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Plus saudi arabia admits columnist Jamal Khashoggi is dead but for many the statement amounts to a coverup instead of an explanation. First, though, early voting is under way in much of the country and starts and states like florida and texas coming up tomorrow. And that means the midterms are here. You can basically ignore the number at the bottom of your screen. The president s popularity is surging, up 47 among registered voters in the nbc news wall street journal poll. Thats higher than president obamas approval ahead of the 2010 midterms. Peoples preference for who controls congress appears to be shifting back in favor of democrats. Opening up a ninepoint advantage among likely voters. Thats in large part because of the increase in enthuse ymp weve seen. The percentage of black women, southern voters, women under 50 and Republican Base voters who say this election is more important than ones in past years have all increased by double digits since august. And it has led to shifting weather conditions for our team of political forecasters. The blue wave projected blue wave. Blue wave. This green wave. A pink wave. Some kind of a red wave. Is it a wave or tsunami . Well, in either case theres little drops of water. It could be a tsunami, a middle sized wave, a small wave. I dont think its a blue wave. A little green wave to it on money. But its more like a tornado that will touch down in spots. But i see the weather has changed in the last two weeks. That last man, congressman kevin mccarthy, probably the closest to being right at this particular moment in time. Some of the movement appears to be because of the Brett Kavanaugh confirmation fight. Some of it from the natural ramp up ahead of any big election. The simple reality is in many places, its not Just National factors at play. Democrats have seen conventional and unconventional candidates fade in some places. In other places like virginia and illinois, the candidates in their governors and senate races could impact those critical house elections, often in democrats favor. So the chess board is changing in real time, especially as both parties move money from one race to another. Of course, the president is trying to get the last word when it comes to democrats. Even if they win the house, its going to be just fighting, fight, fighting. Its going to be well be you love my hair . Thank you. She knows what to say. These people have seen me under every condition known to man. I havent heard that one in over a year. My whole life they said, is it or isnt it . Barbara walters interviewed me. Do you mind if i play with your hair . Remember that . And then numerous people have done that. But thats okay. But the choice could not be more clear. Democrats produce mobs. Republicans produce jobs. An interesting digression. With that, i want to welcome in my panel. White house bureau chief for the Washington Post and msnbc political analyst phil rucker. The host of kabc radios the drive home, john philips and moveon. Orgs kareen jeanpierre. Thank you for being near los angeles. Our first kasie dc trip on the road. Phil rucker, i want to start with you for a scene setter of the president s mood. Its been an interesting couple of days for the white house. Theyve been trying to deal with whats going on with saudi arabia and manage that relationship while at the same time the president has been hopscotching across the country. Is there a sense that the white house and the president himself feels like hes in control of this Midterm Election now or is he starting to feel antsy and some pressure to change the game . The president knows he cant control this election. He can never control an election but especially because hes not on the ballot. But hes trying to do everything he can to influence it and control it and he feels emboldened. He feels like this kavanaugh confirmation was a big political victory for him and that hes going to get out there on the trail which hes been doing almost every day and i think in the final ten days or so were going to see him doing rallies almost every night. To try to gin up his base and turn out his core supporters and influence these elections as closely as best that he can. The polling is against him, obviously. Theres predictions of democratic victories but trump is trying to just find every single trump voter throughout in places like montana and arizona and nevada where he was the past couple of days and get them out for republicans. And convince them this is a referendum on him. The Approval Rating for the president stuck out to me in our new poll. How nervous are democrats youre talking to now about how this election might turn in these final weeks . So when i see that poll, it says to me, okay, republicans are probably coming home, which would make sense as we head closer to the Midterm Elections, 16, 15 days tomorrow. And so it actually makes sense. What is worrisome, i would if i were a republican is the independents. Theyre still losing independents and women. So, yeah, this number at 47, still historically low. But there are pockets in there that i would be really concerned. But the thing that when i look at just whats happening now as you said in the beginning of the show, people are voting right now in georgia, in tennessee. Weve seen some really high levels of people coming out early voting, and weve seen some high levels of people just registering to vote. Which i think benefits democrats. Historically weve seen that. So the electorate is really kind of its different than we have ever seen it in a midterm and so thats the thing that i am curious to see, okay, what does that mean on november 6th because if thats the case, that is incredibly beneficial to democrats. And that is not beneficial to republicans. Im interested to see what impact when we look back at the polling were seeing now, how that changes. John philphilips, the path to control congress runs straight through here, this area where you live. What your seeing on the ground as you talk to people and cover the races here in california that sort of suggest to you which way these winds are blowing . I suspect whats going to happen, as we get closer to the election, people are going to come home. And so many of these congressional districts that are in play this time around are traditional republican strongholds. The Central Valley of california, orange county. And so with the president trying to nationalize this election, i think its going to increase those Republican Voters who are thinking, maybe ill sit on the fences. I dont know if you picked up on this but your president has a bit of an ego. So the fact that hes out there making this election about himself, i think helps a lot of these vulnerable republicans because if you go back do you think California Republicans are trump republicans . This seems to be a place where that didnt line up the same way it does in other places. Go back to the 2016 election and you had a very contentious moment after the Republican Convention where ted cruz refused to endorse the nominee when he gave his speech. And what did donald trump say at the press conference right after that . You have to support me. You have to get behind me because the Supreme Court. And ultimately, many of those people fell in line. The other thing you think thats true here . I think thats true here. The other issue that got a lot of nontraditional republicans is the issue of immigration and trade. With this caravan were seeing coming north to the United States, immigration and trade are back on the agenda right now. Both of those issues help him with people who traditionally dont vote for the gop. Another issue that traditionally helps is taxes. Yesterday in nevada, trump told reporters that republicans are getting ready to introduce another, quote, major tax cut ahead of the midterms this november. We are going to be putting in and are studying very deeply right now, around the clock, a major tax cut for middle income people. Not for business at all, for middle income people. Now the last was for middle income and for business and our business is now coming back because of it. But we loorking at kevin bradys working on it. Paul ryan is working. Were all working on it. And were looking at a major tax cut for middle income people who need it. What was your time frame for that . Some time around the 1st of november, maybe a little before that. Important to note congress not in session until after election day. Nbc news has reached out to the white house for more specifics and clarification on that timing. They, of course, have yet to respond. Phil rucker, this strikes me as republicans tried to message on the tax cut for corporations. They put it up in ads in special elections and found that actually it had very little impact with their voters. And this seems to be clearly a message pitch that trump had there to just reintroduce the idea of a tax cut into the political blood stream before these elections. But its not the decisive issue for a lot of voters. Were seeing as you were saying, immigration and trade being a theres a big turn being made, folks. A lot of these sanctuary cities youve been hearing about in california and other places, but california, they want to get out. They are demanding theyd be released from sanctuary cities. Nbcs Gabe Gutierrez is live in southern mexico. Gabe, what are you seeing and hearing from the people that youve been talking to over the course of the last days . Hi there, kasie. More and more migrants are starting to arrive at this park in southern mexico to spend the night. Building a makeshift tend behind me. Ambulances as well. The Mexican Government hoped to stop this caravan at its southern border but that just didnt happen. Tonight the Migrant Caravan is growing. The group fleeing violence and poverty in Central America has pushed through mexicos southern border and many mexicans are joining in as they move forward. Mariana atencio is there. This is a massive exodus of about 7,000 people and theyre making their way to tapa chula, the mofts important city here in the southern part of the country. A critical juncture for this caravan. Its where the prior caravan reorganized to move north to the United States. Translator were going to keep moving forward, this man says. Hes been professionaling for traveling for more than a week with his 2yearold daughter. They say they wont use force to stop the migrants. Patience is wearing thin. Rather than wait in this line to apply for Refugee Status in the heat, some desperate migrants have decided to cross into mexico illegally. We met this woman as she climbed onto a raft hoping to eventually reach the u. S. She doesnt believe applying for Refugee Status will work. Shes afraid to return to hon dur as. We live in a terrible situation in our country, she says. Telling us her son was beaten by the military. But others are turning around, boarding buses back to honduras. Has it been very hard . Rosa made the gutwrenching decision because of her 4monthold daughter. For her there was too much at risk. Kasie, the Mexican Government is urging these migrants to stop at local shelters and apply to stay in this country. But many of them say they plan to continue heading north towards the u. S. Tomorrow. Kasie . Nbcs Gabe Gutierrez, thanks for that report. Karine, you know, those images right ahead of the Midterm Elections play right into many of the, you know, quite frankly, fearstoking ads that republicans have been airing. Theyve been focused on immigration as what they present as a big problem in the runup to this. How potentially damaging is this . Both for the country and i want to make sure we focus on the people coming from dire straights so that but then also the politics of it. Theyre putting everything on the line to come here because of whats happening in their country. Instead of the u. S. Coming up with policies to help their economic situation, what donald trump is doing is basically using a bullhorn to push hateful rhetoric on immigration which is really sad. It goes back to what we were just talking about before about, you know, the administration, the gop, theyve been in control for two years. And this is what they want to end on. This is the Closing Argument on hate because they cant sell their tax increase for the rich. They cant sell what they did with obamacare trying to repeal and take away health care from 32 million people. Its really sad. Whats happening is donald trump is trying to stoke up this hate and really rev up his base who, really, a lot of his base came out just for him in 2016. And so now hes telling them, i need you to vote for this generic republican. Generic republicans across the country. Its really tough for him to do. Thats what hes doing, but hes also going to hurt himself with independents and women as i said earlier because theyre going to look at this, in house seats in particular, and its unfortunate this is the Closing Argument for republicans. And a lot of women and independent voters certainly when ive talked to some consulants, they say when people are thinking about immigration theyre also remembering Migrant Children separated from their families and that issue cut the other way in many cases. I do believe the kneejerk reaction is for law and order, also. When you look at those images, what you saw was lawlessness, chaos. The Mexican Government not able to control a situation. It wasnt safe for the people who are part of the caravan, nor is it safe for the Police Officers trying to enforce the law. Its not safe for some of those in those communities when you have situations like this. If you go back and look at that map in 2016 and look at the states that donald trump won that people like mitt romney lost, it was all in the rust belt and because of issues exactly like this. And if you look at the map, the u. S. Senate map where a lot of these hotly contested seats are, that issue played in the president ial race in those states and its going to play again this november. We havent even talked about the difference between the house and senate landscapes which this issue is going to cut differently there. Still to come well dig deeper into key races so you have a better understanding of whats happening across the country. Plus, health care becomes a flash point. Senator ron wyden of oregon wants to fact check some of his republican colleagues on their support for health care coverage. Well be back live from los angeles right after this. Not long ago, ronda started here. And then, more jobs began to appear. These techs in a lab. This builder in a hardhat. The welders and electricians who do all of that. The diner staffed up cause they all needed lunch. Teachers. Doctors. Jobs grew a bunch. What started with one job spread all around. Because each job in energy creates many more in this town. 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Kevin cramer voted for guaranteed coverage for preexisting conditions. Meanwhile, the Trump Justice Department has refused to defend the Affordable Care act in court issuing challenges to provisions that ban Insurance Companies from denying coverage to people with preexisting conditions. In an interview with reuters, Mitch Mcconnell called congress failure to repeal the Health Care Law his one disappointment of this congress. He also said, if we had the votes to completely start over, wed do it. But that depends on what happens in a couple weeks. President trump, meanwhile, tweeted this week, all republicans support people with preexisting conditions. And if they dont, they will after i speak to them. Joining me to discuss all of this is democratic senator ron wyden of oregon. Its good to see you. Thank you, kasie. I want to start with what we are hearing as this kind of over and over and over again message now from republican candidates that they support preexisting conditions. I think its important to point out that the policy that was built with obamacare relies on everyone having Insurance Coverage in order to essentially make the books work to provide coverage for those who are sicker than those who are well. So im wondering, what do you take away from the fact that republicans are suddenly sounding this note over and over again on the campaign trail . The republicans are just reeling on this health care issue, kasie. One other Big Development and then well touch on preexisting. The majority leader Mitch Mcconnell started a whistle stop tour this week saying that if republicans were in control in 2019, they would put on the chopping block medicare and Social Security. Their earned benefits. The reason theyre doing it is their tax bill has produced such big deficits. So the republicans are dealing with a onetwo punch. The first was preexisting conditions. They want to go back to the days when health care was for the healthy and wealthy. Thats what you have if you allow discrimination against those with preexisting conditions which the trump people are trying to do in federal court. And then incredibly, Mitch Mcconnell has said that if they are in control in 2019, theres no question, instead of trying to roll back some of the tax breaks for the folks at the top, theyll be targeting Social Security and medicare earned benefits. Im glad you raised that, senator. We have those comments from Mitch Mcconnell cued up. I want to let our viewers take a look at those. Its driven by the three big entitlement programs that are very popular. Meds care, Social Security and medicaid. Thats 70 of what we spend every year. Theres been a reluctant to tackle that because of the popularity of those programs. Hopefully well get serious about this. We havent been yet. Those comments have been seized on by many democrats, including joe manchin who has been trying to warn voters. Do you think those comments there and the effect of them is going to be enough to counteract the effect weve seen, the fallout from the kavanaugh hear,s and the increased republican enthusiasm . I do. And the reason i feel that way, kasie is that these Health Issues are so personal to people. We were talking about preexisting conditions. If millions and millions of americans from sea to shining sea go to bed realizing that the Trump Administration wants to take away protections for those with preexisting conditions, that is a very personal issue. Thats the kind of issue you vote. Same with the mcconnell comments where hes talking about how he really wants to put on the chopping block earned benefits. Those Social Security and medicare benefits are a lifeline for millions of people and Mitch Mcconnell, instead of rolling back some of the goodies for the special interest and the powerful, hes going to target the seniors. I want to talk about the future of the Democratic Party because one thing weve seen in the last couple of days is quite a few of your colleagues, certainly theyre campaigning for Midterm Election candidates but they happen to be going to states where there are competitive races but that stand to play a role come two years from now. And some have openly said theyre considering running for president in 2020. And my first question to you on this is, who do you think right now is the leader of the Democratic Party . Well, kasie, my wife kids me that i might be perhaps the only person in the senate not running for president , and i said, well, somebody ought to stick around the finance committee and work on taxes and health care and getting funding for roads. I think its fair to say that right after the 2018 election, we are going to have lots of folks in the field. And i think the American People are going to be very substantive. Weve been talking about health care. Theyre going to want to know, for example, who im not hearing a name. Pardon me . Im not hearing a name. Youll hear lots of names. And thats why i was kidding about perhaps being one of the few, if maybe the only who is not running. But i do think let me put it this way. As soon as the elections are over, well have plenty. One debate that ive heard privately in talking to many of the people who are thinking this through is how should the Democratic Party deal with the failure of 2016 and try and, you know, move ahead and actually win the presidency in 2020 . There seems to be two schools of thought. One is that you need to win offer the white male voters in the midwest who turned away from barack obama and to donald trump. But the other one says, no, actually the party needs to focus on communities of color, on young voters, people that are going to grow the party in the long term. Which strategy is the right one for your party . My sense is democrats dont win by pitting those two groups against each other. Democrats win weve been looking at your polls. Health care costs are the number one issue. Were going to come out and target, for example, the middle men who are ripping off the health care system. Were spending 3. 5 trillion on health care this year. If you divided it up among all the americans, you can send everybody every family of four a check for 40,000. So people want to see who is going to control health care costs. Not pitting those two groups that you just mentioned against each other. All right. Senator ron wyden, not a president ial candidate in 2020 but thank you. I will see you on capitol hill when you come back. You can count on it. When we return, well talk about the flux in Key Senate Races and how the president got more than one skeptical republican to warm up to him. Were back from l. A. After this. Migraine with botox®. What if you had fewer headaches and migraines a month . 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President trumps Midterm Campaign schedule is putting some complicated relationships back into the spotlight. He campaigned in nevada yesterday for republican senator dean heller who has not always been quite so supportive of the president. After the access Hollywood Tape was released during the 2016 campaign, senator heller said he was, quote, 100 against clinton and 99 against trump. Fast forward to the rally yesterday. Now, mr. President , you know a little bit about gold. In fact, i think everything you touch turns to gold. The minds here in elko and next door in Eureka County produce more coal, more gold here than anywhere else in the country. Welcome to gold country. Mr. President , thank you for making america work again. Meanwhile, the president will head to texas tomorrow to campaign for senator ted cruz. Who was one of his last rivals standing during the 2016 campaign. In fact, his last rival standing. Over the course of that campaign, senator cruz called thencandidate trump a pathological liar, a sniffling coward, a serial philanderer and utterly amoral. How do we make sense of this relationship . Listen, 2016 was an election unlike any other. It was bare knuckle and there were some hard shots. On all sides there were hard shots. That election is over. So is he your friend . Your foe . How do you describe the relationship . Hes the president. I work with the president in delivering on our promises. Okay. Joining us from washington is nbc news correspondent Leigh Ann Caldwell and our panel is here. Phil rucker, i want to start with you because ive always wondered. This president is somebody who takes loyalty seriously. And a lot of the aides and forgive me, you may remember the term theyve applied to the access hollywood period of time, but they remember who was with them and who was against them. A real litmus test moment. There are some people now where hes swallowed his pride and hes gone out to support people like dean heller who abandoned him in that moment. How much convincing did it take to get the president to that point . The president is going out to campaign with them because they want him here and theyve been suplicants while hes been president. Dean heller has been saying flattering things publicly and privately to trump to sort of win his favor to make amends. I was with them two or three months ago when trump was in las vegas for his First Campaign appearance with dean heller. It was really rather awkward. They both see a mutual beneficial relationship here where they can both benefit from it. And you see the same thing happening with ted cruz when they have their rally tomorrow in houston. John, this is a dynamic well see more and more of. Even if you look at senators up come 2020, people like Lindsay Graham and Mitch Mcconnell, they need to hug the president more than ever because the basic threat to them would be a primary that where he supported a challenger. Politics makes for strange bedfellows. Were sitting here in california where if you go back to the 1992 president ial race between bill clinton and jerry brown, the things that jerry brown said about Hillary Clinton and bill clinton in that race, some of those things you really cant go back on, but they did and now theyre one Big Happy Family again. Officially anyway. Leigh ann caldwell, the race you were just covering in tennessee with bredesen and Marsha Blackburn. Interesting dynamics there. What did you take away from that in the wake of the kavanaugh hearings . Tennessee is in play and thats a big deal for democrats. A democrat has not won the senate seat there since al gore in 1990. But what we did learn is phil bredesen, the democratic candidate was leading in the polls or close in the polls throughout the summer but the dynamics of the race seems to have changed since the battle to confirm Supreme Court nominee Brett Kavanaugh. I sat down with bredesen earlier this week in nashville. Heres what he had to say. I think whats happening is with the way in which the kavanaugh hearings proceeded and sort of how much how partisan they became and how bitter at the end, it tends to bring people back to their party. Remember, im a republican. Im a democrat. And i think thats happened all over the country and certainly has happened here and here in tennessee. Speaking of kavanaugh, you said that you would support him. You also said that you believed Christine Blasey ford more than you didnt. What does that mean and how did that translate into support of him . You know, i would look at the role of a senator as really as a check in balance on the suitability of somebody. I think as president s are entitled to appoint people of their political views and values to these offices. And the job of the senate isnt to just make sure theyre qualified for the job. I was disgusted, theres no other word, the way both parties handled this proceeding. Id love to get back to the days when a ginsburg could get 95plus votes and a scalia could get 95 plus votes. I like to look at it from the perspective of i thought this person was qualified for the job. I did think that dr. Ford was certainly believable. In the end, i didnt think the weight of the evidence was there to really say thats enough to overturn the president s choice. Just tried to act independently in that. There was no right answer in that politically. Just, you know, these things just sort your way through. How do you think about this thing and the question in my mind was, was the evidence there to really say no . And i didnt feel it was. So kasie, that kavanaugh fight reminded voters this is a national race. That the control of the senate is at stake. And even though bredesen said he would support kavanaugh if he were in the senate, he still needs those republicans in this republican state who are not comfortable with Marsha Blackburn to vote for him. But the dynamics of this race after the kavanaugh fight has changd and the race has tightened. Some polls are showing blackburn in the lead. Leigh ann caldwell, thanks for that. Still to come the Closing Arguments in the midterms are starting to feel a lot like the opening salvos of 2020. Some of democrats biggest names are traveling to sports that rhyme with schmoo hampshire. Headliners featuring california governor jerry brown. Kasie dc live from los angeles is back after this. After weeks of denials, saudi arabia finally officially acknowledged Jamal Khashoggis death. Now claiming the columnist died after a fist fight with over a dozen men. After weeks of denials, saudi arabia finally officially acknowledged Jamal Khashoggis death. Now claiming the columnist died after a fist fight with over a dozen men. President trump has long been reluctant to criticize the kingdom but in an interview with the Washington Post last night, he said, quote, obviously, theres been deception and theres been lies. Still, the president has yet to place any blame on Saudi Crown Prince mohammad bin salman who has a close relationship with jared kushner. The president saying, quote, there are two young guys. Jared doesnt know them well over anything. They are just two young people. They are the same age. They like etch other, i believe. Karine, what is the impact here . This is one of those rare circumstances where i was watching all the shows this morning and i heard tom tillus on meet the press say i agree with dick durbin on this. Everyone is condemning the saudis except the president. The furthest hes gone is what we heard there in the post. Its really disturbing to be quite honest with you. It encapsulates the Trump Presidency of the last two years which is embracing authoritarian regimes, lying, putting his financial interests ahead of the countrys. And it really is unfortunately its taking away from what our nation is supposed to be. Really fighting for human rights. And standing up with our allies as well. And it is just really disturbing every time i hear the story. It really just kind of tells you all you need to know about the Trump Administration. Phil rucker, you have new reporting on this . I talked to a number of Foreign Policy experts over the weekend who said, look, this is the president abdicating americas historic role as a beacon for morality and Foreign Policy where we make Foreign Policy decisions not solely based on a commercial selfinterest or shortterm sort of benefit for our economy which is the argument trump has been making and staying so close to the saudis, but based on a sense of morality and values that we want to promote around the world and trump is not doing that with his refusal to stand up to saudi arabia. And we know from studying donald trump over the years, nothing is more important to him than projecting strength and being seen as strong. And the danger for him in not confronting the saudis as directly as he could be is that hell be seen as weak. And that other authoritarian leaders like kim jongun would see him as weak and somebody that could be taken advantage of. Is it your sense, republican senators that i talk to all seem to be on the same page with this which is that saudi arabia needs to be punished and will Republican Voters also see the need to stand up for human rights and to not be seen as weak on the world stage . This is a strange one because everyone involved in the story is a pathological liar. Before you act on anything, i would make sure we know for 110 certainty just exactly what happened there, what the motivation was, who exactly did what. I would caution people, particularly democrats, to try to make political hay out of this at this juncture because theres so much that we dont know. I saw Julian Castro was on one of the cable shows suggesting that this was a result of jared giving a hit list to the saudis and, therefore, thats why this happened. So i would stay away from all of that. Joaquin castro did clarify that after on twitter but continue. Id be careful with this one because theres still a lot we dont know about. There are a lot of facts that are known. Jamal khashoggi went into the saudi consulate in turkey. He was killed october 2nd. That seems clear. Theres evidence that the turks have that there were 15 saudi agents who flew to istanbul who executed Jamal Khashoggi, dismembered him. Theres audio recordings. Theres a growing body of evidence. Clearly this is not all like on videotape that we can watch in a concrete way but theres enough evidence and enough intelligence that i think the administration we still dont even know where the body is, right . The body was dismembered. And we do know that at the very least the president is now saying, okay, the saudis in some way have lied about this. Theres been deception arounding this. Thank you for coming on tonight. Great to have you. Just ahead well look at a tossup california race that could be key to democrats in the house. Rouda is taking on dana. Its raise someday eyebrows to say the least. 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Its tough to explain from meeting with russian operatives, individuals who have been identified as russian spies, to taking checks from convicted felon Paul Manafort to having a code name from the kremlin. This is difficult to explain and when you talk to constituents, regardless where they are, they recognize that this has very little to do with creating jobs here in orange county, helping their families, helping their community, helping their schools and kids. There is a lot of questions to be answered. Do you get the sense that the people that you hope to represent, do they care about danas posture towards russia or is it a nonissue in the race . Depends where they are on the spectrum. Regardless, again, it shows his lack of understanding what are the real needs in the district by spending so much time on behalf of russia. I think it a really interesting thing is the interview with mueller, as well as the interview he had with the House Intelligence Committee. You know, the interview he had with the House Intelligence Committee has not been released, and were trying to figure out what dana is trying to hide. Why wont he demand why its released. We have a footnote that said he met with two russian spies and he knew they were russian spies. Your opponen accused you of saying you want to im peach President Trump and so im wondering where you stand on that. Do you think there is evidence that suggestions this president should be impeached . Dana will say anything. Ive been very specific all along that we need to make sure that mueller has the time to do the breath and depth his investigation deserves and paying off and we just look at the number of indictments that have come down. So i believe we need to wait and see that investigation come to conclusion, lets see what it says, lets go from there. Lets talk about immigration because it has been so much in the news with the caravan coming towards the border and the potential path to citizen ship for dreamers. Is that something you would support . Would you support a path to citizenship for dreamers and allowing them to sponsor parents for legal status here in the United States . I do think we need to have a path towards citizen ship for the dreamers but more important, lets go back in time to 2013, senate bill 744 passed with bipartisan support 21 that provided 46 billion for port and Border Security and pathway to citizen ship for dreamers that went to the house representatives where they never let it get to the floor to be voted on even though there was majority support. Thats the problem we got with the system and why im running. We have too many politicians that care about themselves and living off taxpayers dollars and danas case, 30 years and we need to get folks willing to reach across the aisle and put country and community first. If you had had the opportunity to vote on judge kavanaughs nomination at the Supreme Court and i fully understand youre not running for the senate so thats not a realistic possibility, however, its something that altered the landscape across the country, do you think he is qualified to be a Supreme Court nomination and do you support his being on the bench . I actually think we need to go back and reset this so that we have at least 60 senators approving these nominations and i think harry reid and Mitch Mcconnell made the mistake of reducing this down to 50. We need justices on the Supreme Court and court of appeals that represent main stream america and in the case here we have the contentiousness of this debate when that would be eliminated if we could go back to that type of a system. Since its sunday night, i also have one nfl question for you. Do you support nfl players kneeling during the anthem . Do you feel as though thats protected and understandable speech or do you think thats something that you dont think players should be engaged in . I think its protected speech, obviously. Again, we got a president of the United States who is using this issue to divide the country, instead of working as the leader of our country, the one that holds the highest office in the land, instead of trying to bring americans together, hes using that as an opportunity to pit us against each other. Lets get the work of the country done and focus on the real issues that confront us. All right. Harley rouda. Well watch the race carefully and perhaps ill see you in washington in january. Who knows. Youre always welcome here, kasie. Thank you. In the next hour, well talk to congressman brendon boil and who is in charge of democrats in welcome to tide pods talk with gronk. Im gronk these are tide pods. This is not. Even this entire bottle cant beat tide pods. To recap ugh. Tide pods. If its clean, its got to be tide. Get stronger. Get closer. Start listening today to the Worlds Largest selection of audiobooks on audible. And now, get more. For just 14. 95 a month, youll get a credit a month good for any audiobook, plus two Audible Originals exclusive titles you cant find anywhere else. If you dont like a book, you can exchange it any time, no questions asked. Automatically roll your credits over to the next month if you dont use them. With the free audible app, you can listen anytime, and anywhere. 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