Tensions between Robert Muellers investigators and the Justice Department that exploded in the public view. N nbcs reporting goes further into the substance of the heart of that dispute. An official said they described the evidence on obstruction as compelling and said it includes more information that has been made public, specifically lie believe the evidence is stronger than barr suggested. Its bad news for the president when it comes to russian interference in the 2016 election. Some on the special counsels team said the findings paint a picture of a Cambridge Analytica pain whose members were manipulated by a russian intelligence operation. Both made clear this comes from associates of the investigators and the team did not leak any information itself, but it raises the question, what is it that so troubles muellers investigators right now that they are breaking their silence. Why would a it lipped operation want this information to go public . As the Washington Post points out, some have been confiding to associates and its a sign of the level of their distress. Im joined by ken who reported that for nbc news and a federal prosecutor. Caroline frederick and from the American Constitutional Society and a correspondent from the nork time who is joins me by phone. Michael, trumps dumping all over the mueller team saying that they are terrible democrats and sneaky and all that other stuff. Did they want to get the stories out or were they talking to their associates . What do we know . These were people that were frustrated. Thats what began all of this. The interesting thing about giulianis comments is that where does the president and his lawyers have to have it . The president described the Mueller Report as beautiful and completely exonerating him. Now there are signs it may not be as good and they are shifting. The question will be does this impact whether trump will allow the report to be made public. Does it give him second thoughts . He has been insistent from the beginning and said publicly he wants it to be basketball. Now that it could be trouble for him, does it make it more difficult . The word alarming appeared in one of the reports. Whats your sense of the mega tonnage of the bad news in the report itself. The final report that we havent seen yet about the prosecute. How bad is it for him . I think from our reporting and what we wrote today, our understanding that its worse than what barr portray and he didnt put a lot of meat on the bone. He cleared the president and said that mueller couldnt come to a determination. That is the unusual thing. Mueller couldnt say yes or no about whether there was indeed obstruction. Thats a kind of a thing that broke the law or you didnt. We got a different picture of that. Our understanding is that whatever is in the report is not as favorable certainly as the president has stated. The president said that the report exonerates him. That is not what the special counsels office believes. The last question to you. You assess this all the time as a reporter. How much are these people talking to associates and we got the story through your reporting. How much of that is representing the majority opinion on the mueller team or the team that was unsatisfied by the way it got out generally . I think that there are folks that feel this way on the team. What we do know and did report today is that mueller did not go to the Justice Department and said he wanted these summaries out. He has not expressed that about the summaries and about the issue of trying to get more out when the report was initially handed in. Apparently thats where the frustrations are. They are with the fact that when barr cast the die on this and made his declaration and announced he was clearing the president , there was not a larger sense of what the investigation had found. Thats the root of the problem. Michael schmidt, great reporting as always. We will get to the substance of this. One of the substantive things is that one of the things in the report of mueller, the real report, not this fourpage job, the real thing has stuff in there about our president ial candidate in this country, not mine personally, but the who won the Electoral College was manipulated by russian intelligence. Thats strong stuff. The mueller team is not frustrated with barr saying he found no criminal experience. Thats true. Thats what he found. What they are saying is there is a lot more than that in the report that will lay out a narrative about contacts with russians and the team being that manipulated by a sophisticated russian operation where they were dupes. Donald trump was warned that the fbi was circling. Did he ignore that warning . We may find out. Its short of a criminal is experience that will concern the American People. Were announced in the beginning, the first thing was this manipulation and the sngd was obstruction. It makes it clear why Congress Needs to see this report. I think as an american citizen and voter, i would like to know what happened with our election and to see that the team was obviously really deeply concerned about the impact that the russians had on the trump team. We need to know how that happened and who was involve and what the possibility of them doing it again. This is also Counter Intelligence. Its criminal. Some of the special couples office did not want the attorney general to settle the open question whether the president obstructed justice or not. According it an official, at least one faction of the mueller team within the office said their intent was to leave the legal question open for congress and the public to examine the evidence. Its not clear how mueller himself feels about the matter. Here we are. It read to me like you guys decide. Robert mueller ran the criminal decision of the Justice Department. He knows how to make tough decisions in criminal cases the way that the attorney general puts is like he said to barr, this is too hard of a judgment for me to make. Can you do my homework for me. Thats not what mueller intended. He wanted the determination to go to congress to make the decision of whether it meets the standard of high crimes and misdemeanors. Maybe it doesnt rise to proof beyond a reasonable doubt and thats why he couldnt bring a criminal case, but he was concerned there might be evidence of impeachment. We know there is evidence of obstruction here. Can anyone tell me how he can sell the question, what did mueller want. He follows the law and turns it over to barr. He should testify. Did you want this to go to congress or this guy to put out a fourpage quickie. The only way to know is to hear from mueller himself. The report will reflect what happened. Why did mueller punt . There was division of opinion within the office. That division is . Some people thought there was a provable case and some thought there wasnt. This is a question that anybody can figure out the problem. A lot of this intent on the part of the president is pushing comey on michael flynn. Pushing for a loyalty oath and getting rid of comey. All these decisions and getting rid of sessions. All this looks like the self interest of the president and the president has a lot of power under article two. Hes president. The whole executive branch responds to him. What i have been able to figure out is mueller is going wait a minute. How can i give impeachable evidence when he has the power when he was using it for pure political purposes. The attorney general shares the extreme views about how much power the executive offices have. What about mueller . We dont know what mueller thinks about that issue. We know he compiled substantial evidence that the president obstructed justice and he was not able to exonerate. He know now from these reports that muellers associates are extremely alarmed. One thing when it was the democrats saying that the attorney general was acting more like a partisan lawyer for trump than the attorney general. His own team believes that as well. The former da of philly if you know him, the da mayor once said you have to throw the case to the jury. They have points of view not just ethnically or age differences or gender differences. Partisan differences. People think differently looking at them from different directions. Mueller was maybe saying what you were saying. Through the congress of the united states. Leave it to the jury. According to the Washington Post, the special counsels team drafted their own summaries for different section sections of the report that they assumed would be made public. They could have been released immediately. It was done in a way that minimum redactions, if any, were necessary. It would have spoken for itself. Did not release any of those summaries. They report that the Justice Department determined that the summaries contained Sensitive Information that must remain confidential. Reacting to the news, a spokesperson cited disclaimers in muellers report saying every page of the confidential report provided to attorney general barr was marked may contain material protected under the law and could not be publicly released. All day long, we show commercials for pharmaceuticals. Included in them are incredible warnings about side effects. That doesnt mean dont sell the pills. Great analogy. Thats a common warning to have on a document. It doesnt mean every page had grand jury information on it. They wrote it in a way they could be made public, we are told. From what we understand, there is very little grand jury evidence in that part of the report anyway. Its unclear what would be a problem. How do we know about the clintons and ken starr investigation . He went to the court and asked if he could have an exception so that the grand jury material can be released. Thats what special prosecutors do and up to mr. Barr. He is acting more like a partisan advocate for trump than the attorney general of the united states. Following up, what about the fact that he said we have disclaimers paid for by the dnc and something. How come they are doing that unless they are intending not to release the report . Strub is the word he is useding. Unless its about a third party, it doesnt come in. He could scrub so much that a 400 page report is almost like his fourpage summary. So much news tonight. Last night we heard there is disgruntlement at least with the mueller team. That skimpy little fourpage report or letter from attorney general barr. Today we found out it was having to do with Counter Intelligence matters and they were manipul e manipulating the Trump Campaign and there was a big case to be made by obstruction of justice on this president. All that is concealed by what barr did. The Counter Intelligence was a central part of the russia probe. However at least one top intelligence official and the person in charge, the fbi director has not even read the report. Heres chris wray. Have you had occasion to read the Mueller Report . I have not. Thats quite a conversation there. If this was conducted to gain information for Counter Intelligence purposes to find out what they were up to in this country, maybe they should look at the chinese, too. They are. Why did they go to the fbi director . Its misleading. He has been briefed by what was found in the Counter Intelligence aspect and i wish they asked him that question, but the Mueller Report is held to a small group of people. He will read it eventually. I want to know if he said can i see the report, would they say no . How about the cia director . Even think if that was the reason to create the documents to give them to the pros so they would know what to do to be careful of the russians. The criminal stuff is surp vise ed by mueller. There is no independent investigator for that. The person who makes the call is the president of the united states. There being a situation in which the president himself would be questioned on the issue of his loyalty to the country. Wow. Sticking with us to tell us what happens next. Where is this leading tomorrow and the next day this week. Is william barr more interested in the rule of law . Good question. Or protecting his boss, donald trump. Thats tension for you. What about President Trumps taxes . The president said he is not inclined to release his returns. Its not up to him. What if the fight goes to the Supreme Court . I want to know how they are going to vote. Whats going on in mar a lago . People are paying for access to the president and they were able to get into trumps resort. 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Awesome. Xfinity, the future of awesome. Welcome back to hardball. The bombshell reports between tension of mueller investigators and william barr have increased for them to come clean with the full un redacted report which he said he is not willing to do. Democrats are more resolute of pursuing the full report. The Mueller Report will be released. Its a question of its inevitable and to them its inconceivable. We are seeking the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth. It is our intention to have the Mueller Report made public completely. I think this cat and mouse game being played by the white house is pretty transparent. We will go to the court if necessary and issue subpoena fist necessary. To make sure that we do have access to the grand jury color. Democrats are a step closer to their goal after the House Judiciary Committee granted jerry nadler the power to subpoena the Mueller Report. Nadler responded to the allegation that barr with held his own summaries from the public instead of releasing his own interpretation. The letter he writes, you provided interpretation of the special counsels conclusion in a fashion that appears to minimize the implications of the report as to the president. Releasing the summaries without delay would begin to allow the American People to judge the facts for themselves. Thats jerry nadler. He is scheduled to deliver testimony next week before the house a proppropriations commit. What is known is that barrs reputation as an attorney and professional is on the line. Paul butler and caroline frederickson. We know bill barr. He has been around a long time and fits into the washington establishment and hes an attorney. As an attorney and a member of that selfimpressed, shouldnt he try not to look like a toady . Par would think. His own ideas about executive power. He would not want to charge the president with obstruction of justice because based on his extreme ideas he doesnt think when the president does things that are part of his responsibility that that could be considered obstruction of justice, including firing the fbi director. These are far outside the mainstream. Extremist views shared by President Trump and the right wing judges he is appointing. Most legal scholars dont agree. He was not asked to judge this. He was just there to convey it. How does he justify saying im stepping in the middle here . Whatever charges. Or june 2017, President Trump reached out to ask him to be the defense attorney in the russia investigation. Barr turned that down, but he assumed that same duty now that she attorney general. He was hired by the president because trump fired sessions because session famously wouldnt protect him from the russia investigation. He got what trump hired and barr has not disappointed. I think about this all the time. Whatever we think of trump, he will be gone. In six years at least. We have a twoterm limit. So far. The people wouldnt be around to watch it later to show up at the Chevy Chase Country Club or be seen on the street. They have reputations to hold. They will be here after trump. I have to say i find it perplexing. Picking occupy what paul was talking about, this man auditioned for the job. He wrote that 19page memo that said the president basically cannot obstruct justice by definition. He called the attorney general the president s lawyer. Thats nixon talk. Absolutely. Thats how he described the attorney generals position. I am who i am . Who is going to comment . Its biblical. Here got the iran people pardoned and white washed the iran gate in bush one and hes back. The idea that he is some kind of d. C. Establishment type ignores that history of his extreme views. He looks like such a mandarin. The classic washington guy. The big desk who protects the boss. He came under criticism for how little he shared in that four pager of his. According to officials familiar with the thinking, they limited the details because they were worried about waiting in political territory. His advisers expressed concern that they included derocderogat information about mr. Trump. Its all going to happen. He toifs tuesday and will release the report by the week after. Midapril. Here may have been concerned about releasing derogatory information, but its going to be released and its remarkable that he agreed to make this decision on obstruction, having written the memo you described instead of pushing it back to mueller. Thats the big mystery. Why did he punt on that and hopefully we will find out and we will get signals saying they do want to make this public. There is a demand even among republicans that the public needs to see the investigation they paid millions of dollars for and they need answers. The public probably wont get to see the full report and barr will decide how much the public gets to see. He is out to scrub it until there is almost no more. Where he acts like a washington lawyer, time is on his side. If this goes to court and its a debate between the court case and the congress and barr about how much gets to be seen, barr is going to win that. Its going to take a long time. Even if its a joke and we see at the top of the new york times, a big blacked out page with two words left on it, if its that much of a joke, will the public accept that . Of course they wont. Barr has done the president a huge favor by shaping that cursecurs cursory legal conclusion that the president is ab solved. By the way, the president is hanging on those words like a life preserver. Hes in the ocean with all the waves. He is holding on to that and barr said you are clear. Hes not letting go of that. There is a doj rule that the president cant be indicted. We also have this interest in releasing this information. There is also a rule thaw are not supposed to release information about somebody who is not indicted. Those two rules work in opposite. This makes the president above the law. We have to have that information out in the public. You followup. Is your thought, heres my way of saying it. Remember catch t22 . A period under these guidelines cannot be plrosecute and dont put out dirt unless you are going to prosecute. If you cant put out the dirt, you cant do nothing. Why was there a Mueller Report . Exactly. The whole point. The good news is thats not a catch 22 of the constitution, but the Justice Department employee handbook. In the interest of justice, that can easily be overcome by mueller and barr releasing the entire report so that congress can fulfill the responsibility of oversight and checks and balances. We have a president who is acting like a des pot. In the end we have our democracy and the elected officials have to do this. They should look at it. We can all agree and keep thinking and digging. Thank you, ken and paul and caroline frederickson. House democrats are flecking their newfound investigation muscles and his taxes and use of authority. They are all going to court. How is the administration responding to this aggressive oversight. With transparency and accountability, guess again. D accountability, guess again. Who see things others cant. Theyre the ones who see a city that can make those who live in it feel a little safer. Who see cars that can talk to each other and share their best shortcuts. Who see the efficient shape and design of the oceans wonders as the future of aerodynamics. Why . Because they can see the Infinite Possibilities of the power of data flowing through our world. At Dell Technologies we see it too. 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The chairman Elijah Cummings said he would subpoena an beinging firm tied to the president for 10 years of financial records and the ways and means sent a letter requesting six years of trumps personal and business taxes and asked whether such return is or was under any examination or audit. Thats an open question. Richard neal of the ways and means was asked what comes next if the administration fails to comply. Were intend to do followup in a 10day president prescribed in the letter in the overture we made. Then i think a series of other options Going Forward that we will explore. We have already begun to think about. You considering subpoenas . Thats something we have to consider down the road, but i dont want to at this stage answer those questions. President trump was asked about the request for the ways and means request. For the irs not to disclose. Speak to my learn lawyers and they will speak to the attorney general. They will speak to my lawyers and speak to the attorney general. Jimmy gomez of california serves in the house ways and means and the Oversight Committees. The director of the american oversight. Congressman, where does it stand right now . The law is so clear. The 1924 law said your committee, ways and means and the irs has the responsibility. You shall provide the tax returns. Whats the complication . There is no complication. If they followed the law, they would turn over the tax returns. Its very, very clear. In the history of congress, not one request has been denied. If there is a denial to the ways and Means Committee chairman, that mean that is the white house probably got involved. Either Steve Mnuchin and the white house or someone told them not to do it. The law doesnt say the President Shall provide the irs returns. The irs shall do it. Correct. Its very clear. One of the things we learned about this administration, especially Steve Mnuchin and wilbur ross and anyone associated, i question them all. They all toties . They delay, dodge, and lie for the president to protect. The battle over taxes will almost certainly wind up in court. According to two officials, he told white house advisers he does not plan to hand over his taxes and hope to stall it until after the 2020 election. I dont think trump wants to you see his tax returns and i mean in the worst way. For him to hide like this for all these years, there is something really nasty in there. It seems that way, but the president seems to have a pension for acting guilty. Its not the president who is turning them over. Its the irs. He doesnt have the control. At the end of the day, its the people and the career Civil Servants and the people who have to answer to history. The congress will have to decide whether they want to go down standing in the way of congresss oversight rule for this president or stand up for the constitution. I dont know if you can answer this, but its not a question of he said she said or anything, but a question about the law. Its not that they want the documents, but they have a right to them. People think there is not much precedent and its so clearly written that its never been challenged. Just recently with the investigation with committees on both sides, they received reams of protected taxpayer information. This is used all the time. The president wants a standard that no other american gets. Let me go to you about the court. We have a 54 republican Supreme Court. It is supposed to be nonpartisan, but yeah. All these fights whether its getting the Mueller Report un redacted to who they are giving clearances to like ivanka and jared and tax returns all comes down to if it goes to the courts this year by the end of the year, do you trust the Supreme Court to give us a nonpartisan response . I hope they do, but our job as a coequal branch of government is to ask the question and follow the questions to where they may lead. We are being responsible stewards of this branch of government to check the white house. I think if we ask the right questions, we will get the right answers. The people are very different. He said nobody cares. Whats your response . Everybody cares. Poll after poll shows that people care about what this white house does. They cared since he started running for president and he didnt release his tax returns which he lied that he was under audit. The American People want him to be held accountable. If not, we wouldnt have taken back the house. People on this show care. People do want these tax returns. People think he has something to hide and the most important thing is not just that Congress Asked the questions, but the courts do. This administration loses all the time. Cowerings make you articulate your arguments and they lose. Even this Supreme Court will look to history. Do you think muellers got him . Muellers got him . I think the mueller team knows a lot about the trump organizations finances and talk about another thing Congress Needs to see and has the right to get. How is this going to end . You are on ways and means, President Trump just said an irs audit was preventing the release of his tax returns. Lets watch. While we are working on that. I have big returns and everything all approved and very beautiful and we will be working on that. You dont learn much from tax returns. I would love to give them, but i cant do it until i am done with the audit. You dont release your returns when the audit is complete. When the audit is complete, ill do it. As for the former fixer, Michael Cohen was asked about the refusal to release his tax returns. Can you give us insight into what the real reason is that the president has refused to release his tax returns . Statements that he said to me that what he didnt want was to have an entire group of think tanks that are tax experts run through his tax return and start ripping it to pieces and then he will end up in an audit and ultimately have taxable consequences and penalties and so on. Could you presume from that statement he was not not under audit. I presume he is not under audit. Another catch 22. I cant release my tax returns because that will put me under audit and by the way, im under audit. He speaks from both sides of his mouth. What was brilliant is cohen was kind of riffing and admitting he let out information that he was never under audit. 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He likes to refer to his Palm Beach Club as the winter white house. As the Washington Post points out, president s used to vacation in seclusion and screening was relatively simple. He uses it as a retreat and money making resort added vast new complications. That was evident this weekend when the Chinese National was arrested for trying to enter the club with a thumb drive conta containing malicious software. Heres what the president said when he was asked if the chinese may be trying to spy on him. Im not concerned at all. We have very good control. Its Getting Better and cyber, frankly what we are doing with cyber is a story in itself. I think that was just a fluke situation. The miami herald is reporting that federal authorities are investigating chinese intelligence targeting President Donald Trump and his private Palm Beach Club. The probe was turbo charged after this weekends incident. 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She said she was an investor and consultant for a private equity firm who amassed considerably wealth. She said she owns a 1. 3 million house in china and drives a bmw. A federal prosecutor said jang posed an extreme risk of flight if released from custody. The Investigative Reporter from the miami herald. Thank you fwoeth. Thank you for this. What about the woman who showed up and first of all said she couldnt speak english and it was not clear what her mission was. Was she a tourist or a spy. What do we know . She is apparently a very sophisticated person. The judge actually remarked at this initial appearance on monday that the questions she was asking were incredibly well reasoned for a defendant. She was speaking through a mandarin interpreter and its unclear to what degree she speaks english, but as you said, she is wealthy and appears to be intelligent and tried to get into mar a lago. Why . We still dont know. She had electronic equipment. Was she up to no good . Was that a lead for the investigators and police in. Investigators are treating this as a potential case of espionage. They described the thumb wear she had as malicious mal wear and noted she had four cell phones, a laptop, external hard drive. Its a lot of equipment for a trip to use the pool as she said to have claimed she was there for. Everything but a swimsuit. Which is strange. Apparently she was not telling the truth. Attention has been focussed on the mal wear, but the Washington Post said she may be connect to a group of people who used mar a lago who were used to pedal information. She was there to see her chinese friend, charles and attend a friendship event, her words. A similar event with u. S. Politicians and run by a man named dr. Charles. He has become a central figure in the chinese effort to get close to trump and influential republicans. Jang could have thought he had a ticket to an event at the club. It seems that we have a weird place. Like casa blanca between here and there where you can go in and get through security because you are spending moan and get access to the president and overhear him at dinner and he comes in and you may not speak english, but she came in and you can get to trump here. Its an unusual situation. We all forget how incredible it is that the president still attends and runs a private club where people this is not a big experience. People who are every day paying hundreds of thousands of dollars for the price of admission and fees and tickets to annual events. It is very clear. This could be connected to this scheme we know about where Chinese Business people are paying money for access to the club and every member of mar ah lago has the ability to do that. They get tickets to the events like new years eve where people can pay to mingle not just with the president , but his advisers and family members and people who have influence with him. Does the president know about this mr. Charles . Thats not clear. We know he thinks this is a fluke, but whats really interesting is that the herald reported that there has been should investigation going on for at least several months, looking at possible chinese espionage operations in south florida. This incident has put that investigation into overdrive, but this is something that the feds down here have been concerned about for a while. The problem with the word fluke is, if it was just this weekend, the white house for years someone flies a plane and lands on the south lawn. These things happen rveths b, b pattern of someone selling access. He has chinese and mandarin and selling to people who have the money, like her, come on over and i will get you in the door. We heard and have been reporting that people at mar a lago noticed that there were more Chinese Nationals and people who didnt speak much english were around the president and we have been write being the concerns with security access to mar a lago and cautions that members of the white house staff took to try to figure out who was around him and who was trying to sell what loony idea to the president. Scanning lists of a tendttendee who was trying to sit next to the president to keep an ear and an eye and say what did you talk to him about and keep an ear on all of this. This is a situation that people have been warning about. This is not at all surprising. It seems for years, minority people and poor people who dont have power in the establishment use money to get access to power. You overstep the pact fact that you dont have enough people. These Chinese People are not out to protect themselves. They seem like they are aggressive and they want to get stuff to help beat us in the world economically. Many of the people coming to visit the president are Business People and looking for a competitive advantage in which in this case is being able to say i met the president of the united states. Heres the proof. I got a photo s. Its surely not true. They can take it back to their home country and its worth remembering that everything we are talking about, none of it would have come out if robert kraft had not been changed for soliciting profit cushion in palm beach county. That led to the uncovering of this entire potential chinese influence and espionage operation. Its quite head spinning. Amazing how things stick thank you. Both of you. Up next, how will we em bar us for from the truth . For from the truth with instant confirmation. I got it what . What . L. A. Bookers book apartments and vacation homes as easy as hotels. Ridin scooter l. A. Baby l. A. 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President trump and his toties can speak about fake news and unfair partisanship, but the only facts we get from the stonewall of white house flackery is carried by Public Servants who are not sit quietly and journalists who will carry their truth into the grace of public light. Thats hardball for now. All in with chris hayes starts right now. Tonight on all in release the Mueller Report as soon as possible. A torant of complains from the mueller team. The Mueller Report was great. Against the attorney general. Barr is an agent of the president. He was put there for papurpose. The latest issues. Barr did not come in with clean hands. Renewed urgency to release the report. I want the report out publicly. Then the National Security nightmare of mar a lago. Many great leaders request to come to mar a lago and palm beach. They like it. I like
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