bowe bergdahl's release in the capitol's business center last night. an unusual setting. what was it like in the room? did you get a sense, senator king, that you had learned something new last night about the circumstances of the president's decision? >> yeah, chris, i've been a to a lot of these briefings. last night was one of the most informative. i went in with a lot of questions and many of them were answered. i think probably the most dramatic moment in the briefing was when they played the 30-second video of bowe bergdahl last winter in captivity. he looked awful, sounded awful. it was pretty dramatic. when that video went off, there was sort of a stunned silence in the room. i think they ought to declassify that video. i think it would be very informative to people to see it. now, nobody is going to be able to diagnose whether he was sick or malnourished. but he wasn't in very good shape. i think that was an important part. the other question was why not? why this deal? it was an hour and a half, two-hour briefing. and we had a lot of those questions. but the fundamental principle is we bring our soldiers home. were they going to kill him? not just malnutrition, but i'm getting reports that they were told last night that he risked being killed if the word got out, even about the deal itself. >> that's what we were told. i can't reveal the sources, chris. that's classified. but i specifically asked after the statement was made, can we make this public? and the answer was yes. he was at risk of being killed if the negotiations had leaked oit. >> the polling is showing that the people do have a different attitude about this deal based upon what they think of his service record and his status of bergdahl when he left his post there. most politicians, however, office holder says no, that's not the issue. i think you just made that point. the issue is do we bring back all our guys? whatever kind of service record they have. is that your position, we bring the guy home period? >> one thing we fight for is rule of law and due process. this guy is entitled to due process. he hasn't had any hearing yet and that's what's important. get him back here, get him well and we'll deal with what he did or didn't do. he'll be dealt with accordingly. >> if he was really in danger of dying or danger of being killed because the work leaked out. where's the argument? i'm not thrilled with this deal, but it comes down to it, you sort of have to suck it up and take it and you make the best deal that you can like all grown-ups do in life. what's more to be talked about here? >> listen, i'm in an institution here that's a lot better second guessing than it is actually doing things. there's a lot of second guessing to be done around here. but, you know, i think you have it right. there are questions. was it a good deal. but, you know, we don't know all the circumstances the president was facing. what the options were, what the counteroffer and offers were. this is something, you know, this is a tough decision that the president had to make and he brought the guy home. >> i agree with you. i respect you as a smart, fair guy. why is this such a -- why is this such a pissy partisan thing? why do we have people all going to -- to me it's been a difficult issue. i don't find any partisanship in my heart in this. i'm trying to figure the darn thing out. why is all the democrats sort of going along with it quietly and all the republicans generally going against it? why is it a partisan issue? >> i'm so tired of it. everything is a partisan issue. if president obama got up tomorrow morning and walked across the potomac river people around here would say look, he can't swim. you know, it's a reflex. and i think it's wearing people out. and it doesn't contribute. my view is, let's get the facts, let's take a deep breath, let's try to find out what happened and noouf from there. there are reasons to have differences but, you know, let's not be jumping all over these things and turning everything -- everything now, chris, has turned into a partisan issue. and i think it's a real shame. because it cheapens the discourse. >> i think if lindsay graham saw him walking across the potomac river he would want to bring in an exorcist. he would say he's possessed by the devil. the press conference today in real world in belgium and brussels, president obama was emphatic he did the right thing in securing sergeant bergdahl's release. here's the president doubling down. >> we do not believe anybody wearing the american uniform behind. we had a prisoner of war whose health had deteriorated. and we were deeply concerned about it. we saw an opportunity and we seized it. i make no apologies on that. >> is this a command decision that only one person can make when it really comes down to it. you can have susan rice and everybody floating around and all kinds of politicians with attitude, but in the end, doesn't the president have to make the call? and he made it. >> he does have to make the call. he made it. we can talk about whether it's a good call or a bad call, but he had to make it. chris, i think a way to think about this, what if it were reversed and bowe bergdahl was found beheaded on the street of kabul. the people complaining now would say why didn't he do more to get this guy back? this is a very tough decision. we can talk about it. but the bottom line is you bring our people back, then you deal with the due process issues of whether or not he was a good soldier. and was it a good deal, do you have to release those five guys? we don't know what other terms he was offering. >> thank you so much. we have some early polling, by the way on the bergdahl prisoner swap. 35% of americans say they approve the deal. 39%, that's very close, obviously. but when you get further into the details of the deal, the numbers die verge. a whopping 83 2% say a government has a responsibility to bring home a soldier lost and captured by the enemy. but whether they should rescue a soldier that left his post, 59% said they do not have that duty. the paradox is that although the public finds a big distinction, what his status was, the public officials you talk to said no, there's a principle at stake here. >> and as i read those numbers, the public supports that view, basically. their default setting is bring everybody home. >> why do they have that discrepancy there? >> well, that's because politically, when you get past the basic principle, i think there will continue to be a discussion about the deal itself. about the details of the deal. another number we didn't show here, chris, shows 1/3 of the american people say they still don't know enough about the deal to make a decision. >> initially it's breaking down along partisan lines. democrats generally support the president, republicans generally support the critics. >> what more information do you want? people play this game, i don't know enough information to the point of ad nauseam. i don't know nuch about climate change. do some reading, damn it. on this one, what more -- if you have a principle, and i'm one of the most difficult people to convince on there and i'm getting there, if you have to bring the guy home and you're facing his death. suppose his head had showed up in kabul, you would have had all kinds of reactions, what more do you need to know? you want three, they want five. they want 21. they give you five. we want to give them five dangerous people? no, we want the most dangerous five guys. what do you do? do you have any choice? as a principle, you want him out. >> well, i think the president clearly believes, and i think he's got some solid reason to believe so, that by doubling down on the basic principle we don't leave people in the battlefield, it's a core american value. he's on very strong groound. the question about whether there will be political consequences later down the road still matter based on details we don't know. you don't know what those five taliban guys are going to do. >> if one shows up in the news reports. >> you don't know whether the qatarans are going to keep them. you don't know the story on bergdahl. those are the arguments about whether the president is entitled to make that call and whether as a basic matter of moral justice he did make the right call. i think most of the american people would say yes, he did. >> it was a levelheaded decision. one republic member of congress is going after his gop colleagues for criticizing the deal. he's a very right wing guy but he's from idaho. as my old boss used to say, all politics is local and bowe bergdahl is from idaho. >> obviously nobody wants to see these people released, but at the same time, we are winding down the conflict in afghanistan. and i'm a little bit disturbed by some of the republicans out there who say this has never happened before. that is not entirely true. if you look historically at the end of any conflict, you have a swap of prisoners. >> so there you have a u.s. congressman defending his district, which includes the bergdahl family and putting the focus -- i think that's what he's saying, look, my interest is depending the interest of that family. pure and simple. >> we are built differently from any other country. we're built from the individual out from the family out, from the localities out. at least we like to think so. that's what america stands for. that's what makes us different. and so the president is tapping into that by committing his decision to get this guy out, to honor the individual, and that's what labrador is tapping into. and the fact that he's a conservative republican but he's from town. he's from that area right next door. it just shows you how americans tend to think. they tend to disregard the national interest first and go to the family interests first. >> they think entirely on partisan lines, except for this fella. except for this guy. anyway, thank you. very widely stated. by the way, the big story behind the prisoner deal. was the president planning to release those afghan prisoners anyway somewhere down the road. was this just a chance to get something for it? also, she's got the name, the money, the endorsements, of course, the policy chops, everything a candidate needs to be nominated for president. what could stop hillary's clinton. and don't try to figure this one out. what were those three allies of the tea party doing in mississippi in that county courthouse where the primary ballots were being kept at 3:45 in the morning? well, they weren't playing tiddly winks. finally, let me finish to night with my big thoughts on hillary. she's a lot more than likable enough. i can tell you. after iowa and new hampshire, the third state in line in the presidential nominating process is south carolina. and it's often a make or break state for a lot of candidates in both parties. who's looking strong with a year and a half to go? on the democratic side, no surprise, hillary clinton leads joe biden by 38 points. clinton 50, biden 12 on the republican side, it's jeb bush with an early lead. this is surprising. jeb's got 22%, more than double chris christie, rand paul and ted cruz. marco rubio and bobby jindhal round out the field at the bottom. to make the boulevards, the avenues, the concrete chaos and congestion we call civilization easier to navigate we made the all new jeep cherokee. with blind spot monitoring, forward collision and lane departure warning. because even a restless mind needs peace of mind. well-qualified lessees get a low mileage lease on the 2014 jeep cherokee sport front wheel drive for $199 a month. welcome back to "hardball." what do we do with guantanamo bay? president obama has been saying for six years he's committed to shutting it down. a goal which he reiterated when he spoke to students a the west point military academy at west point just last week. >> what makes us exceptional is not our ability to flout international norm and the rule of law, it's our willingness to affirm them through our actions. and that's why i will continue to push to close gitmo because american values and legal traditions do not permit the indefinite intention of people beyond our borders. >> but the republicans are promising allout political war if he tries to empty gitmo especially in light of the fallout in the deal that released five prisoners from gitmo. lindsey graham is warning he could face impeachment>> it's going to be impossible for them to get prisoners out of gitmo now without a huge backlash. there will be people on our side calling for his impeachment if he did that. there would be people on their side feeling the political ramifications of emptying a jail full of hard and vicious killers. the politics would make it devastating for the democratic party. >> emptying a jail full of hardened killers thanks for coming back on the show. this is one of those stark divides i see. and i personally find it difficult to deal with this issue. what do we do with people we know are our enemies, clearly committed their lives to killing us in jihad, yet we don't have a case we can take to the criminal court and put them away for life. what do we do with them? what's your view? >> well, i've supported guantanamo all along. i think it's wrong when the president says this violates our values. he may have a different opinion, but somehow that's criticizing us before the world for something i think is entirely legal. i've been to guantanamo. it's probably better than most prisons but any army and training camp in this country. skills they're taught, art classes. one medical personnel for every three detainees. so it's not an ideal situation, but the fact is these people, many of them, are hardened killers. i mean, the president's own advisers, his own experts have said some of these people are too dangerous to release. so again, as long as they are in humanitarian conditions, i don't see any alternative at this stage. now, if the war with criticism winds down, fine. but we found -- i don't have the numbers in front of me now, but a large percentage, 25% to 30% of the people that are released go back on the battlefield. and the most hardened ones are still in there. >> i keep hearing from people who are lawyers and people who are civil liberties people who know the law who keep kel teleing me we can't keep people at the facility, especially the afghan people after we pull out our combat troops. what do you say that you can't do that unless you have a case you can take to a judge? >> i don't believe that foreign fighters, detainee, these terrorists captured on the battlefield are entitled to the statement constitutional rights as an american or anyone else who's in our country. these people captured on the pat battlefield and by the very nature of being captured, it's very difficult to get evidence that kwould hold up in a federal court. you can't have teams out there, you can't get fingerprints. but there's intelligence on them that could not be used in a court. and that's just the nature of it. so i just -- >> okay, let's -- congressman, let's just take these five fellas, four of them are real big shots. we have another 12 apparently sitting in there. we have more afghan prisoners sitting in gitmo. when do we release the rest of them? when we get our combat troops out at the end of '15 except for a few marines who have the tough duty of standing around our embassy. when do we let thoetz guys out. the afghan taliban. not necessarily al qaeda, but the afghan people on that side of the politics there. when do we let them out? >> most of our troops are coming out, it doesn't mean the war is going to be over. this war is going to go on and we want to maintain a civil society in afghanistan after we leave so it's not used as a sanctuary by al qaeda and the taliban to attack us again. and it's going to make it much more difficult to do that. think of the afghans that we left behind. think of those we left behind and we're sending killers back there who can kill them. also the troops we do have there also at risk. 4 just because the president says it's over, doesn't mean the war is over. >> i made your argument before, congressman, but i keep being hit by this, we don't have a british isles system that says you have the right to hold people, like the i.r.a. forever. have you got an legal opinion by anybody that's told you we the right to bring these people as foreign troops, as basically p.o.w.'s and hold them as long as we want? >> arguments made before the supreme court. basically the supreme courts upheld our right to have guantanamo. and so long there's engagements going on, certainly on the part of al qaeda, we have the right to hold them. as far as the taliban, we're going to have troops in there, even if it's a small number. and to send these taliban back, it puts those men and women at risk. >> congressman, it's always an honor to have you on. >> thank you. >> soo so what do the taliban really want from this deal? "time" magazine has an incredible story with access behind enemy lines. they talked to actual taliban commanders. one of the commanders told them, quote, we are fighting a wrar against each other in which the americans kill us and we kill them. the story goes on to say, quote, they see the exchange as an unmitigated victory. asked whether the taliban would be inspired by the exchange to kidnap other americans, a demander laughed. definitely he says. it's encouraged our people. now, everybody will work hard to capture such an important bird, in other words, grab somebody they can negotiate with. the leadership and the talibans are feasting on whole goats cooked in rice. a special meal usually reserved for celebrations. >> you just heard beeter king say they are the enemy, they are the sworn enemy. whether we can catch them on a law or nail them before the courts is irrelevant, they're coming to get us. we're going to stop them at keep them at gitmo. president's view seems to be, tell me if i'm wrong, eventually, as we continue our leaving of afghanistan over the next two year, we will have no more legal recourse or excuse to keep them. >> i think that's exactly what the president is driving at, chris. and you've crystallized it on the program, i've been sitting here listening in my ear piece, why this is such an important moment, this bergdahl swap in the history of this war is that we are finally starting to confront the incredibly difficult end came issues, which are so difficult because there really is no end game. it's the united states picking an arbitrary moment in the history of this struggle to say we're done. and there's no way the taliban or anyone else in afghanistan could look at this deal and not feel that the united states is starting to wash its hands of this story. it's been awkward the way the moment has come up, but the conversation is very important for the american public to be understand where we are. >> when the vietnam war ended, it was a horrible story in this country. but in the en, it turned out the vietnamese in the north and south really only cared about their country. they lead some jihad for communism. they wanted their country, they were nationalists, as well as communists. these people we're letting out now, we just let out the five, are they nationalists who simply want control of afghanistan? in which case, we could probably generally say we're out of the war, you're out of the war in terms of the afghan, the taliban versus u.s. war. or are they basically jihadists? they want to get us, period. wherever they can find us. >> i wish we could say that this was something that could be packaged up in afghanistan, but we know these guys. we've been through it. the taliban came to power in afghanistan in 1999. these five men were all part of it. and not only did they wreak havoc on the people of afghanistan dragging people into soccer stadiums for excuses, oppressing schoolchildren, you know, the whole story, blowing up historic landmarks, but they also opened up their country to become the central training base for al qaeda, which is not a nationalist organization. it's an international, global operation that seeks a reign of its own important part of the world. we know what their agenda is and whether they'll be able to be as effective in accomplishing it the second time around, i think we'll be finding out sometime after 2015. >> great reporting, great writing all the time, especially about kennedy. >> thank you very much. a great writer, great reporter. up next, by the way, this is why this is such a complicated issue for people like me. i don't see this as simply partisan like some issues like benghazi. anyway, you may have seen this video of president obama working out in a hotel gym over in poland. somebody snapped this. now it's earned him a fitness challenge from swift boat sugar daddy t. boone pickens. our "name your price" tool helps -- jamie, you've got a little something on the back of your shoe, there. 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[ rocky theme music playing ] >> and finally, we turn to the latest comments from the ultimate macho man vladimir putin. hillary clinton remarked that putin was trying to redraw boundaries the same way hitler was. the russian president called clinton weak. it's better not to argue with women. when people push boundaries too far it's not because they're strong, it's because they're weak. but maybe weakness isn't the worse quality for a woman. wow. photographed shooting a gray whale, hunting shirtless and tranquilizing a tiger, he shouldn't have taken this shot at hillary. the performance review. that corporate trial by fire when every slacker gets his due. and yet, there's someone around the office who hasn't had a performance review in a while. someone whose poor performance is slowing down the entire organization. i'm looking at you phone company dsl. check your speed. see how fast your internet can be. switch now and add voice and tv for $34.90. comcast business built for business. >> we're back with the release of hillary clinton's memoir is being released next tuesday. it releases a campaign rollout than a typical tour. there's the campaign special, then an appearance on good morning america on tuesday then an interview with cynthia mcfadden on nbc. then the following week a campaign style town hall with a live audience. the perception hillary clinton is the huge favorite for 2016 has taken hold and not just among the party faithful. many republicans believe it, too. operatives like karl rove have been single handedly fixated on clinton wage a strike to derail her candidacy before it gets going. chelsea's pregnancy was a political decision to help her mother's campaign. lynne cheney said the clintons put monica lewinsky up to telling her story to "vanity fair." and karl rove said most cently she suffered a traumatic brain injury. there's a growing sense of a clinton presidential campaign on the way. "time" magazine's joe kleine is a long-time chronicler of bill and hillary clinton and her own sense of inevitably as a candidate will prevent her from being spontaneous and may keep her from winning. here's his quote from joe kleine. if hillary clinton hopes to succeed, she's going to have to drop the veil spontaneously. quite possibly in a crucial moment like a debate and trust america to accept who she truly is. with us now to explain his beef is joe kleine himself. also our friend joan walsh of salon. you've got a moment or two here to just have a clear shot. i think you're dead right about hillary clinton, by the way. i think joan does, too. if you meet hillary clinton in an airport without any cameras around, there's a charm there. i don't mean this in any gender sense. just a charm as a human being which is so effusive and spontaneous and let's call it wonderful. on the stump, she's never been able to be that. bill clinton is the same no matter where you meet him. >> i don't think there's any such thing as inevitability in american politics. it's especially hard for -- you know, eshe's essentially running for the third term of barack obama's presidency and it's really hard when politicians are put in that kind of position. just look at al gore in 2000, he never learned ho uh to deal with clinton. and mccain had trouble dealing with george w. bush about the -- you know, the guy who was best at it was george h.w. bush who promised a kindler, gentler nation than the one under a very popular president ronald reagan, which led nancy reagan, if you recall, chris, to say kinder, gentler than what? >> that's a good question. he meant him. he meant reagan. >> that's right. this isn't an easy lift. there's another problem with a growing sense of populous on the left of the democratic party. bill clinton has already, already friendly policies in the 1990 for wall street. she's going to have to figure out how to deal with that. she's going to have to figure out how to deal with the hawkishness that bob gates describes in his memoir. which is exactly what a memoir should be. totally candid he's not looking for a job anymore. >> let me go to joan for a minute here. a couple points raised by joe is interesting. one is, can you convey charm and still keep control of the conversation? you don't just spit it out there? public. it's not easy to convey that ease when you're talking to the world. mitt romney taught us a all that as well as the workout video from the president. my question, sure she has to deal with bill and sure she has to deal with other thing, but in a sense, can she come on spontaneously? is it doable? >> it's tough. it's doable, but it is tough. joe has named some real problems for hillary clinton. around, i think martin o'malley would love to have these problems. and probably vice president biden, god bless him, would love to have these problems. but they're problems nonetheless. i feel a little sorry for her. we put her in a box and look at her all the time and then say stop being in a box and being looked at all the time. those of us who covered the clintons forever might have more clinton fatigue than a younger generation. my daughter's friends are very excited. i'm not speaking for all of them, to vote for the first woman president. i think they see her as charming. she's a lot more charming, funny, you know, she's let herself loosen up. she became a much better campaigner. second, you're right, joe, about the rising tide of economic populism. that's a challenge for her. she needs to meet it. i don't say this, but some people say she's got to distance herself from president obama. i think she has to distance herself from her husband's own poll spips she has to have an economic agenda that really gets us back to a sense of economic opportunity. >> let me get back -- let's play politics here. joan, i believe in to the truth about what you believe. i watched al gore face ralph nader all over the country to try to get back that six points. he got back that six points all right, but he lost a lot in the middle. when you start chasing your tail, or start chating your party's tail in november, october politics i'm talking about, you've got problems. i think nader ruined the guy, not just in florida, he forced him over to the left that n that way that made him -- he wasn't authentically populist any way. that lockbox stuff, none of that worked. your thoughts? >> the economic fate of the middle class is the number one issue. clinton is going to the to figure out just exactly, precisely where she's going to stand. i believe the left has some very good points to make, especially the role of the financial sector in our economy which has gotten humongous over the last 30 years. but the left is proposing more government and transfer of wealth. i think you bring as many people as you can up rather than pull people down. >> what would stop secretary clinton from running for president? i mean, something we don't know, because everything we know is a go. joe, you know this. why would she not run? i don't get the argument of people saying she might not run. why not? >> i think she's going to run. but she may wake up one morning thinking about her adventures in seattle in 1994 when she was trying to sell hillary care and people were screaming curses at her and spitting at her. doing all of these these disgraceful things and she might wake up one day and say i have a pretty good life as it is. >> i think she's got the spunk to handle that. joan, you wouldn't mind that. joe would love to have people yelling at him. it's all right to be hated by certain groups. >> we all think she's running. everything we hear, she's running. it would be a great shock if she didn't run. but joe is right, we all have those moments in our lives where something occurs to us and we decide we want, you know, we want -- >> the betting box is open. i'm easy to find in washington, if anybody wants to bet she's not running. great writing for "time" magazine as always. joan, i love the way you care. welcome back to "hardball." just when you thought things couldn't get any weirder, think again. first there was that arrest of supporters who took pictures of senator thad cochran's wife in a nursing home. three other supporters, a campaign official, a consultant and a tea party activist were found locked inside the county courthouse in the early morning hours on wednesday of this week. the mcdaniel campaign official involved scott brewster was linked three weeks ago. why were the supporters locked overnight where ballots were being stored? the sheriffs department told the clarion ledger newspaper "there are conflicting stories from the three of them which began to raise the red flag and we're trying to get to the bottom of it." late today they reported that investigators closed the case legally and said no laws were broken. we still don't know why the supporters were in that courthouse overnight. the gop chairman and the senior political reporter for nbc news join us now. we're watching this and all i'm thinking about what are guys doing in the middle of a courthouse where the ballots are being stored. what were they doing in there? >> chris, i could not answer that. i got the call at 2:00 from them saying they were in the courthouse. that was my first question is how did you get in and what are you doing there. i couldn't figure it out. >> do you think that they were all mcdaniel people. they are clearly activists, a tea party fellow and a guy with the campaign. and the ballots are there. do you think they were interested in anything but the ballots and being in there in the middle of the night. this is election night. >> this was election night. it was about 2:00 in the morning on wednesday. the voted ballots actually were in a locked room adjacent to where they got to. they were in the circuit clerk's office locked and the results were also in the office. but the ballot boxes had other materials in the lobby area where they were able to get to when they called me. but i can't tell you why in the world they would be in the courthouse at 2:00 in the morning. >> let me go to perry. this is a great story to cover in the sense that it's period. it's hi jinx, it's the middle of the night stuff. the only thing missing is the night watchman. it goes on top of sneaking into a hospital and assisted living situation and taking pictures of the senator's wife who is in a state of dementia. it seems like the kind of stuff that goes on in college student council races. somebody plays with the ballot box. it doesn't seem like real politics to me. >> the case is closed. there's no criminal problem here in terms of what happened last night. >> they only got to one room. >> what is going on with this campaign? that's the core question. mcdaniel supporters are doing things we can't understand. they are so weird and anything that's happened anywhere else. >> why are they acting like they are winning? that's what i can't figure out. >> they are giving three different stories. they are not being confident about what happened and why. >> let me go back to party chairman. do you think the republican party is worried that you may be getting a guy into the senate that may be hard to defend? are you going to fight for thad cochran between now and the run-off? >> as a party, a lot of people on both sides. there are a lot of people supporting cochran and there are a lot of people in the party that are supporting mcdaniel. so the party itself is not taking sides in it. a lot of the leaders are on one side of the other. >> who did you vote for in the primary? >> i am a supporter of thad cochran. i want to see him reelected. >> do you think the national party is going to try to prevent what looks to be the crazy card driving through your state saying this is gone too far? >> i think there are a lot of people worried about the same issue that the party faced in 2010 and 2012 with all of a sudden having a nominee that had some real problems with it. this campaign that does lead to the question about if you got campaign workers and supporters out doing these crazy things and we discover it in july and august to hand the seat over to the democrats. >> thank you so much, sir. thank you, pete perry. and perry bacon. we'll be right back after this. . doesn't cover floods? 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[ heart rate increases ] woman #2: but i don't even live near the water. what you don't know about flood insurance may shock you -- including the fact that a preferred risk policy starts as low as $129 a year. for an agent, call the number that appears on your screen. trwith secure wifie for your business. it also comes with public wifi for your customers. not so with internet from the phone company. i would email the phone company to inquire as to why they have shortchanged these customers. but that would require wifi. switch to comcast business internet and get two wifi networks included. comcast business built for business. let me finish tonight with this. i'm not an adviser to hillary clinton. i do think from the way things look right now she will be the next president. i can give you the reasons, what she's done, how well america knows and respects her, the desire for a woman president and the change of approach that might bring with it. anything can happen between now and november 2016. what makes politics exciting is the unexpected thing. that surprise invasion into the inevitable into something called reality. that said i think a great point is made in "time" magazine. it's about the public versus private hillary clinton. i've been tough on her, but when i come in contact with her, i find her more than likable enough, but really likable and that's a fact i have shared with everyone who has ever asked me. it is in her interest and in the country's to convey that private hillary to the public audience. all i can say is should you get the chance as so many people have into getting into close proximity, you will be stunned how likable a human being she is. perhaps she will find a time and place to let us see her as she is. and that's "hardball" for now. thanks for being here. thanks for being with us. "all in with chris hayes" starts right now. good evening from chicago tonight. i'm chris hayes. president obama took his critics head on to authorize the release of the five detainees who were held at guantanamo in exchange for the one army sergeant bowe bergdahl. a prisoner of war in afghanistan who had been held in captivity for nearly five years. >> i make absolutely no apologies for making sure that we get back a young man to his participants and that the american people understand that this is somebody's child. and that we don't condition whether or not we make the effort to try to get them back.
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