Lewandowski would have made of that development their way up to capitol hill, sat before dozens of cameras and testified as to the testimony perform our constitutional they gave robert mueller. Duties and decide how to respond that didnt happen. To the allegations laid out is this something that the white against the president by the special counsel. House worries about . You can adds other names to also under way at this hour, the that list, steve bannon, reince very first hearing to spotlight priebus, and robert mueller. Which of course still remains a the depth and breadth of robert goal of the democrats to have muellers findings around donald him appear before congress. My reporting today suggests the trumps efforts to thwart with white house didnt take today all that seriously. Russia investigation. Its not too surprising the president would let off a little john dean, essential figure in bit of steam about john dean who the watergate scandal is on he also points out as a cnn capitol hill educating lawmakers contributor. On the paralegals between the white house isnt that worried we read a tweet from the Richard Nixons abuse of power president , hes fixated. And Donald Trumps conduct in but the president sees office. Something and he reacts to it hes stressing importance of but in terms of the white house testimony from one critical at large, less so. Witness. I certainly hope don mcghan certainly weve been reporting is a key witness before this thattan even the president , hes committee, because of my sort of annoyed by it, but he testimony, the model code of the doesnt feel particularly threatened i dont think, at aba today makes very clear in least not yet. But the documents being turned rule 1. 13 that mr. Mcgahn over, is a bigger deal that could unnerve the white house. Represents not donald trump but its something theyre preparing the office of the president. For, something they fought for his client is the office of the for a long time, its a step in president. A direction that could be and i think he owes that office concerning to the west wing. Harry litman, we started with his testimony before this that because as Jonathan Lemire committee. In case there was any doubt suggests this is perhaps the as to what donald trump wanswer. Floodgate opening today more than the first public appearance on capitol hill. This is what chairman nadler said about getting that evidence. Well, we read some of it. Its what theyve been fighting over. My understanding, harry, is that some of it was turned over to save off or to buy the attorney general, a little bit of time in another negotiation, thats over whether or not he will be held in contempt of congress. Do you see this as sort of a gateway to Congress Getting their hands on important and key pieces of evidence, or is it just placating jerry nadler so they dont vote to hold barr in contempt . I think somewhere in between. It was a genuine concession from the white house. It was done to keep barr from being held in contempt on this first motion for the unredacted Mueller Report. Theres still the other one pending about the census case. But the Justice Department actually played it a little more traditional. There was jockeying on both sides and then they gave up the documents. You know, as i i think john is right as this shows today, theres no substitute for the people in the chair and the house is casting about for some kind of effective presentation for just educating people what the Mueller Report said. The evidence is going to be great but what what you need the evidence for is to use it to question witnesses, and so far they dont really have the money witnesses to do that with. But this will be evidence about the obstruction itself. So itll be the underlying documents that mueller referred to, and some of them will be pretty vivid. Mike schmidt i want to ask you about the power of evidence. You and your colleague Charlie Savage have a piece about the voice mail left on the voicemail machine of mike flynns lawyer, it was left by john dowd. Lets listen to it and well talk about your reporting. If you have it wouldnt surprise me if youd gone on to make a deal with uh, with the government. I understand that you cant join. If on the other hand, theres information that implicates the president , then weve got a National Security issue or maybe a National Security issue, i dont know. Some issue weve got to deal with. Remember what weve always said about the president and his feelings forward flynn. That still remains. Mike smith take us through the significant of that voicemail what it meant to the Mueller Probe and what it could mean to this ongoing process on capitol hill. It sort of is an unanswered question of the Mueller Report. Why was john dowd making that call . Was he simply freelancing and doing it on his own or was he doing it on the president s behalf . And the difference in this investigation is obviously the fact that the president held the pardon power. So why is it that dowd is saying that the president will continue to look favorably upon him, if he does provide that information. What is it that the president could give flynn . There are only a few things, one of them being a pardon. What we looked at in our story today is why did mueller not pursue that question further. Why did they not try to talk to john dowd . Its a difficult question because they probably would have gone to court to get a judge to force dowd to talk. Even if dowd talked its unsure how reliable his statements would have been. But was and still is a central question of the house investigation. Did the president try to abuse his power to protect himself and maybe these underlying documents will shed more light on it. Can you jump in to the point Jonathan Lemire was making about this concession of the Justice Department in terms of turning over some of the underlying evidence to chairman nadler . I dont think barr wants to be held in contempt, and hes willing to do what he can to try to prevent that, i dont think he would see it as a badge of honor, its something he wants to avoid. You see the beginnings of this deal here. Im not sure, though, how much these documents will change things. The thing im surprised by these hill requests is that the Mueller Report itself is such a rich document, theres so many Different Things in it, i dont know why they need more to dig in on. You and harry litman are nodding at that. Jump in and explain the significance. The committee described it as a break through. Mike schmidt is reporting theres a lot of evidence out there. You see in the voicemail, one piece of evidence does have the ability to at least focus the mind. I dont know if were looking at big shifts in public opinion, but just hearing these guys, it sounds like a scene out of good fellas there is power in getting their hands on more information. Youre right. This voicemail really excel pli fies this whole thing. We knew about it from the Mueller Report, we knew it was another instance where this was there potentially obstruckive conduct yet somehow you hear the words on the voicemail and its an oh my goodness moment, that sounds like witness tampering. Thats the power of evidence. The power of hearing something as opposed to reading it in a dry document. Thats why its significant that the house is going to get some of these underlying documents. I agree with harry, you have to have a warm body in the seat for it to come alive. You need a way for the pieces of evidence to come to life. But having those underlying documents, some of which im certain are going to be shocking, thats big. I want your thoughts, christine, of where we are. Are we at the beginning of the next phase . At the end of the mueller phase . What is this moment right now with some of this evidence being turned over to the committee, with barr trying to stave off it seems like barr, theres more New York Times reporting that compares him to dick cheney, which is an apt parallel in modern history. He wants to walk up to the line but doesnt want to get in trouble for it. Were in dantes inferno, i dont know what level were in. Barr is by all accounts respected. So i think hell go up to that line. The president we know has always leaned on the line of legality, he crossed it. He did casinos in Atlantic City so i think the good fellas reference is apt. The fact you would have someone leave a voicemail is insane. When jonathan listed the names theres one you didnt list, that im curious about is sean spicer. Every day he came in front of the American Public and lied to us. Were finding out in the Mueller Report there are things he said that are contrasted. And we know that Sarah Sanders hasnt bothered to discuss stuff with us in 85 days. So hes one other name i would like have a turn in the hot lo past presidencies, and president s who have had altercations or interactions with congress, their coequal partner in governance, weve never seen a president and his administration this blatant and this bold. You can say what you want about nixon, nixon was still an executive of the state of california. He had some paranoia issues, however, i dont think under statement. Under statement of the century. But i really dont think he dis like had the same level of disrespect for the office that donald trump has. And unfortunately were in a moment right now where trump somehow is able to bully sort of formerly good men into doing his dirty work, which is crumbling our system and showing how weak and fragile our democracy is. Do you think the democrats have risen to that moment no. Theres a more recent example than nixon. John ewe at the Justice Department, hes alarmed by the way the Justice Department this is almost like a punch line of a joke. How bad it . Its so bad john yu is freaked out. When we have the breakdown of so many institutions simultaneously, this is why were all in a collective panic because we have the president saying the doj is not to be trusted, the fbi, the cia, the military is not to be trusted, the media isnt to be trusted, congress isnt to be trusted. So when were trying to put together a narrative on how corrupt and illegal this man has been since roughly 2015, all the other institutions that have been historically able to support keeping the executive on the straight and narrow are weakened. Weakened in the court of public opinion, weakened because the men and women in those institutions in some ways arent upholding their own jobs and duties. Were seeing it in congress for sure with the republican parties. Were seeing with democrats, youre peacetime democrats, youre not democrats for this era. Chuck schumer where are you . Tom perez what are you doing . These are people time and time again were so disappointed. Youd be great in Hillary Clinton presidency but for now youre not who he we need as the leadership. This is the collective frustration the democrats have. We are bringing emails to a knife fight. And donald trump is for those of us from new york, we know how he operates. We know how he has skimped and scammed and cheated and lied his or the cli, he and his father and the entire family. Were watching the family enrich themselves, watching the republicans bow to the president for the sake of the president , theyre doing it for donald trump. Thats the fear if and when he leaves office the damage is done. The world has seen we have no clothes, the emperor is gone. How do we recover as a nation but as a democracy having had the last two and a half years in front of us . I want to come back to the testimony on capitol hill. Donald trump is also going to benefit today by the fact that there was a tragedy here in new york city. Even the democrats, if you look at the wheels of justice starting to grind slowly on capitol hill, that started today. John dean for better or worse was a witness who was available. I think there are some other former prosecutors on capitol hill. Do they view this as settled, that don mcghan will never go, that hope hicks will never go, that Chris Christie will never go . Do they view this as locked up for them . Is this done . Have they contained all the damage are from muellers investigation, are they confident none of those witnesses will show their faces on capitol hill. First of all im going to use emails to a knife fight. Thats good. An operative texted me this afternoon, lets not make light a tragedy in new york but there was real frustration, they were hoping to get cable coverage over what did not happen, but that did not occur because the networks were going around the clock with the incident in manhattan. They feel strongly about this, they feel this is a long time, its going to be tied up, a lengthy process before any of these people appear and if they do, how cooperative they will be. Yes, today some documents were turned over from the department of justice, a lot of it was to prevent the attorney general from being held in contempt. But the overarching strategy of saying no, stonewalling, just the other day we know hope hicks and others were structured by the white house not to appear. Theyre not relenting on that at all, and no sign its going to change any time soon. Mike schmidt i want to come back to your reporting. I got to the bottom and was left this question a lot of people ask about robert mueller, was his intention always to turn all this stuff over to congress, or is it a more nuanced legal analysis that he just wanted to focus his attention on the president . I dont know. I you know, and obviously mueller doesnt want to, you know has said that hes not going to testify. Im not sure how he would answer that question about the underlying evidence. I think my guess is from muellers world and from muellers perspective, they would say that they had put so much detail in the report, there is so much there to work with, that im not sure how much the underlying evidence really helps. And as you see today, its just another struggle the democrats up on the hill today, they dont they once again dont have a witness. They dont have a witness. And even if they have these documents, they still have struggled to compel people like mcgahn or hope hicks to come up there. So without that, im not sure how theyre going to grab anyones attention. Harry, let me put the same question to you. A lot of the analysis was that mueller always intended for congress to be the arbiter. Do you think he could have predicted the situation that mike schmidt just detailed, that they got a report and no one to bring it to life . No witnesses . Definitely. A big part of mikes reporting is he chose not to pursue john dowd, which would be the obvious move. He said it was because of Attorney Client privilege. We have again mueller using markey of queensbury rules going up against a ufc fighter. And he comes across now as very reticent as a prosecutor, a 1950s figure who some ways was outmaneuvered, including by bill barr. He could have seen this, and he didnt push on having trump testify, he didnt push on this, and he said as mike points out, we had enough evidence. Evidence of what . It has to be of trumps intent. And yet thats the big hole that at least has permitted the barrs of this world to say barr is not guilty of obstruction. So he really was passive in several key junctures that would have been critical for stitching up the deal. Mike schmidt thank you for your reporting and for spending some time with us. All of you left us with more questions than answers, i guess thats why we stay in business day after day asking the questions. 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It was the pause heard around the world when the countrys attorney general pauses there asking if a campaign should tell the fbi if theyre contacted by a foreign power if they are contacted to have dirt on an opponent. Congress is taking the matter into their own hands. Nbc news reports, quote, as democrats prepare to launch a more robust hearing and legislative strategy across six committees to highlight the special counsels investigation they are discussing bills to magnify wrong doing uncovered in muellers report, including contacts with russian entities, the focus in upcoming hearings would be design to reign in President Trumps abuses and safeguard from attacks. Joining us is charlie psycsykes. You and i are old enough to remember when republicans might have drafted legislation like this, actually a bipartisan effort, john mccain, Lindsey Graham on the right need i go on . How is it that republicans are going to get dragged to this by democrats . Well, thats why this is i think a good idea, its necessary but perhaps not sufficient. Theres nothing democrat or republican about this, this is Good Government legislation. It addresses the fact that the Mueller Report told us what happened in the past. But theres also whats going on now and whats going to happen in 2020. One of the Untold Stories is, what are we doing to prevent a repeat of 2016 next year . Are we prepared to defend our democracy against future attacks. I think this is where the democrats might find themselves with the high ground. Make the republicans articulate why they would be against a mandatory reporting of contacts from Foreign Government. Why they would be against something that would protect the integrity of the ballot box. This is not a substitute for impeachment proceedings or other hearings but its Good Government legislation and i think you ought to challenge republicans if you want to be against it, go on the record and explain to the voters why you are not protecting the franchise going forward. You put that question to donald trump in helsinki, why do you think donald trump doesnt want to get behind and cheerlead legislation to keep Foreign Governments out of our democracy. I think a few things, one is ego, who cannot handle talk that his win in 2016 is in any way illegitima illegitimate. Talks about his relationship with russia, some of which still exists. Part of what has driven him, he feels if you suggest russia interfered he wasnt legitimately elected. Thats why we heard flatout nonsense about voter fraud and millions of people cast their ballots in california or something illegally because he lost the popular vote. Hes very deferential to vladimir putin, to russian interests. We dont necessarily know all the reasons why to this day that happens but helsinki was the finest point on it, but not the only time hes done this. That was a point he sided with russia over u. S. Intelligence agencies but there have been countless time every day of his administration he could have put together safeguards to prevent foreign election interference, he has not done so. His administration has dragged feet doing this, other republicans havent stepped in. It seems the governments most sacred duty is to safeguard the vote and the white house has not done so. It does also send a really, i think, disorienting signal, not just on to our adversaries who sends the signal, open season. But to our allies there used to be a banding together, shared practices. If its happening at all, its happening without the president s right. I dont know if he doesnt know or they dont brief him regularly. Theres a difference between keeping him out of the loop and doing something he doesnt approve of. I imagine theyre doing the first, keeping him out of the loop. But the idea this too is partisan seems to represent the complete and total breakdown of National Security policy making. This is the makings of the fix that doesnt seem like it should be the fix. If you polled regular americans and said what should you do if someone comes from a foreign country i have information that can affect the election, i bet most people reach out to the fbi. Its a natural reaction. Why this now has to be a political issue is baffling to me. This is something that is clearly common sense. I think its an absolute as charlie said its Good Government and its a way to increase the amount of transparency we have to build back up public trust in the integrity of our elections, which is what we need going into the next cycle. Harry, it does sound like an arsonist picking up the hose and putting out the fire. Are these real conversations that were having with donald trump kind of winking and nodding to the russians . Thats kind of an imponderable. I agree its a Good Government provision and who could argue against it but obviously it has the political veneer of a kind of retroactive condemnation of 2016. I think again its a pretty pale substitute for an actual hard look at what actually happened in 2016. Moreover, you know, its likely that mcconnell folds his hands and nothing much happens. And, of course, in very short order, this i think has to shed on everything. Were a couple weeks away from the first democratic debate. These efforts are very soon going to be really played out against the think of the reelection campaign, which is going to change everything. But i think if this passes the house, its a slight little mark on trump, but its really more of pelosi and the democrats casting about for something in lieu of the kind of more vivid impeachment inquiry that they really want. The intelligence heads have really walked a tight rope. Testifying forthrightly on capitol hill around issues around like iran and north korea where they have differences. They see the facts, donald trump doesnt want to hear the facts. One of the things and im coming back to you because you hit on all the points about barr but i want to read you something from the New York Times profile about him. One of the big reaches or extensions of his power has been in the area of intel. New york times reporting that barrs rising power over the Intelligence Community has been accompanied by swelling disallusionment with mr. Barr amongst Security Officials and moderates. When he agreed to take the job, many cast him as a republican straight shooter steeped in ideological moores. Now they see him as someone who has glossed over mr. Trumps misdeeds, smeared his investigations and possibly could declassify information for political gain. Not the bill barr they knew. Its more than a power grab. Its a real threat to the Intelligence Community. I always said President Trump is the antimidas, everyone around him gets mired in disgrace. Somehow the president remains either relatively unstained or he wears stains and he says hes its his look. Right. Youve seen the men who served the nation in various capacities get into the trump camp and completely disavow previous believes and the hard work theyve done and leave ultimately in disgrace, whether its personal or amongst their professions or in the national media. I think whats so worrisome, for a Political Science professor, i read the federalist papers, the letters that George Washington left us before he left office. They warned us about this. Its one thing to have hyper partisanship, which is one thing George Washington worried about. Its another thing to have foreign influence. Once that seeps in our allies know they cant trust us, theyre going to move on and form coalitions without us. The people who have a hold on donald trump, whether its russia, north korea, the saudis who spend 26 nights in a suit in his hotel and they know he reads the ledgers every night to make sure hes keeping his money there. We have to follow the money. Anything going on with this president , i think honestly as we follow the money well get a clearer idea of just how insidious the foreign influence is, and i dont think its just putin, unfortunately. When you saw putin link up with the saudis i forgot what meeting it was, maybe it was helsin helsinki, and the smiles as they greeted each other, as if to say were in. Mission accomplished. They should have hung a banner, Mission Accomplished. And trump thinking hes six steps ahead of the game. But theyre so far ahead of you as far as policy and figuring out your weaknesses when it comes to your finances, whatever they may be. 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Theyre ready for change and i got a plan for that. Wow. You almost couldnt move in cedar rapids iowa this weekend without bumping into a democratic candidate for president. It was the biggest gathering yet. 19 out of 23 people at a fundraiser. New york times wrote it up, it had the atmosphere of a circus, one with a very, very big tent. A new poll in iowa, joe biden maintains his lead in the field but just below him, a three way tie between bernie sanders, elizabeth warren, and mayor Pete Buttigieg. Joining our conversation Washington Post correspondence an karen. Your paper writes this, warren is experiencing something unusual in the crowded democratic field, momentum. Crowds have been flocking to her events her nonstop stream of policy positions add up to what would be a restructuring of american capitalism is driving the debate. Shes a better candidate than she was two years ago and shes shaping the conversation in the democratic primary. For sure she has more breadth and better stage presence than the last time out. It was interesting to see as you point out there, its a tie for second place among three, its a statistical tie. Those four, biden and the three who are tied are the only ones in double digits in that iowa poll. So that gives you a little bit of a reality check of how early this is and really how low all those numbers are. Let me read this for folks in the car. Put that up again quick. You have joe biden at the top 24 , this is an iowa poll. Biden at 24 . At 16 is bernie sanders, at 15 elizabeth warren, and mayor Pete Buttigieg at 14. Everybody else in single digits. Kamala harris is at 7. Amy klobuchar and beto orourke at 2 . Since the last time that this particular poll, which is has a history behind it. And one of the things shes very good historically at doing is paying attention and tracking accurately who is moving and why. What you see between the last one and this one is that warren has oped up biden has gone down, sanders has gone down and warren has sopped up those additional numbers. Mayor Pete Buttigieg not for Nothing Holding there with the number two folks in the field. Fuelled by Pitch Perfect appearances and commentary on the news of the day. And he keeps stringing together really kind of the right responses to the crises that we face in a daytoday news cycle. What else is fuelling mayor pete . Well, you know, hes a guy whos comfortable in his own skin, isnt he . He doesnt seem to have a focus Group Formula to run the campaign, and i think people find that refreshing. I think hes very much of a fresh face and hes Pitch Perfect, youre right. I cant help but think about two things happening, you have a coalessing around the four front runners but youre seeing a fracturing on the democratic field where they are taking the knives out and making more pointed attacks than i think a lot of Democratic Leaders were hoping the candidates would take. Joe biden is still the front runner but not dominant. The fact is over the last week i think he showed some vulnerability by flip flopping on the hollywoyde amendment. And youre seeing them aggressive on the attacks on him. Whether theyre attacks on one another, its unclear. But so far mayor pete is above the fray. You wonder if this becomes really intense and they all fire on one another is mayor pete the last man standing . Id like to focus on the next page of the people in the poll. We have some tiers here. But then if you go to the next page. Look at the number of people at 1 , cory booker, and kirsten gillibrand, and governors and senators with real resumes to have caught no traction to this point. And we put the caveat it is early but that debate looms large, its hard to break through in a debate stage that crowded, because at some point those candidates need to raise money to stay in this thing and i think youre going to see some perhaps surprising candidates, people a year ago we would have thought that senator is going to be there till the end, maybe bailing out before the first votes are cast because they cant afford to stay in the race. You and i have disagreed over joe biden before. He has been the front runner since before he entered but his lead is solid, it may be shrinking. I worked on a lot of campaigns but thats a lead. It is a lead. And we havent had any debates. Part of the unfortunate thing for joe biden is hes been a Public Servant for 40 years. Why is that unfortunate . Hes been on the wrong side of history, a lot of democratic mayors were for the crime bill, something joe biden championed and were no longer there as a party. So he has to change on the hyde amendment, crime, environment, whatever, as an evolution and not a flip flop and depending on how many people team up on him at a debate, i dont think hes as sharp on the stump as he was in 2008, i dont. So he still has great political instincts, still incredibly charming, crazy smart, we get that. But there are a lot of smart people on the stage. If they can frame it as you served our nation admirably, we appreciate you, but you are not the person for 2020, and why dont you step aside, whether its for gender reasons or whatever demographics there are, and give someone else an opportunity who possibly doesnt have as much baggage that can be a centrist in the general but progressive in the primary, maybe this is something to think about. Depending on who makes it in the next two and a half weeks on the democratic stage, does everyone pilon to joe biden because hes the front runner or do you sometimes ignore him and present your case. This isnt a candidate versus joe biden, this is my opportunity to show why i am the democratic nominee. I can see someone like Pete Buttigieg doing it, elizabeth warren, and kamala harris, just focussing on who they are and not his record. I think its amazing that democrats beat up the front runners in the way that republicans never do. We preserve them like fabrege eggs, we put together the campaigns to protect and serve. Democrats savage their front runners. I think a lot of democrats would argue that Hillary Clinton should have been savaged earlier, it would have made her a better candidate or knocked her out of the race. There was a sense of history here, although she said publicly and many times thats not the way the democrats do it, im not inevitable, the sense of inevitability worked against her. Charlie i saw you chuckle. I remember when jeb exclamation point was the front runner and i dont think he was treated with kid gloves. By trump. By trump. My point is, republicans fall in line, im not arguing for or against either strategy. Its just interesting. I dont meet a lot of people, moms at drop off, people at airports, gas stations, people at the seven eleven, people at costco, who are anything other than warm feeling about joe biden, but the experts, pros, analysts are sharply critical of him. You dont see that on the right. I think that joe biden got off to a good start. But look hes going to be tested over a very, very long campaign. There are a lot of question marks number one about his age, how durable a candidate is going to be, how much baggage. Hes going against donald trump who wears silk pajamas until 1 00 and tweets all day. After the break, donald trump makes fake news on his own on the topic of mexico. Well break it down for you after the break. Mexico well break it down for you after the break. Your daily dashboard from fidelity. A visual snapshot of your investments. Key portfolio events. All in one place. Because when its decision time. You need decision tech. Only from fidelity. I didnt have to call 911. And i didnt have to come get you. Because you didnt have another heart attack. Not today. You took our conversation about your chronic coronary Artery Disease to heart. Even with a stent procedure, your condition can get worse over time and keep you at risk of blood clots. So you added xarelto® to help keep you protected. 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The times reported much of what trump was talking about was mentioned before. That seemed to when will the failing New York Times admit the border is a fraud and nothing i announced for the presidency, everyone is back someone is sick. First of all. Its a play book. He declares a crisis and claims a victory. That is what happened here beborder bebordered for ireland. We land. Did you really think they would . I always thought that was fake. A lot of it seems to be not some deal with mexico, the community leaned on the white house to say we strongly oppose this, we have to start mobilizing against you, we have seen the mexican officials have said like there is no secret deal, every time the president has put forth, oh weve agreed to in this and this many mexico is no, no, no. The Business Community is sated. He threatened they can ramp it up again. To me this teams like in parenting when the child cries wolf so many times and they say, yeah, no, we are done with you man child. Well, mexico has really tried very hard not to captive. To do this. Exactly. They do not want to be in the position of putting the president in the corn to further your analogy. But theyre also not going to the president surgeon going to look like doctor Donald Trumps patsy he cant afford that what seemed to put him over the edge was a lie. This story was over a deal that had already been worked out. The meltdown came after he tried to lie about it after the fact. The mexicans certainly won this round, which infuriates the president. He thought he figured out a way to craft his own backing down as a victory. The only one reason he backed down is Senate Republicans thought, no, were not doing this the business implications, the markets were spooked on thursday and friday. That was communicated very forcefully to the white house. He knew he had really shifting sand and probably Mitch Mcconnell going against him on this. Charlie sykes, it would seem to me the president freaks out the most when hes afraid, afraid of anne coulter, rush limbaugh, the bases reaction with anything to do with his failure. You have right, red, center, left, right, black, burnle, red, female, he was failing at immigration which were only reason he ran for president. The others i cant think of them right now. The idea that anytime someone covers facts with mexico he flips out is a rally insightful window with his psych ki, his record on immigration. Well you are right about that. This is a president who is an arsonist that wants to feel he is a fire fighter. Actually he threatens and he backs down and people are figuring out that he backs down a lot and theyre onto the fact that he is that he bluffs. I kind of knew the guy was a fraud. In the international world, i think this is camping up with him. Yeah, he had a lot of pressure from the Business Community and the republicans and the senate and the jobs numbers on friday. The mediocre jobs numbers, the one thing that donald trump does not want to mess with. He doesnt want to mess with the markets and employment. He blinked on this. He is counting on the usual court of yours to basically say you are a great deal maker, this was a huge victory. You have hugh hewitt in the Washington Post. This is a huge triumph. Nobody knows how to deal with us. In this particular case he went perhaps too far. I think you are right. We are going to sneak in our last break. Dont go anywhere. Well be right back. Thats when fastsigns recommended fleet graphics. Yeah, and now business is rolling in. Get started at fastsigns. Com. And i dont add trup the years. S. But what i do count on. Is boost® delicious boost® high protein nutritional drink has 20 grams of protein, along with 26 essential vitamins and minerals. Boost® high protein. Be up for life. And with new features and richer stories. It can show dad where hes from. And strengthen the bonds you share. 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That does it for this hour, im nicole wallace. Mtp daily Steve Kornacki in for chuck starts right now. If its monday as the households it first hearing on special counsel muellers report, the Justice Department hands over everyday that could shed light on possible obstruction by President Trump. That material could be in House Democrats hands within minutes, but no mention of mueller in iowa as 2020 candidates hit the trail there and new poll numbers show a
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