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and they should have cut in in on those riots. >> i don't disagree. but why don't we start right there and obviously we'll get to the massive tragedy in nepal in a moment but first let's start in baltimore because a lot happened there over the weekend. 25-year-old freddie gray will be laid to rest in baltimore today, but this comes as city officials and the gray family urge for calm after a tense weekend of protests, 35 people were arrested, six officers were injured in what officials are calling isolated pockets of incidents that left some businesses looted and cars vandalized. as to whether the police force contributed to the 25-year-old's death in their custody here's what the commissioner has concluded so far. >> we know he was not buckled in the wagon as he should have been. no excuses for that period. we know our police employees failed to get him medical attention in a timely manner multiple times. >> the baltimore police department has also clarified the may 1 deadline initially set for the investigation saying it may take longer. >> jonathan capehart what is going on up there? >> like i said i wasn't at the dinnerer erbut i was watching on television and following it on twitter. and a chill went through me when i saw the tweets about how the baseball players -- the baseball fans and everybody, they were told that they would not be allowed to leave after the game was over. and there was video being shown, i went to a live stream. >> i'd say that's a big story. >> that's huge. >> just to let people know we had baseball fans at camden yard, one of the best ballparks, red sox had just finished playing the orioles and they were told they could not go outside because of riots. >> because of disturbances. that lasted all of about 30 to 45 minutes. but it was enough of a concern to me that i sent out a tweet that said pray for baltimore. because having watched what happened in ferguson the likelihood of something lying that happening in baltimore was something that was of grave concern. but to be sitting at home and watching my television and watching the white house correspondents dinner it was a split screen moment that never happened but -- >> what dunk abouto you think about the decision not to go to the riots? >> i thought it was strange. something big happening in an american city and you couldn't find it anywhere. >> we'll be talking to a long time reporter from baltimore coming up. that city has been on the brink on many levels for years now with an incredibly high murder right, with incredibly deep pockets of december desperation. and this is something that they have been trying to deal with. they have lawsuits pending that would make your skin crawl. >> and what happened to freddie gray is not the first time that has happened in baltimore. >> once again, you have a video camera on when it happens and that's why everybody even knows it's happening. >> and there is a disturbing troubled relationship between the baltimore police department and many of its citizens. a huge minority population in baltimore city especially west palt more. you can see if you take the amtrak train from washington to new york when it rolls through baltimore, you are seeing a visible display out of both sides of your window of poverty, of decaying neighborhoods that have been there for decades. when camden yards was first built, they talked about fixing the city up and there have been great changes made to it but there is still are such pock can hes of december pair. but mike what do you think did the decision not to -- is there anything to talk about?pair. but mike, what do you think did the decision not to -- is there anything to talk about? >> no. you have a lock down at camden yards, 38,000 40,000 fans in the ballpark it went extra innings. you can't leave because there is trouble outside. and that's the story you cover. >> nobody at the washington hilton was aware of it. >> okay. let's move on to other news. we'll be following up on this story several times throughout our 3 hour show with different angles on to get a handle on it. to the united states stance on allowing families to negotiate with foreign hostage takers may be on the verge of a big change. abc news is reporting that a white house advisory group will recommend that loved ones should not face prosecution or jail time for talking to kidnappers or trying to pay ransoms. it comes as the obama administration faces criticism from several families of american hostages who were killed after being kidnapped including james foley and warren weinstein. despite weinstein's accidental death in a drone strike the "new york times" reports there appears to be strong support among lawmakers for the use of droughns. but john mccain is suggesting it may be time to consider taking the missions away from cia control. >> there is kind of an internal struggle going on within the administration and within the congress as to whether it should be an armed services operation, the whole shall issue of drone strikes, or should it be done by the ciap obviously i have a pie as oig bias, but it seems we should give to the department of defense because it's not the job of the intelligence agency. >> that's a difficult call given our policy. once you start making the clear line unclear, i don't know. >> what is interesting, though and i read about it in the paper yesterday, it really is the truth, john heilemann, this is a program that is very disturbing to a lot of people. and yet i've always said i'm on the losing side of the equation. you look at public policy support for the drone program, you look at the support on krill for the drone program, that program is going no where. it's getting stronger and now they're talking about exporting drone technology to other countries. >> trying to figure out a way to execute our strategic national security objectives in a way that puts fewer lives at risk is always going to be popular. and for the same reason that we don't have the draft. we want clean cost freeways to do things without putting people in harm's way. and so among the public and therefore their representatives in congress, this won't change. >> yeah, i don't think so. a couple different stories here. this is frightening. "new york times" report says that russian hackers obtained access to president obama's e-mail unidentified officials tell the paper that no classified networks were compromised, but hackers did obtain access to e-mail archives of people inside the white house with whom the president regularly communicated. they reached e-mails that the president had sent and received. while unclassified those discussions likely included sensitive conversations about scheduling policy and personnel matters. this comes on the heels of secretary of defense ash carter's admission last week that russian hackers accessed the pentagon's unclassified network. the white house acknowledged a breach in its cyber security last year only now its depths appear to be much greater than initially reported. officials maintain that the hackers failed to reach closely guarded servers for the president's blackberry. the hacking happened during a fraught period during u.s./russian relieses as the conflict in ukraine and crimea made it seem like the cold war was heating up again. the white house says it has no comment at this time. >> great news actually. we now know where tray gaudy can -- because you know if you can get promise's inside the white house, you know they have read every one of them. so maybe gaudy should go to moscow. >> programs the only benefit of a night like saturday night in washington, d.c. washington, d.c. at this white house correspondents dinner is that you see people employed by the government at fairly high levels who will talk to you in an off handed semion which the record way and you realize in listening to them -- snatched by russian cyber security people is of no surprise to these people. >> the government is being bombboarded by hackers. defense department the white house, state department. constantly. >> and not to circle back, but it's time to circle back to hg hillary clinton. if you get these servers that the federal government spent all of this money trying to protect foreign hackers from, why is your secretary of state setting up a little server in chappaqua new york? is this a national security issue. >> we have new information about that in the book clinton cache that is coming out and tax mistakes that they ared a admitting to.cache that is coming out and tax mistakes that they are admitting to. let's talk about the earthquake in nepal. death toll is still rising. now over 3600 dead 6500 injured in the worst quake since 1934. >> reporter: flying into kathmandu on a plane full of turkish aid worker, it was quickly clear that after saturday's earthquake that these pal is bracing for worse to come. in the airport arrival hall we felt an after shock, a big one, 6.7. immigration officials ran away from their stations. outside the airport, tensions turned to scuffles. people here want out before the next quake hits. can mankathmandu is poor and crowded built of brick and cement. with the after shock still coming, people here understandably don't want to spend time indoors. let along spend the night in their homes. so they're camping out on the sidewalks and parks. any bit of green space is being occupied. we met this 13-year-old on a blanket with his family. >> many people are running for their life. many houses are falling. many people are dying also. >> reporter: he thinks his family will sleep here for the next week. to the east of kathmandu on month everest, climbingers ran for their lives. violent after shocks triggered more avalanches and landslides. a british army climbing team pinned down. >> rocks crashing down around us, can't see them coming. >> reporter: a few dozen that v. been rescued, but at least 13 have died including three americans. a doctor at a base camp friedenburg who worked if google described himself as energetic engineer. and tom kaplan also from california filming a documentary. back in kathmandu, tourists are stuck, as well. this woman slept in her hotel lobly close lyly lyby close to the door. >> the lobby or even we're thinking of being in the open space right here. >> reporter: medical and military officials tell us they have no real idea you how many have died or how big of a disaster this could turn out to be. >> so the relief and rescue efforts are right now desperately on the way. i'm surehurure they are still dealing with after shocks. still ahead, we'll have a live report from baltimore of aafter protests turned violent. plus an nbc news interview with yemen's foreign minister what he says about the dual threat posed by al qaeda on one side and iranian fighters on the other. and later, the "new york times" reporter shedding light on the cia drone program, why he says there are big gaps on capitol hill. but first, billing karen with abill karins with a check on the forecast. >> we've had a threat of tornadoes each day, but they have been in open rural fields. one more day today at risk and then we'll improve things. already this morning, we've been watching some very strong thunderstorms rolling across texas. yesterday we had a report of about 19 tornadoes, we had a lot of large hail with those, too. and a lot of wind gust damage. some of that large hail was very impressive. we did see some hail reports across texas as being baseball-sized hail. notice on the radar, heading north of houston and into louisiana. if anyone will have tornadoes this afternoon, it will be new orleans through baton rouge. so your forecast today, we're still in that same weather pattern for the great lakes and northeast. chilly, nice beautiful sunny afternoon. so no complaints. temperatures in the 50s and 60s. west coast still no signs of any rain heading your way anytime soon. although we did get a little bit of snow over the weekend. finally, yesterday it was 99 degrees in ft. lauderdale. warmest temperature they have ever had in april. we'll leave with you a shot of new york city. another chilly morning, but you'll carry the jacket home. go get help, boy. go get help. go get help! right now! if you're a cat, you ignore people. it's what you do. if you want to save fifteen percent or more on car insurance you switch to geico. it's what you do. go on kitty, kitty... the new s6 hits the stores and i'm like... whoa. open the box and... 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>> come on joe. we're not going to play that. we'll get to the must reads. clinton foundation has admitted it's made mistakes over how it disclosed donors as questions swirl about a new book about former president bill clinton and 2016 presidential candidate hillary clinton, acting ceo of the foundation defended the group's charity work and commitment to transparency saying in part quote, today our donor disclosure and foreign government con contributetributor policy is stronger than ever and we're acting quick tloi recommendly to remedy mistakes. this comes as the author of "clinton cash" defends his reporting. he says the clinton's ties to a ukrainian dumb and other international deals show a clear pattern of benefit. >> the fundamental question is with this deal and with the others that we cite in the book, is it company inside defense in a pattern that we see repeated dozens of times where large clinton supporters have business before the state department, they make large payments and favorable actions are taken. i don't believe coincidences occur that frequently. my contention is that you see a series of actions that are enormously beneficial in some cases clinton reverses policies and i think this rntwarrants investigation. >> but there appears to be mixed reaction from republicans. the governor in their home state issuing a warning to his party. >> this story has three ramifications that bear looking at. awful ungodly amount of money involved in these transactions. it involves a foreign source. and then it involves high positions in government and important decisions. no evidence of a quid pro quo, republicans need to be careful not to overstate the case. but it reminds us that clintons are complicated and they're tend to make mistakes. >> i think there is a very civil case here. constitution says you can't take this stuff. we have federal laws that say you can't take this stuff. if this was any person but hillary clinton, they would be under indictment for clearly straightforward problems. my point is they took money from foreign governments while she was secretary of state that is clearly illegal. this is not about politics. it's illegal. and it's dangerous to america to have foreign governments in the habit of bribing people who happen to be the husband of the secretary of state or the next president of the united states. >> mika what do you think about that? >> look, i -- >> what do you think? you got to say what you think. >> i think that it's really questionable. >> what do you think about what newt said? >> he made a valid point and we have to ask questions. we need to get answers. >> i started thinking about -- because i read ruth markesh. it was searing and it cut through. but i started thinking after reading ruth marcus okay, so since bill clinton left the white house and he had a senator and secretary of state as a wife, they have figured out how to accumulate $150 million. >> and use it for a lot of good. >> no no no i'm talking about their personal money. they personally made $150 million off of being an ex-president and secretary of state. they cashed into the tune of $150 million. >> let me play devil's advocate. >> let me finish my point. imagine -- and this is a question not for republicans and by the way to my democratic fripd friends, it's in my best interests for republicans to win the white house for hillary clinton to win the nomination. if she wins the nomination your party will lose. so you can be an ideideologue. i say this to ropss republicans all the time. put down the whiskey and car keys. i can drive. we always make these horrible decisions every four years. get off my back sglnchs but so i'm talking to my democratic friends now. i think hillary will lose. so me telling you this actually goes against my own -- >> i don't think she'll lose. >> i don't think she'll win a general election. but there are 44 45 democratic senators right now in the u.s. senate. you've got almost 20 governors across the nation, active governors. you have a lot of great ex-governors, a lot of great ex-senators, a lot of great business leader ss as potential leaders. why choose this one person who has a great record in many areas. why doesn't anybody jump in? it's going to be tarnished by this. ask yourself this question. how much -- if chin ons could make $150 million for themselves cashing in on public service over the past 12 years, and nobody's paying them money for consulting, they're paying them to cash in saying how do i make this uranium deal work how do i make this deal in kazakhstan work, how do i make the deal in russian work. think about how much money bill clinton and hillary clinton are going to make when you have an ex-president being able to leverage an actual president sitting in the white house. i mean they turned this -- it's just vulgar what they have turned public service into. $150 million. >> i think you need to lean forward, john heilemann, jonathan capehart, and jab back. if not, i will. >> if she were selected president of the united states, i don't think -- there is no leverage there. she's the president of the united states. >> sorry, you say if she's president, you think they will stop doing this? >> i'll say it. we haven't had this situation before. this issis unprecedented. the question is have they broken the law and that we don't know at this point. it's unprecedented and that could be the one reason why nobody really knows how to put their finger on what is going on here. >> i disagree with that. >> okay, good come on. let's go. wake up, john heilemann, let's go. >> you have all these charges in the book which are beyond me i don't understand them. did dystonia give money to the foundation? that's one thing. but the wow factor is that in the last ten year former president of the united states mattered to senator and secretary of state has made over $150 million in speaking engagements. you go into chipotle and sprain to explain to the woman behind the counter. >> is there a problem with that? or is the question who can do the job and is hillary clinton the most qualify sthd. >> i don't know if either are questionable. >> it's legal. >> it's for the legal if there is a quid proceed quoe. quid pro quo. >> we'll find out. i remember howard dean was on the other day and howard said they didn't make any money personally. and then i looked further down in the article, i bet you there was a speech attached to it. sure enough later on there was a speech attached to it where he made half a million dollars from a bank that was -- >> let's just say this. former administration official this is both parties leave service and cash in. they go give a speech and get paid a lot of money. ronald reagan did. george w. bush. everybody does it. >> but spouse of a secretary of state. >> so two points. there is that. there are times when bill clinton got paid for a speech. >> but there wasn't policy attached to ronald reagan when he went to japan. they wanted a star. they didn't want a husband of a secretary of state. so that's number one. >> what's number two? >> again just trying to finish two things. i think bill could give a lot of speeches to which there are no either perception or actual potential conflict. there are a lot of other speeches in which these questions are totally legitimate and there is no doubt in my mind that some of the people who gave money to the foundation, some of the people who paid money for bill clinton to speak to them wanted to be able to have conversations with people that might eventually get back to the secretary of state. >> of course. >> i just think there are two different things going on. and there may not be a quid pro quo, but there is a lot of appearance of conflict of interest that if bill and hillary clinton wanted to try to be -- to run a disciplined life that didn't revolve around making -- >> making $150 million. >> yes. they could have avoided a lot of this. it's created a huge political prop actual and perceptive. i don't think it's all about that. >> do you as a grown adult really believe there was no quid pro quo for the millions of dollars given to bill clinton at any point? >> until i've seen evidence, i'm not going to say that there was one. i don't know that there was. >> we don't know. don't you think that our scant knowledge of the former president bill clinton our scant knowledge of him personally, he has for quid pro quos. you're giving hill money,m money, thanks very much, sure i'll call him for you, and he'll they ever call never call. >> i think that's wrong. i think if you look at the uranium deal he brings his canadian buddeddy up there money is written to the clinton foundation because helps make the deal work and then down the road a bank that is involved in the deal pays him half a million dollars to give an hour speech. i think the clintons are all about quid pro quo. clintons never forget and the clintons take notes on who helped them and who didn't. >>ing on. we'll have to continue this conversation. the "clinton cash" author peter schweitzer will be our guest tomorrow on "morning joe". up next this morning, senator john mccain says it's time to debate whether the ci achlt or the military runs the united states drone program. we'll talk to the "new york times" reporter who says the chairman of the armed services committee may find themselves in the minority. we come by almost every day to deliver your mail so if you have any packages you want to return you should just give them to us since we're going to be here anyway it's kind of a no brainer [phone rings] [man] hello,totten designs. sales department? 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>> it started as a covert program. it started as we want to do these missions inside pakistan and we'd like to not acknowledge that we're actually doing it so tailor made for the cia. everybody knows the cia runs the drone strikes. so the president has said let's move it under the pentagon so it can be a little more transparency and more accountability and public accounting for when things go wrong .but wrong. but they are working hard to keep the authority at the cia. >> matt this is john heilemann. there is some stuff about how it works with congressional approval. taking people out to langley to look at video. just tell that story a little bit on the air. >> sure. so about once a month, staffers from the intelligence committees drive out to c chltia headquarters and they're brought into a room and they get to watch the videos of the drone strikes, of the buildings blowing up and people rushing to the scene and how many bodies are being carried away. and then there is a selective amgt of amount of intelligence shared with the committee. they don't get to read the cables assessing the strike afterwards, but the cia selects some intelligence to share with the committee and says this is why we blew up this building and this is why assess we killed 15 militants and this is why it was a good strike. and that pretty much -- that is pretty of the oversight mechanism. >> so can you explain who exactly in congress is thwarting the president's plan to move the drone program from the cia to the defense department? >> the easy thing is just to say the senate intelligence committee, whether it's senator byrd now or senator feinstein before. they came up with this program it was built under their supervision. and really what happened is there is very senior very powerful people at the c chltia who have pushed hard for this ram. if you're program. and if you're the cia, it make sense. you're for theterrogateing people anymore. it doesn't put americans in harm's way. so i get it. >> matt thank you so much. coming up, president obama makes a public 34re7b8gpledge not to rest until a "washington post" reporter is freed from an iranian prison. we'll talk to the journalist's brother. ♪ ♪ ♪ jeff... hey, scott! this is no time for lollygaggin', lad. the chickweed and the dandelions are reekin' mad havoc! now's the time to send in the scotts turf builder weed and feed, man! it kills weeds while it feeds and strengthens your grass. feed your lawn. feed it! when you do business everywhere, the challenges of keeping everyone working together can quickly become the only thing you think about. that's where at&t can help. with the tools and the network you need to make working as one easier than ever. virtually anywhere. leaving you free to focus on what matters most. if your purse is starting to look more like a tissue box... you may be muddling through allergies. try zyrtec® for powerful allergy relief. and zyrtec® is different than claritin®. because it starts working faster on the first day you take it. zyrtec®. muddle no more™ . still ahead, nearly a dozen -- stop. >> jonathan is saying some things. >> throwing us off. >> that's just the way i roll. >> nearly a dozen republican hopefuls for president focus on their faith as they meet voters in iowa. we'll look at one issue that found its way into virtually every speech. and it is nepal's worst earthquake in 80 years. we'll have the latest on the frantic search for survivors as the death toll continues to rise. stories of the americans caught in the quake, as well. plus we go live to baltimore as officials there plead for calm after a tense weekend of protests over freddie fwra's death. natural gas producer... and we could soon become number one in oil. because hydraulic fracturing technology is safely recovering lots more oil and natural gas. supporting millions of new jobs. billions in tax revenue... and a new century of american energy security. the new energy superpower? 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>> a lot going on in the papers today. look at the front passenger of "new york times," obviously the tragedy in nepal. "usa today" starts out with a banner banner headline sure to cause concern, there is a race on to stop isis in america and phil griffen can be very disappointed this morning. subway series 2015 mets started strong. mets are back. 11 straight? does he take a shot before he goes up to bat? >> no he's clean. >> he's high on life now? >> yes, he is. he found jesus and home run power. >> alex is one behind willie mays and nobody cares because he cheated to get there. >> i'll tell you you who didn't take steroids willie mays. >> all natural. a big trade in texas. a guy that got this big, big trouble. >> an amazing tale of the misappropriation of money in major league sports. baseball anaheim anxiousgelangels sign josh hamilton has personal baggage. they send him back to texas. texas picks up $7 million. they think out of like $85 million left on the contract. don't know whether they will be able to play. no players exchanged. >> angels have just -- they made a couple really bad decisions. >> albert pewujols and josh hamilton. >> can we get to the news now? that was news? trying to make a decision here and chris skransjansing is joying us you in a moment. freddie gray will be laid to rest today as officials and the gray family urge for calm after a teps oig weekend of protests. 35 people were arrested and 6 officers were injured in what officials are calling isolated pockets of incidences that left some businesses looted and cars vandalized. as to whether police force contributed to the 25-year-old's death in their custody, here's what the commissioner has concluded so far. >> we know he was not buckled in the transportation wagon as he should have been. no excuses for that period. we know our police employees failed to get him medical attention in a timely manner multiple times. >> the baltimore police department has also clarified the may 1 deadly saying it may too longer take longer. >> it seems that baltimore is not ferguson baltimore has an engaged mayor,en an engaged police commissioner that got on this immediately. >> because they -- a lot of localities have learned the lessons of ferguson that government needs to be engaged from the moment something like this happens. if you remember, the mayor of ferguson, the police commissioner, even the governor, they were awol during that big moment in agency. and here you have the mayor and police commissioner both of whom are african-american who are on on that of it. but we talked about this at the top of the last hour, the relationship between the police department and the african-american community in particular is terrible. and the baltimore government has paid out i believe it's like $5 million to settle lawsuits between citizens and the police department because of excessive force in other things, other violations of baltimore citizens. that there were violent clashes saturday night is unfortunate that they weren't are more violent along the lines of ferguson i think says a lot about the people of baltimore, but also about the leadership. >> and we're showing pictures outside of camden yards, gates that lead you in and out of camden yards, people actually stuck in the ballpark after the red sox/orioles game because of unrest that was going on outside the stadium. >> saturday night they went extra innings, but they locked the ballpark down pd aashed and urged the crowd to remain calm inside the ballpark because there was unrest outside. there has been for a long time a very contentious relationship between large elements of the baltimore community, largely black and the police department. whenever you have a police department viewed as the enemy by the residents, you have a huge issue and it's been going on for quite some time. freddie gray dying in the back of that van or later as a result of what happened in that van is the not the first time this has occurred. there was an incident i think within a year when a similar thing happened and a person died or was crippled for life. one or the other i forget the facts of it, but the number of police-involved shootings in baltimore over the past decade is truly astounding. >> so let's go to baltimore right now. joining us, jane miller, lead investigateive reporter for wbal tv. jane as this story was initially unfolding, my instinct of what happened over this weekend was just a matter of time. give us a sense of the surrounding factors to this case. >> well, if you want to start at the beginning, yeah, like many cities we've had some pretty aggressive policing policies in this town for at least 15, 20 years. and there has been a lot of contention and a lot of debate and there has been effort over the past two years, this mayor has publicly over and over and over again made the statement the public hates crime, but in many communities, they hate the police more. so you have this kind of knocking heads that have been going on between police and communities, so now we have this case against that history, recent history, and against the national -- backdrop of the national debate about how should we be policing people. and how should we be particularly policing people of color in low income community. because that's where we've had the most aggressive confrontations. so all of that is in play when on april 12 freddie gray gets picked up for a really minor offense subpoenaed there offense. and there is controversy over whether they should have had him in custody at all, for more than 40 minutes, gets hauled around without a seat belt as required and apparently asking for medical attention at least twice, maybe three times. and that doesn't happen. and he gets to the western district and he's unresponsive and he dies a week later of a very severe spinal cord injury. just to add to the time line, we reported on friday that even the medical call is a problem because of the way that this got dispatched to the paramedic who was called to go to the western district to tend to freddie gray, that paramedic thought he was xhoggoing to treat a broken arm, not someone who wasn't breathing. so the pairramedics, are like woe oig, is this a serious situation. so they really stramcrambled to get what they needed in terms of extra support to get the treatment needed to at least get his pulse back. so he did have a pulse -- >> jonathan capehart has a question. >> in terms of the time line, may 1 the police commissioner had this deadline for have the investigation concluded. now -- >> no longer the case. >> that's no longer the case. why is that? what is up with these deadlines and why does he keep announcing them and then pushing them off? >> this police commissioner has tried to be kind of the new era commissioner in baltimore. everybody will give him that. but he did this before in a very high profile case when a little 3-year-old girl was shot to death in a drive-by, she was obviously not the intended target, a shooting in a neighborhood and it got a lot of attention and the community was very much up in arms about it. and that was -- had nothing to do with police-involved shooting, just a street shooting and she's the one that ended up dead. and he set this deadline by the end of the week we'll have a suspect arrested or whatever. well, that hasn't happened and that's been almost a year. so he sets this deadline like this hard and fast deadline oh, may 1st we'll turnover our investigation. well obviously this investigation is not going to be done by may 1st. so friday he did back off of that and say, well, okay we won't be done at that point. the investigation will go on. but we will turn our materials over to the state's attorney. >> there are so many questions here. the funeral set for today. jane miller, i think we'll be seeing you again tonight. thank you very much. >> unfortunately i think so. yeah. moving on to politics now the clinton foundation is admitting it made mistakes with how it disclosed donors as questions swirl about a new book about former president bill clinton and 2016 presidential candidate hillary clinton. the acting ceo of the foundation defended the group's charity work and commitment to transparency saying in part our donor disclosure and foreign government contributor policy is stronger than ever. yes, we've made mistakes. but we're acting quickly to remedy them and have taken steps to ensure they don't happen in the future. it comes as peter schweitzer author of "clinton cash," defends his reporting. he says clinton's ties to a uranium and other international deals show a clear pattern of -- and you said they even broke the law. i think that's the gray area where the clintons -- >> there was a concern about this when hillary clinton became secretary of state. another concern that the obama administration and the clintons devised and elaborate set of rules that were supposed to govern. and now it is clear on at least some occasions that those rules were thrown out the window. as to whether or not they broke the law, i'm not as clear about that. but even just by the stipulations that they had with the administration, those have been broken things were not disclosed. and as we were saying earlier, president clinton's post post-presidency has been harked by a carelessness and some degree of greed. >> so ruth marcus writes foreign donations leave hillary in a cloud. the foundation could have done the prudent thing and kept the existing restrictions in place. instead the foundations quietly freed itself from the limitations creating ethics questions that could have been avoided avoided. for example a donation last year from a canadian agency pushing the proposed keystone xl pipeline. hillary clinton whose state department was in charge of reviewing the pipeline has not expressed a position on approval. you don't have to be a conspiracy theorist to question this donation. you don't have to be a political strategist to lament that the clintonian approach to ethics seems always to err in favor of taking the check. >> and i think it was maybe al tear i can't giving a donation that went unreported when they wanted to be taken off the terror list. they write the check, they get taken off the terror list. at the same time. and then it goes unreported by the clinton foundation. is there a quid pro quo there? i don't know. that's hard to tell. but does it stink to high heaven and is this the way we want our government to look? no. >> how do you translate all that into running depends her into beating her will though. it's so complex. >> it's not really complex. you're making it a lot more complex on camera than you make it off camera. to be really honest with you. this is pretty simple stuff. so algeria is on the terror list. they want off the terror list. the state department is making the decision to do it. they write a check for what how much? how many millions do they write a check for? i don't know. but algeria writes a check. you're from boston. you know how politics works. and they write a really big check to the clinton foundation. the clinton foundation takes the check -- hold organization hold on. and then just out of nowhere, the state department then decides we'll take algeria ocht list. now, why did algeria write a big check to the clinton foundation at the time they want something from the state department? that's pretty simple for most voters. >> i'm from boston. explain to me you're running against hillary clinton to beat her will, how do you break it down to me? there. >> well, first of all, i don't think democrats care about this. they want to win. do voters care about it? >> i'm just bringing you in. it's a question of whether the voter in wisconsin in the general election cares. >> keep in mind there is a reason why hillary clinton is basically the only person in the race for the democratic nomination. >> why is that? >> democrats know hillary clinton. they know the clintons all about the clintons the baggage and everything. and they have decided since the 2008 election when she barely lost the nomination to barack obama that she is the person that they want to be their candidate baggage and all. and so they're looking at this and you know what she's still our girl she's still our candidate, she's still the one we want. and, yes, all of these questions are tough and they have to be asked and the appearance problem is really, really bad. but to your point, it's so complicated, it's easy because it fits into the narrative, but then when you dig into it it's so complicated, people most people would sit back and say -- >> hooer here is the political question. would barack obama ever put himself in this -- has he ever? no. >> this dynamic, i would dare to say that everybody else serving in the administration had to play and were forced to play by very different rules. >> and the fact is the rules that apply toers on don't apply to the clintons. >> but the political question i think to mike's point and to jonathan's point just to make it really simple how much of this is just priced into the stock for her? on both sides. the democrats, they know the clintons, the good side and bad side. republicans who hate her, they won't vote for her any way. so how many people are there in the middle in a race where she'll have a very high floor and she'll have a very low ceiling. how many of those very few votes in the middle will be moved by this is this i don't know the answer but that's the political question. >> and in the absence of a smoking gun, i don't think many people will be moved at all. unless we find out that the accusation of quid pro quo is actually true -- >> and here is a problem with that smoking gun. anytime somebody brings that up there is no smoking gun, you say, yeah because there is no server. because the server was wiped clean. and the day we found out that hillary clinton improperly had her own server in chappaqua and improperly wiped it clean, there were reporters at the united nations in real time i think of ron fournier he immediately in real time when he found out that hillary clinton destroyed her servers, he immediately said this is a problem, not because of yoga this is a problem, not because of chelsea this is a problem not because of interior decorating, this is a problem because of foreign donations. ron fournier and a lot of tough journalists knew in real time that there werismly indications to the foreign donations that came thisinto the government. will it matter to democrats? i don't think so. but i know there are a lot of people like me who admired her and said, wow, that's -- i admire jeb bush. but i think america will question whether we're going to deal with bush fatigue for eight more years and clinton fatigue for eight more years. this is not a fresh new start. this takes us all back to 1999. and i was there. it was ugly. >> i don't disagree with anything you've said. the server, the foreign money, the bush fatigue, the clinton fatigue. i just think when push comes to shove, all those issues are extraneous. about a year from now people are thinking of voting for the next president of the united states it they want to know about donations, i don't care. what are you going to do for my wife's job high jobmy job, my kid's school. >> and what else matters, do you trust this person to care more about you than care about themselves. can you trust this person. is this leader trustworthy. i do think that this counts. i do think this matters. i mean to voters. you don't think it does? >> i think you're raising really, really good questions. i did sort of like a poll amongst people that i know who are democrats, a lot of my friends, and young people my daughter is so excited about voting if her first election and they just don't care about this. they don't care. they glaze over right when i start talking about it. and my daughter i said do you care? no. >> that comes in at about 2% by the way. >> but for young people it's huge. it's big. same-sex marriage, it's big. >> generational issues. but i also think these are real questions, it's our responsibility to ask. and not to be afraid to ask them. i do see that amongst a lot of or coal reegs. i colleagues. a shutdown happens. >> i'm afraid. still ahead on "morning joe," the latest in the did devastating nepal earthquakes and after shocks as the death toll continues to soar. plus just how conflicted is president obama over the united states drone program? >> not at all. >> chris jansing is standing by for us at the white house. after the midterm elections, my advisers asked mr. president, do you have a bucket list? and i said well, i have something that rhymes with bucket list. take executive action on immigration? bucket. he says she's an undisciplined overwaterer. she claims he's a cruel underwaterer. with miracle-gro moisture control potting mix, plants only get water when they need it. fight ended. or shifted? miracle-gro. life starts here. body pain? 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went to the national defense center got a standing ovation, hugged by director clapper, but i thought it was striking again when he said we all bleed when we lose an american life and i think it this shows how for any president these are the toughest decisions that they make having said that, i think often he shows it he wears though emotions on his sleeve more than others have. but the real question is are there going to be changes. there are two investigations ongoing. you it's unlikely we'll see any kind of sweeping change in the drone program. these are precision strikes and they don't like the alternative. so they will look at ways to make it better. i know you've heard some of the calls from capitol hill to create a drone czar. they're also looking at something called the fusion center. so they know they have to figure out ways for do this better, but sweeping changes seem quite unlikely. >> and then one other you this shear, the "new york times" report about russian hackers obtaining access to the president's e-mail? what can you tell us about that? >> we first talked about this hack on nbc news back this october. but what the "new york times" is reporting is something deeper than we originally thought. these are parts of the president's e-mails that clearly they're unclassified, there has never been any question about whether anything classified was breached, but it doesn't mean there aren't sensitive communications, everything from personnel movements to diplomatic communications. so while on one hand the white house will tell you i think it's important to say that these aren't classified on the other hand they will admit this is something they're looking at every day. obviously there is a concern how safe is the classified system. part of what happens here and a i think it's just partly practice, but also as they look at this most of what the president gets in terms of classified either happens in person or on paper. and that happens in the oval office it happens in the situation room. it's for the like he's walking from his office to air force one on his blackberry and he's reading sensitive classified communications. but it's obviously a concern and something they continue to look at. >> chris jansing thank you very much. nice to see you on saturday. >> great to see you guys. you looked marvelous. >> something like that. not really according to john heilemann. thank you, chris. coming up -- >> did john attack you? >> yes. he said my dress was too casual. >> i said no such thing. you just made that up. you just made that up. >> he was really close to me talking really really really close and -- >> his breath. >> she's miking this entire story up. >> do you know what he told me about that dress? he said it wasn't age appropriate. i don't even know what that means. can you believe that? >> you've entered a world of make believe. fantasy here on the set of morning joe oig. only thing i know is that i was told she was drunk and rude and 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[bell chime] ting clashes have broken out in yemen's third largest city. >> and it comes amid minimal progress for peace talks. joining us from london keir simmons. and you say the unrest is leading to a troubling resurgence of al qaeda in the region. >> reporter: that's right. if you want a reason to worry about yemen, then it's as good as any. yemen is a mess apparently iranian backed militia have taken over large parts of the country. the saudis with other partners are bombing at that militia with the support of u.s. intelligence and some low gisity cal support. but at the same time, what isn't programs being talked about as much as the rise of jihadists. there is a video where they plant a flag in yemen. and al qaeda in yemen have taken over the fifth largest city. now, this is no al qaeda-like. this is the al qaeda that some of the "charlie hebdo" attacker claimed they were inspired by and were behind the attempted bombing of the airline. and if you go back to 2000 this is the al qaeda in yemen responsible for the attack on the uss cole killing 17 american sailors there. and i spoke to the foreign minister of yemen who is now living in saudi arabia and he accuses the u.s. of a wait and see policy on yemen. >> wait and see in this situation is very dangerous for everybody. i'm glad that we take a chance. so i really encourage or let me say ask or request the u.s. government and other governments who are concerned about al qaeda to support the saudis and the yemenis and the coalition. in order to have a quick action in order to save yemen and the yemen yemen yemenis. >> reporter: 500 people killed since that saudi bombing began. but one of the concerns at the same time has to be this rise of the jihadist groups and what that means in the future if yemen isn't got under control. >> all right. keir simmons, thank you very much. >> great interview. coming up, iran says he's a spy, the u.s. says he's a journalist doing his job. an update on the imprisoned "washington 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thank you for being on the show. we saw you there saturday night. a really moving moment when the president spoke about your brother. what do you know about how he's doing and any efforts to bring him home? >> well, right now he just was able to meet with his lawyer for the first time in nine months last week. and what i hear from her is that he really wants to get the case going. he wants to be able to present a strong defense, show that there is no evidence against him that is legitimate and i think as we've gone along we've seen more about what they're accusing him of and it becomes more ridiculous every day. >> whats has the white house told you, told your family about their efforts to get your brother home? >> we know that they have and ongoing communications with the iranians about the various 2ki69 different folks held over there, including jason. clearly president obama knew what was going on, was engaged in it and really thankful to the association for letting us be there and getting the word out more broadly here in d.c.. >> what did you tell the president? >> what i told him was that all along we've said jason hasn't done anything we wanted to make sure that his case was separate from any other negotiations or things going on. he is innocent and he should be treated as a stand alone individual and not part of some kind of package that he doesn't have any control over. he's always been a fair journalist and we want to make sure there is nothing else that is holding him back. >> and what did the president tell you? >> same thing, that it's important to them they won't stop trying to get him out. and that that's about the extent of it. >> ali, what do you know about the prison conditions that your brother is confronted with and what did you personally feel each and every day when you see on tv or read about it in the papers american officials, secretary of state meeting with the very smiling and seemingly friendly iranian foreign minister? >> well, i think that's part of politics. to your first question what i know about jason's situation there is that he's been held virtually in isolation for nine months. he currently share as cells a cell with one individual, typically he would be in public ward where he would be able to interact with more people. he's had health issues that have been ongoing and i think he's still being spoken to by interrogateors interrogators, still being encouraged to admit to something. but he's been steadfast here for nine months. he didn't commit any crimes. and he's not going to admit to something that he didn't do. >> all right. thank you so much we greatly appreciate you with us. jonathan capehart your colleague has been held for nine months, much of it isolated. obviously the "washington post" is getting these around which i love what is the newspaper doing, what can it do? >> obviously the newspaper is doing everything it can to bring jason home. but the one thing that i want viewers to remember, american viewers to remember is that jason's imprisonment should remind us of the dangers journalists put themselves into bring them the news from around the world? i think we take it for granted that we have freedom of the press here that we can go out and question public officials right on up to the president of the united states without fear of being imprisoned without fear of being thought of as a spy and thrown into jail with no legal representation and hopefully jason will get out. but we don't know when that will be. so a lot -- we have a lot of colleagues who do great things who put themselves in harm's way, who put themselves at risk and in danger as jason has just to report, just to tell the story. as the president said, to bring about a common link between our two countries just by informing each other of who we are and what we're doing. and jason was doing that. >> thank you very much jonathan, as well. still ahead, calls for calm in baltimore after vie lebtsolent protests over 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>> i'm good how are you? >> good to have you on board. >> thank you. >> how are things going? >> having a pretty good start to the year good results, doing well in the point standings, so it's been a good start to the year. >> so you were telling me that you were interested in racing cars at the age of 10? >> well that's when i started. i don't know if i was that much into it -- >> when did you get the bug? when did it hit you "i want to do this?" >> in my first year. i only started because my sister wanted to do it. and she's younger than me. she's the daredevil. i'm not a daredevil. people seem to think i'm brave but i'm not. the other night i was talking to friends and they seemed to think i was lying like "i'm sure you must be really brave, you're just being coy about it" you know? and i said -- i looked over at my boyfriend and i said "babe, would you call me brave?" and he goes "no, not at all." i didn't want to get left out when i was a kid so my sister did it i did it. and it turned into something that i was good at and i love to see improvement and lap time is an easy way to see that. so instant gratification. >> i'm looking at your standings and you're so accomplished and yet you say you're not brave. would you consider yourself a risk-taker? >> i guess i'm not afraid of change. that would probably be one of the things that i would say that i'm brave about is that i'm not afraid of change. i'm not afraid to do something new, try something new, let life take its new course. i wouldn't say in the moment i'm that brave. like, my driving style as a race car driver is methodical calculated. i build up to a certain speed as opposed to just going there. i'm not the driver that goes out and hits the wall and finds the limit. i like step there. >> i think maybe you're -- perhaps you want to back off from the word "brave" because a lot of women are like you know it's not easy for me so i must not be brave. of course it's not easy to go outside your comfort zone but you push yourself to do it. that's important to you. >> it's definitely important. it's important to my job but it's important for growth too. i don't think we can really find who we are, know who we are unless we test ourselves and see what we're made of and what we're made of is what happens in the terrible moments, not the great ones. the great ones are easy. >> the great ones are easy. the easy stuff comes easy. so you're working with aspen dental, a campaign to raise awareness. tell me about this. >> raise awareness for healthy mouths. >> because you're using your platform now, danica patrick, big star everybody knows who she is. >> it's super important to me. when i first met the folks from aspen dental in new york at their head office, it just struck me how passionate they were about helping people. so this healthy mouth movement was an idea and the other part of the idea was having a mouth mobile that was basically a dentist's office on wheels that went all around the country and gave free oral care and they gave more than a million dollars in free oral care. >> so what's next for you? what are you getting ready for? >> we're getting into the thick of our season in the sprint cup series. we've had sevenish races, i think? i lose track. we go for nine months solid, we have a couple weekends off but we pretty much go straight through so our next race is in richmond virginia. >> delving forward in this as a woman, you're still one of a few as opposed to one of many. >> sure. >> what are the biggest challenges moving ahead now being danica patrick, woman in racing? >> well i think that being around for a while helps make some things easier. but, you know always trying to get to the next level is always challenging. it's always challenging to get better earn more credibility, earn more trust and just do a better job. just be a better me, a better driver, clean it up around the edges but it's a work in progress. >> danica patrick, come back and tell us all about it. great campaign. thank you very much. >> thank you for talking to me. 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health is everything. top of the hour welcome to "morning joe," happy monday everybody. >> happy monday. how was your weekend? >> busy. don't ask me how my weekend was. >> really? >> no no don't. how was yours? lovely, right? >> i had a lovely weekend. did we all have a lovely weekend? >> fantastic. we'll have pictures of the white house correspondent's dinner coming up. >> did you have a good time. >> i haven't been to the dinner in five years. >> okay. somebody asked me how it was when i was there. it was their first one, i said well, you know, the first 10 or 11 are pretty good. >> you could be included in the torture report after going to that dinner. >> wow. >> that's kind of rough, isn't it? >> very rough. >> well, the whole weekend is just rough. and it starts on thursday now. >> i heard mika was drunk. >> jonathan capehart was here. >> she was drunk going into it, she was drunk going out of it. >> i heard many reports about mika's bad behavior. >> that's her. >> no actually they won't have any pictures of me. there's bob schieffer and madeleine albright, though. >> very good. >> i'm conflicted. we'll talk about it later. >> one thing i'm not conflicted about, while that senseless event was going on just 40 miles up the road there were race riots. >> yup. >> and every news organization decided to stay on what is affectionately called the nerd prom in washington, d.c. this gathering of the top news gatherers and they decided to stay on the news gatherers themselves talking to other news gatherers instead of actually going to where the big story of the weekend was 40 miles up the road and they should have cut in on those riots. >> i don't disagree. so why don't we start right there? obviously we're going to get to the massive tragedy in nepal in just a moment but first let's start in baltimore. a lot happened there over the weekend. 25-year-old freddie gray will be laid to rest in baltimore today but this comes as city officials and the gray family urge for calm after a tense weekend of protests. some turning violent. 35 people were arrested. six officers were injured in what officials are calling isolated pockets of incidents that left businesses looted and cars vandalized. as to whether police force contributed to the 25-year-old's death in their custody, here's ma what the commissioner has concluded so far. >> we know he was not buckled in the transportation wagon as he should have been. no excuses for that period. we know our police employees failed to get him medical attention in a tombly manner multiple times. >> the baltimore police department has also clarified the may 1 deadline initially set for the investigation saying it may take longer. >> jonathan capehart what's going on up there? >> well like i said before i wasn't at the dinner but i was watching on television but also monitoring twitter. and following it on twitter and a chill went through me when i saw the tweets about how the baseball players -- the baseball fans and everybody, they were told that they would not be allowed to leave after the game was over. and there was video being shown, i went to a live stream -- >> i would say that's a big story. >> that's huge. >> just to let people know in philadelphia we had baseball fans at chem dan yards, one of the best ballparks in america, the red sox had just finished playing the orioles and they were told they could not go outside because of riots. >> because of disturbances. but that lasted all of about 30 to 45 minutes but it was enough of a concern to me that i sent out a tweet that said "pray for baltimore." because having watched what happened in ferguson you know, the likelihood of something like that happening in baltimore was something that was of great concern. but to be sitting at home and watching my television and watching the white house correspondents dinner and then looking down at my screen and keeping up with baltimore, it was a split-screen moment that never happened. >> what are you thinking about the decision not to go to the riots. >> i thought it was strange. >> that city has been on the brink on many levels for years now with an incredibly high murder rate with incredibly deep pockets of desperation among young people and those who are disadvantaged. and this sort of clash with the police is something they have been trying to deal with. they have lawsuits pending that would make your skin crawl. >> well what happened to freddie gray is not the first time it's happened to someone in baltimore with the baltimore police department. once again, you've got a video camera on it when it happens and that's why anybody even knows it's happen and there's been a historically troubled relationship between the baltimore police department and many of its citizens. it's a huge minority population in baltimore city especially in west baltimore. you can see -- you can see, if you take the amtrak train from washington to new york. when it rolls through baltimore you are seeing a visible display out of both sides of your window of poverty, of decaying neighborhoods that have been there for decades. >> for decades. and you -- when camden yards was first built and the inner harbor was first built they talked about fixing the city up and there have been some great changes made to it but there are still such pockets of despair which you can actually see from the amtrak train coming down. mike, what do you think about the decision? is there even anything to talk about? >> there's nothing to talk about. you have a lockdown at camden yards. you have 40,000 fans inside a ball mark. it went extra innings so they lucked out but a lockdown of fans, you can't leave the ballpark because there's trouble outside. >> that's a story you cover. >> and nobody at the washington hilton was aware of it. let's move on to other news the united states' stance on allowing families to negotiate with foreign hostage takers may be on the verge of a big change. abc news is reporting a white house advisory group will recommend that loved ones should not face prosecution or jail time for talking to kidnappers or trying to pay ransoms. it comes as the obama administration faces criticism from several families of american hostages who were killed after being kidnapped including james foley and warren weinstein. despite weinstein's accidental death in a drone strike it appears to be strong support of lawmakers for the use of drone bus senate arms services committee john mccain has suggested it may be time to consider taking the missions away from cia control. >> and there is kind of an internal struggle going on within the administration and within the congress as to which -- whether it should be an arms services operation, the whole issue of drone strikes, or should it be done by the cia? obviously as chairman of the arms services committee i have some bias but it seems to me that as much as we could give responsibility and authority over to the department of defense, because that's really not the job of the intelligence agency. >> that's a difficult call given -- given our policy. once you start making it a -- making the clear line unclear, i don't know. i'm not sure i -- >> what is interesting, though and i read about it in the paper yesterday and it really is the truth, john heilemann, this is a program that's very disturbing to a lot of people and yet you look at the public support for drones -- i've always said i'm on the losing side of that equation. you look at public policy support for the drone program, you look at the support on capitol hill for the drone program. that program is going nowhere. in fact, it's getting stronger and now they're talking about exports drone technology to other countries. >> trying to figure out a way to execute our strategic national security objectives in a way that put us iffer lives at risk is always going to be popular for the system reason we don't have a draft. we want to have clean allegedly surgical cost-free ways to do things without putting people in harm's way and i think among the public and therefore among their representatives in congress this is always going to -- this is not going to change. >> i don't think so. okay we'll move on. a couple of different stories here. this is frightening. a "new york times" report says that russian hackers obtained access to president obama's e-mail. unidentified officials tell the paper that no classified networks were compromised but hackers did obtain access to e-mail archives of people inside the white house with whom the president regularly communicated. from those accounts they reached e-mails the president had sent and received. while unclassified, those discussions likely included sensitive conversations about scheduling policy and personnel matters. this comes on the heel of secretary of defense ash carter's admission last week that russian hackers accessed the pentagon's unclassified network. the white house acknowledged a breach in its cyber security last year. only now its depths appear to be much greater than initially reported. officials maintain that the hackers failed to reach closely-guarded servers for the president's blackberry. the hacking happened during a fraught period in u.s./russia relations as the conflict in ukraine and the annexation of crimea made it seem like the cold war was heating up again. the white house says it has no comment at this time. >> well great news actually. we now know where trey gowdy can send his subpoenas because you know the russians have all the e-mails from the chappaqua server if they can get barack obama's inside the white house they have every one of them so maybe gowdy should go to moscow and interview -- you know? >> one of the only benefits perhaps the only benefit of a night like saturday night in washington, d.c. at this white house correspondents' dinner is that you see people employed by the government at fairly high levels who will talk to you in an offhanded, semi off-the-record way and you realize in listening to them that the world is a far more dangerous and complex place than we find out about from reading the papers everyday. and the idea that the president's e-mails have been snatched by russian cyber security people or the chinese specifically is of no surprise to these people. >> the government is being bombarded by hackers, department the white house, state department. constantly. let's finish the block with the devastating earthquake in nepal which we'll be following and have been. a death toll is still rising at this hour. 3600 dead. 6500 people have been injured in the himalayan nation's worst quake since 1934. richard engel has this report. >> reporter: flying into kathmandu on a plane full of turkish aid workers, it was quickly clear that after saturday's massive earthquake, nepal is bracing for worse to come. in the airport arrival hall we felt an aftershock, a big one, 6.7. immigration officials ran away from their stations. outside the airport, tensions turned to scuffles. people here want out before the next quake hits. kathmandu is a poor and crowded city built of brick and cement. the nepalese are staying as far away from building as they can. people here understandably don't want to spend time indoors let alone spend the night in their homes so they're camping out on the sidewalks and in the parks, any bit of green space is being occupied. on a blanket with his family we met 13-year-old kasir casey. >> i'm feeling so nervous and bad for this earthquake. many people are running here and there for their lives. many houses are falling here and there. many people are dying also. >> reporter: kasir thinks his family will sleep here for the next week. to the east of kathmandu on mount everest climbers ran for their lives during the earthquake. violent aftershocks triggered more avalanches and landslides. a british army climbing team pinned down. >> we can hear rocks crashing down around us but unfortunately we can't see them coming. >> reporter: a few dozen have been rescued from the mountain but at least 17 have died including three americans. marisa gurawon from guj was a doctor at a base camp. dan fredinburg worked for google from california and tom taplin also from california who was filming a documentary. back in kathmandu, tourists are stuck as well. >> well, the earthquake was the first day of our stay in kathmandu. we i fariha slept in her he tell lobby close to the door. >> it's probably the lobby or we're thinking of being in the open space right here. >> nepalese and medical officials tell us they have no real idea how many have died or how big of a disaster this could turn out to be. >> so the relief and rescue efforts are right now are desperatecembersperately on the way. still ahead on "morning joe," why closing the gender gap could be the key to saving social security. how women in the workplace can help counter a trillion dollar crisis. plus as the civil war rages on some syrians are arming themselves not with weapons but cameras. >> a first-hand look at a few journal uss who are still reporting from the war zone. >> and a report over the weekend that assad may be losing his grip control of power in syria and it may just be a matter of time. we'll talk about that the do. >> let's go to bill karins for a check on the forecast. >> today is the last day of our severe weather outbreak. thankfully no tornados have hit any towns. no deaths, no injuries. let's hope it continues. we had 20 yesterday. a lot were reported just to the west and south of dallas. we had one tornado reporting this morning in east texas. thankfully that was a miss too. and now yesterday the biggest story was the hail. we had baseball and softball-sized hail coming down out of the sky. these are storm chasers that well, let's just say they ended up in the wrong spot and they should have known better. that is about a baseball that came out of the sky, chunk of ice shattered the windshield and you can see it hit the pavement too. it hit more than once. so where's the damage threat today. actually, it's starting right now. it's continued all morning long. it's a tornado watch for southern louisiana. these storms are rolling across the state of louisiana. wind gusts to 60 miles per hour. lake charles, stay inside for at least another half hour until these storms are gone. there's nothing behind it now but there will be later as we go throughout the afternoon we'll regenerate new storms for you and we have a tornado risk again this afternoon. so it's two rounds of storms for you, new orleans and baton rouge as we go throughout this morning and this afternoon. we have about 12 million people at risk of severe weather. there's also great weather out there. northeast, great lakes, ohio valley, mid-atlantic enjoy a beautiful monday. how about florida? it was 99 degrees yesterday in ft. lauderdale. warmest they've ever been in the month of april. today 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take a look at the morning papers. bloomberg. former president george w. bush has made it a point to avoid criticizing his successor but he appeared to take several swipes at obama administration over the weekend. this reportedly happened on saturday at a closed-door meeting of the republican jewish coalition at sheldon adelson's venetian hotel. an attendee says bush warned against lifting sanctions on iran. he also said a nuclear deal could do more harm than good saying "you think the middle east is chaotic now, imagine what it looks like for our grandchildren. that's how americans should view the deal." bush also criticized president obama's decision to withdraw all u.s. forces from iraq in 2011. he also reportedly suggested the president is not doing enough to defeat isis saying in part "in order to be an effective president, when you say something you have to mean it. you gotta kill 'em." wow. >> somebody had a camera phone on him there. in the birmingham news at least two people are dead and five others missing at a powerful storm capsized sailboats off the alabama coast saturday not far from my hometown in pensacola. >> my goodness. >> some of the capsized vessels were participating in a regatta contest that they have every year down in mobile bay when winds quickly increased from 15 to 50 knots, generating winds as high as 10 feet. this is like cape cod, mike. this doesn't usually happen down where we're from. the search for the missing boaters continues today. a real tragedy for, again, an event that they have over in mobile every single year. >> what is it? what is the event? >> it's a regatta. just like you have up off the cape. just a lot of sailboats going out. >> odd that they would have no like weather warning. >> yeah. >> what's odd is how quickly it came up. they obviously checked the weather but they thought they were going into 15 knot winds and suddenly it kicks up to 50. i mean 10-foot waves. it's flat down there. it's nothing like the atlantic. 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[ laughter ] which is interesting because i think dick cheney is the worst president of my lifetime. [ laughter ] >> just this week michele bachmann actually -- [ laughter ] actually predicted that i would bring about the biblical end of days. [ laughter ] now, that's a legacy. [ laughter ] that's big. i mean lincoln, washington they didn't do that. >> since i'm only a comedian i'm not going to try to tell you politicians how to do politics or whatever. that's not my job. that would be like you guys telling me what to do with my body. i mean can you even imagine? [ applause ] >> cecily strong. i loved her joke about the media and how, you know everyone say after me we're not going to talk about hillary clinton's appearance because that's not journalism." that was funny. >> i thought -- i mean the president was i thought one of his better routines. i loved him talking about how busy he was. "can you imagine how busy i am and i still have time to pray five times a day?" cecily strong i asked people what they thought about her and it's a mixed reaction but everybody thought she did well. mike, you were there. what did you think? >> i thought she did very well. difficult audience but she did very well. >> big crowd, it's so vast it's like we're being herded like a thousand sheep. they handled it well. it was fun. i have mixed feelings. >> it went too long. i'm dead serious. it needs to be two hours shorter. they need to do this while the people are eating and let the president come up while people are having their dessert. it could have been two hours shorter. that's the one thing i heard everybody say there. >> did you have fun ultimately? >> no. >> all right. okay. >> i'm not -- i don't do those things. but it was great seeing -- saw a lot of friends there. >> you did. you were doing interviews everyone was flocking to joe and -- >> no they weren't. >> i went to a couple of different parties, i guess. i don't know i don't understand how that works. i have mixed feelings about it. let's move on now. it's time for "business before the bell" with cnbc's sara eisen. sara what are we going to look at on wall street? >> reporter: apple reports after the bell, that will be the big one to watch. when it comes to apple, it's always an expectations game. hopes are already running high for a strong quarter. this last cycle of upgrades, the iphone 6 and 6 plus is selling very very well. of course everybody also wants to hear commentary from tim cook, see owe of apple, of how the watch is doing. it went on sale and orders started shipping this past weekend. not expected to move the needle in terms of earnings but the color and commentary on those new product, apple watch and apple pay by the way will be important but keep in mind this is an iphone company. it's a company that sold 74.5 million iphones in the last quarter. analysts are looking for it to sell 56.8 million for this quarter. >> do you have apple pay? >> i don't have it. i know a lot of people who use it and like it. >> so i've got -- >> i've seen you use it. >> i get apple pay whenever i go to starbucks. it's such a revolution. you open your yapapp, press pay, put it to the scanner and you're gone. when apple pay gets in more stores i think it's a game changer. >> and chipotle is back in the news, sara eisen, tell us about it. >> this is very interesting. as of today, chipotle is going gmo free. most of the crops in this country when it comes to corn and soy are genetically modified but there is this movement from consumers against it whether they understand it or not, and so chipotle has gone to great lengths to make sure its ingredients are gmo free. the fascinating thing to watch afterwards will be how many other chains follow suit and how hard that will be to adjust supply chains and how expensive it will be for big companies if they are going to have to follow in chipotle's footsteps. >> and sara i saw over the weekend pepsico is taking -- i think it's aspartame -- >> aspartame out of diet pepsi. >> big news. ingenuity. this woman is leading on this. it's amazing to watch. cnbc's sara'sen thank you so much. >> thank you. >> joining us now, the chair of elevate, a global professional women's network. sally crawcheck writes in the "washington post" that women are impacted disproportionately by the retirement savings problem in america. you call it a women's crisis as opposed to a retirement savings crisis. tell us why? >> think about the are tiermtretirement savings. we're at least a trillion dollars insolvent. walk through a nursing home. it's a women's crisis. they retire with two-thirds of the money as men, live six to eight years longer. if we have a retirement savings crisis, which we do it will disproportionately affect women which changes the lens on the potential answers for it. >> and you just before we went on the air, you were like the solution in some ways so obvious. >> well and you were on it right? if we close the gender pay gap which is after all, the law of the land we will close the retirement savings gap, the social security gap by a third. if we can fully engage women in the economy, not only do we grow gdp by 7% to 9% but we further close the retirement savings gap. >> that's incredible. at this point equal pay is the law of the land but it's not happening, mike barnicle. >> one of the elements sallie of this, is that women save less than men is that because women make less so their social security check is less? >> yes we save less than men because we make less than men. we tend to more than men move in and out of the work force for family care. the other thing, too, we keep more of our money in the bank. wall street, we might as well admit, is sort of by men for men and women do this and leave their money in the bank rather than investing in the stock market and feel the negative impact of that. >> and what do you think in terms of the candidates we're looking at. how is hillary clinton on these issues? >> well it remains to be seen what policy prescription she's going to come out with. but this is clearly the important plank for her in the past and if it can be positions, because it is as something which is helpful for the entire economy, not just for one part of it a very big part of it women, then i think it's got to be a winner. >> salli krawcheck, thank you as always. still ahead, there's perhaps no place more dangerous for journalists than syria but there are still a few reporters telling the country's story. we'll bring you their stories ahead on "morning joe." occasionally. but staying well - physically, financially, emotionally - its hard on your own. so cigna's got your back and your knees, 24/7. cigna's there to answer your questions. or when you need some coaching. in sickness and in health, cigna's there, helping you to get well and stay well. that's having a partner, who's with you all the way. cigna. appears buster's been busy. yeah, scott. i was about to use the uh. i've got a much better idea, lad! scotts ez seed uses the finest seed, fertilizer,... ...and natural mulch that holds water so you can grow grass anywhere. looking good, lad! thanks, scott. ez seed really works! so, how come haggis is so well behaved? 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[ applause ] that was president obama on saturday evening paying tribute to two american reporters killed by isis. there is perhaps, no more place dangerous than the front lines of syria's civil war. but there are still a group of journalists risking everything to tell that country's story. >> all right. this morning there are a series of setbacks for syria's government. hours ago, islamic militants say they seized control of an army base after a suicide bombing by al qaeda. al qaeda's syrian branch is now in control of a key city in northwest syria after government forces withdrew. >> mika a lot of talk out of the middle east this weekend that the idea that somehow assad is holding on to power and there's going to be a status quo is seeming to fall apart and that, in fact he may be losing his grip as we speak. it's not a big surprise because the fact is he's an ethnic minority and you've had an ethnic minority controlling the country for a very long time. just like an ethnic minority or sectarian minority controlled iraq for such a long time. i suspect it's just a matter of time before assad does leave. >> and the refugee crisis something we haven't looked at enough buff it is boiling over ten times over. millions of people. >> the crisis mike the refugee crisis in syria has caused jordan -- it's become a crisis for jordan. it's been a crisis for lebanon. it's become a crisis for all -- turkey. it's become a crisis for all the countries across the middle east. even sweden who's taken in 40,000, 50,000 syrian refugees this year. they need a stable government in that country so those refugees can return home and rebuild that country. >> but for jordan especially which is one of the anchors of the middle east. it's got at least a million refugees within its own borders and you've got two bordering countries, syria and iraq which probably will be indistinguishable as countries from what we know of them now in five years. they will not exist. >> okay up next on "morning joe," she's an internet sensation. a 16-year-old girl living in fear after moving a new house and discovering it's haunted. but then she makes kind of a story out of it that you can follow. we'll talk to the young woman behind the massive youtube sensation "the haunting of sunshine girl." she's a phenom. we'll be right back. ideas come into this world ugly and messy. they are the natural born enemy of the way things are. yes, ideas are scary and messy and fragile. but under the proper care, they become something beautiful. does all greek yogurt have to be thick? 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>> it was kind of a brain child sort of idea a little seed if you will between the three of us -- me nick haggen my producing partner and mercedes rose my mother and producing partner. i work with my mom all day everyday it's fun. >> she doesn't make you say that? >> no, i like it. >> it's great to hear someone so young saying they have a producing partner. >> and a brain child. >> it's good stuff. how did it start? what is it? >> so "the haunting of sunshine" girl is the story of sunshine me. she moves into a haunted house just after she turns 16 on accident, not on purpose, and you kind of find out that it's not just the house that it's haunted, it's a lot deeper and creepier than you ever could have imagined. >> what i love about that is that you've basically created a series, a "buffy the vampire" meets "blair witch" series outside of portland. it's very do it yourself. >> it is. and it's not your typical youtube. it's not beauty blogging or any of that kind of thing. >> fashion. >> exactly. it's a sorry line. you watch the first video, the second video will make more sense. you don't have to watch season one, two and three but it makes sense. >> and what's encouraging is that it sort of brings the digital age and books together working similar buy yotally. so many people were concerned books were gone and you're using your fame from being on youtube to actually transcend to books. >> yeah. >> when did you know you had a hit on your hands? >> i don't know. i'm not even really -- i think it's cool but i don't know. >> you still pinching yourself? >> i am. i'm regularly being like "what the heck"? >> well when you were 17 -- how old are you now? >> 20. >> when you were 17 it had 200,000 subscribers. is it a channel? >> it's a network. >> now you're at an unbelievable number. why do you think sunshine touches such a nerve and generates such a reaction i guess among young people. ? who is she? what is it about her? >> she's kind of relatable. you can watch "the hunger games" and understand jennifer lawrence is an actor but on youtube i can say whatever i want and it's not filtered and it's being being real and weird and i'm normal, in a sense, and less celebrity-like, i guess you can say. >> i love that she's celebrating books. you, paige, celebrating books, a young person because they don't read books. >> we do. that's a lie. i do i love to read. >> actual paper, turning pages? >> in fact i prefer it. i'm kind of weird that way. >> she is. >> we love her. >> this has been such a disruptive day. >> sorry. >> you have disrupted. all right "the haunting of sunshine girl" will be released on march 24. paige mckenzie, thank you very much. congratulations, don't change. >> i won't. >> you promise? 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[ laughter ] >> hey, kids. time for the favorite part of my day everyday when we talk about what we learned today. mika, what did you learn? >> we're covering a lot of different stories. what's going on in baltimore which we'll have a meeting about after the show and there will be an update on the latest from nepal throughout the day on msnbc. mike what did you learn? >> well i've learned the tragedy in nepal, we'll be on that. but i've learned that nearly half of the united states senate says "hey that sounds good to me" on the drone program, no matter what the drone program is. and what i learned today is the fact is that we continue to have a debate in this country, certainly on capitol hill on whether you're going to have the pentagon run the drone program or the cia. i think it makes a big difference. more transparent in the pentagon. that debate will continue, but right now the cia doesn't want to give it up. and you know what? i don't think the white house wants to give it up that much either. i'm not so sure anybody in washington want this is program to be transparent. >> and if it's way too early, what time is it joe? >> it's "morning joe." but stick around, "the rundown" is straight ahead. developing right now, a press conference, the u.s. coast guard is holding in alabama. >> thank you for continuing to be here. i want to reiterate that we continue to look to bring this case to closure for the affected families. that's principal. we're still looking for four individuals. a fifth individual that i talked about yesterday was found yesterday and we confirm that he was okay so we're down to four target individuals that we're looking for. my message here this morning is about the weath

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