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300,000 impacted across the country. And while some hold out hope of finding loved ones alive amid the devastation, others already know exactly what they have lost. Translator im alone now, he says. I had a home and a family. Now, i have nothing. And take a look at these pictures, the one on the left was taken shortly after Dannelly Cavalcante escaped from prison 12 days ago. The one on is what he looked like now, new look, new clothes and apparently transportation. A News Conference with the latest on the manhunt just an hour away. And President Bidens president ial campaign has pushed to do something the candidate himself has shied away from, focus more on former President Donald Trump in the hopes of giving the Biden Campaign a badly needed financial boost. But we start in morocco where the golden window, that 72hour period where rescuers are most likely to find survivors is about to close. Ratcheting up the heartbreak and misery in the most devastating earthquake in 100 years. We just learned the death toll is 2,681. And dozens of injured and casualty figures expected to rise. Most coming from remote towns like this, in and around the Atlas Mountains, some of the poorest parts of countries. Many blocked off with roads. And in places where rescue teams can get to, theyre heading to there. But a daunting challenge that they said on the today show with very little equipment available, the rescuers have the exhausting job of digging with a shovel or sometimes, just their bare hands. Were trying to get people, were looking for people, still. Its hard, because you can see, its very basic. Its full of areas, its not easy to find pockets of survivors but were still working. In the city of marrakech, large sections of the citys center have been destroyed. Tourists and locals are sleeping outside, either because they lack shelter or afraid of being crushed in aftershocks. In one of the remote villages hardest hit, raf. Reporter were seeing devastation all across the disaster zone, with the death toll thats rising all the time. But much of the worst damage is concentrated in Remote Mountain villages like this one. This village is called moulay brahim. Were about 30 miles east of the epicenter of the earthquake here. This was a Community Hit hard. It was home to some 3,000 people. They tell us about 40 people were killed in the initial quake on friday night. So that is more than 1 of this village that lost their lives. We met a man here called lasim, he lost not only his wife, but his three daughters and his baby son. He told us, he does not know how hes going to carry on with grief on that scale. The only photograph he still had of his wife was her national i. D. Card. Despite all the heartbreak in villages like this across the region, the Rescue Effort continues. We have seen just in this community, not just professional volunteer, professional rescue teams from turkey and italy, but also just local people, volunteers, who hand by patient hand have been sifting through the rubble, trying to save the lives of their neighbors. There was a rescue here earlier. That is giving people hope that they may still find survivors. The experts will tell you, it is the first 72 hours after the earthquake that are absolutely critical that represent the best chance of finding people alive. Rescue teams here say theyre committed to working this as long as it takes. Even as that window starts to close. Back to you. Raf sanchez, thank you for that. I want to bring in the senior manager of Asia Operations for world central kitchen, which has served millions of meals and provided other relief in devastated areas like morocco. She is in marrakech right now. Thank you so much for talking with us. Tell us, first of all, just what youre sees and what is needed most. So, we have the kitchen team and scouts out using air assets, fourwheel drives working extremely closely with communities. And we are getting out to those remote villages as fast as we possibly can to serve the community with fresh milk and water, especially in those hardhit regions. What have they described to you about what theyre seeing and what they need to help the people there that have gone through this almost unspeakable tragedy . See, the wonderful thing about the moroccan people is that they have jumped in heads first, hearts first, to help their community members. And just to be able to be serving, during this extremely awful time, but we are seeing a lot of devastation. There has been a lot of criticism on the ground there about what the government has done, that they havent moved after i dont want to get new the middle of the politics of this, thats not why youre there. But do you have the resources you need . How well equipped are you to meet the needs of the people who are looking to you for help . Once again, weve got the help of the people, with the help of world kitchen, and the networks. Were able to scale to be able to meet those needs, that is happening at the moment, right now with fresh meal, sandwiches and fruit and water. And very soon, we will have equipment that is coming in to be able to cook thousands of meals. And thats going to be able to be deployed into some remote regions. Thats the part of the mission that folks here in the United States know best that youre able to feed people who dont have the ability to do that. But your organization is not just doing that. You sent us a Video Showing one of your helicopters being used to evacuate an earthquake victim from a mountain village. The helicopter literally perched on the edge of that mountain road. Tell us about the breadth of your mission and what you hope to be able to accomplish, ultimately, in the coming days and perhaps weeks. Absolutely. So central kitchen, were laser focused at reaching communities at the margins. Were focused on overcoming every challenge in order to serve in dignity in the form of fresh meals and fresh drinking water. And the video that youre seeing now is the testimony to the pilot, number one, the american pilot, who is able to take us to those places and works with those people in the high Atlas Mountains who really know it like the back of their hands and that enables the world central kitchen as a superpower to be hopeful and able to reach as many communities as soon as possible. That is an unbelievable picture. Ive driven those roads, the Precipitous Drop where hes landed. All of those roads in the high Atlas Mountains are absolutely incredible. So, kudos for him for being able to do that. So, as people are watching this and they see how great the need is, what can people do to help . People can help by heading to wck. Org, there will be more information. Well keep updating everybody as things develop. And as we scale up our operation to feed families in the moroccan high Atlas Mountains. Thank you for all of you and all your colleagues do. We wish you luck as you continue that fantastic work. Thank you. And in those remote regions as we just saw in the video of that helicopter, search teams are struggling to meet mountainous villages where entire villages have collapsed. Sky news chief correspondent Stewart Ramsey is reporting 2 miles east of marrakech. Reporter theyre coming to find people which theyve been doing already and also now to clear the roads. Its very difficult. Cant get trucks past here at all. They need to try to get hands there on the equipment further up. There are survivors, many thought wouldnt be found here. And these villages, i mean, they were really hit hard. Look at that, across four people survived in that town. You can see its on top of a hill. The monastery is on the back, thats collapsed. And Everything Else around it has collapsed. As i say, only four people escaped from that. Absolutely everyone else has died. The first rescue teams came in and assessed the building of what survived here. Everyone else has died. Sky news, Stewart Ramsey, thank you for that. The ongoing fight, 22 years later, 9 11, to shed light on saudi arabias involvement as america remembers those who were lost. Were back in 60 seconds. This year, 22 years after the September 11th Terrorist Attacks upended the nation, the emotion is still raw. And we saw it and heard it this morning. [ bells ] New York Citys ground zero just after 9 00 a. M. , mourners mixing with the leaders of the nation, including Vice President Kamala Harris. The symbolic bells ringing at 8 46, 9 03, the exact moments when the planes hit each of the towers. That followed by a Moment Of Silence and the reading of the names of those killed in the attacks. My brother thomas swift. Your family loves and misses you, we may have been torn from us that day, but your love and memories will never be torn from our hearts. And at the pentagon, an American Flag was unfurled over the side of the building where the hijacked commercial airliner crashed. Remembrances, now all too familiar, but no less heartbreaking. And so many questions remain. 40 of the people who died in the twin towers on September 11th, 2001 remain unidentified, though two more dna matches came in just on friday. And on capitol hill, theres a new Bipartisan Push to understand exactly what happened. And how involved saudi arabia may have been in the attacks. Connecticut democratic senator Richard Blumenthal and republican senator ron johnson are now pressing the fbi director and the Attorney General to release the complete unredacted records of saudi arabias role. Nbcs rehema ellis is at Ground Zeerry with us. Also with me, cofounder of Punchbowl News and msnbc contributor jake sherman. Thanks to both of you for being here. Rehema, it never gets any easier. Walk us through what happened in the events commemorating this anniversary. Reporter chris, youre right, it doesnt get easier, two decades later, 22 years ago, the nation falls in ghastly horror about what happened to it. Today, again, this morning, the nation stood and paused to remember all of those whose lives were lost 22 years ago, nearly 3,000 of them. We played some of the poignant scenes, the sounding of the bells, the ringing of the bells. The moments of silence. Even the moments of silence filled with emotion. And the sounds from the Family Members remembering their loved ones lost. As one man just said, as his loved one was torn away from him violently, but he remains in his heart. One thing i want to mention to you, what people are thinking about, names continue to be added to this wall. There have been 341 firefighters who have died of 9 11related illnesses since the attack 22 years ago, adding to that number of 343. In addition there is, as you point out, these people who remember the remains of those victims who have not yet been identified. But its important to remember that the city Medical Examiner has made a solemn pledge to all of the Family Members that theyre going to do everything they can to identify the remains of their loved ones, no matter how long it takes. Tonight there is going to be a tribute in light, that weve seen so many years. Down through battery park, just a few steps from ground zero. And its the beaming towers of light shooting up into the sky, a reminder of what was lost here more than two decades ago. Those are the kinds of things that people have been thinking about today. Theyre going to be remembrances going on across the country. There are remembrances going on everywhere. Including with the man who is now 28 years old. He was only 6 years old, when his father who was a policeman and his uncle, a fireman, died on 9 11. I asked him what it was like for him to be here today. Take a listen. Today, remembrance, but its also like a celebration of my fathers life. So, i mean, every year, the Police Officers and firefighters Sand Councilmen for my dad, they come hover to our house for a barbecue, tell us stories about my dad, tell us things outside of home at work to understand who he was. It brings him back to life . Yes, maam. Reporter and thats what this moment is about, not allowing the terrorists to take the life and the love of the ones that were part of their lives. They will come here every year, they say, because its so important that the nation remember and not forget what happened here on September 11th, 2001. Chris. Rehema ellis, thank you for that. Jake, there is the emotion, and also dont answer questions, right . And the Bipartisan Group of senators say in their letter they havent received a single letter or obtained an explanation for any of the hundreds of redactions that remain. What more can you tell us about this bipartisan effort . Reporter this is long, chris, a subject of contention on capitol hill. That lawmakers feel like the administration, not only this administration, but the previous administrations have withheld information, intelligence, data, documents, letters, records about saudi arabias role in the September 11th attacks. What it knew, what it didnt know. Whether it gave money, all sorts of questions that lawmakers have had traditionally. Now, they dont have a ton of recourse here if they dont get the information, especially because some of it is unclassified. But i will say this, they are threatening, senator Richard Blumenthal of connecticut, ron johnson of wisconsin, indicating they would be willing to subpoena and start what could be a protracted legal fight over these documents. Again, if you think about this at a 30,000foot level, weve had a lot of complication with saudi arabia. A robust relationship in which the saudis bought weaponry from the United States, than previously in the past. We have now, the saudi arabians are in negotiations with the israelis and the americans over normalizing relationships the Relation Shinn with israel. So, theres a lot of geopolitical ways in the mix here as well. We also have interests by some of these same senators, by the way, in saudi a much less important issue, but saudi arabias role on the liv golf tour. There are a lot of issues with saudi arabia, this atop them. And going to get attention in the days and weeks ahead. And you have the senators saying if the doj do not provide the documents in the weeks ahead theyre going to consider the tools ahead. What does that mean exactly . It means subpoena, chris. They dont have a ton of resource. By the way, they dont have a ton of resource when it comes to subpoena for Classified Information for otherwise sensitive information. There could be negotiations in which certain lawmakers could see certain information in a secure facility. Theres all sorts of ways for the administration to lower the temperature on this. But i will say this, the Biden Administration probably doesnt want to get into a long political or legal fight with congress over these documents. 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As of now, authorities have only told us about the last one they had early yesterday morning. The big question is, has he been spotted again . At last check, he is, of course, still on the loose. Our understanding hes still in pennsylvania at least according to their intel, what they believe here. But lets talk again about all of the things we learned this weekend. Remember, it was just saturday that they had the search down to a fourmile perimeter. That was the botanical gardens. Thats not that far from where we are right now, the command post. By all accounts they were closing in on him. By saturday night, he made his way through that perimeter. Was able to steal that dairy van. Apparently, they left the keys in the van, its a small rural area, they felt safe doing so. He took the van, east of where we are right now, knocked on the door of two different people, two different homes of people he used to work with, asking for help. That is something, when you talk about his changed appearance, we know hes broken into at least one home. Stealing provisions, food. Hes got new clothes. Something that a lot of people are asking about, is he getting help. Authorities havent confirmed that hes getting help. Certainly something to keep an eye on. He said theyre doing things behind the scenes trying to make sure he got the help. Hes Got A Freshly Shaven face. The question is where did he get the razor . Hes got a new sweatshirt. The question is where did he go since then, chris . They know obviously, hes trying to get what he can. They say keep your keys out of your car, keep your doors locked, not just your home, your vehicle, this is somebody who has stolen a van, probably maybe already has done so, and chris, they just upped the reward money to 25,000 as theyre still looking for this man. At this point, a nationwide manhunt, chris. 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Just today, new nbc news reporting about the major Fundraising Push by the Biden Campaign, now struggling to keep pace with donald trump uses his legal woes to rake in millions in campaign contributions. Team bidens goal is to recruit 1,000 new fundraisers by january who will focus in the 250 to 1,000 range. Theyre making the case that donald trump and his allies are a threat to democracy. Let me bring in matthew dowd, former chief strat jiflt for the Bush Cheney Campaign and a former msnbc analyst, good afternoon, my friend. Let me put out specific numbers for you. So the campaigns Public Disclosure in july showed 19 million raised by biden, about 5. 4 from donors who have already given the legal maximum. So they cant get any more in 2024. In the two days after his mug shot was taken, trump pulled in 7 million. Discuss those numbers for us and why you think the push is happening now . Well, i think at this point in time, the money doesnt matter as much to what the dynamics of the race is, as what happens in the spring and the summer of next year. And so i think what each of them is going to do, though donald trump to a lesser extent, is going to raise and spend whatever they have now. To try to step the dynamic as best they can in the course of this. And then after january, into the spring and early summer, is when youll see the huge amounts that we saw spent in 2020, the huge amounts that are spent between june and november, in the course of this race. So, as long as you can strully support your campaign which is what it looks like the Biden Campaign can do, whether its organizational people, fundraising people, i think theyre on track. I think the worry for the Trump Campaign is, though he gets a ton of free media and a solid base of support, his ability to fund the structural part of the campaign seems dicey at this point. Because of the all of the money hes spending on legal bills . Because of all of the money hes spending on legal bills and the idea hes never been a strategic as regards a political campaign. I think he thinks he can run a campaign on fumes, just on the force of his personality and what he can do in getting free media in the course of this. But i think his legal woes put a serious crimp on his ability to support a structure of this campaign. When you look at the polls, again, National Polls this early in the campaign, i know the argument is how they dont mean much, but part of the reason, clearly, for fundraising, they want to start getting their messaging out there. And hes getting biden an early start on Campaign Raising on key states. And its focused on key constituents. I want to play a bit of one ad that features a young mom who is a cement mason in wisconsin. I think people like me, all of the things that biden got passed help the middle class. The people that i do live on a daybyday basis theyre getting a pay raise. What President Biden has accomplished is actually helping real people. Hes doing that now, by comparison, barack obama waited in march 2020 for the sustained money on ads, trump waited, too. What do you make of the early start . Yeah, when i was doing the bush campaign, we waited in june. Wow. Because we wanted to spend from june to november a sustained effort that would have an impact. My guess is they dont think this 25 million in a country of 330 million americans where it costs hundreds and hundreds of millions of dollars to get a message through, the 25 million isnt about changing that dynamic. Its actually about quelling the nervousness of the Democratic Base and people that will raise money for him, so he can have the effort in place, whether its the grassroots he needs or the people raising the money next year. The 25 million to me is much more supporting what the Campaign Needs than change the perceptions of joe biden at this point. So, you think these two things are kind of intertwined, the raising of the money, the targeting of the bundlers to get some of the smaller donors with the ads, they all Work Together . Yeah, i think they all Work Together. They integrity together. Youre not going to see in next year the billions of dollars likely sold on Television Ads. The key thing, chris wait, wait, im not ready for that, the billion dollars my guess is theres going to be A Billion Dollars spent on Television Ads in the president ial race next year. And the other thing they may end up doing, and again, we did this in 2024, you spend a little bit of advertising to see if it actually moves people. You go in and you poll, then you do advertising and poll afterwards to see if it moved people in the course of this. My guess is theyre trying to think what will move them. I have a suspicion whats going to happen, as though they want to run on joe bidens positive agenda and what hes done, those numbers are going to be very difficult to move. And what theyre probably going to end up finding out that the only way this race really moves is you make it a real choice election. And i think your leadin on this, that its a state of democracy in the country, i think that is ultimately what theyre going to figure out, theyre going to need to spent 90 of their resources on is the choice, and not on the positive accomplishments of joe biden. There are a lost of people in Battleground States that hope youre wrong about that billion dollars not the general managers of tv stations. Very true. Matthew dowd, good to see you. From ground zero to alaska, for millions of americans 9 11 is more than a vivid memory. Its a time to come together. Which is why at memorials, firehouses, city halls and college campuses, bells tolled, flags raised and moments of quiet spoke volumes. President biden is on his way to alaska as he makes hi way home from vietnam and india. He will speak on an anchorage Military Base and while biden speak the at all three Military Bases at new york, shanksville from the 20year anniversary, his absence will be a criticism. It will be the first time that a sitting president will not attribute the tragedy at one of the attack sites. And the republicans paying their respects on the campaign trail, including republican Governor Ron Desantis spotted in manhattan at the Memorial Ceremony at ground zero. I want to turn to nbc news vaughn hillyard, not far from world trade center. This could make history, not politicize a tragedy, so what are the candidates plans . Reporter right, chris, Governor Ron Desantis was just down the road here where were standing here at The Memorial Where Vice President Kamala Harris was commemorating the ceremony, alongside kathy hochul and New York City mayor adams. When youre talking about donald trump, its not quite clear where he is today. We reached out to his campaign multiple times for information for his plans here on September 11th. We do know he put out a social media post, about a threeminute video in which he said the lives of those lost, their Family Members, will never be forgotten. I think its important to note politically, were now 22 years since the september 11, 2001 attacks, those speaks to it, for Governor Ron Desantis, he in 2001 was in college at the time. In 2004, hed go on to join the navy in which he served as a lawyer, not only serving time in Guantanamo Bay but iraq. Will hurd, serving in the antiterrorism unit. And then critical of the Biden Administrations to withdraw. And nikki haley, and her husband went on to a yearlong tour in afghanistan. Hes currently stationed in africa. And vivek ramaswamy, chris, was in high school in cincinnati. Hell be visiting the memorial despite giving fodder just last months to Conspiracy Theorists that 9 11 was an inside job. Vivek ramaswamy said he doesnt know enough to say it wasnt one. And with the diplomatic relations and Defense Posture so far eoverseas, he wrote we see this in favor of appeasement and isolationism, back on the leadership world and create a vacuum that china, russia and other hostile nations would be more than happy to fill in. As you said it, chris, joe biden on his way to alaska to address Service Members and First Responders and their families, of course he was in his 28th year in the u. S. Senate, serving as the chair of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee at the time of the 2001 attack. Chris. Vaughn hillyard, thank you for that. 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Reporter well, chris, i asked one republican lawmaker over recess if i had any reason to be nervous for themselves to come back into town because of the funding battle, they told me simply, yes. And that it wasnt going to be pretty. I think thats the move here as lawmakers continue to come back into town because conservative House Members have made clear theyre not backing down on their threats to shut down the government, especially as they want to see more Spending Cuts and as they continue to have that threat in the back pocket of the motion to vacate of speaker Kevin Mccarthy. Some of them told me they feel they were sold out because of that bipartisan deal that House Speaker Kevin Mccarthy did several weeks ago before recess. And leading to conversations like this, heres congressman chip roy, on the State Of Play right now, between him and his leadership. Were all working hard to try to move everything forward here in september. We have a job to do, and that is, to hold this administration accountable. When kevin works with us to sit down to achieve conservative end its and get 218 republican votes, weve been successful. Thats my advice. Reporter so roy is there giving the speaker some advice. That advice may seem to be a veiled threat to those of us who know mccarthy well. This is another threat by mccarthy, dealing with the razorthin margins, the wide views of spending and his conference, and the facts that many of the Freedom Caucus members were agitating for a shutdown in the first place are trying to downplay the idea that a shutdown is not a big deal. While you and i know that shutdowns are that are impacted by them. No kidding, jake, and a new report in punch bowl news from members of mccarthys leadership team, a Government Shutdown is quite possible even likely, tell us a little bit more about your reporting there. Yeah, i mean, the basic reality is the senate has passed a number of bills on a bipartisan basis, republicans and democrats, every Appropriations Bill has come out of committee. Republicans have gotten zero to the house floor. And the senates going to move three bills today. Republicans are going to put the defense Appropriations Bill, the defense spending bill, 886 billion on the floor this week, and theres no guarantee they could even pass that. So its very difficult to see the end game. The end game, the typical sane end game would be a shortterm bill that would go until november. Thats what mccarthy wants and thats a typical punt that we usually see here. I dont know that conservatives are going to allow that, and just to be clear, when chip roy says kevin listens to conservatives, it usually works out. Thats not true. It doesnt work out. The president is a democrat. The senate is run by democrats alongside republicans who disagree with House Republicans. So it might work if youre just trying to get bills through one chamber. What conservatives have for years believed they could get the other side to fold by just standing tough, we have now 13 years, nearing 14 years of experience that thats not the case. Thats fantasy. That posture will, of course, lead to a Government Shutdown, especially given the fact that, number one, they do want to make mccarthy squirm, and number two, substantively on policy, theyre miles from the rest of the consensus in d. C. , which is is that the republicans, senate democrats, and joe biden are roughly on the same page where republicans are reading a completely different book. In our last minute, do they genuinely believe, jake, that this is not potentially a big deal if the government shuts down . Yeah, i think thats generally right. I mean, i think politically they dont believe its a big deal. Of course substantively it is a big deal, you know, operations interrupted around the country. 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Kennedy was assassinated were hearing a stunning new account from a secret Service Agent who was with the president that day, one that could challenge the long held theory that a lone gunman was to blame. Nbcs liz kroits reports. 60 years after president john k. Kennedy was assassinated in dallas in 1975. John f. Kennedy died at 1 00 Central Standard time. Former secret Service Agent paul landis who was with the president that day is opening up for the first time about what he witnessed. For decades, the prevailing theory was that one bullet struck jfk and hit Texas Governor john conley who was sitting in front of him, known adds the magic bullet theory, which explained how one shooter could have fired all the shots. The theory is based on this bullet being found on governors gurney in the hospital. Landis says he knows how it got there. The 88yearold tells the New York Times he found that bullet lodged in the car accident behind where kennedy was killed. He took that bullet to the hospital and placed it on the president s gurney. It was a piece of evidence, he tells the times, and i didnt want it to disappear or get lost. It was paul, youve got to make a decision. Landis says the bullet may have rolled from kennedys gurney to conleys meaning it may not have been the bullet that hit conley. I think this is a significant piece of evidence to support the idea that there was more than one gunman. Clint hill who climbed on the back of the limo when kennedy was shot questions landiss story. Why do you have doubts about his account . Because if you check all the evidence, the statements, things that happened, they dont line up. It doesnt make any sense to me that hes trying to put it on the president s gurney. Weve got a lot to cover in our second hour of Chris Jansing reports. Lets get right to it. 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