about what the options are, i think its like writing in a candidate, they dont understand what would be involved on trying to get on ballots if they were to run a third party candidate, there is a lot of confusion and disorganization, but i think at the end of the day, one, what we know is that theres nobody except trump who could possibly get to the convention with a majority of delegates. Correct. Number two, trump is going to almost certainly be the one who gets in the most delegates, may or may not be over 1,237 i dont know if there are going to be riots, i dont encourage riots, im not sure trump does, but the idea that the convention is going to reach down to somebody who came in a distant third or reach out into nowhere when you have a guy with 45, 47, 48 of the delegates it just surreal. Stay on the riots for a second. Ive known donald a long time and i like donald personally, i disagree with a bunch of his politics but hes got to stop with the punch and the riots and its just from both from knowing him is that what you know about him. Ive never seen that. Im going to appeal to his left brain also. Its the right strategic move also. Its time to pivot. At this point even if you cant do it from your soul do it from a Strategic Point of view. Somebody is going to get killed at some point. Im still stuck a week ago, i know you guys have talked ad nauseam on the kid getting punched by the hillbilly and my stock maam hurts. It was the first time i got, you know, back and forth about trump and this and that. It made me sad, it made me frightened it viscerally affected me and donald is my friend, i just say, dude, this is where it stops. This is where you have to say, hey, im this, im this, im this, but at the end of the day im a father, im a grandfather, i love this country, i want i care. If you are a leader, if youre president ial, if you are the man, if you remember that strong, if your brand is that about strength, a strong man says, no, and i have the power to stop that from happening. You dont need it at this point. If i could add to some demographic politics. He has almost maxed out sort of the anger vote. If he wants to grow now its time to go get the moms. No mom wants to see their kid at a trump rally real writhe now. I heard from moms who were opened to him, but they would never let their kids who are totally paying attention to this cycle go to one of his rallies for fear of what might happen to them. Also on paul ryan didnt he say those exact words maybe alex can pull it for later about being speaking . Just saying. Yeah. He would be the only in theory. Its a little different now because he is the speaker, he is in charge of the convention. Im just saying. And also i wonder if a guy like that wants to waste his bullet on running for president on a spoiler race. He doesnt. Hes too young. Maybe he is not saying it in a way thats convincing immediate in the media, but he does not want to be written in on the second or third ballot. And you cant win. Willie. This is an interesting twist. Senator Lindsey Graham has made no secret that hes a fan of neither donald trump more ted cruz. He has definitely said that. He once kwipd choosing between trump and choose is between being shot or poisoned. Yesterday senator graham announced he had back ted cruz. Oh. Here is a look at how senator graham picked his poison. Would ted cruz be a more acceptable nominee to you than donald trump . No. No. Youre in trouble then, my man. When i think of problemsolving verse the first name in my mind is not ted cruz. If you kill ted cruz on the floor of the senate and the trial was in the senate, nobody could convict you. Im not really happy about where the country is right now. Our party and our country is going to have to up its game. If you nominate trump and cruz i think you get the same outcome. You know, whether its death by being shot or poisoning, does it really matter . We may be in a position where we have to rally around ted cruz is the only way to stop donald trump and im not so sure that would two work. But you would recommend that in order to stop donald trump rallying behind ted cruz. I cant believe i would say yes, but yes. I think the best alternative to donald trump to stop him from getting 1,237 is ted cruz and im going to help ted in every way i can and if i were in one of the states coming up in terms of voting and i didnt like trump id vote for cruz. That was a whole journey right there in one clip. And a ringing endorsement. Thank you so much. Clearly this is not about him liking ted cruz, this is about him trying to stop donald trump anyhow, anyway, and he thinks ted cruz has the best chance. Thats a confused tortured reality. Can i say at least hes picking somebody before. The weakness is the the weakness of what romney did is there is not a political example that you can point to where anyone achieved success by simply coming out against somebody. So at least lindsay and lindsay is a skilled truth teller in times of despair for the Republican Party, but at least he came out and was for somebody. I actually think its surprising and i think in part its because cruz went 0 for 5 tuesday night that there werent more sort of establishment endorsements for cruz or kasich for that matter. I think the only way for the party through this is to back cruz, because kasich cant get there, he cant even get near there. That would be a worse outcome in november, cruz, and there are some long that. There are some long that but i think there are a lot who think at least cruz is a true conservative and they like that part of him. You had marco rubio come out yesterday and say that ted cruz is the only true conservative left, you think maybe he will come around behind ted cruz as well. Elz has made some news this morning, we will get to that in a moment, but first the New York Times is reports on what the paper calls unusually candid marks marks by president obama. The times writes, quote, president obama privately told a group of democratic donors last friday that senator Bernie Sanders was nearing the point at which his campaign against Hillary Clinton would end and that the party must soon come together to back her. Thats a quote. All right. The president s comments were summarized for the times by three people present at the event and were later confirmed by a white house official. Then here is what White House Press secretary josh earnest had to say about the report at his briefing yesterday. President obama made a case that would be familiar to all of you which is that as democrats move through this competitive primary process we need to be mindful of the fact that our success in november in electing a democratic president will depend on the commitment and ability of the Democratic Party to come together behind our nominee. The president did not indicate or specify a preference in the race. Why was that so hard . Because i dont think he was actually completely coming to terms with what happened. He obviously did. Right. He obviously did. And, by the way, this is what people hate about washington. Just, do you know what, no comment, tell the truth, but dont do that. Thats like a very light version of why were dealing with donald trump because he is at least out there about better for hillary if bernie stays in the race keeping her sharp. Possibly. Strange way whereas if shes anointed that was the problem everybody had with her initially going in, its a coronation, whereas youre going to have this republicans in this knife fight for the next three or four months and if hillary is already sitting on her thrown the president is going to back hillary, this he have a deal, he ought to keep it closed for a while, but he hasnt. Do you agree its actually better for hillary if the battle with bernie shes going to obviously end up the nominee. By the way, only human being ever that has said i think hillary she wasnt anointed in the end. She did go through a set of primaries, some of them were tougher than others, in the end in the last week shes won all five of them. Thats my point. Why. I think in the past many nominees have become the de facto nominees by the middle of march, i think shes done that. I think her preference should be now her priority should be to go reach out to republicans, whether its cruz or trump there will be people for whom cruz is too conservative, trump is too crazy and i think it would be to her advantage to be focusing on picking up sort of center right voters not fighting with Bernie Sanders. So the president was trying to nudge people in the right direction without saying he actually nudged people in the right direction. I love washington. Its so obvious at this point. A closed door fundraiser and reporters were gone. Was left in the position of dancing around the truth which i can show you another version of that, but i think whats really happening here is that Elizabeth Warren might be trying to negotiate herself a very Good Division in whatever the Clinton Administration might look like. Senator Elizabeth Warren was asked yesterday about Hillary Clintons paid speeches on wall street. Now, you think the answer to that would be crystal clear, right . Elizabeth warren. Should hillary release the wall street speeches . Of course she should. Right . Thats what she said, rights . Its got to be. Take a look. Do you believe that senator clinton should release the transcripts of her speeches to Goldman Sachs . Look, i think that our candidates are out doing what they should do in a primary. They are debating the issues. Youre not answering my question, senator. Well, what im doing is im telling you what i think should be going on right now in this election. Its a yes or no question. Should she release the transcripts or not . What i told you is that i think that the primaries are doing exactly what they should be doing and that the candidates are being tested. Mika, you must be so depressed. Thats your girl. I think shes going to be beat. There must be something in play here. That was obviously dancing around the topic so i hope you get something good. Well, you just let josh earnest have it for dancing around the topic. I did. In a back handed way im saying she was being she was completely circumventing the question, im not sure i would have continued the interview. You guys know that im good on that. But that was no answer. There must be some negotiation under way. I hope it works out really well because we need her. Still ahead on morning joe a former republican first lady hedges on whether shed vote for donald trump, plus why trade and not illegal immigration is driving many voters this election cycle. Steve rattner is charting the economy. Later, can Democrats Use just three words to force a vote on Supreme Court nominee Merrick Garland . We will ask senator Amy Klobuchar, but first bill concerns with a check on a potentially serious storm. In the forecast world theres high confidence and average and low confidence. Right now this is bordering between an average and low confidence. Every 12 hours we get new guidance that tells us how much our computers think, again, this is a peas of the puzzle not the actual forecast. Yesterday it was looking like a blockbuster snowstorm on our european model, 6 to 12 inches from the north, then this morning it was completely different, took about half the snow away. Then we discussed this piece of the puzzle from our american model which shows no accumulating snows in the area of new england. Thats why weve gone from an average confidence to a low confidence forecast. If you dont want snow this is what the rest of you want. Right now you still have a good chance of snow areas new york city and eastern new england, especially cape cod, boston and maine sunday night. We will have to watch it. Still about 50 to 60 hours away. Weve also tracked a lot of storms this morning in florida and a couple of areas of mississippi and alabama, its clearing out but watch out later today, areas down in texas. 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Susan, im not going to answer. Dont ask that. In your book its clear that you dont think islam hates america, that you dont think all muslims should be banned from entering the United States. Is there a point where you would feel compelled to come off the sidelines to speak against well, this is what i want americans to remember, what our real values are and one of the very first things, one of the reasons we are a country is because we believed in freedom of religion. Former First Lady Laura Bush speaking out by not speaking out on donald trump saying dont ask that question. She is such a wonderful gracious she is so lovely. One issue thats really driving the vote this election cycle is trade. Exit polls showed us once again on tuesday thats the case. In ohio and North Carolina the majority of Republican Voters believe trade negatively affects u. S. Jobs, similar story on the democrats side although voters from North Carolina are more divided on whether trade creates or hurts american jobs. Steve rattner has some charts to better explain the world trade playing in this election and how Bernie Sanders and donald trump are benefiting. The polls to start from your exit poll numbers about the benefits of trade and trump on those voters is basically the bottom line, both in ohio a state that he lost as well as in North Carolina. He did extremely well among those voters and so did Bernie Sanders. So they are appealing to people who feel trade is hurting us. But lets look at both sides of trade and start with the benefits of trade because trade does help the country as a whole. I dont think most economists would disagree with that. Estimating the benefits is a little bit hard, but there are numbers around 300 to 500 billion range. Putting that into perspective that could be as much as 1,000, 2,000 for every american that theyre better off because there is trade. We have a huge number of jobs tried to trade, 20 of all jobs relate to trade, its not just in things that you might think about like manufacturing but even a lot of service jobs and things have an export component to them. Most importantly the benefit that all of us at this table and many of ours viewers see is in lower prices. Things that we dont make here very much anymore are much cheaper because they can be made less expensively elsewhere. Tvs and computers down 75 to 85 , toys down 40 , furniture down 7 . Obviously with toys and computers there is a technology element. Furniture, bedding, toys, its simply a matter of people being able to make them less expensively elsewhere and we all get the benefit in lower prices that weve paid but there are problems with trade particularly with jobs and wages. If you start with jobs you can see that over the last 15 years we have lost over 70 of our textile and apparel jobs. If you want to understand what was happening in North Carolina and South Carolina in those primary votes, you see how many textile workers dont have their jobs anymore. If you want to get an idea what was happening in michigan and ohio you can look at autos. Ohio is the second biggest auto state after michigan. Even with the auto recovery, all the good stuff thats happening with cars now we are still 30 fewer jobs than we had 15 years ago in the auto sector. And then it also affects wages. And if you take a look at this wage chart you can see that since the beginning of the recovery wages for people in the economy as a whole have risen about 2. 5 after adjusting for inflation. People in service sectors, financial services, information, education, hospitality and leisure, even these low paid service jobs in hotels and things have all seen theirs wages go up a little bit. Who has seen their wages go down . Its been people in manufacturing, down. 8 and in the Auto Industry down by a staggering 12 . So if you want to if you want to understand why people in these places, especially those working class white males that we talk about a lot, disaffected, they have a good reason to be. Well, and also isnt this everyone is so concerned about what exactly is drawing people to trump. Isnt this one very legitimate reason why trump could do well in some of those places that you mentioned . When you talk about putting up 35 tariff barriers, when you talk about forcing companies to make things in america again, all that appeals to people who basically think they lost their jobs because because of these other countries competed with us and took our jobs away. Est what the impact of that in reality, though, putting up a tariff like that and it would be totally disastrous. Here is the irony of the whole thing and maybe nicolle wont like this answer but here is the irony of the whole thing, the republicans to some degree create their own problem. The republicans for the last seven years really . We never heard that before. The republicans for the last seven years have basically blocked any kind of policy action, any kind of initiative, many of which obama has proposed that would have made the lives better for these people who are now very unhappy. So its kind of boomeranged back around. The failure is the republicans dont have any eloquent rational relatable advocates for free trade. The party is devoid of people who can talk about how trade benefits your life. Everyone can have some of those products on your because of trade. There is no advocates. If its hillary versus trump there will be no gate about the benefits of trade. I dont think you can sell the benefits of free trade when you have so many individuals in so many key straights are hurting. Its pandering to their fears. There are benefits of free trade. The Republican Party no longer has a candidate in contention who is an advocate for free trade. If you look at the exit polls for people who believe free trade has helped us john kasich wins those. My point is they are an incredible minority because there is no powerful defender of the benefits of free trade. I think the Republican Party would have been better off if we had done something over the seven 7, 10, 15 years to help these people rather than of course, it also would have been better off if there was someone able to communicate in a compelling way about the larger benefits to their lives into thats been Donald Trumps biggest hit on john kasich is he voted for nafta. Look at what happened in ohio. And hillary. John kasich has been measured but he has been saying what you want him to say, that youve got to understand there are benefits from free trade. Somebody thinks they lost their job because of it all the benefits in the world exactly. Coming up on morning joe with new reports that president obama is quietly signaling to donors he is behind Hillary Clinton our next guest wonders why does the president tell rich People Special information that he doesnt tell everyone else. Thats a good question. And why does evening its going to stay private . [alarm beeps] the intelligent, allnew audi a4 is here. Aint got time to make no apologies. Good. How was your commute . Yours . Good. Xerox real time analytics make transit systems run more smoothly. And morning chitchat. Less interesting. Transportation can work better. With xerox. Thank you for calling. Well be with you shortly. Yeah right. Xerox Predictive Analytics help companies provide a better and faster customer experience. Hello mr. Kent. Can i rebook your flight . Im here Customer Care can work better. With xerox. Wait im here mr. Kent . Whewhat does it look like . 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The American People overwhelmingly believe republicans have the responsibility to do their job. Because people get up and go to work every day and do theirs. Senate democrats with a message to their republican counterparts, do your job. When it comes to the president s pick for the Supreme Court. Joining us from capitol hill member of the Senate Judiciary Committee Democratic senator Amy Klobuchar of minnesota. She is a Hillary Clinton supporter and is also traveling with president obama to cuba next week. Great to have you on. Thank you, mika. I couldnt agree more, i think the republicans are speaking for themselves and, you know, theres no need to even criticize because its so obvious the blunder that they are making by being so difficult about this nominee. I would like to broaden the conversation, though, and ask shouldnt congress be doing its job, for example, we were talking earlier about flint, michigan. Why not stay home from recess and work on emergency legislation to solve the problem immediately instead of grandstanding . Are you Republicans Holding that back as well . Well, you know, i would be happy to stay home from recess and do that. I will say we dont control the schedule and we were very close to getting some kind of agreement on flint and i heard that it fell apart, but hopefully there will be an agreement later to do some very important funding. That is an outrageous situation out there and one that was neglected for way too long, but i think the larger question here is that you could do two things at once, mika. You can do emergency relief for flint and at the same time you can move ahead and schedule hearings which tends to involve only about 20 senators on the Judiciary Committee because that is what we have done time and time again, back to when we first started doing hearings. I maybe wasnt here in 1916, but back to 1916, every nominee has gotten a hearing unless that nominee has withdrawn and theres just no excuse for not Holding Hearings and people dont have to vote for this outstanding nominee, they dont have to decide to go that way, but they have to at least hear him out. Youve got a former prosecutor, you know, headed up the cases with the union a bomber and Oklahoma City bombing, its just no one you treat like this. Would you make the connection that this is sort of part of a long standing narrative and could even be a part of the reason why donald trump is republican front runner right now . Well, you know, i think that thats a very interesting question. I was thinking about this because in the last year the republicans have worked with president obama and certainly the democrats in congress have worked with him to get a budget passed, to get a transportation bill passed, to make some of the changes that we need for education and some bills have gotten passed, but unfortunately this highly partisan political decision to not follow the constitution, to not follow history really sets back that argument that they may have been making in a very big way and i think thats why you see twothirds of American People saying, just do your job and have the hearing. Why do you think democrats, a significant enough number to note, are supporting trump . Well, i think first of all, we have not gotten to that general election. On both sides we have had very highly contested primaries with arguments on various issues and you always want the reason we have those primaries is so that parties have candidates, but the reason you have time for debates and you have conventions is for people to really see each nominated candidate make their case. Thats how american politics has worked. We havent gotten to that point. Its not an answer. I think it is an answer. Its not an answer as to why democrats are supporting trump right now. Mika, first of all could i answer okay. I think we all know that there is a lot of anger out there and there are people that right now havent been able to figure out what to do on the democratic side and i think once if Hillary Clinton is the nominee once shes able to make that case i think youre going to see significant shift when our party has one candidate to run against. We have had, what, 10, 15 and that is much harder to make the case for democrats about what the other side stands for. Once were able to do that i think that you will see that support shifting back. All right. Senator Amy Klobuchar. Thank you very much. Lets bring in anand geared after das. Democrats are supporting donald trump, yes, there are some, but you make it as long as donald trump is saying things like islam hates americans he is going to be a very tiny bit of democrats. As long as that hate mongering is going on i was just curious. By the way, a lot of people i lot of democrats do not like Hillary Clinton, but that doesnt mean theyre going the other way. They might also support trump because he is a democrat but who knows. Anand, lets look at this in terms of the rise of trump and just how sort of significant significantly he has upset the Republican Party. Lets keep it there, i guess, if theres an argument as to whether or not democrats support him. At this point is the stop Trump Movement going anywhere . Whats really strike to go me ive just been watching the people talking about it today at one level there seems to be a lot of activity and people are meeting in this secret Hotel Ballroom and that secret Hotel Ballroom, but i actually think there is a stunning lack of stepping up among the people who claim that they are dead against him. Right. I think 91 of senators, governors and house members on the republican side have yet to endorse everybody. Thats a simple form of power that they have chosen not to use. The question is what about ceos, what about things like banks saying if you are well, there are some ceos. Theres a whole bunch of firepower that actually has not even been loaded and im curious is there any line beyond which the people who claim to be worried about him are worried enough to actually take risks. What more would he need to say or do . Right. Go ahead, chris. I think anand is wrong on this. I dont think the endorsements matter and i think if the institutional power of banks and corporations went against donald trump it would actually help him and make him stronger. I do think that there is a definite ability to stop donald trump and it would take ted cruz and john kasich uniting in a ticket early on. I believe that the secret meetings which are apparently taking place in the hopes of maybe a brokered convention and denying trump that on the first ballot, extremely dangerous, extremely bad for the party if that happens. They have to either defeat donald trump on the first ballot or basically core nate him because the party is already extremely fractured. You know, in 1964, 1976 the last time there were divisions in the Republican Party at the conventions they lost badly in the general election. This is far worse than 64 and 76. So there needs to be, i think, an understanding that trump is the nominee if he gets very close to that magic number of 1,237. That said, i still think he can be stopped. But to that point its mathematically it seems at the moment anyway very difficult for him not to get close to that 1,237 cruz would have to win 87 of the remaining delegates, kasich its mathematically impossible and the parties are shifting to winner take all or disproportionate allocation of delegates. Steve, if you look at all the polls in a head to head ted cruz beats donald trump 10 to 14 points in the most recent polls. So if john kasich were to get behind ted cruz, lets say, they did a deal and there is discussions about this apparently of a cruz kasich ticket, basically whats happening is kasichs people think that hes going to win in niece blue states, beat donald trump and ted cruz and they will go into a brokered convention and john is going to emerge as sort of the guy to bring the party together. I think hes delusional. Theyre waiting to wisconsin, the insiders are saying, theyre waiting until wisconsin. If kasich wins in wisconsin hes going to go to the end. If he loses in wisconsin, which is probably likely, thats april 5th, he might do a deal with ted cruz and then you would have them winning probably they conceivably could win every winner take all state and proportional proportionately pull in an enormous amount of votes. I want to ask you a question, if i can. Donald trump is a personal friend of yours. Yes. Is the person running for president saying these things a person you recognize as the same person as your personal friend, or is he creating a character to essentially win this election and then you have faith that maybe the person you know who is less extreme than that will be that eventual nominee or president . Are these the same people or are we dealing with two different people . Look, theres two Donald Trumps. Theres the and mika is a friend and joe, theyve soon it, too. Incredibly generous, charismatic, smart, kind hearted, and then theres sort of that other donald trump were seeing who is angry and petty and sometimes vindictive and some people dont even recognize even his friends that to the degree he is going in that direction. I was chatting recently with bernie kerik the new York City Police commissioner here on 9 11, he was telling me, look, when everyone was thinking about how to get out of the new york city right after 9 11, donald trump called and said, look, im emptying my buildings, sending out 500 to 1,000 people down to ground zero to help out as volunteers. Not only that, trump came down. There was no press conferences, no photo ops. Thats the sort of good donald trump that we all know. Ive chatted with him and said, hey, look, youve got to stop attacking all of the people that youre going to need in the general election. Or your country. Anand, i have to leave it there. Thank you both. Fascinating conversation. 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Emerging markets are stabilizing, china is offering some reassuring signals on communication and the Federal Reserve this week sounded very gloomy, which is actually a positive thing for wall street because it means that theyre going to hold off on raising interest rates. All of these factors are coming together to help markets rally. Will it continue . Well be watching oil, well be watching commodities, we will also be watching as we head into the general election which i know you guys were talking about whether there is any political risk. The market doesnt like uncertainty, we will see if we start moves on that. Sara eisen thank you. The market doesnt like uncertainty, we have a problem. Up next, drug prices have been a topic so far in the president ial campaign so who is to blame, the Drug Companies or the insurers . [burke] at farmers, weve seen almost everything, so we know how to cover almost anything. Even turkey jerks. [turkey] gobble. 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Joining us from san diego former white house adviser for Health Policy dr. Ezekiel emanuel and here on set leading spine surgeon, author dr. Dave campbell. Two big topics today. Zeke, we will start with you, drug prices, who is to blame . Yeah, there is a sort of spitting match between the Drug Companies and the insurers. The Drug Companies saying insurers are passing on a lot of the costs, the insurers say drug prices keep going up and up. The fact is over the last few years while healthcare costs have been flat drug prices have gone up much higher than inflation and the economy or healthcare prices and they do seem to be consuming an ever larger amount. I recently talked to an insurer in the United States where drug their drug costs have now exceeded everything they pay for hospital care. Thats a really, really new thats crazy. Territory where drug costs are a huge part of what we pay. Why are you coughing, donny . We see increasing needs for chronic can i see diseases. If it werent for chronic diseases there wouldnt be increasing need for healthcare costs. And as the drug prices go up and as the need for those drugs go up and we have people in the United States that really want the best of everything and doctors, which of that whole group of stakeholders from Insurance Companies to Drug Companies its really only the doctors that took the hippocratic oath. Their responsibility is to do no harm. The companys responsibility is to make a profit and sell their products. But youve got these companies in which during is the most egregious example, they are buying old drugs where the r d costs are expensed and theyre raising prices 300, 400 . Is it the government, the insurers, the hospitals . Some believe this is the way it should work. Thats inappropriate. Its the consumer being the patient who is willing to and agreeing to pay such a price. There is lots of ways to skin the same cat, steve. Lets make two points. The first is patients actually dont pay the price of the drugs. While we do complain a lot about the costs of the drugs it turns out that all the rest of us are paying for everyone. There was a recent study just for drugs related to rheumatoid art thinks and some other immunological diseases and 89 to everyones insurance premiums. So we are all paying for other people. Thats the first point. And the second point is a lot of this increase in price is driven by these socalled specialty drugs, these 100,000 a year drugs which Drug Companies have been focusing in on and are predicted over the next few years to take an ever larger part of the drug market. Now, medicare recently made a proposal that for those specialty drugs they are only going to pay a flat fee. Lots of doctors are against that, but i think thats a very good idea. They are not incentivizing doctors to prescribe those drugs, they are just saying you just make a choice, whatever that drug is, were going to pay you a flat fee so that the price of the drug doesnt influence their medical decision. Dr. Dave, quickly, four states looking at hepatitis exposure. Whats going on . Yet again a surgical tech was diverting opiate medicine for his own use and in the process may have exposed 5,000 patients who were having surgery to his malfeasance. Weve seen this before. 20 years ago in florida we had the case of Kimberly Bergalis where there was a dentist who was hiv positive, five years ago there was a surgical tech in near state. So we have a complex set of problems where patients can be exposed to bad actors in the hospital. Thats very difficult to control. I was going to say theres no way to really get around that. Zeke . Yes. If someone wants to have bad behavior and ignore the health of other people its very hard to control. I mean, 100 years ago we had a woman named tie food mary who passed tie food to everyone she worked with. There is a consistent pattern, switching jobs a lot, each person firing the individual but not reporting them and we really have to try to crack down if someone effects this malfeasance they have to report them so that thor person does not go on in other employment, other hospitals or employment venues and really affect other people. But if someone is going to be a bit psychopathic about it and not care about other people and just care about their drugs there is very little the system can do to prevent that. Its important to know in this case whether in fact anyone was infected. The risks seem very, very low but they are not zero. Its not zero. The risks are low, particularly for hiv. Its infectious nature is much lower. The good news here is that these patients were probably not exposed and i think we will see over time this bad actor, who happened to be a navy veteran, navy corps man who was addicted to drugs, the disease of drug addiction really raised its ugly head yet again. Dr. Zeke emanuel and dr. Dave campbell thank you so much. Donny and steve, thank you as well. Uls a pleasure. That does it for us this morning. If you are in austin, texas, be sure to catch joe and his band playing tonight and tomorrow at Austin City Limits. Its going to be amazing. Erika hill picks up coverage on msnbc after a quick break. Have a great weekend. People who gave me options. Kept me on track. And through it all, my retirement never got left behind. So today, im prepared for anything we may want tomorrow to be. Every someday needs a plan. Lets talk about your old 401 k today. Hey kevin. Hey, fancy seeing you here. Uh, i live right over there actually. Youve been to my place. No, i wasnt. 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